Is this the correct storage space? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have just noticed that I dont have anywhere near 16gb storage spage on my device. Is this correct? Only 10.36 total storage, or am I missing something?
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simacca said:
I have just noticed that I dont have anywhere near 16gb storage spage on my device. Is this correct? Only 10.36 total storage, or am I missing something?
Stock rom, not rooted.
Sorry about the empty post underneath, but I cant delete it for some reason.
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A little bit of research on your part would make the world a better place for everybody. Basically, the reason why you aren't seeing a full sixteen geebees on your device is due to a few things.
How the flash chip manufacturer determines capacities (giga vs gibi)
File system format
Partition(s)
and how the OS calculates the capacity of the flash storage chip (again, giga vs gibi)
I'll leave it up to you to discover the technical specifics on the how's and why's of it all, but just kindly keep in mind that you are definitely getting what you have paid for. There isn't some terrible conspiracy robbing you of your geebees, and this is just "the way it is" with any computerized storage medium.

RueGorE said:
A little bit of research on your part would make the world a better place for everybody. Basically, the reason why you aren't seeing a full sixteen geebees on your device is due to a few things.
How the flash chip manufacturer determines capacities (giga vs gibi)
File system format
Partition(s)
and how the OS calculates the capacity of the flash storage chip (again, giga vs gibi)
I'll leave it up to you to discover the technical specifics on the how's and why's of it all, but just kindly keep in mind that you are definitely getting what you have paid for. There isn't some terrible conspiracy robbing you of your geebees, and this is just "the way it is" with any computerized storage medium.
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Thankyou. I admit to being a bit lazy and not searching first . I knew I wouldn't get the full 16gb (taking into account the operating system, etc etc), but didn't realise that it would be this much less. This must be the lowest amount I have experienced on a 16gb phone so far.
I was expecting at least 13gb
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$63.10 SanDisk Ultra 64 GB microSDXC Class 10 UHS-1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007WTAJTO
I've been waiting for the price to drop on this card. Just giving everyone a heads up on a great deal on a fast card.
will our phones support 64gb no problem?
i saw that earlier as well, but hesitant, dont know if phone supports it or not
The phones will support it Just fine. You have to format it and Max file size is limited to just 4gigs, I believe.
Solid card, i have the 16gb version of that and the speeds are insane, def a step up from my class 4 sd card
Whooot!
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nice been looking for a deal!
I thought the E4GT only supported up to 32gb?
AssMilk said:
I thought the E4GT only supported up to 32gb?
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Nope! Working on my phone.
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Just wanted to say thanks for the heads up... Didn't get the 64gb card but never would have thought these would be so cheap on Amazon!
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I thought this phone only handle 32gb card
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I thought this phone only handle 32gb card
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And I thought people could read at least one Page!
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And I thought people could read at least one Page!
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Yes, yes, but it's still quite odd; you don't often hear about manufacturers/carriers underestimating their own devices.
In other words, has anyone actually tried filling a 64GB card to max capacity with data on the phone itself? Or is it only addressing the first 32GB like I would expect? Just because the card happens to be readable doesn't mean it's actually fully working like it should, so I'd still be wary about landing the money on a 64GB card for a phone that Sprint claims supports up to only 32GB.
If it *is* only addressing the first 32GB, then the only remotely possible option to get the full 64GB capacity is to re-partition the external SD as two 32GB (roughly; probably a little less) partitions. However, that's a *very* big "if" as to whether or not that actually works, since SD cards (and other flash-based external memory devices like USB thumbdrives) are designed (and expected) to have only one large partition. Similarly, you'd have to do some serious modding to get both partitions mounted (if the phone's card reader itself isn't the limitation).
In all likelihood, even that above solution would probably not work due to hardware/firmware limitations. This is similar to giving older computers big hard drives; even though the hard drive will certainly be usable, many older BIOSes are incapable of accessing anything beyond a certain capacity (in the case of an old Compaq laptop I have, that limit would be 10GB).
tl;dr: don't assume that the ability to mount the SD card automatically means all the space on it is accessible from the phone.
i ordered this card after seeing this thread.
it came in today.
i cant get the phone to read it.
i formatted it and tried everything.
dunno whats up.
M1nze said:
i ordered this card after seeing this thread.
it came in today.
i cant get the phone to read it.
i formatted it and tried everything.
dunno whats up.
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Format to FAT32 and will work
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YellowApple said:
Yes, yes, but it's still quite odd; you don't often hear about manufacturers/carriers underestimating their own devices.
