Need to find a way to edit cloud synced, secure documents - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i could use some help here,
im trying to find a way to have a certain document editable on both my phone and my computer,
while keeping the changes made synced, and having that document password protected.
i have tried several solutions so far:
evernote - encryption is a paid feature in android
dropbox - here iv'e tried several things:
using favorites - could not get kingsoft office to edit the file after changes were made to it on the pc, ive seen it handle passowrd protection quite well with local files
using dropsync - for reasons unfathomable to me and as of yet unexplained (app developer was contacted about this as well, hes just as confused as i am), at unpredictable times, on unpredictable circumstances, when i sync folders with dropsync, some (not all) of the files, get erased locally, and then subsequently removed from dropbox, it doesnt always happen, but it makes this a very frustrating and unreliable solution
foldersync - wouldn't let me enter sync my dropbox account for some reason, brought up a login page with no response to any attempts on my side to input username/password
google docs - if i could get the app password protected, this would be a good solution, otherwise, access to my phone is enough to open and view the files
I would really appreciate any advice here,
Im frustrated with this thing to no end and can't seem to find a solution for something that i would have thought should be trivial

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What is Microsofts Idea for File transmitting?

I'm guessing (hoping?) that the current WP7 solution for transmitting stuff on and from the phone can not be the final concept. Its fine for now, as a workaround to send e.g. word and pdfs files per email onto your phone and vice versa, but forever? There must be a better solution.
I think the best solution is either through zune or through a dedicated folder plus mass storage mode.
An other program (and I include outlook) is a really bad idea in my opinion because users don't want to open more than one program to sync their phones.
Zune is a little bit awkward because its the dedicated Music/ Pictures/ Vids Part of your Phone. If everything would be synced through zune it would break with the separation that Microsoft build with the different hubs.
What do you think - where will Microsoft go with this topic? And does anybody know how Apple solved this with their iPhones?
001mic said:
I'm guessing (hoping?) that the current WP7 solution for transmitting stuff on and from the phone can not be the final concept. Its fine for now, as a workaround to send e.g. word and pdfs files per email onto your phone and vice versa, but forever? There must be a better solution.
I think the best solution is either through zune or through a dedicated folder plus mass storage mode.
An other program (and I include outlook) is a really bad idea in my opinion because users don't want to open more than one program to sync their phones.
Zune is a little bit awkward because its the dedicated Music/ Pictures/ Vids Part of your Phone. If everything would be synced through zune it would break with the separation that Microsoft build with the different hubs.
What do you think - where will Microsoft go with this topic? And does anybody know how Apple solved this with their iPhones?
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The fastest way would be Zune and Bluetooth send/receive.
It's necessary to have it to stay with the platform.
Skydrive and Mesh is almost certainly where they're headed. I'd be extremely surprised if Zune ever supported Office file transfers.
The cloud, nothing is faster than the cloud.
Edit a file on your desktop and it updates on all devices.
Need to share a file? Just share the link.
Cloud synchronization will be the norm.
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Jeffgeno beat me to it.
nothing is faster than cloud??? crazy.... upload to cloud and download to phone or upload direct from PC to phone.. which faster??? and safety??? upload confidential file to skydrive??? more crazy.....
We need a place to sync outlook files but aside from that what other files do you want on your device.... they're not necessary... I dont really wanna set up this whole cloud business
Cloud is great but in many scenarios IDIOTIC.
To put a doc on my phone I need 2 devices with connection - PC and phone. Sick!
And it's the first time I can't send anything by bluetooth to any other dumphone or phone without any data transfer. Sick too.
Right, let's just clear this up shall we?
Currently there are several methods of getting a file such as an Excel spreadsheet onto your phone.
1. Email it to yourself, then open and save the attachment on your phone.
2. Use the Live Mesh sync included with Windows Essentials to sync your excel files to Skydrive. Then navigate to your Skydrive on your phone and download the file(s) you need from there to your phone.
