I'm seriously considering this since the AT&T model will supposedly never get root and it's bootloader will always be locked. Anybody else following suit?
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I'm seriously considering this since the AT&T model will supposedly never get root and it's bootloader will always be locked. Anybody else following suit?
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I personally don't have a need to root anymore. I prefer to just have a stable phone and not worry about screwing something up and constant backup and restores.
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Sent the AT&T Note 5 back to AT&T and got the t-mobile variant unlocked instead ... Happy as can be
Sher The Love said:
I personally don't have a need to root anymore. I prefer to just have a stable phone and not worry about screwing something up and constant backup and restores.
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same here, been rooting/flashing rom since the first galaxy s who really needs some rom optimization, unlike today, smartphone hardwares improved, no need for overlocking and etc. I'd say i graduated rooting/modifying system files already.
I would but TMOBILE has an actual unlock app now which makes things very difficult. I tried doing this for the s6 edge and it actually doesn't work so well on att. (check TMOBILE s6edge forums thread "calling issues")
I had TMOBILE note 4 on att and that was great but again this new app ruins it
Note 4 was the first phone I didn't need to root and the note 5 is the second. It got too tedious. I've still got a rooted 3 though
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I had a TMO S6 Edge and had calling issues on AT&T. It didn't happen all the time but at least daily and really frustrating.
I use this phone for work so no choice but to go with AT&T on Note 5. I can't afford to miss calls and wait 30 seconds for dialing out issues.
Development was really slow too due non Qualcomm processor. Debloating was the real benefit and much of that can be done through Package Disabler Pro app from Play Store.
I had the same issues as the above thread. You have been warned! If you want unlocked you should buy the international version! Not the TMOBILE one...
Thanks for the heads up!
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I'm seriously considering this since the AT&T model will supposedly never get root and it's bootloader will always be locked. Anybody else following suit?
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I used the T-mobile variant of several previous Galaxy phones on AT&T's network. All of them worked, but not all perfectly. Some were definitely better than others. I myself would be cautious with this because as AT&T continues to expand and update their network, the potential for degrading performance with the T-mobile variant may increase. I personally switch phones every 3 to 6 months so future proofing may impact others more than me.
The T-mobile version is still missing a couple of bands used by AT&T. While this may not impact you where you initially test the phone, it may once you switch locations.
Initially, everyone (including myself) played down the absence of these bands from the T-mobile variant stating that they were only reserved for future expansion. Maybe the future is now because I can tell you that I will not longer use it. The AT&T variant just works better for me. I get more consistent connectivity and consistently higher speeds. Sometimes not by much, but consistently higher nonetheless.
I love having root and a custom recovery just for the nice backups. Also deleting bloatware and editing system sounds. Little things like that. I do enjoy my AT&T Note 5 though. Still an amazing phone and really fast. I couldn't imaging what an AOSP rom would be like with 4gb of ram. Lol.
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I love having root and a custom recovery just for the nice backups. Also deleting bloatware and editing system sounds. Little things like that. I do enjoy my AT&T Note 6 though. Still an amazing phone and really fast. I couldn't imaging what an AOSP rom would be like with 4gb of ram. Lol.
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You are the MAN! How did you get AT&T's version of the Note 6 so soon?
Lol. Oops my bad!
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I had the same issues as the above thread. You have been warned! If you want unlocked you should buy the international version! Not the TMOBILE one...
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And then instead of call issues you'll have LTE issues!
I personally must have root for any att device due to me wanting to do WiFi hotspot on grandfathered unlimited data plan. When the phones arent rom'ed or tether hacked, I can no way start up the WiFi hotspot.
And I'll never give up the unlimited as long as I can
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I personally must have root for any att device due to me wanting to do WiFi hotspot on grandfathered unlimited data plan. When the phones arent rom'ed or tether hacked, I can no way start up the WiFi hotspot.
And I'll never give up the unlimited as long as I can
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I felt the same way until the throttling started. It was so bad when throttled that my powerful smartphone was practically crippled unless I hopped on WiFi.