In other words, has anyone actually tried filling a 64GB card to max capacity with data on the phone itself? Or is it only addressing the first 32GB like I would expect? Just because the card happens to be readable doesn't mean it's actually fully working like it should, so I'd still be wary about landing the money on a 64GB card for a phone that Sprint claims supports up to only 32GB.
If it *is* only addressing the first 32GB, then the only remotely possible option to get the full 64GB capacity is to re-partition the external SD as two 32GB (roughly; probably a little less) partitions. However, that's a *very* big "if" as to whether or not that actually works, since SD cards (and other flash-based external memory devices like USB thumbdrives) are designed (and expected) to have only one large partition. Similarly, you'd have to do some serious modding to get both partitions mounted (if the phone's card reader itself isn't the limitation).
In all likelihood, even that above solution would probably not work due to hardware/firmware limitations. This is similar to giving older computers big hard drives; even though the hard drive will certainly be usable, many older BIOSes are incapable of accessing anything beyond a certain capacity (in the case of an old Compaq laptop I have, that limit would be 10GB).
tl;dr: don't assume that the ability to mount the SD card automatically means all the space on it is accessible from the phone.
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It's never ALL accessible whether it's supported or not whether it's computer phone or any device. Making two partitions would have you lose even more space and isn't necessary, once card is formatted to FAT32 it WILL work people.
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I have been thinking alot about getting a new card.But after I looked more into it 32gb is a max. I could really not use up 64 gb unless I am loading it up with my girl's Disney movies and Transformers G1 episodes.
With 16gb internal and 32gb ext. that would be more than adequate,cause most of the time i am transferring data back to my PC. Especially backups and ROMS.
djdlp said:
I have been thinking alot about getting a new card.But after I looked more into it 32gb is a max. I could really not use up 64 gb unless I am loading it up with my girl's Disney movies and Transformers G1 episodes.
With 16gb internal and 32gb ext. that would be more than adequate,cause most of the time i am transferring data back to my PC. Especially backups and ROMS.
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Trust me this is one of those things that once you get it your going to be asking yourself why you didn't always have it this way and that you need it
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64 gb works perfectly in my phone, all you have to do is format it once through and bam double the max of what the box says, the extra space is well worth it
What class SD is it? I am curious if it truely makes a difference between class 6 and class 10. Never saw any comparisons on them.
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It's never ALL accessible whether it's supported or not whether it's computer phone or any device. Making two partitions would have you lose even more space and isn't necessary, once card is formatted to FAT32 it WILL work people.
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I think you misunderstood what I'm saying. Splitting into two partitions will create some overhead with additional file allocation tables and partition data, sure, but it's nothing compared to losing half of your card's capacity because the device you're using the card on isn't capable of addressing past the 32GB mark. There's a difference between "it'll work" and "it'll work correctly", and in this case that difference is 32GB of potentially-inaccessible capacity.
So, I reiterate: has anyone verified that the phone is capable of reading and writing to the entire capacity of the card? Does it recognize the card's capacity to be 64GB (or something close)? Does writing more than 32GB worth of files actually work, or does the operation fail (or worse, overwrite data)? I'll see if I can get my hands on one of these cards so I can perform this kind of test, but until someone confirms this, it would be wise to maintain some healthy skepticism, lest you buy a fancy 64GB card just to figure out that it works no better than a 32GB card.
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I think you misunderstood what I'm saying. Splitting into two partitions will create some overhead with additional file allocation tables and partition data, sure, but it's nothing compared to losing half of your card's capacity because the device you're using the card on isn't capable of addressing past the 32GB mark. There's a difference between "it'll work" and "it'll work correctly", and in this case that difference is 32GB of potentially-inaccessible capacity.
So, I reiterate: has anyone verified that the phone is capable of reading and writing to the entire capacity of the card? Does it recognize the card's capacity to be 64GB (or something close)? Does writing more than 32GB worth of files actually work, or does the operation fail (or worse, overwrite data)? I'll see if I can get my hands on one of these cards so I can perform this kind of test, but until someone confirms this, it would be wise to maintain some healthy skepticism, lest you buy a fancy 64GB card just to figure out that it works no better than a 32GB card.
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It has been verified by a few users in this thread already as well as others. Read a bit of this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1799634(as long as it is an actual SanDisk card then there is no reason to worry) it will work.
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Preorder 32/64 GB

The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
djfuego said:
Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Because I choose to buy a 64GB version. I didn't ask which one I should get, I asked where I could find those versions. Anyway most high end Android phones can all be overclocked. Like One X or S III. People run them at 1.8GHz without issues.
