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hi i download froyo 2.2 to my htc touch pro2 for t-mobile and i was wondering if i will get charged if i don't change my unlimited windows data plan to an unlimited android data plan while using the internet and the android market
d_freshley said:
hi i download froyo 2.2 to my htc touch pro2 for t-mobile and i was wondering if i will get charged if i don't change my unlimited windows data plan to an unlimited android data plan while using the internet and the android market
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Just use it... if it works, great. I know Cricket users had issues because Cricket would block access to the market, but I don't know of any other carrier that does this.
thanks
but my phone doesn't block my internet im just worried that t-mobile will charge because im using android internet on a windows data plan
d_freshley said:
but my phone doesn't block my internet im just worried that t-mobile will charge because im using android internet on a windows data plan
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I'm on Sprint and they haven't said a thing if it makes you feel any better... I can't make any guarantees that your provider won't tho.
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when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
d_freshley said:
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
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Switch my data to Windows...? What does that even mean?
hes tryin to say theres no such thing as a windows data plan, android data plan, etc. You have one data plan that covers your acct. whatever you do to your phone is still under the same data plan.
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
noodles21o2 said:
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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you're absolutely right
thanks 4 the tip
im not exactly sure what you mean but it shouldnt matter...android or windows because youre accessing the internet through your carriers network...should be the same either way
He sounds like a U.S. Cellular guy, like myself, so let me elaborate:
USCC is charging $25/mo for data plans if you have a BB or WinMo, but that goes up to $30/mo if you have an Android (they claim Android users will eat more network load, though we here at XDA all know that's a pretty vague excuse).
But no, they have no idea (or care) that you are using Android on the TP2 and not paying the $30/mo. Go live it up.
i have been using android on my tmo tp2 pretty much since its been available...i have never had any extra charges
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I think it depends on your carrier...
Here's a rule of thumb - if the market works & everything else works as expected, you're probably OK. If the market traffic is blocked, then your carrier probably wants you to pay extra $$$ for an Android data plan.
@noodles21o2 and Chizzwizz... no reason to be rude, its a valid question for some carriers... To your posts I say if you have nothing worth while to say, don't post on this site, I cannot stand those bs elitist answers.
@ OP.... if it makes you feel any better, I was using a blackberry as a temp phone until I got my tp 2 replaced, I switched it to a blackberry internet plan but I never switched it back and my internet works just fine in windows mobile and android. I dont think that anyone really knows (or cares) If they really wanted to I am sure they can poll your device... but will they in the vast sea of users using the cell broadband network? Likely not. I wouldn't worry about it.
chizzwhizz said:
hes tryin to say theres no such thing as a windows data plan, android data plan, etc. You have one data plan that covers your acct. whatever you do to your phone is still under the same data plan.
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there is no rudeness in my comment...i was really tryin to be helpful...didnt kno us cellular was weird
chizzwhizz said:
us cellular was weird
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USCC is weird about a lot of things, lol
noodles21o2 said:
and he was being nice about it, frankly i would have just said that if you don't understand that much than you shouldn't be on this website
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People like you need to remember we are not all the same and we don't all know the same.
If you don't want top help a noob out then shut what they call the hell up and remember we were all there at one time.
d_freshley said:
when u got your touch pro 2 did you have to switch your data to windows
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If it makes you feel any better I am on a Sprint plan where they specifically said that android is not allowed and I still use my touchpro2 all the time with android.
my apologies to the OP, i got my data plan 4 years ago and still on my parents plan so i dont see the bill. i was unaware that things have changed since then
I plan on giving this phone to my dad and was wondering if att will detect it. I am running cm9 and will be blocking all data before giving it to him.
raytraceme said:
I plan on giving this phone to my dad and was wondering if att will detect it. I am running cm9 and will be blocking all data before giving it to him.
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Yes, they will detect it. If your dad is on a very old plan (maybe 3+ years since renewing the contract), he might be grandfathered in (meaning that he wouldn't be required to get a data plan for a smartphone, and they won't automatically assign one to him). This doesn't apply to most people though.
lol nope i have used his upgrades for myself. So i guess he is not grandfathered.
Might I ask what phone you are switching to?
either the one x or the galaxy s3. The nitro gets too hot, still has color banding issues, and the battery life is humbug.
raytraceme said:
either the one x or the galaxy s3. The nitro gets too hot, still has color banding issues, and the battery life is humbug.
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All those things will be addressed once a stable version of CM9 is out with an undervolting kernel, but suit yourself. ;p
why would you want to give your dad a phone that overheats, has graphics issues and ****ty battery life?