I gave in and got a Family Share plan when they were running a good special. I haven't looked back because my bill dropped substantially and I have more data than I can actually use thanks to roll over.
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I felt the same way until the throttling started. It was so bad when throttled that my powerful smartphone was practically crippled unless I hopped on WiFi.
I gave in and got a Family Share plan when they were running a good special. I haven't looked back because my bill dropped substantially and I have more data than I can actually use thanks to roll over.
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Yes I experienced that same throttling two years ago when their cap was 5gb.
Now their rule is saying if you use too much they'll lower your speed until your cell towers hubs are uncongested. So around crazy busy cities it can be slowed down during peak hours. But I've gone over the 5gb soft limit a few times and has experienced no slow down...
I have considered looking into family shares but seems like everyone in the family together will use more gb than the affordable plans can allot
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Yes I experienced that same throttling two years ago when their cap was 5gb.
Now their rule is saying if you use too much they'll lower your speed until your cell towers hubs are uncongested. So around crazy busy cities it can be slowed down during peak hours. But I've gone over the 5gb soft limit a few times and has experienced no slow down...
I have considered looking into family shares but seems like everyone in the family together will use more gb than the affordable plans can allot
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If it's working for you, you should definitely keep it!
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Sent the AT&T Note 5 back to AT&T and got the t-mobile variant unlocked instead ... Happy as can be
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hey man, how and where did u get it unlocked at? i just bought a tmobile version and need it unlocked.
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hey man, how and where did u get it unlocked at? i just bought a tmobile version and need it unlocked.
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I called Tmobile and told them to unlock it because it was fully payed for and they sent me the unlock code
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I called Tmobile and told them to unlock it because it was fully payed for and they sent me the unlock code
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Oh yah we now have root on tmobile Note 5 so.. best of both worlds
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Hi all,
I have been guided to this section regarding my Straight Talk Samsung Galaxy SIII because it's model number indicates it operates through Sprint. It is a SCH-S960L. I have had it for about a week. Came with 4.1.2. Does anyone have any information on how I can root this phone? I have searched everywhere and can't find any solid info about it.
I thank you ahead for any guidance you can give!
Lisa
Rooting for all S3 is pretty much the same. The thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38172219 has almost all the answers to questions you will have. #2 thing mentioned is rooting it will take you to the guide with video just watch the video several times read everything it's rather simple in less than 5 minutes you will have it rooted and custom recovery installed.
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Thanks for the response, Ed. I haven't heard much other info about rooting this, so I appreciate the info. Really don't want to brick it, but I also am anxious to get rooted and set it up the way I want it....
Lisa
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i beleive that youre phone is probably more related to the t-mobile variant since straight talk runs off of tmobile... check the model number under the battery
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i beleive that youre phone is probably more related to the t-mobile variant since straight talk runs off of tmobile... check the model number under the battery
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Actually I think ST runs off Sprint. This was what I was told. I have this model as well. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. There isnt much info around about the SCH-S960L
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you might be right but i remember a commercial saying that you get t mobiles national coverage... but you may be right
ST runs on the Sprint network.
actually, i looked it up and it appears it uses all major carriers... its a part of tracfone which makes it a subsidiary of a subsidiary... but tracfone has contracts with all major carriers
I was able to confirm this phone does run through Sprint, and got it rooted using Skunkape1's excellent rooting directions in the Sprint SG3 forum...
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did you rom it????????
ScrapHappy said:
I was able to confirm this phone does run through Sprint, and got it rooted using Skunkape1's excellent rooting directions in the Sprint SG3 forum...
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Yes the S3 through straight talk runs on sprint.... if you rooted, did you use a rom?
I bought my wife and daughter these phones through straight talk. The box had the red verizon map on it, and the network type is LTE/ cdma. I'm on regular verizon and can get LTE, but they can't.They stay on 3g most of the time. Sucks. But I am curious if you were able to find a rom to run after you rooted it? I'm not really satisfied with straight talk service. Family seems to have a lot more dropped calls than me. Anything that can make these phones more bearable would be nice.