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Honestly why do you need that much space/speed ? Just stick a 32gb card in it. If you try to overclock it you'll just fry it and kill the battery and any warranty.
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Your storage space issue is for me the easiest to answer. I am an extensive user of audio books. The teaching company series, Will Durant's seminal 12 volume series, podcasts, science fiction audio... Asimov, Huxley, Clarke, current fiction, "Why the West Rules for Now" (i highly recommend by the way) is how i keep sane on morning and evening commutes. I have a 16gb g-note and a 64gb SD card and i use all of this storage. Samsung's release of a new 128gb SD card will be none to soon, and if it cannot be utilized on my current note, it will most likely spur me to buy the note 2 with 2 GB ram and 64 GB SD internal. I also can access and stream from my collection on my home server but my at&t "unlimited" isn't, so i use WiFi whenever possible. This means that i use the phones memory as a cache buffer to limit my telecoms' leverage. Concerning speed. I am currently testing an incredible voice control app called Utter. Extremely flexible, configurable and powerful. Coupled with Ivona voice the results are simply stunning. I am also running a custom JellyBean rom called slimbean that is half the size of ice cream, is overclocked at 1.8 ghz and is as smooth as a baby's butt. I've been overclocking and flashing roms since i joined xda, its why i joined xda. I understand your credulity, we do still call these devices phones after all. i am also aware that my setup and usage is not typical, yet it is just this flexibility of android and current Samsung products that make them so attractive people like us with such differing needs and views.
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To the Op, i am keeping my eye out for the larger 32/64 internal storage versions and will let you know if i stumble on a release date reference. Thanks for starting this thread
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Every time someone responds to a person who asks about when a model with a larger storage will be out with the "you don't need that much" line, or something like that, they should get an infraction.
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Every time someone responds to a person who asks about when a model with a larger storage will be out with the "you don't need that much" line, or something like that, they should get an infraction.
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3 strike policy, and you're out of XDA, haha
First time i heard the "you don't need that much.... " line was when i opted for a 10MB hard drive for my then new spanking hot PC AT. It had a 16bit processor and 512kb of ram...my buddy had the
commodore 64 (64 KB of ram and a cassette based memory). Despite his lack of technical sense, we remain friends to this day. Unsurprisingly, he favors that other phone ecosystem....the glass jewelry ones with those little screens. He still freaks out when he sees my note. His first words? Yeah, you guessed it; " you don't need that much..." I notice his wife checking it out though... So maybe there is some justice in this life
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You only get to see the true value of a decision if you get to live with it.
I had friends that laughed at me s3 about its size. Now one of thes ( a .... girl! ) got one for free
Her first reaction was "un#@#$ing believable... i was blind and now i saw!"
Same thing with 2nd battery. People give 500+$ for a phone and they don't get an extra battery and a charger.
If i borrow them mine for a few days they get to "see the light"
Same thing with sd cards. From 16 to 32 and from there to 64gb they were telling me what you will do with all that space for ?
Guess what? Its usually full.
So i ll be waiting for the 32gb at least , i dont believe we will see a 64gb version sadly
We might need to wait for a month or so to get it
64gb + 64gb
I have about 80GB of mp3 files which I want to carry around with me. I have several GB more of pictures I have a Galaxy S3 with 32GB internal and a 64GB card, and it's getting crowded. And I'll keep adding more files. Maybe one day I'll be comfortable with keeping this in "the cloud", or streaming it from HDs in my house, but right now I want it all on my phone.
Right now Samsung's web page only mentions a 16GB version for US carriers. I definitely won't buy that.
I agree with the philosophy of not questioning why someone wants the storage they want.
It is already available for pre-order on some sites (handyshop.de) by an exorbitant price of 899 eur and a delivery date at the end of October...
MartinDLawliet said:
The Note II is certainly the (if not) best Android phone of 2012. I'm just wondering, does anyone know when the 32/64 GB versions of the Note II will be available. Currently there's only the 16GB version. Also, do you think the Note II will get a 2GHz stable overclock? I I'd like to think so. Thanks
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I was wondering the same as well. I just ordered my Note 2, but am wondering about the storage. I have a 16GB Nexus 7 and have found that with no music/videos/picutres stored, I cannot download all of my apps without getting a low storage warning.
Anyone have issues with downloading around 200 apps on a 16GB Note 2? I know you can add an SD Card, but that doesnt help with app storage, correct? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I was wondering the same as well. I just ordered my Note 2, but am wondering about the storage. I have a 16GB Nexus 7 and have found that with no music/videos/picutres stored, I cannot download all of my apps without getting a low storage warning.