3. Download and run one of the many small free Webserver apps on your PC. then you can serve your files over your home network and download them to your phone just by browsing to your mini website.
I don't use 1, I tend to use 2 and occasionally 3 as some apps like 7Pass (a password manager) use web servers to obtain the (in this case a password) file from your PC.
The way forward will actually, IMHO be 2. But instead of navigating to your skydrive in a browser, it will become a native function, just like it is now with OneNote. The kind of instant two-way sync that OneNote has will be replicated for Word, Excel and Powerpoint, and possibly for any other types of file as well, which will hopefully allow any app to obtain its own filetype over Skydrive and indeed sync with it.
I'm optimistic this will happen in the update coming soon, but it might wait until the fall.
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The way forward will actually, IMHO be 2. But instead of navigating to your skydrive in a browser, it will become a native function, just like it is now with OneNote. The kind of instant two-way sync that OneNote has will be replicated for Word, Excel and Powerpoint, and possibly for any other types of file as well, which will hopefully allow any app to obtain its own filetype over Skydrive and indeed sync with it.
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I think this is the best way to go and hope microsoft will do it like that sooner or later.
I understand that and it's a valid point.
I too would like to have the possibility to sync files _without_ having any network connection because sometimes there simply is no network or you're in a foreign country...So hopefully there will be a way microsoft makes this possible.
But besides of that, syncing over cloud is important for me at least as long as i am at home or something.
I use a combination of email, DropBox and Skydrive, I would love to have the ability to sync directly with Outlook since my company doesn't have Exchange or if they had a sync tool like Google that will update your calendar through the cloud.
On a side note how do you save a PDF that I emailed to myself? I tried to open and save as and it doesn't give me that option.
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I use a combination of email, DropBox and Skydrive, I would love to have the ability to sync directly with Outlook since my company doesn't have Exchange or if they had a sync tool like Google that will update your calendar through the cloud.
On a side note how do you save a PDF that I emailed to myself? I tried to open and save as and it doesn't give me that option.
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Once you open it it's automatically saved to the phone.
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I too would like to have the possibility to sync files _without_ having any network connection because sometimes there simply is no network or you're in a foreign country...
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Er, if there's no network connection or you're in a foreign country, then you would just be using the locally cached copy of the file, until you either returned home or entered an area with coverage, at which point your phone would sync up.
The point is, your phone would be syncing on-the-fly whenever it could, and using local cache whenever it couldn't sync. Strikes me as the best of both worlds.
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Er, if there's no network connection or you're in a foreign country, then you would just be using the locally cached copy of the file, until you either returned home or entered an area with coverage, at which point your phone would sync up.
The point is, your phone would be syncing on-the-fly whenever it could, and using local cache whenever it couldn't sync. Strikes me as the best of both worlds.
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Okay, thanks for explaining. I didn't know that.
Well then it's good news. Except you will have to stop your phone from syncing when roaming. But i assume, that is possible? (couldnt test it out)
I'm not offended. I don't think no one else is either.
Its silly that they provide you with a cord for media, but that same cord is useless for one of the other touted features.
Guys, please keep this thread on topic, and quit with the bad language. Swearing is not tolerated on xda.
I'm going to assume that the integration will be more advanced and full soon... The whole point of this device is to utilize live functions... Like SkyDrive
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Please, Keep this thread clean and quit with the bad language.
Thank you.
Your talking about from phone to PC right? I think MS should give an option to allow an adjustable amount of your phone's memory to be used for USB mass storage functionality. Like make a slide saying, Maybe I want 2GB available, or maybe 20mb. You know to copy file formats WP7 supports. Atleast for what you can't sync via Zune Desktop software.

Dropbox Question

So I have a 2 part Dropbox question that basically amounts to me not fully understanding how it all works even though I use it on a daily basis... maybe someone here could help me out...
