[Q]2nd-Gen Nexus 7 Question.. - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Hello Ladies & Gentlemen,
Question: I'm strongly leaning towards picking up this 2nd-Gen Nexus 7 next week.. ( I have never owned the 1st-Gen ) and I know the 2nd-Gen is shipping with Android 4.3.. Since this is still Asus with upgraded internals, Will these 4.2.2 ROMS run on the 2nd-Gen? I know it's only a matter of time before 4.3 is ripped apart and reborn as Custom ROMS but I was curious if anyone thinks 4.2.2 would boot..
Thanks for any answers anyone can provide.. :good:

If these said ROMs were ported then maybe. Although I doubt it because 4.3 is better in pretty much every way so what's the point. 4.2.2 software made for the Tegra Nexus 7 won't boot on the newer architecture in the 2nd gen model (Snapdragon S4 CPU).
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RaiderWill said:
I was curious if anyone thinks 4.2.2 would boot..
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I think not. Wait for custom roms for the 7² to appear, which they will pretty soon I guess.
But you should definitely go for the new N7, it looks so much sweeter than the 1st gen...

direct ROM flashes Wont work, but if someone ported it over, I dont see why not. but that would probably take just as much time as it would to merge the features to 4.3 so no one will do it.

turdbogls said:
direct ROM flashes Wont work, but if someone ported it over, I dont see why not. but that would probably take just as much time as it would to merge the features to 4.3 so no one will do it.
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Thanks Everyone,
I can wait for the ROMS to arrive.. I just pulled the trigger on a 16 Gb from Walmart today.. It has enough out of the box to keep me going for now..

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Its true stock Android on S4!!!

yes just heard it on Google I /O s4 pure android coming to att and tmobile but Google selling it amazing!!!!!
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
zoddex said:
I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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xxjrsmith3xx said:
yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
Definitely wanting to sale my note 2 for that.
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RMXO said:
I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
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That's what I believe it is too.
Why would anyone switch their gs4s to that? Can't aosp just be cooked up from that version? It'll deff be much more bug free then aosp at this point
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
Im just gonna wait to see if there is a rom coming out to install
gdmlaz said:
or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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gdmlaz said:
or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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I wonder now that there is a stock android build coming will cm for s4 be better since they will have the code specifically for this phone?
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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You shouldn't feel bad about your purchase. I'm quite happy with mine so far (except the overheating issue lately).
I don't have the AOSP version yet, so I can't really speak of the features that are/aren't going to be there.
I'm guessing if they make it true stock Android, there will be no Samsung bloat at all.
So it's basically a much more powerful version than any Nexus phone will ever be,
and as such the price is quite high. Personally, I would not consider it at that price.
I'm happy with my T-Mo, and with a few customization here or there, I can always get stock.
This is really geared toward the hard-core Android fans/developers. You can't doubt the S4 has the best internal hardware
of any phone out there, and there lies possibilities.
I also heard the news from google I/O. Does this mean that this version of the S4 will be as open as a nexus and easy for developers to make their custom ROMs for it?
KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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Sony basically did the same thing with the ZR, took complaints and made a new phone out of it
Just purchased a 600$ Ip57 phone? Well there's IP58 now! (Waterproof not resistant)
It's good to have options, but honestly most people that buy pure vanilla Android are experienced users. Most will have no clue rather it's Vanilla or not.
So there in lies the questions. Why put this out after and most that come here that have an s4 already hacked it to death no? So I don't see the point of the users here who want to upgrade to this when you just put a vanilla type ROM on it.
Fancy pants Note ||
elflip88 said:
Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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Not true. my nexus 4 gets bugs every once in a while.
If the hardware is identical to the tmoble version then you should just be able to flash the image through Odin right? Seems kind of like the galaxy nexus where you flash takju from yakju or whatever and boom, you are getting the Google play version of updates, wallet functionality etc. If anything it says Samsung has opened their flagship to aosp right?
Even if you think $650 is too much this means that potentially, Samsung will get touch wiz updates to new versions faster as there will be nexus level compatibility with each new android update. I'm not saying immediate but they will have an inside track based on the fact that Google will actively update their device through AOSP for at least 2 years.
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CM will always have bugs due to the way they change the Android coding. Where it is stable and great work people should never look for a bug free OS
Wayne Tech Nexus

jelly bean 4.3???