Anyone have issues with downloading around 200 apps on a 16GB Note 2? I know you can add an SD Card, but that doesnt help with app storage, correct? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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just wait and purchased highest memory storage device.. 16gb will give you actually 11gb and which will spent very fast..
I am going to sell my 16gb note 2 soon.. its worthless as we cant install apps on external SDCard

[Q] why i have only 10.36 gb memory instead of 16 gb

frnds,as the titles says plz hlp...m s2 have 14.35 gb,it was ok but 10 gb damm...
The missing storage is partitioned for the system.
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The missing storage is partitioned for the system.
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i know but why 4 gb,unlike my s2...n r u guys having 10.36 gb too,r its only me
i have 10.36 gb free space too. all Note 2 have that much free space
OS eats up lots of memory
That's how it is. Space is lower than what manufacturers advertise + system hogs space. Just buy a 64GB microsd card, they're not expensive.
sajadkhan806 said:
i know but why 4 gb,unlike my s2...n r u guys having 10.36 gb too,r its only me
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The 8GB Nexus 4 has just over 5GB of usable storage. There is a mod for the Note 2 where you can use your external microSD as your internal SD and vice versa. You might want to do this if you have a 64GB microSD so you'll have a lot of "internal" storage.
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The 8GB Nexus 4 has just over 5GB of usable storage. There is a mod for the Note 2 where you can use your external microSD as your internal SD and vice versa. You might want to do this if you have a 64GB microSD so you'll have a lot of "internal" storage.
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I think that we do have that mod, i have read about it in themes and apps its a sticky, they have ported it from the s3 threads.
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I think that we do have that mod, i have read about it in themes and apps its a sticky, they have ported it from the s3 threads.
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That's cool .
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That's cool .
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The link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32487083
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hmmmm im just wondering why it shows my total storage is at 10.xx gig only and free storage is at 9.xx gig when it should be 16 gig total and less than that when you install apps....and i just got my phone today....enlighten me please....
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That's how it is. Space is lower than what manufacturers advertise + system hogs space. Just buy a 64GB microsd card, they're not expensive.
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mate i have a 32 transcend card,thats not an issue but i hated to see only 10.36 out of the advertised one,thats why...thanks all for directing towards that mod...
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mate i have a 32 transcend card,thats not an issue but i hated to see only 10.36 out of the advertised one,thats why...thanks all for directing towards that mod...
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You still get the advertised 16GB but only 10GB is usable.
There's a good explanation for the "discrepancy" on memory.
Before I explain, you need to know that the manufacturers have not lied about the space they are offering. It's a good play of words.
First, there is a difference between,
A gigabyte and,
A giga byte.
The former is the actual term for that memory band.
The latter is simply a play on 10^9.
A gigabyte is 1024 megabytes. And a megabyte is 1024 kilobytes. And lastly, a kilobyte is 1024 bytes. Multiply that: 1024^3 and you get:
1,073,741,824 bytes.
So a gigabyte has 1,073,741,824 bytes.
You would think manufacturers would give you the full amount of bytes in each of their gigabyte.
Wrong, they simply adopted that a "GB" =
1 x 10^9 bytes. In other words,
1000000000 bytes. Which is technically true.
Since its standard notation that,
Kilo=1000
Mega=1000000
Etc...
Now that you know how they purposefully misled you, but not illegally, you can calculate your own true memory space in byte form.
Take your 16,000,000,000 and divide it by 1,073,741,824
Your magic number becomes
14.9011611938
That's the amount of real gigabytes you have.
Then there's the OS.
Try it yourself with your PC hard drive. There is always ~6.9% "discrepancy".
My HDD sells as 500GB,
In reality, I get 465 gigabytes.
This applies to all flash memory, hard drives. Also includes your SD card.
Firms also use it to advertise Internet speeds. In this case they like to use megabits instead. Where a byte = 8 bits.
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II
There's also a 1.3gb system cache partition which is largely free, Amy idea why it's so large?
Sory if this is ot but Can i ask - do i need to install antivirus for the note 2? Pls bear with me as this is my very first android device 
Also is it safe to download torrents directly into the note2? Using the utorrent app
Thanks!!
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Sort of....