So I have Dropbox, on my phone (Galaxy Note 3) and 2 PCs, Home and Office.
Question 1 - You know how Dropbox on Android automatically when you're on Wifi uploads every single picture from your phone to a "Camera Uploads" folder on your Dropbox? Well since they're all uploaded already, and I have something like 3000 photos, which is starting to make my Gallery load slowly... Wouldn't the best way to clean them out be to just completely wipe all the photos from my phone... Then go through the Dropbox folder on one of my desktop computers and delete any crappy pictures I don't need to keep, leave the rest in there for backup purposes, and then if I wanted to keep some on my phone, copy those ones back onto my phone?
Question 2 - If I go through that "Camera Uploads" folder (Or any other folder in my Dropbox really) deleting and renaming and reorganizing files on one of my desktop computers... Will all those changes instantly happen on the others? Even if I'm deleting and/or renaming and/or moving around hundreds of files? What's to stop the other computer from syncing back to the one I'm currently going through and undoing all the changes I just made? Like if I have a folder called "X1" and another called "X2" and I delete a bunch of stuff out of each and then combine them into one and then name the new folder "X" ... The other computer at work isn't gonna go and sync my "X2" folder back to the computer I'm currently working on, right?
Obviously these are both a simple but clear misunderstanding of how all this cloud syncing works. I get it in principle, and use it constantly, but there are certain ideas of it that I think I'm just overthinking probably.
Any help would be appreciated.
Also I know that Q&A goes in the Q&A forum but I thought since this is a software thing and not really a phone thing it would be more appropriate in here...
From how I know it works (at least for me) as long as all accounts are logged in with the same info (name/password), and are auto-syncing, the folder that is modified first will be copied to the others when you open Dropbox on the others. In your example you have three (two PCs, and your phone). If you change something from your phone, it will replicate to your two PCs. If you change something on one of your PCs, it will replicate to your other PC, and your phone. It also works with the online site the same way. I just changed something in my phone, logged on to the website through my PC browser, and it replicated right away to match what I did on my phone.
EDIT - And I know you are talking about pics and gallery, and for that I would move/delete from the app on your phone, and not through the gallery. I think if you do something in the gallery it will just change back because you're not actually modifying Dropbox. I'm not really sure since I do all my stuff through Dropbox itself. You can try with one pic to see if it deletes from your other places if you delete it from the gallery.
Thanks for the reply. So yea if it's basically doing it instantly, then I think I'd be safe doing my plan the way I'm planning on it. My plan is to delete everything off the phone, which I know from experience doens't sync deletions to the dropbox... Just new pics get synced to dropbox... So if I delete pic11111.jpg it will still be in my dropbox folder... So with ALL my pics deleted from my phone's gallery, I can then go to my computer and spend a couple hours deleting specific garbage pictures, and those will then sync between the 2 pcs. Then I can move them out of that "Camera Uploads" folder and into a more permanent "Pics" folder. Or move first is probably even better...
Thanks again.
I use Dropbox all the time, I've got 4 accounts (Need that extra space) and then I've got it installed on my Note 3, Nexus 7, and a Galaxy S3. As for computers it's on my Mac, two laptops and a PC desktop. I installed them on all of those for the referral bonus space but now they all have the exact same account. So in answer to your question, you could go on your phone go into settings and turn off camera uploads, but then you would need to go into your gallery and manually upload the pictures you want to keep (which isn't a huge hassle to me at least.) Since you are using cloud storage technically all the photos that get uploaded wouldn't get eating up your space unless you have google+ enabled as well, then they will appear on your phone. Not all of them, but a good majority. I don't know what kind of a computer you use, but when I have dropbox on my MAC sync all of my folders that i have, I swear I get pictures that are quadrupled all the time....so frustrating. In answer to your second question, you can modify any picture, document, etc, that has been uploaded from dropbox to a computer and make any changes you want to it without it making changes to another linked computer. Only way it it would is if you put that changed photo for example, back into your dropbox folder. Hopefully that made sense

Note10+ move from Samsung Cloud to Onedrive -> server fault

All,
Today I received the firmware update for my Note10+ that contains the OneDrive integration. As I already have an Office365 subscription with 1Tb storage in OneDrive, I wanted to move there for backup. However, when I go through the Microsoft account linking part (enter Microsoft account, password, security code, password again), the app returns to the initial welcome screen with a message: server fault, please try again later.