He bought himself a HTC vivid, so I don't have to worry about giving him one that sucks...
Because in just about every metric, the HTC vivid is worse (comming as a person who does not like non fridge related LG products, here).
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Edit, however, as long as no data used, normally, att will not bother you.
scott0 said:
why would you want to give your dad a phone that overheats, has graphics issues and ****ty battery life?
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^ so are you saying that I should warranty it?
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Edit, however, as long as no data used, normally, att will not bother you.
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Not true, if they detect a smartphone on the network at all, they will attempt to put you on a data plan. Sometimes it's not immediate but it WILL happen.
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Not true, if they detect a smartphone on the network at all, they will attempt to put you on a data plan. Sometimes it's not immediate but it WILL happen.
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Ah Thank you. I guess I got lucky with my TW GSII (or does AT&T only have IMEI of its own branded phones?).
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^ so are you saying that I should warranty it?
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well, i was attempting to make it funny.......................but yeah, i'd replace it 1st.
jeremyshaw said:
Ah Thank you. I guess I got lucky with my TW GSII (or does AT&T only have IMEI of its own branded phones?).
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Yeah, that might be the reason -- I don't have any idea which devices are in their list but it's very possible that T-Mobile phones will bypass the detection. The other possible reason is the one I mentioned earlier in this thread: if you are on a very old plan that didn't have the data requirement listed in the contract.
raytraceme said:
I plan on giving this phone to my dad
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Do you really hate your dad that much?
My mom had exact same situation when I gave her a HTC Inspire 4G, she went to another carrier simply because ATT would not allow her use a smart phone without data plan. Well, they tried to rip her off with $30 a month and at the end they simply lost a customer who payed $45 a month.
Good job ATT.
Someone is giving my wife an LG Nitro HD after she lost her Samsung Captivate. We currently have the $15/mo 200MB data plan, but when I was shopping for upgrades and looking at newer phones online it seemed like we had to switch to a newer, more expensive 4G data plan. If we get a new sim card from AT&T for my wife will it work in this phone? Will we be able to use it without changing her data plan?
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Someone is giving my wife an LG Nitro HD after she lost her Samsung Captivate. We currently have the $15/mo 200MB data plan, but when I was shopping for upgrades and looking at newer phones online it seemed like we had to switch to a newer, more expensive 4G data plan. If we get a new sim card from AT&T for my wife will it work in this phone? Will we be able to use it without changing her data plan?
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I'd suggest calling up AT&T support or going into a local AT&T store to see if they can move your wife from the 200MB 3G data plan to the 200MB LTE data plan (same price - $15/mo). I think they will do it without any problem, but I'm not sure. It's worth a try at least.
I have taken a sim card out of a regular phone and put it into a smart phone and att never added a data plan to it. I had that for maybe a year. If you don't want to pay for data anymore take out your sim card and put it into an old phone and tell att that you sold the smartphone and are using the older phone now, then switch the sim card back without telling att, I've done that too. I can't say they won't force a data plan but this is just what i experienced
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airicd22 said:
I have taken a sim card out of a regular phone and put it into a smart phone and att never added a data plan to it. I had that for maybe a year. If you don't want to pay for data anymore take out your sim card and put it into an old phone and tell att that you sold the smartphone and are using the older phone now, then switch the sim card back without telling att, I've done that too. I can't say they won't force a data plan but this is just what i experienced
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It depends on how recently you've signed a contract with AT&T. If you've signed a contract since they implemented the requirement for data plans on all smartphones, then they will automatically switch you to a data plan if you use a smartphone. If you haven't, they won't.
This was with an iPhone 4 when it first came out. I sold it and then but an old razor and they took the data plan off per my request. And did the same thing with my wife's phone but she got an older smart phone but they never turned a data LAN on for it automatically.
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I've had this phone for awhile now, I want to say since April and it's been fine for the most part besides 3 other bugs I've been meaning to post about on here, but I've gotten rock solid internet with an unlocked phone from Amazon on T-mobile with the stock Android, including through all updates to 4.4's most recent. It flies on LTE and HSPA+.
Out of nowhere yesterday my data slowed to a crawl. I Speed Test it and I'm getting literally 0.04MBS down and around the same up.
I'm not being throttled. Although stupidly through procrastination I'm still on a month to month from an old contract where I get unlimited but get throttled after 5gig's use, I'm literally only 2 days and maybe 100mb into my cycle and even when I'm throttled they keep me between 1 and 2 megs down.
I'm really unsure what has happened and would really appreciate if anyone could lend a helping hand here with suggestions or the outright known issue and fix.