D4rkShadow said:
i have 10.36 gb free space too. all Note 2 have that much free space
OS eats up lots of memory
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Well your partly right, I have the not2 i317 and i have 11.07 gb total space..my point here is that its not that all phones have 10.36 its that your rom and kernal does take up space, however it depends how big they are
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Sory if this is ot but Can i ask - do i need to install antivirus for the note 2? Pls bear with me as this is my very first android device 
Also is it safe to download torrents directly into the note2? Using the utorrent app
Thanks!!
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You should probably ask that on a different thread since this has nothing to do with the op posted qustion, But ill answer, I need more posts up anyway gotta get rid of this junior member thing haunting me on my left, anyway, Do you need an anti-virus...no, i don't use one, the amount of Linux viruses are very low, but if you want to be safe then go ahed and get it. Are torrent is safe using the utorrent app. Well the app itself doesn't make them safe it depends on what you download, uploaders can upload good files, or they can upload harmful ones, you gotta be careful, and honestly ive had bad luck with the android utorrent app anyway, I use torrents on my computer there is really not much need to use them for your phone as most app sizes are pretty small and download quickly, and you can find most apps online just searching for the apk's if you fail or don't want to use the market...hope this helps, and apologize to everyone else for responding to an off topic post, and also doubble bumping an old thread
kidbrax said:
hmmmm im just wondering why it shows my total storage is at 10.xx gig only and free storage is at 9.xx gig when it should be 16 gig total and less than that when you install apps....and i just got my phone today....enlighten me please....
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You should see what dr.ketan explain here if you wanna know

Memory question

I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available. Is everyone getting that little space? My Nexus 7 had something like 13.5GB free, and my Note 10.1 had around 12GB free. I know you lose a bit due to file system format, etc...but over 6GB of 16? That seems messed up.
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I picked up the note 8.0 the other day and I'm really enjoying it, but I looked in the storage section in settings and was perplexed. It shows only 9.78GB of total internal storage available.
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I saw in another thread in one of these xda Note 8.0 forums about folks mentioning the same thing, so I'm pretty sure it is not just you. Yeah, it is disappointing.
Yup. Samsung are taking massive chunks for system memory these days.
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Nexus 7, plain android. Note 8, touchwiz, plus lots of bloat.
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4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.
Don't have my device on me, but a df might tell how much of the /system partition's actually in use. My memory is that it's only about 60% or so.
parted can probably be used to resize /system but unless it's adjacent to /data, you'll want to take very careful notes before attempting that surgery.
Fortunately, you can use uni-init or term-init.sh to enable init.d scripts and then mount the sdcard as if it were internal storage. Most of my app data is written to my sdcard using that technique.
But we have an sd card slot, my N7 doesn't. Thats a nice addition to have.
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4GB of bloat above and beyond vanilla Android??? In a mobile OS like Android, that's a lot of bloat when you figure the average large app (not including games) is still near or under 25MB. That's about 160 apps at 25MB each!
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Its not just bloat (apps) but OS (ROM) itself takes up more memory once the manufacturers start to add their proprietary "skins" to vanilla Android. Think of the extra features like Multi-Window and Smart Stay. That stuff takes up space, and the stock ROM is pretty huge (over 1 GB, I believe).
Not to mention, Sammy probaby reserves a chunk more on the ROM partition, in case they want to add more features on future updates.
Its very much the same on HTC devices, as well. On my One X, its also got 16 GB of memory, but only 9.93 GB available as storage.
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Anyway, it kind of sucks. If they are going to eat up that much space with sheet they should make it with 24GB of storage so that when they sell a 16GB device it actually has 16GB!!! Ah well...I'm just *****ing now.
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It would be nice if they actually reported the "user accessible storage" amount, like saying "16 GB memory, with 10 GB user accessible". Since saying how much memory the device has, without telling us how much of it is sucked up by the OS, is kinda useless information.
It would have also been nice, if they had offered a 32 GB version in the US.
No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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No companies report true information like that. Just like cars they give you hp at crank, instead of at wheels, where there is around a 20% difference. Same concept here.
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Its more like the car company telling you the gas tank holds 16 gallons, when you can in fact only "use" 10 gallons of the gas tank.
I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.
teslap said:
I was trying out the demo set of Note 8 the other day at many different shops and were shock to see the the "available storage" on all the Note 8 were about 3.5GB to 3.8GB. I thought that being a demo set, it could be that there were many apps and useless stuff installed by other users. I've tried deleting useless data and uninstalling apps on 1 of them (resetting options were greyed out in settings) and still couldn't go above 4GB. I asked the staff and they confirmed that the "available storage" is that low. My question is whether the Note 8 used for demo were "different" from those that were for sale. It's quite unbelievable that all the Note 8 I saw (about 10 numbers at different shops) having so low storage available. That's one major reason I have not get my set yet.