Anyone else who has this error, or were you able to link the Samsung Cloud to Onedrive yet?
I have the exact same problem
i got the beta UI today and i was able to log in on first try. unlocked 10+ . already had onedrive. i use the microsoft authenticator and i had no issues .
Anyone with this problem fixed it yet? @Kruxarn, @marctronixx, any of you use 2 step verification on your Microsoft account?
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Anyone with this problem fixed it yet? @Kruxarn, @marctronixx, any of you use 2 step verification on your Microsoft account?
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Problem not solved.
Yes, i use two-step verification with my Microsoft Account.
I can try without two-step verification and report back.
Update:
it works without two-step verification.
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Update:
it works without two-step verification.
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Cool, thanks for testing. Does it still work when you turn it back on after the connection is made?
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Cool, thanks for testing. Does it still work when you turn it back on after the connection is made?
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Yes!
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Yes!
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Thanks for your feedback! I will try soon, as I have reported the issue with Samsung as well. I'll wait for their response before disabling/re-enabling the 2 factor auth.
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Seriously, what a disaster... Here my journey with the Samsung Support team...
- I initially made a call explaining the problem. The support agent told me that the integration is not active yet. I explained that a specific extra firmware was released in the Netherlands, explicitly reporting this feature in the release notes, so it would really surprise me if it was not available. The support agent then told me that the tech person was unavailable, but that they would call me back, the same day.
- I never received the call back, so I logged a question via Samsung Members. I got a response on that, telling me I had to send a screenshot and a log file (after enabling high level debug logging) on help.content.samsung.com
- I made a screenshot, but the log that was mentioned in a standard log enable procedure was not present on my phone, so I sent them again a clear description of the error, with a screenshot of the error, and a screenshot of the logs that were present, together with the question which of the logs shown they would need.
- This request was immediately answered that the samsung tech dept was going to look into it.
- Then I received an answer on the support site, telling me I had sent an invalid log file, and attached was the same procedure which was incorrect. I then looked for the 'reply' button. But wait.... THAT IS NOT PRESENT! You can only pose one question on which you receive an answer, but a customer is not able to reply to the thread again. No case numbers, whatever, to reference the question.
- So I called the support desk again, referring to the question on the support site. The response of the agent: "Unfortunately we can't see that, can you explain your problem please?" I then told her that Samsung first promised to call me back, which they didn't, and I told them that my problem description with the question about which logs to be sent, was not read at all (trust me, I am a tech guy, I know all about problem descriptions and logs) and I received a default reply instead. The support agent responded, "but we are not allowed to call back". After a few more words, she told me, "please hold on", and I thought I was put on hold.
- BUT NO! The agent actually put me back in the queue, as she probably did not want to talk to me anymore! So I ended up with another support agent, who I had to explain the problem again from start. I was again told that the tech person was not available. I asked if he could call me back when he was, but again it was confirmed that Samsung support is not allowed to call customers... Like WTF... They can't call back people who bought their most expensive flagship phones?? The support agent then advised me to call the Account department. I asked if she could transfer me, but of course, she could not.
- So I called the Account department. I AGAIN eplained the problem, and the Account guy told me that that made sense, as the Onedrive service is not available in Europe yet. I again explained that Samsung explicitly released a separate additional firmware update with this feature in the release notes. He told me that he would email me some information and when I have received the information, I could call back and I would directly speak to the person who knew all about it.