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Cliff
Cliff Clavin said:
I'm really unsure what has happened and would really appreciate if anyone could lend a helping hand here with suggestions or the outright known issue and fix.
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And what have T-Mobile said?
XperienceD said:
And what have T-Mobile said?
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I've been pretty busy yesterday and today so I haven't even had a chance to call them yet, going to call tomorrow.
Maybe it's something as simple as a bad SIM Card?
Maybe I have to enter something into the settings under network?
Cliff Clavin said:
Maybe it's something as simple as a bad SIM Card?
Maybe I have to enter something into the settings under network?
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Or a problem with the network which is why it's best to Phone them first.
I'm starting to get really disappointed with my brand new Note 4. for several reasons.
Now I've discovered that it does not support voice and data at same time. That is a HUGE HUGE HUGE problem for me - especially if I'm using it as a notspot and miss phone calls. Are there any ROMS that deal with this issue? If not then I need to give up and return the phone before my 14 days is up.
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I'm starting to get really disappointed with my brand new Note 4. for several reasons.
Now I've discovered that it does not support voice and data at same time. That is a HUGE HUGE HUGE problem for me - especially if I'm using it as a notspot and miss phone calls. Are there any ROMS that deal with this issue? If not then I need to give up and return the phone before my 14 days is up.
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Wrong place to ask and no
TechnoHippie said:
I'm starting to get really disappointed with my brand new Note 4. for several reasons.
Now I've discovered that it does not support voice and data at same time. That is a HUGE HUGE HUGE problem for me - especially if I'm using it as a notspot and miss phone calls. Are there any ROMS that deal with this issue? If not then I need to give up and return the phone before my 14 days is up.
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If you are using hotspot you shouldn't miss phone calls. IT will automatically still ring but stop your data. :\
No, no rom can help with this.
You can get an unlocked note 4 that doesn't utilize sprint spark or integrate ur sprint number with Google voice and use calling and texting over data with hangouts. Other than that ur out of luck.
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You're posting in the wrong sub forum.
Take the time to read into things you're looking for.
To answer the ignorant question, no it's hardware limitation.
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No Sprint Spark device will allow calls and data at the same time.
TechnicianOnline said:
You're posting in the wrong sub forum.
Take the time to read into things you're looking for.
To answer the ignorant question, no it's hardware limitation.
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I don't think the question was all that ignorant - its not a hardware limitation of the phone - it's the spark network that it's on. Other Sprint phones have this ability - and if you had a way to get your Note 4 OFF the spark network and onto their other one, this problem would not exist. I was wondering if there was a ROM that dealt with this - but I guess not.
If you try using hang outs for calls do I deleted phone.apk?
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I don't think the question was all that ignorant - its not a hardware limitation of the phone - it's the spark network that it's on. Other Sprint phones have this ability - and if you had a way to get your Note 4 OFF the spark network and onto their other one, this problem would not exist. I was wondering if there was a ROM that dealt with this - but I guess not.
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Actually its a spark hardware issue. He's right. Be careful the way you word things. The way you are saying it, makes it seem as though you could just turn off spark and solve the problem. Whereas thats not the issue. Itsba combination if the hardware required for spark and the was spark is setup in our devices.
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qubanaso said:
If you try using hang outs for calls do I deleted phone.apk?
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Nope just make a call from hangouts or google voice. Leave the phone apk intact.
There are older phones - such as the Galaxy S4 - that you still get 4G data and can talk at the same time - because these phones are not on the Spark network. It would seem logical that one could configure your Note 4 to use the network that these older S4's are using - changing the APNS, making changes to your CSC...etc etc etc. It's not a hardware limitation of the phone - it's a hardware limitation of the spark network - so all you need to do is config the phone to use the other network. Problem of course is that Sprint sure as hell does not want you to figure this out and thus won't do anything to assist you in doing so.
But - at this point - I really don't care. This has me so pissed that I'm giving up and going to try T-mobile. What kind of loooser move is this by Sprint? Have top-tier smart phone that you can't multitask talk/surf at same time? Horrible, horrible move by sprint.
Yes I understand I could use hangouts to kinda get around this - but it's just worth it - furthermore this problem will still exist when trying to use the phone as a hotspot - and you can't use hangouts to make phone calls while using the phone as a hotspot - so again it's a hole they've dug us into that there simply is no way out of - other than dumping Sprint for ANY OTHER carrier that has the Note 4 - cause none of the other carriers have this issue.
Such a shame.