I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/
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I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/
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u heard it right they have rolled out Jb Android 4.3 (JWR66V) for nexus 4 and other for nexus 7,10 etc
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
so as far samsung is concerned it will take atleast 3 months from now if we are lucky or maybe even end of this year but yes the good news is that samsung has confirmed the 4.3 update for note2 but have not commented anything on the release date yet
There are already many many threads for same subject and I think they will be adding up
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There is an update and other devices thread in the stickies.
Instead of making a dozen threads just post in that thread.
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All we know is Q4 2013
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Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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How come nexus devices get updates 1st?
Sandata said:
How come nexus devices get updates 1st?
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Because Nexus devices are devices that are made by Google's standards and android is developed for this devices by Google themselves. Then with the android source code (AOSP) manufacturers such as Samsung, HTC, Sony etc etc. are free to make their own rom for it, this is why it will always follow later, especially 'cause they have to make sure it is completely bugfree. Next to the big manufacturers we have ofcourse developers like CyanogenMod team and other good developers (i.e. from XDA!) who provide us from great roms too, and some even better than the stock samsung roms.
salmonsushi said:
Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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Will people stop talking about the s4 sales. They just posted they made over 6.6 billion which is up from last year.
So they didn't sell as many as they wanted. Well the s3 is still an awesome phone so why would everyone just to an s4
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My cat has more intelligence than the people who keep starting these threads. How they scrape up the IQ to actually purchase a mobile phone in the first place amazes me.
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol.now I got to know the reason behind delay in update from samsung
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Frunobulax said:
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol. Just expect a tweet from samsung of 4.3 cery soon" coming shortly.
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i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.
UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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no, I want official, please give official 4.3 for note2, please, I want it please
(hope this will stop a new thread, lets pray)
via Note 2
UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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Make a topic mate
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"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.
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No, TW compared to CM actually is crap. CM S Pen Add-on, Note Buddy and Papyrus and S Pen features (incl. Pulling in or out detection) work perfectly.
definitely by the time samsung releases official 4.3 there will be 4 to 5 more threads on the same topic for sure
By the time Sammy is almost ready to release 4.3, Key Lime Pie 5.0 will be out and they will then decide to skip 4.3 for Note II and go directly to 5.0.
I am having issues building cm.
I just know how to initiate a build , I don't know how to fix because I don't know any programming language.
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Happy with the development so far?

Hey guys
I have this amazing tablet since a couple of week now..
I think the development has been kind of slow for a "nexus" device
what do you guys think?
Hard to get a lot of development going without a stable platform.
It's been through 3 updates since being shipped.
Remember, the first generation had a month or so head start, as there were a few hundred in the wild and the factory images released 30 or so days in advance of the retail launch.
There's stuff popping up... Just takes a bit of time...
Yeah I guess .. sooner or later roms like AOKP should pop up ..plus the European release just happened
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Yeah it's not officially launched in Sweden yet, I had to import which is no problem anyway.
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Yep so we might start seeing better development in coming weeks
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Maybe it's not related with a stable platform
the nexus 7 has lots of hardware/software problems (wich have not been solved yet) maybe that's why.
and please dont ask for development, they wont hurry to make a kernel/rom just bec you make this thread
sorry if i look rude :angel: but that's my opinion.
when i get mi nexus 7 2013 in september i wont start making a rom since first hours, i will first try it, enjoy it and when i get bored of the jelly bean 4.3 then i will make a rom.
maybe i am not the only one who thinks like this and that's why there aren't lots of projects so far.
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and please, you have 4.3 android jelly bean, you want someone to make a port from a higher device? from a higher android version? wich one?
the devices who always have lots of development are for example an older device who gets a port from a higher one. or a good device wich has not many features.
anyway, you may be waiting for AOKP,CM,PA,etc.. just wait the good developers will release them soon.
Learn to do it yourself. Or shut up about it?
There are official CyanogenMod nightlies on CyanogenMods webpage if you want to try something new.
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tweaked said:
Learn to do it yourself. Or shut up about it?
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This.
tweaked said:
Learn to do it yourself. Or shut up about it?
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Well, I was trying to think how do I say this in a nice way.... but no need to now.
Good suggestion..
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Learn to do it yourself. Or shut up about it?
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There's no need to be rude. It wasn't a complaint, it was an observation and I personally found some of the responses quite interesting.