- At this point I was so pissed by how this went, I disabled the two-step authentication on my Microsoft account, and I could indeed connect to Onedrive!!! The only problem now is that the Settings give an error when backed up.
- But I decided to give them one more call to see how they would respond. And I indeed got the person on the line who her colleague referred to earlier. She told me she had sent me an email telling me what log to send. When I asked her the time and date of that email, she mentioned a time which was half an hour before I even created the request. As I own the email server on which the email should be delivered, I could check the logs there, and no email was received at that moment. She did mention the name of the log file though. However, a log file I have, that mostly resembles what was requested, was in a Gear folder and contains mainly logging about the Gear services. At this moment I told her that the problem was fixed by temporarily disabling the two step verification on the Microsoft account, and I asked her if the service was indeed unavailable in Europe, as her colleague told me. She told me that the service should be available.
Conclusion:
On all ways of contacting Samsung, there is no way in responding on a reply, whether it is in Samsung Members, on the support site, or via email. One answer from Samsung should apparently be enough, and Samsung actually does not want to talk to customers (as one of the agents just transferred me away). The support staff tells me there is no way to get in direct touch with the tech staff. There are no procedures for complaints, they are not allowed to call back customers...
When you look at how Samsung exposes their support (via Samsung Members, Facebook Chat, phone, etc.) it looks as they go the extra mile for their customers, but when you actually talk to them, you end up in a non-flexible inefficient non-motivated support maze....Way to go, for flagship fans....
Ok... I'm a little more calm now...
My apologies for my rant....
please, who migrated samsung cloud to onedrive could confirm if the files appear on windows 10 PC in the default system folders or backups appear in another specific folder? I have Xbox shared with a friend and I don't want him seeing my cellphone stuff on his Xbox ... Can the vault be set up to save things on it?
Big Boss said:
please, who migrated samsung cloud to onedrive could confirm if the files appear on windows 10 PC in the default system folders or backups appear in another specific folder? I have Xbox shared with a friend and I don't want him seeing my cellphone stuff on his Xbox ... Can the vault be set up to save things on it?
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I got OneDrive connected (I did not want to say 'working'), but I can't find any backup related items in the standard OneDrive folders, except that the Gallery sync can go there (but only from internal memory, not from SD card). The only thing I notice is that when going to the Samsung Cloud settings page, various links go to the OneDrive app instead of Samsung folders.
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I got OneDrive connected (I did not want to say 'working'), but I can't find any backup related items in the standard OneDrive folders, except that the Gallery sync can go there (but only from internal memory, not from SD card). The only thing I notice is that when going to the Samsung Cloud settings page, various links go to the OneDrive app instead of Samsung folders.
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Exactly, my sync was not working, I removed everything and redo the sync and returned to normal, really only appears in windows the gallery photo folder, the other things that backs up (files) does not appear, anyway I stopped sharing My Microsoft account with a friend on Xbox, I didn't want him seeing my photos and videos on his console.
I disabled this option and just went back to old fashioned Onedrive with camera upload.
Since 2011 I have had all my photos automatically backed up to the Camera Roll folder but with Samsung integration it puts photos in Samsung Gallery folder and no option to change that I can see.
I want to continue with my photos in the same Camera Roll folder and not have them go somewhere else and have to manually move them.
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Does it use an app folder or need full access to the entire OneDrive account?
OneDrive for Business
I have an Office 365 account which includes 1 TB of storage in OneDrive. When I try to enble "link Samsung Account with Microsoft account" within the Samsung cloud app, and enter my Microsoft username/email its says no such account exists. I had this problem using the OneDrive app on my Windows 10 desktop computer as well, but I solved that by deleting the OneDrive app that comes pre-installed on Windows 10 and installing the OneDrive for Business app. I could then sign in and backup to OneDrive on my desktop computer. Now on the phone, I have no problem signing into my account with the actual OneDrive app that came pre-installed on the Note 10+. That app lets me enter my Office 365 account username/email and on the OneDrive app, but not on this linking page for Samsung cloud. Any ideas on a workaround would be appreciated.