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There are older phones - such as the Galaxy S4 - that you still get 4G data and can talk at the same time - because these phones are not on the Spark network. It would seem logical that one could configure your Note 4 to use the network that these older S4's are using - changing the APNS, making changes to your CSC...etc etc etc. It's not a hardware limitation of the phone - it's a hardware limitation of the spark network - so all you need to do is config the phone to use the other network. Problem of course is that Sprint sure as hell does not want you to figure this out and thus won't do anything to assist you in doing so.
But - at this point - I really don't care. This has me so pissed that I'm giving up and going to try T-mobile. What kind of loooser move is this by Sprint? Have top-tier smart phone that you can't multitask talk/surf at same time? Horrible, horrible move by sprint.
Yes I understand I could use hangouts to kinda get around this - but it's just worth it - furthermore this problem will still exist when trying to use the phone as a hotspot - and you can't use hangouts to make phone calls while using the phone as a hotspot - so again it's a hole they've dug us into that there simply is no way out of - other than dumping Sprint for ANY OTHER carrier that has the Note 4 - cause none of the other carriers have this issue.
Such a shame.
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Except for the fact that no other carriers has unlimited data and Sprint knows this. So if you want unlimited data you have to pay by Sprints rules. Or go to other carrier, pay twice what you pay now, get 5GB per month and hit for ten bucks for ever gig you go over or get throttled so bad you might as well be using radio service.
tmobile now offers unlimited 4g no cap. in my case the total monthly bill is within 20cents of sprint. and surf and talk same time. choice seems obvious to me.
Simultaneous voice and data is a focus for Sprint and is part of network vision but isnt the top priority. Top is increasing speeds and stability in the network. Eventually it will be a capability.
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tmobile now offers unlimited 4g no cap. in my case the total monthly bill is within 20cents of sprint. and surf and talk same time. choice seems obvious to me.
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Well go to tmobile all ill say .
bckoolaid said:
Simultaneous voice and data is a focus for Sprint and is part of network vision but isnt the top priority. Top is increasing speeds and stability in the network. Eventually it will be a capability.
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I have a Version Note 4 and a Sprint Note 4 in my hands. Verizon has 2 bars - Sprint has 4 bars. Verizon download speed - around 11mb average. Sprint download speeds - average less than 1mb. So 1/2 the signal yet 10 times the speed on verizon. Tomorrow I will have a Tmobile one and will see how it does - but if Sprint is trying to deal with speed they're sure doing a crappy job of it. I used signal check pro to validate the signals.
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Well go to tmobile all ill say .
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Yep - I have it ordered should be here in 24 hours or so. Of course the next thing is all this has taken so long that now I'm past the 14day no-return policy with sprint - so I expect a battle when I try to return the phone 2 days after the 14th day. If anyone has any suggestions on how to deal with that let me know.
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Yep - I have it ordered should be here in 24 hours or so. Of course the next thing is all this has taken so long that now I'm past the 14day no-return policy with sprint - so I expect a battle when I try to return the phone 2 days after the 14th day. If anyone has any suggestions on how to deal with that let me know.
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Own up and take responsibility for keeping the device longer than the 14day. There is plenty of info here, to search through and make an informed decision.
Lol @ Spark isn't a hardware issue, thats only a half truth. Until we get VoLTE
I'm seriously considering this since the AT&T model will supposedly never get root and it's bootloader will always be locked. Anybody else following suit?
whmgreen said:
I'm seriously considering this since the AT&T model will supposedly never get root and it's bootloader will always be locked. Anybody else following suit?
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I personally don't have a need to root anymore. I prefer to just have a stable phone and not worry about screwing something up and constant backup and restores.
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Sent the AT&T Note 5 back to AT&T and got the t-mobile variant unlocked instead ... Happy as can be
Sher The Love said:
I personally don't have a need to root anymore. I prefer to just have a stable phone and not worry about screwing something up and constant backup and restores.
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same here, been rooting/flashing rom since the first galaxy s who really needs some rom optimization, unlike today, smartphone hardwares improved, no need for overlocking and etc. I'd say i graduated rooting/modifying system files already.
I would but TMOBILE has an actual unlock app now which makes things very difficult. I tried doing this for the s6 edge and it actually doesn't work so well on att. (check TMOBILE s6edge forums thread "calling issues")
I had TMOBILE note 4 on att and that was great but again this new app ruins it
Note 4 was the first phone I didn't need to root and the note 5 is the second. It got too tedious. I've still got a rooted 3 though
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I had a TMO S6 Edge and had calling issues on AT&T. It didn't happen all the time but at least daily and really frustrating.