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i beleive that youre phone is probably more related to the t-mobile variant since straight talk runs off of tmobile... check the model number under the battery
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Straight Talk doesn't "run" on T-mobile. Straight Talk is a Tracfone service, which depending on the specific device, runs on a variety of towers through a variety of companies. Verizon and At&t are the most commonly used towers.
Well, I finally gave up and put my family back on Verizon. Weird thing was when vz sales rep was swapping numbers, he put the straight talk phone info into the computer and it said the phone was using sprint and some verizon variant network for data.
Was wondering if anyone has ever found a rom to run on this phone. Friend wants the phone, but rooted.
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Was wondering if anyone has ever found a rom to run on this phone. Friend wants the phone, but rooted.
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I'm running everything (flashaholic) on my S960L. After I bricked I got it back to life and have been happily flashing since.
And yes, it does run off Sprint networks
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Yeah, I'll probably just sell it to him and be done with it. It's a shame straight talk didn't work out for me. Might have better coverage in a city. But where I live, it's crap.
Now on Verizon
The FIRST GS3 offered by Straight Talk WAS on the Sprint network. But after S/T got absolutely blasted by upset customers (and POTENTIAL customers) they finally pulled their heads out of their butts and now they offer a CDMA-V variant...that's VERIZON for those who don't know the codes. There is a code on the lower left corner of the packaging that will say CDMA-S (Sprint), CDMA-V (Verizon) and GSM which will be either T-Mobile or AT&T (not sure of the codes after the GSM as I'm not familiar with those, but the person in electronics would (should) know if you ask).
So now you can have one of the best phones on the market, behind only the S4, on Verizon's network. I got this phone the day after the Black Friday sales, and it still rang up at the sale price of $299. I was prepared to pay the regular price of $399 so you can imagine my surprise and delight when it rang up at the sale price. So what if it only has 3G. I constantly hear people complaining about this fact, so they can either have their 4G LTE on Sprint and get no coverage, or have a contract and pay 3 times what I pay, or have one of the best phones out there with 3G and $45 a month for everything unlimited on the best network with no contract. The choice seems obvious to me. And I'm an ex-Verizon contract customer. Our bill was just too high. I'm happy to pay more for a phone with no contract.
Now, hopefully somebody can answer my question...would it be the same process to root this phone as the one on the Sprint network? Is there any possibility you could screw up your phone with no chance of recovery? I would like to root my phone but I do not want to be in a situation where I'm looking at my phone with a blank screen and no way to recover, or it won't turn on or it changes to Japanese...etc...you get what I'm asking. If there's any risk I'm not going to do it, it just wouldn't seem worth it to me. But if it's something that it works or doesn't and no in between then I would like to try it. Thank you for any advice.
Wow! Great advice
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Rooting for all S3 is pretty much the same. The thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38172219 has almost all the answers to questions you will have. #2 thing mentioned is rooting it will take you to the guide with video just watch the video several times read everything it's rather simple in less than 5 minutes you will have it rooted and custom recovery installed.
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Wow! Top answer here. Too bad it was a complete fail for the straight talk version.
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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I left verizon for the G1 on T-Mobile then left T-Mobile for the HTC Incredible. Since I have my eye on the One and can get it on either I wanted to know which provider (or version of phone actually) would be better,
I'm sure someone will come up with something for the Verizon version, I just wanted to know which would have more support for ROMs and such in the future. With my GNEX, it always seemed the GSM version had more and quicker updates.
I really don't prefer one over the other, but I guess I'm just upset Verizon won't let me keep my Unlimited and T-Mobile offers it still.
wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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I left T-Mobile and I will NEVER go back. They offer the ability to upgrade faster because their service sucks.
vampire5003 said:
The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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Bootloader unlock already works per dev. forum.
I tried T-Mobile and the coverage in my area was terrible and was forced to switch back to Verizon. Just be careful and really check that coverage map!
samstudent said:
I tried T-Mobile and the coverage in my area was terrible and was forced to switch back to Verizon. Just be careful and really check that coverage map!