Is 4.3 on the G pad?

Sorry if this an obvious question, but I'd really like to know if I'd have to root/unlock it to flash some more recent Android version.
Speaking of which, how difficult is it to flash/unroot?
At least put an effort into researching.
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No there are no roms for this tablet at this time.
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Lmao post with no answer.. put some effort its just 2-3 keys "no" then "yes" WOOT!
No man not yet. They do have plans to.
It's true that the answer is a simple no. But I had to learn the hard way when I first jumped into this site a few years ago that people do not like to be asked questions that are easy to answer. You don't even have to look on this website. Simply look at the spec sheet on LG's website and you will see that it comes with 4.2 .2. There is already a rootkit out for the device but no roms at this time. I honestly don't think you need a newer version at this time. 4.2 .2 jelly bean does everything you need in my opinion. Otherwise get a Nexus device. I have a Nexus 4 running Kit Kat Paranoid Android and Franco kernel and I couldn't be happier. But when it comes to my tablet I just wanted for basic consumption and a stock Android is perfectly fine. Just my opinion.
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Bipedial said:
Sorry if this an obvious question, but I'd really like to know if I'd have to root/unlock it to flash some more recent Android version.
Speaking of which, how difficult is it to flash/unroot?
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What is it that you are going to gain from updating to 4.3? The bigger number? There is a lot more that can be improved in the ROM than going to 4.3
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would like Android 4.3 or later to enable opengl es 3.0 support for games. Hopefully lg comes out with an update soon.
i would like to see cyanogen mod 11 or pac rom much more than official updates of LG
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would like Android 4.3 or later to enable opengl es 3.0 support for games. Hopefully lg comes out with an update soon.
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Check development section CM11 based rom posted
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i would like to see cyanogen mod 11 or pac rom much more than official updates of LG
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note 10.1 2014 4.4.2 update??

Sorry but when is the update coming? not a single update since november? i can understand the diffuculty of pushing it through carriers but even for the WIFI p600, no update has arrived. I wonder if it will even arrive before the summer.
No one knows. We will have to wait till Samsung rolls out a testfirmware or a leak.
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Just don't ask for ETA.T_T. Samsuck.
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Its so frustrating because all the new tablets have 4.4.2 and they have identical specs asides from screen size and a multitasking button. I have been a long time apple user and "converted" to android about 9 months ago. I had an iphone then got the htc one then got the Note 3. I traded my ipad for the note 2014. I love android but I feel like the notion I am getting from android manufacturers is if you want the latest upgrade youre going to have to buy the newest device. Sorry for the rant.
With Samsung you'll need some patience.
Actually they are rolling this update out to a fair amount of their products, we are in line.....
Itchiee said:
With Samsung you'll need some patience.
Actually they are rolling this update out to a fair amount of their products, we are in line.....
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Probably at the end of the line.
Not too big a deal imo, but the performance increase in KitKat would be sweet to have.
Like Khairy said the Galaxy Tab Pro. 10.1 is identical except for the 1 gig of ram and the S-pen. It can't be that difficult to get our Kitkat update out.
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Samsung is slow with updates. I just got 4.4.2 on my S4 if you want OS updates faster you have to get a Nexus device.
It's just the way it is I can't wait for KitKat on my Note 10.1 I like it on the S4.
I only got jelly bean on my Note 2 the other day...so don't hold your breath
At the very least fix the lag on a lot of the animations, I feel like samsung is trying to get me to buy a pro series tablet. I guess 600 isn't pro enough.
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I just hope it doesn't mess with my SD card access, otherwise I shall wait.
My note is just as I like it at the moment.
Seriously why do people keep asking when it's coming? That's not gonna change anything and we know just as much as you. Google it or something. Be patient people! You'll get it when you get it!
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KitKat for P600 is out
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It was just released
Check in the General area for the link to the download. As for myself, I'm waiting for a dev to release a custom ROM for my P500.:fingers-crossed:
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Check in the General area for the link to the download. As for myself, I'm waiting for a dev to release a custom ROM for my P500.:fingers-crossed:
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P500 sounds like a nice tab. Is it new
22sl22 said:
P500 sounds like a nice tab. Is it new
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Whoops, typo. P600, I mean. XD

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