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All,
Today I received the firmware update for my Note10+ that contains the OneDrive integration. As I already have an Office365 subscription with 1Tb storage in OneDrive, I wanted to move there for backup. However, when I go through the Microsoft account linking part (enter Microsoft account, password, security code, password again), the app returns to the initial welcome screen with a message: server fault, please try again later.
Anyone else who has this error, or were you able to link the Samsung Cloud to Onedrive yet?
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I finally managed to get the connection working. It turned out that you can only connect using Microsoft's own Authenticator app. Using auth codes from third party apps give problems.
However, I ran into another issue. It turns out that the gallery sync to OneDrive does not support files > 1Gb. I had some video's I recorded, and they did not get synced. Samsung's response was: upload them manually to the OneDrive folder and they show up in the Gallery. But come on...
Hi to all. I am trying to connect Samsung cloud with one drive on my Samsung Galaxy S10e. The problem is that I have enabled two factor authentication on my Microsoft account and when I am doing all the steps the app keeps asking me for my password after the verification and it cannot pass that page and i cannot connect . If i disable the two factor authentication on my Microsoft account the app works well, but when I re-enable the two factor authentication after the login the app keeps saying that there is a problem and it cannot sync. Any ideas?
GiannisPrentzas said:
Hi to all. I am trying to connect Samsung cloud with one drive on my Samsung Galaxy S10e. The problem is that I have enabled two factor authentication on my Microsoft account and when I am doing all the steps the app keeps asking me for my password after the verification and it cannot pass that page and i cannot connect . If i disable the two factor authentication on my Microsoft account the app works well, but when I re-enable the two factor authentication after the login the app keeps saying that there is a problem and it cannot sync. Any ideas?
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I have the exact same issue.
I am using Note 10+
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maskr said:
I have the exact same issue.
I am using Note 10+
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Hi I found a solution that works!!!!
Download the Microsoft authentication app. Remove other 2FA app from your Microsoft account and keep only the Microsoft authentication app.
Do a reset on one drive app on your phone (delete data from this app) and the re connect one drive using Microsoft authentication app.
Then connect you phone to your computer and copy all of your photos from your computer to the dcim folder on your phone.
Then move or delete the photos and videos from the Samsung gallery folder on your computer. Don't let any other files inside there. Let the phone make the sync.
There is a problem though. Samsung cloud cannot sync files like *.mov. Then check which files aren't sync. You can convert the files with your phone later by editing them within the gallery app.
Sorry for my bad English.
Hope it helps

[Bounty $500] My note 10+ was hacked with stalkerware

My phone was infected with stalkerware, they had access to my files, could view what was on my screen, listen into my mic, view my cameras remotely, everything! It's incredibly creepy! From what I can tell they somehow loaded q hacked version of Google Chrome and or android web viewer. After getting suspicious I downloaded Kaspersky and ran a scan, I found 2 versions of Google Chrome on my phone one of them had the dual messenger app icon on it. The other one said it wasn't a current version from the apps store. I Uninstallerd and downloaded the current version through the app store. I tried to see if a packet sniffer would lead me to them but I think I was too late by that point. I also pulled the Chrome app qnd decompiler it. There was some weird things in there like ignore playstore version but nothing that I could find that would lead me to who was watching me. Is there anything I can still do that will lead me to who did this? I have a strong idea of who it was but need evidence so I can prosecute them. Any help would be appreciated. Im putting up a 500 dollar bounty if anyone can help me get some solid evidence.