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I know Verizon is great as far as coverage, but I know T-Mobile isn't bad in my area either.
I just really want to know if there will be developers that care about this version like I'm sure they are with the GSM version.
I am glad to see that it's unlockable (for now). That puts even more of a time crunch as I'm sure Verizon will have an OTA out there to kill that soon....
I did 2 months of t-mobile prepaid just to test our their new LTE network in my area (San Jose Bay Area, CA). I have 2 verizon lines, 1 for work and 1 for person.
Yesterday, I officially terminated my personal Verizon line and moved the number to T-Mobile. While T-Mobile's 3G/4G HSPA reception is shotty, their LTE network in San Jose is extremely solid and robust, especially considering how new it is.
Just my thoughts and opinions.
I just switched from Verizon to T Mobile, I tested it out for a week before I ported my line. T Mobile is just as fast here in Chicago and about $50 lower a month than Verizon. If you travel I would probably stick with Verizon. I just went from Chicago to NJ and had terrible to no signal through OH & PA.
I have used both carriers. In my opinion Verizon has the best coverage, but t mobile has the cheapest plan. When I was with Verizon I paid 130 a month and right know I'm only paying 70 a month for t mobile for unlimited everything.
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Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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dottat said:
Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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All 4g data can run while on a call regardless of carrier. 3g was limited to resound and thunderbolt on verizon
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Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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All 4g data can run while on a call regardless of carrier. 3g was limited to resound and thunderbolt on verizon
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To be honest, I just figured this out last night as I was on hold on a call and answering emails. I remember I wasn't able to do that at one point, and never even noticed the change. The commercials come to mind of other carriers making fun of Verizon not being able to do that so I never even tried. Since at work and at home (if not on wifi) I'm usually only a 3G signal anyway if it worked I wouldn't have noticed. And I live/work in Norfolk VA which is not exactly the middle of nowhere. Maybe my GNEX just sucks...... I dont know. This is a congested area though so maybe that's why?
I went to both last night. The guy that helped me at Verizon was reason enough to quit them and never go back. The entire time I had to talk over his football game on his iPhone. Had it connected to a speaker and had it on full blast. I actually had to repeat myself numerous times... a**hole. He made it quite clear I was a nuisance to him.
I know I'm comparing two different phones and I'm sure any other radio out now will blow away whatever is on my GNEX, but speedtest on Verizon was low teens while T-Mobile was constantly over 20 on the One
I may just make the switch. If I travel I can use wifi if I don't have service. Every McDonalds and Starbucks has it, so I'm not worried (those are EVERYWHERE :laugh. and either way, I believe I'll just buy the phone outright.
I guess I still have the question of GSM vs CDMA. Since Google is pushing the updates for the GSM version, would that be the way to go?
Sorry for the stupid questions, I just don't want to make the decision to realize it was the wrong one. Other's advice is always appreciated.
buy T-Mobile. It runs same roms as universal so development will always be more. And if tmo had service as good as Verizon here, I'd be on it. It's so much cheaper.
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Bootloader unlock already works per dev. forum.
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I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
lhuge said:
I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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If you was one of the lucky few when the HTC one was first launched then you was able to unlock through HTC dev before Verizon issued the stop. Now if you want an unlocked bootloader you need to find a person like sonic with a java card to unlock your phone for a fee.
Now some has said there are devs who possibly found an exploit but are waiting until Verizon updates the phone to 4.3 so they can't patch the exploit right off the bat.
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If you was one of the lucky few when the HTC one was first launched then you was able to unlock through HTC dev before Verizon issued the stop. Now if you want an unlocked bootloader you need to find a person like sonic with a java card to unlock your phone for a fee.
Now some has said there are devs who possibly found an exploit but are waiting until Verizon updates the phone to 4.3 so they can't patch the exploit right off the bat.
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And does anyone have a decent guess at when 4.3 will be released for HTC One?
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I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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I wrote that over a month ago on day one of the release.
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And does anyone have a decent guess at when 4.3 will be released for HTC One?