I use this phone for work so no choice but to go with AT&T on Note 5. I can't afford to miss calls and wait 30 seconds for dialing out issues.
Development was really slow too due non Qualcomm processor. Debloating was the real benefit and much of that can be done through Package Disabler Pro app from Play Store.
I had the same issues as the above thread. You have been warned! If you want unlocked you should buy the international version! Not the TMOBILE one...
Thanks for the heads up!
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I'm seriously considering this since the AT&T model will supposedly never get root and it's bootloader will always be locked. Anybody else following suit?
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I used the T-mobile variant of several previous Galaxy phones on AT&T's network. All of them worked, but not all perfectly. Some were definitely better than others. I myself would be cautious with this because as AT&T continues to expand and update their network, the potential for degrading performance with the T-mobile variant may increase. I personally switch phones every 3 to 6 months so future proofing may impact others more than me.
The T-mobile version is still missing a couple of bands used by AT&T. While this may not impact you where you initially test the phone, it may once you switch locations.
Initially, everyone (including myself) played down the absence of these bands from the T-mobile variant stating that they were only reserved for future expansion. Maybe the future is now because I can tell you that I will not longer use it. The AT&T variant just works better for me. I get more consistent connectivity and consistently higher speeds. Sometimes not by much, but consistently higher nonetheless.
I love having root and a custom recovery just for the nice backups. Also deleting bloatware and editing system sounds. Little things like that. I do enjoy my AT&T Note 5 though. Still an amazing phone and really fast. I couldn't imaging what an AOSP rom would be like with 4gb of ram. Lol.
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I love having root and a custom recovery just for the nice backups. Also deleting bloatware and editing system sounds. Little things like that. I do enjoy my AT&T Note 6 though. Still an amazing phone and really fast. I couldn't imaging what an AOSP rom would be like with 4gb of ram. Lol.
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You are the MAN! How did you get AT&T's version of the Note 6 so soon?
Lol. Oops my bad!
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I had the same issues as the above thread. You have been warned! If you want unlocked you should buy the international version! Not the TMOBILE one...
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And then instead of call issues you'll have LTE issues!
I personally must have root for any att device due to me wanting to do WiFi hotspot on grandfathered unlimited data plan. When the phones arent rom'ed or tether hacked, I can no way start up the WiFi hotspot.
And I'll never give up the unlimited as long as I can
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AxlxA said:
I personally must have root for any att device due to me wanting to do WiFi hotspot on grandfathered unlimited data plan. When the phones arent rom'ed or tether hacked, I can no way start up the WiFi hotspot.
And I'll never give up the unlimited as long as I can
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I felt the same way until the throttling started. It was so bad when throttled that my powerful smartphone was practically crippled unless I hopped on WiFi.
I gave in and got a Family Share plan when they were running a good special. I haven't looked back because my bill dropped substantially and I have more data than I can actually use thanks to roll over.
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I felt the same way until the throttling started. It was so bad when throttled that my powerful smartphone was practically crippled unless I hopped on WiFi.
I gave in and got a Family Share plan when they were running a good special. I haven't looked back because my bill dropped substantially and I have more data than I can actually use thanks to roll over.
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Yes I experienced that same throttling two years ago when their cap was 5gb.
Now their rule is saying if you use too much they'll lower your speed until your cell towers hubs are uncongested. So around crazy busy cities it can be slowed down during peak hours. But I've gone over the 5gb soft limit a few times and has experienced no slow down...
I have considered looking into family shares but seems like everyone in the family together will use more gb than the affordable plans can allot
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Yes I experienced that same throttling two years ago when their cap was 5gb.
Now their rule is saying if you use too much they'll lower your speed until your cell towers hubs are uncongested. So around crazy busy cities it can be slowed down during peak hours. But I've gone over the 5gb soft limit a few times and has experienced no slow down...
I have considered looking into family shares but seems like everyone in the family together will use more gb than the affordable plans can allot
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If it's working for you, you should definitely keep it!
THEONEMARK said:
Sent the AT&T Note 5 back to AT&T and got the t-mobile variant unlocked instead ... Happy as can be
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hey man, how and where did u get it unlocked at? i just bought a tmobile version and need it unlocked.
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hey man, how and where did u get it unlocked at? i just bought a tmobile version and need it unlocked.
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I called Tmobile and told them to unlock it because it was fully payed for and they sent me the unlock code
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I called Tmobile and told them to unlock it because it was fully payed for and they sent me the unlock code
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Oh yah we now have root on tmobile Note 5 so.. best of both worlds