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My phone was infected with stalkerware, they had access to my files, could view what was on my screen, listen into my mic, view my cameras remotely, everything! It's incredibly creepy! From what I can tell they somehow loaded q hacked version of Google Chrome and or android web viewer. After getting suspicious I downloaded Kaspersky and ran a scan, I found 2 versions of Google Chrome on my phone one of them had the dual messenger app icon on it. The other one said it wasn't a current version from the apps store. I Uninstallerd and downloaded the current version through the app store. I tried to see if a packet sniffer would lead me to them but I think I was too late by that point. I also pulled the Chrome app qnd decompiler it. There was some weird things in there like ignore playstore version but nothing that I could find that would lead me to who was watching me. Is there anything I can still do that will lead me to who did this? I have a strong idea of who it was but need evidence so I can prosecute them. Any help would be appreciated. Im putting up a 500 dollar bounty if anyone can help me get some solid evidence.
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Try logging into your Google account from a computer. Look at what devices have access to your account. I looked at mine a couple of months ago and saw a phone I never owned on AT&T. Funny thing is I have NEVER had AT&T. I've always and still have Verizon. I immediately removed, blocked and reported the device.
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Try logging into your Google account from a computer. Look at what devices have access to your account. I looked at mine a couple of months ago and saw a phone I never owned on AT&T. Funny thing is I have NEVER had AT&T. I've always and still have Verizon. I immediately removed, blocked and reported the device.
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That was the first thing I tried. Didn't find anything unfortunately. These a holes are good.
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That was the first thing I tried. Didn't find anything unfortunately. These a holes are good.
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Did you run a log of your IP addresses?
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Did you run a log of your IP addresses?
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Not until after the connection was severed. My first thought was to run a virus scan. The only thing I found was an application was installed feb 1st and the clean version of chrome stopped uploading on Feb 1st.
Why are there two of these? And how did they use dual messenger to install doubles? I've disabled all of them.
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Not until after the connection was severed. My first thought was to run a virus scan. The only thing I found was an application was installed feb 1st and the clean version of chrome stopped uploading on Feb 1st.
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Did you delete the corrupt Chrome already? The IP history may be in there...
you wish to find your IP address Internet history, you can easily do so directly from your Internet browser.
Step 1
Open your Internet browser, and click on "Tools" located in the horizontal menu bar at the top of the window.
Step 2
Click on "Internet Options"
Step 3
Click on "Settings" located beneath the "Browsing History" subheading.
Step 4
Click on the "View Files" button to find your IP address Internet history.
If you post the chrome apk that you dumped or anything else that you have that was related to the "infected" files, they might be helpful in looking for clues.
These are the apk files that I suspect could have been infected. Unfortunately I didn't pull them until after they were updated. But I believe there is still a change log kind of manifest if you decompile them.
On mobile? Im not seeing those options
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Did you delete the corrupt Chrome already? The IP history may be in there...
you wish to find your IP address Internet history, you can easily do so directly from your Internet browser.
Step 1
Open your Internet browser, and click on "Tools" located in the horizontal menu bar at the top of the window.
Step 2
Click on "Internet Options"
Step 3
Click on "Settings" located beneath the "Browsing History" subheading.
Step 4
Click on the "View Files" button to find your IP address Internet history.
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From what I can see, those apks unfortunately appear to be normal un-tampered files. The manifest I believe you are referring to is a component of the apk that dictates things like permissions and interfaces, but it does not perform any sort of logging or historical record sadly, as the entire apk is replaced when an app is updated or installed over an existing installation.
I am not sure how much cleaning you have done of your device since it happened, but aside from clues or records which might be available from various services you use (finding connected accounts that aren't yours, history of any account activities that weren't initiated by you, etc), your next best bet would probably be to dig through the files on the device in search of anything that shouldn't be there. Hopefully there is still some artifact of the infection which could potentially point towards its origin. I will follow this thread, happy to dig through files in my spare time.
Does anyone know if android keeps a log of installs or qnything in the root folder perhaps?
Isn't there a relation between duplicate app instances and secure folder?
OnnoJ said:
Isn't there a relation between duplicate app instances and secure folder?
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Yes but I've never set up secure folder. Never felt a need to.