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Well, this is Verizon, so I'm guessing September of next year.
wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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If your service is the same, then t-mobile is clearly the better choice. However if you plan on moving around at all, I'd be very wary of t-mobile. I too left verizon for t-mobile once and went back because Verizon had superior coverage. T-mobile was great in most areas, except where they weren't. Verizon was always good, everywhere coverage wise
I want to use this on AT&T but heard it was not possible cause this new t-mobile unlocking app which will prevent this from happening unless you actually have t-mobile service for 40 days.
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I want to use this on AT&T but heard it was not possible cause this new t-mobile unlocking app which will prevent this from happening unless you actually have t-mobile service for 40 days.
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That's correct, only other option right now is to have someone who has tmobile (for more than 40 days) who purchased the phone and unlock it themselves under their account, then they can sell you the device.
false my sister has tmobile got s6 edge didn't like it compared to her iphone 6 plus so gave it to me as a early bday gift im on att and I am using it with out problems other than the lte band is a lil slower
If she just gave it to you for use on att how was it unlocked?
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If she just gave it to you for use on att how was it unlocked?
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i just found out that she was using it on tmobile but got it threw samsung i guess i shouldve asked her all the details from the get go sorry for oping my big mouth without my facts together
That might your bandwidth speeds. Sounds like it might be an international model maybe? It would work on T-Mobile or AT&T, but you wouldn't pick up full LTE speeds.
Hi!
I previously had a Note 4 for a day or two after release, coming from at that time, an iPhone. I subsequently returned the note, kept the iPhone, and recently upgraded to the 6+. Now with ATT's mobile share, I'm looking at adding a second line for how cheap it is. I'd like for that second line to be an android device, to get the best of both worlds. As a result of being out of the mix when it comes to android, or more like never having been in it, I have a couple questions.
I distinctly remember how much junk was on my ATT Note 4. Junk apps from Samsung, junk from ATT- and worst of all, I couldn't do anything about it (no root?). Has that changed? Is there a way to remove these apps, fix touch wiz annoyances, etc? I'd think that would require root, but like I mentioned, I don't know the details of note4 root status, or even rooting in general.
I currently have a Nexus 6 and Oneplus One on order (good prices on both of them), but personally like the Note4 the best- can I change it to make it perfect? Or is it still locked down and junked up?
Thanks for your help!
Don't get the AT&T Note 4. Get the T-Mobile Note 4 and use it on the AT&T network. The AT&T version is locked down whereas the T-Mobile version is not which means it's rootable. It looks like the AT&T Note 4 will never see permanent root, ever.
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I just bought my note 4 two weeks ago. If I could go back in time I would have bought the nexus 6. This phone lags too much for my liking. It is actually slower than my g2 was at opening apps. I thought I would like this phone but at this point regret my choice.
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Don't get the AT&T Note 4. Get the T-Mobile Note 4 and use it on the AT&T network. The AT&T version is locked down whereas the T-Mobile version is not which means it's rootable. It looks like the AT&T Note 4 will never see permanent root, ever.
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So just to be clear, I can root a T-Mobile version of the note 4, and use it on att, with no loss of functionality(network speeds/lte bands/that sort of thing)? That sounds like a really attractive option to me. Would T-Mobile let me walk in and buy a device just straight up?
Thanks for the help!
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So just to be clear, I can root a T-Mobile version of the note 4, and use it on att, with no loss of functionality(network speeds/lte bands/that sort of thing)? That sounds like a really attractive option to me. Would T-Mobile let me walk in and buy a device just straight up?
Thanks for the help!
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OK heres what you do if they won't let you buy it straight up. Buy the t mobile version on the payment plan because like that there's no contact or ETF. Go home and make a call for 5 min on T mobile sim, then submit the imei to cell unlocker net. Then in a few days call and cancel the service with Tmobile and pay the remainder of the phone off, which by the way is $100 cheaper then the AT&T version. After receiving the unlock code from cell unlocker stick the AT&T sim in and when it boots it will ask for the unlock code, put it in and your good to go.