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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.
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Looking at the numbers your talking about, it looks like that demo unit had 8GB of internal memory. The units that are available for purchase are 16gb units and have about 10GB of free space on them for apps etc. In addition to this you also have the microSD card slot that allows for extra storage for media files etc but not applications.
If you are willing to root your device, you are able to use external storage for app data as well though. I should be receiving my 16gb wifi note 8.0 this evening (fingers crossed it has been delivered to the store) and will be using a 64gb microSD card in conjuntion with an app called FolderMount in order to use it to transfer application data from the internal storage thus allowing me to install more apps and games.
If your holding out for a 32gb model you may be waiting a while though as the website customer services and samsung store employees told me that they are not aware of a release day for a higher capacity device.
The storage data I talk about is true for the UK, I dont know if it would be the same where you are, but from what I can tell, all note 8.0s are 16gb capaciity at the moment. Hope that helps.
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Thanks. I will go back to check with store on whether their demo set were the 8GB or 16GB version. I've googled for the tech spec on Note 8 and all comes with 16GB or 32GB. The nearest match to 8GB will be on a Tab2. Thanks again and I'm from Singapore.
Alright, I have checked with the store assistance and it was confirmed that at hit on display were Wi-Fi only and it's only at 8GB. I'm a happy owner of Note 8 now and it has 8.7GB of available storage.
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System taking up huge amount of space

Greetings,
my system takes up about 44GB in internal storage.
Even after a factory reset, it has been like this since I got the device
No matter if I'm using android 9 or android 10 beta
Do you guys experience the same?
The same, nature of the beast
My device shows a simmilar amount, 44.70 GB, system/user files, I think it is normal
raul6 said:
The same, nature of the beast
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I get that the system uses a lot of storage, but nowhere near this.
If you download a firmware file it is about 4 to 5 GB.
There is no way this gets extracted to 44GB
In my opinion Samsung is cutting space to market their cloud service and or bigger devices
Reaper1337 said:
I get that the system uses a lot of storage, but nowhere near this.
If you download a firmware file it is about 4 to 5 GB.
There is no way this gets extracted to 44GB
In my opinion Samsung is cutting space to market their cloud service and or bigger devices
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I want to know more about this...
Something shady here.
Reaper1337 said:
Greetings,
my system takes up about 44GB in internal storage.
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Just checked my N10+(snap), it's a lot less:
Exynos 256GB
winol said:
My device shows a simmilar amount, 44.70 GB, system/user files, I think it is normal
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Do you have the 512 or 256gb version?
I have the 256 GB
Ohhh..must be formating option, the bigger drive more space is lost l, like on hdd...
Makonator said:
Ohhh..must be formating option, the bigger drive more space is lost l, like on hdd...
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I know what you mean, but even with this in mind, there is no way that 44GB are just lost!
It should be less
Somewhere around 470GB
So, after partitioning the phone, there should be 476,8GB left
512 GB / (1024*1024*1024)
Reaper1337 said:
I know what you mean, but even with this in mind, there is no way that 44GB are just lost!
It should be less
Somewhere around 470GB
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I think system files are around 22gb and rest is just lost parttition space.
Remember there is A & B slots so a clone of OS for upgrading
DanXbix said:
Remember there is A & B slots so a clone of OS for upgrading
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Could you please explain further?
Mine takes 24.8 gigs on a U1 with Android 10
Reaper1337 said:
In my opinion Samsung is cutting space to market their cloud service and or bigger devices
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If that was the case then why offer 512 or an SDcard. I mean of course they want to sell more devices but thinking they are trying to use this to push cloud services seems a little far fetched.
If you haven't already decided to move to the cloud, I dont see how 44gb out of 512 will push you there. That is without even considering the SDcard.
It's the same on mine, i wouldn't mind even if I see people with half space taken from system: we probably have some dex or knox related stuffs active that they don't. I have the exynos 512 10+
Reaper1337 said:
Could you please explain further?
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Its in case a firmware install goes bad it reverts to other slot. There is 2 copys of the OS on system emmc.Actually I am incorrect https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kevintresuelo.treble
This device just full of bloat
Reaper1337 said:
Greetings,
my system takes up about 44GB in internal storage.
Even after a factory reset, it has been like this since I got the device
No matter if I'm using android 9 or android 10 beta
Do you guys experience the same?
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my n976v is only like half of that

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