First thing I do is a factory reset (and hope that gets it) and reset the Google password.
Keep that bloody device 100% isolated from your PC and data backup copies including the SD card*. Wipe the SD card in the device before the reload and again after the reload. Do NOT connect the card or phone to your PC before the new load is proven clean. Load data directly to SD card from the PC then to the 10+ just in case.
Try to piece together when and what did it but that is a secondary concern. Consider it a drill.
Better get while the gettings good... that level of being compromised means no time to lose ditching the OS. I most likely wipe the SD card too and use one of the clean data backups I keep for just such an event. Torch all data on the device.
If it gets into your backup data copies you're boned.
OSs are 100% expendable, critical data is not.
*you can scan it with everything on the planet and still miss trojans, tainted jpegs/pngs, etc if no definitions exist yet. Expect multiple hidden infections now and go full nuke.
Isolating the infection to that device is only priority. It's possible the infection(s) are already on one or more backups and/or your PC. That's why it's important to keep multiple time staggered backups on multiple electronically isolated hdds.
I keep a 3 tier backup and my PC is never internet connected.
Keep your head and limit the spread...
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Why are there two of these? And how did they use dual messenger to install doubles? I've disabled all of them.
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looks normal to me. Those are typical apps that run when dual account messenger service is used .

Remove / Disable Google and MI bloat apps

Hello everyone,
I'm used to the LineageOS on my previous phone and now I've upgraded recently to this phone but I feel my personal info too much available to Google and MI system apps and I don't want that, thats why I went to LineageOS on my previous phone but, like others custom firmwares, it have several bugs which limits the potential of the phone.
Even not using an google account I can feel my life is being spied because a few things happen:
- if someone calls me, a friend or whatever, and its not in my contacts list it asks me if its spam. For what? To send the info somewhere using the internet connection and warns others if its spam? If it reads my contacts for this it can read those for anything, like copy my whole contacts list which I'm not comfortable with and I'm not able to control. I'm afraid that later if i use the regular browser to access Gmail for instance, I'm afraid the OS is prepared to warn google that all the info that' I've shared so far belongs to that particular Google account and that phone IMEI is also used but that account. I'm crazy? Maybe, but all this is possible and I want to make it impossible.
- If i do not allow Google services from accessing my text messages APP (built-in app) i keep getting a warning from the system that something it will not go OK if I do not turn on that access from Google services. Why the hell should google services needs to access my texts? My first phone, 20 years ago, could send SMS without google, why the hell google needs to see my texts now?
The list continues but I'm not willing to loose the nice things this OS have too, but for me personal info is too valuable and I dont want to give away any information from my contacts list, SMS texts, the places I visit, my tastes and so on, all this is my personal life and no one needs to know about it, not even just for statistics. Some people on my contacts list doesn't use Android and dont want the personal phone number stored somewhere and connected to me somehow, not that Im a criminal or something like but all this combined together its like a personal "Facebook" for Google and MI to use, they know who are the persons who I connect with, who are near me at a certain period of the day, where I usually do shopping, well, all my life is being stored somewhere, and I want to end this.
Is there a way to keep the current OS and block every outgoing info coming from the phone? I've made some research and i come to this so far
- AFwall can be a solution, but how good it is?
- Removing google services is not an option using ADB, the OS will not work
- Disable google services is not working. The system keeps turning it on automatically
Please give me your feedbacks with your experiences about this security issue, I think several people feels the same way, and how did you managed a work around to this keeping the original OS.
PS: For now I didnt unlock the bootloader, but I will if the solution goes that way.
Thank you everyone
Tomalamix
Living in the age of Google, one cannot use phone & Internet without your info being collected for ad purposes or whatsoever.
Ad purposes i can live with that,. what I cant live with is my personal data being stored by a 3rd party company besides my cell operator
Ive been watching the Anti-Gapps group but it seems discontinued i guess, i think this is a task fitted for them

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