I have both versions of the note 4 and the t mobile version works perfect on the AT&T network except you have root, custom roms and kernels. All the rom developers in the note 4 t mobile forum full support the AT&T network in there roms straight out the box.
You might want to wait 3 months for the note 5 because this phone is already dated and is a big investment.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the help Sand, that is a great explanation. The tmobile device is clearly better then- no loss of service quality or anything, but still having the root, roms, etc. I think regardless of the imminent release of the note 5, I might still get the four for now, or just keep that incoming OPO One- waiting 3 months for the note 5, plus however much more time for rooting dev is a bit long for me. Regardless, I appreciate your information!
I got a nexus 6. Traded it for my Note 4, plus the guy gave me 50 bucks. So that sweetened the deal for me. Overall I'm very happy with the trade, especially because I have an unlocked bootloader and can put any rom I want on it. So happy beyond belief. I'm sorry to anyone still stuck on their ATT note 4. It was pure boredom for me. Wish everyone on this forum luck, and it was fun while it lasted with you guys!
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I got a nexus 6. Traded it for my Note 4, plus the guy gave me 50 bucks. So that sweetened the deal for me. Overall I'm very happy with the trade, especially because I have an unlocked bootloader and can put any rom I want on it. So happy beyond belief. I'm sorry to anyone still stuck on their ATT note 4. It was pure boredom for me. Wish everyone on this forum luck, and it was fun while it lasted with you guys!
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I feel l ya.
Personally, I won't own a Nexus. I need a top notch camera, and it just falls short.
But between the Note 5 lacking expandable memory, I have chosen to go with the LV V10 (when released) as my next phone, even though I love the Note line. And, of course, AT&T will not ever be in my carrier line again.
This video had some pretty nifty tips to address the battery and expandable memory issues in the note 5 - https://youtu.be/lFyZ5YyAsk4..
Everyone carries a battery pack anyway and I've personally not replaced the battery on note 4 since I bought it last year..
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I'm happy for you. Personally I will never buy another Samsung phone again from AT&T. If they want government contracts that much then go right ahead. I'm going to definitely get new LG V10 when it comes out but hoping that the bootloader isn't locked and that I can at least put in a 128gb micr sd memory card. With Samsung doing what they did to make the S6 more like the Note series it's safe to say that the Galaxy Note series is officially dead. It's crazy how Samsung sacrificed their best selling line of phones for another line of phones that fail every year in sales and customer satisfaction. You would have thought that the Galaxy Note series would've became Samsung's new flagship phone. Wish I still had my Note 3 cause it was rooted but I'm stuck now with the Note 4. LG V10 or an iPhone cause those are my only options.
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This video had some pretty nifty tips to address the battery and expandable memory issues in the note 5 - https://youtu.be/lFyZ5YyAsk4..
Everyone carries a battery pack anyway and I've personally not replaced the battery on note 4 since I bought it last year..
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Couple things.
First, placing your pictures in Google, according to their policy you agree to when you use it, allows them to use any of those pictures for advertisement of their products or services. And they can do so without your permission, since you agree to it by using them to store your pics. Frankly, I'm not too keen on that one.
Also, since I listen to a lot of music, but get songs from different sources, Google Music is not an option since you can't listen to songs through them that was not purchased through them.
Music & pictures/camera are my primary concerns when buying a new phone, and I use a lot of space for them. On my Note 4, I've got a 128gb card with a 32gb phone, and I'm down to 12 gigs on the card and 6 on the phone. But personally, I love having everything I want at my fingertips without using external storage or needing to be around a signal.
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Google Music is not an option since you can't listen to songs through them that was not purchased through them.
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I'm a die hard Google music user. I uploaded my entire music collection to Google. Over 100 gigs total. None of it was purchased through google. I stream it every day from their app without problems.
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I got a nexus 6. Traded it for my Note 4, plus the guy gave me 50 bucks. So that sweetened the deal for me. Overall I'm very happy with the trade, especially because I have an unlocked bootloader and can put any rom I want on it. So happy beyond belief. I'm sorry to anyone still stuck on their ATT note 4. It was pure boredom for me. Wish everyone on this forum luck, and it was fun while it lasted with you guys!
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With 5.1.1 the note 4 is a brand new phone ?, i am actually liking the phone and functionality. It's smooth and just feels good to use. If you haven't updated you need to, update to the 5.1.1 on att totally worth the trouble.
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So, Im with you guys on this... I CANNOT use an unrooted phone. Problem is, I also MUST have a stylus with pin point precision... Can anyone help me out bc I cant find a single device (NO APPLE) that has one besides the note line! I would go back to my Note 2 if the screen wassnt smashed... Are their ANY options for my needs? TIA!
Find a t-mobile version of the Note 4, unlock it and use it on AT&T. It's rootable and flashable.
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Find a t-mobile version of the Note 4, unlock it and use it on AT&T. It's rootable and flashable.
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That's what I am going to do.
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Find a t-mobile version of the Note 4, unlock it and use it on AT&T. It's rootable and flashable.
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Looking at the specs for both, it looks like they're MOSTLY identical...except that AT&T and T-Mo have most, but not all, of the same frequencies for UMTS and LTE bands. Everything seems the same, except:
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UMTS 900 (Band 8)LTE 2600 (Band 7)T-Mobile
UMTS 1700/2100 (Band 4)LTE 900 (Band 8)LTE 1800 (Band 3)
Are the frequencies that AT&T and T-Mo share, those frequencies that they both use most commonly, and the above frequencies are mostly just for increasing available bandwidth for their respective networks? Or is it possible that either of them might use only the above bands, in some areas?
I have no idea about frequency stuff. All I know is that I've read on here about people getting the t-mobile version specifically because the AT&T version is not rootable.
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I have no idea about frequency stuff. All I know is that I've read on here about people getting the t-mobile version specifically because the AT&T version is not rootable.
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Yes, the frequencies between AT&T and T-Mobile are different and do matter when it comes to data. You will not be able to get access to all towers LTE tech unless the phone has the proper hardware in it. It will limit your 4G usage but you could at least have a rooted phone. You kind of have to pick your poison in that regards.
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Yes, the frequencies between AT&T and T-Mobile are different and do matter when it comes to data. You will not be able to get access to all towers LTE tech unless the phone has the proper hardware in it. It will limit your 4G usage but you could at least have a rooted phone. You kind of have to pick your poison in that regards.
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I hope the other guy sees this, then. I'm not in the market to swap phones. I'm fine on my stock AT&T note 4. This makes sense, though.
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Yes, the frequencies between AT&T and T-Mobile are different and do matter when it comes to data. You will not be able to get access to all towers LTE tech unless the phone has the proper hardware in it. It will limit your 4G usage but you could at least have a rooted phone. You kind of have to pick your poison in that regards.
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Actually, from what I could tell, if pdadb.net and wikipedia have their respective info correct (and current), the only frequencies the T-Mobile version doesn't have, that the AT&T version has, are frequencies that aren't even used by any U.S. carriers. According to pdadb.net, the frequencies the AT&T version can use, that aren't available on the T-Mobile Note 4 are UMTS 900 (Band 8), and LTE 2600 (Band 7). According to this Wikipedia article, the LTE2600 band isn't in use anywhere in the US. It's used in Canada, but I don't anticipate visiting there, or anywhere else outside of the US, any time soon. (There's another article that shows similar info about the UMTS900 band, but that's even less relevant.)
So, it looks like I'm looking for a T-Mobile Note 4, if I can find one for cheap, that's not too scratched up, or anything.
I just gave up on my att note 4. Switched to the T-mobile version.
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Gave my wife the Note 4 cause she broke her Lg G Pro. Had to use my Nexus 4 for a week. I kind of like the small form factor. Any ways..picked up a Lg G3 off ebay for $150 bucks like new. Enjoying custom roms!
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Picked up a T-mobile note 5 on BF and traded an old iPhone for it.. Adios to my note 4 soon!
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Picked up a T-mobile note 5 on BF and traded an old iPhone for it.. Adios to my note 4 soon!
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What's bf
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What's bf
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Black Friday