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I'm really looking forward to KITKAT..
Nobody knows when or even if KitKat will be released for this tablet. Samsung does not provide timelines, the only way we know is through leaks. There haven't been any to my knowledge.
I doubt we will get it since we didn't get 4.3. Last time I buy a Samsung tablet
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Samsung already forgot this machine.
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I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. You have a perfectly functional tablet that doesn't have any outwardly obvious bugs or other problems. I bet you use it with no problems. Sure, it's nice to have the latest update, but it's not like you have significantly outdated software that limits your usage of the tablet. And should 4.4 land on this tab (for the record, I think it will), you guys will be happy for all of about 5 minutes and move on with your day. And of course as soon as a new minor update drops, the *****fest will begin again.
I am running custom build 4.4.2 on my Galaxy S4. Outside of some UI tweaks and ART, it brings nothing significant to the table.
Thats the attitude HTC had just before they started losing tons of money
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FrozenRiff said:
Thats the attitude HTC had just before they started losing tons of money
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There are many reasons why HTC is failing, but if this is even a reason, it's an insignificant one. Samsung has never been truly up to date on updates, yet they are second only to Apple in the amount of high-end devices sold. Most people, myself included don't really care whether we are on the latest version. We just care that our devices perform well and do what we need them to do. I only complain if an update screws something up.
And lets be honest here: you are running the latest version of all of the Google Apps. It's not like you are stuck on Gingerbread and being on Jelly Bean does not limit you in any way. KitKat will not boost your battery life, will likely not make your device faster, and does not add any significant features that would make a difference in your usage of the device. So what's the real issue? Because it's not that you are unhappy with your tablet.
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I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. You have a perfectly functional tablet that doesn't have any outwardly obvious bugs or other problems. I bet you use it with no problems. Sure, it's nice to have the latest update, but it's not like you have significantly outdated software that limits your usage of the tablet. And should 4.4 land on this tab (for the record, I think it will), you guys will be happy for all of about 5 minutes and move on with your day. And of course as soon as a new minor update drops, the *****fest will begin again.
I am running custom build 4.4.2 on my Galaxy S4. Outside of some UI tweaks and ART, it brings nothing significant to the table.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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I fully understand your concern. I have the Wifi-only tab and am on 4.2. I did not experience your issues with 4.1 but I do know that others have. The thing is, problems have to get fixed, and it's a shame that you are still dealing with them. I don't know if it's AT&T or Samsung in your case that's at fault though. My point was more to the effect that I don't care for software updates just for the sake of having a slight bump in version number.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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Agreed. I am on the At&t Note 8.0 variant also and I too have freezes and lag. With that being said I know that At&t and Samsung don't have the best business relationship dye At&t loyalty to Apple. So an update may or may not come. If it does let's hope that At&t don't block or rip it up like they do with all Samsung updates
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I got wifi only and I get freezes. The way to unfreeze is to turn the orientation of the note to landscape from horizontal and vice versa. I really wish for an update to fix that. And Yes htc has tons of problems but I believe the slow ass updates were the biggest driver of their customers (at least those who root their devices) to Samsung. Those people are also quite influential with their peers on recommendations
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Just acquired a GS7A (G891A) yesterday and I've been playing around with it for a bit and so far so good. I noted that the firmware I've got on this device (installed by the previous owner since I didn't do it in my short time of owning this GS7A) is mentioned here at AT&T's support site:
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1118410
Just wondering if anyone else is currently on this firmware and if they have any information about it in terms of performance compared to older versions of the firmware, battery life changes, anything else. It says it's just a small update on top of the previous one (PG7) and it's only about 61MB in size - it specifically says it was Android security updates and it was released on August 26th so again I'm just curious if anyone has anything positive or negative to comment on it.
I'm pretty sure I can't roll back to previous firmware because a) they simply don't seem to exist anywhere for download and potential flashing and b) while I haven't used a Samsung device in some time (been happy with various LG devices the past 18 months or so) I'm pretty sure they have some mechanism in place to prevent rollbacks to earlier firmware (which totally sucks but that's how companies do crap nowadays).
Anyway, just curious, if anyone cares to drop a comment that's fine, if not then this will be another single post thread like so many others.
Great device so far, I didn't realize at first it had the heartbeat/SpO2 reader under the LED flash, just figured it was some sensor for photographic work. My Wife is currently having some issues with her lungs/pulmonary system so when I asked her for a finger earlier she didn't understand why but as soon as she put it on the sensor and saw the red glow of the infrared LED she knew exactly what I was doing: checking her blood oxygen level (she's actually using oxygen at home for the time being). Yes I know infrared isn't in the visible spectrum but it glows red just the same so people know it's active - no pun intended - just like it does in the hospitals/care facilities with their sensors they tape to a fingertip.
Fast, got a 91K score on Antutu earlier which ain't bad considering it's just a quad core - I still have a Flex 2 but that Snapdragon 810 will overheat and throttle on that benchmark; the best I've ever managed was about 84K using all 8 cores so again, the Snapdragon 820 with just the 4 cores is pretty damned efficient most definitely.
Have fun, always...
I had my phone for only a week so it's hard to tell, because I upgraded to PH1 the next day. I didn't notice any difference in terms of performance.
By the way, just today I got a new update (G891AUCS2API2, Sept. 1st) that is still not listed in the AT&T website.
I just saw someone note that update from yesterday and I was asking them about the firmware version, so it's PI2. Curious to know what that's all about and yes I did some checking and haven't found any advisory posting yet. There was one for the Aug security patches released on Aug 25th so, considering the timing this is more than likely an update to the Sept security patches.
So it's the Sept 1 security patches, I take it, about the time they should have been released. I'm not sure I can even get an OTA at this point as I don't use AT&T and I don't even have cellular service at the moment with the Active, never had much luck getting the OTAs over Wi-Fi. Guess I'll wait a few days and then see what happens (I have the AT&T update package disabled).
I just bought my unlocked s7a to india. I am not getting any update. The update is shown of May 2016.
Any way to update?
No idea on manual updates, I've never found them anywhere I've looked. As stated in that post above, the September security patches are available but because I'm not an AT&T user I can't get it to grab the update and install it so, I guess I'll be stuck with the August update from now on.
If anybody gets the September update (PI2) and can save the update.zip file and share it that would be pretty awesome but, alas, the GS7A just isn't very popular unfortunately - most folks buy the S7 or S7 Edge even though I personally think the GS7A is a better device overall.
Can't stand pretty shiny slippery glossy crap anyway.
For anyone wishing to update from G891AUCS1APH1 to U2APK2
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Use stock recovery and adb sideload this to uodate to PI2 (46.5 MB)
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/BGy7/gKs4xzhRE/SS-G891AUCS1APH1-to-S2API2.zip
be patient, it takes time.
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After reboot, againt use stock recovery to update PI2 to PK2 (410 MB)
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/BGy7/gKs4xzhRE/SS-G891AUCS2API2-to-U2APK2.zip
Now you could follow this thread to root your device successfully reported by most on PK2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-active/help/samsung-galaxy-s7-active-root-t3473649
Out of nowhere, I suddenly get this:
https://samsung-firmware.org/download/GALAXY Tab PRO/8be3/BTU/T900XXSBPL3/T900OXABOH4/
The Changes text is useless, literally just says "N" - but sure as hell isn't Nougat as it was only 80Mb. Just found it very odd since my 12.2 Pro is so old, I wasn't expecting any updates. And it's too old for the monthly security patch thing on newer devices.
Anyone know what it is about?
The 12.2" Pro isn't exactly like its younger siblings the 10.2, and 8.4. which only have 2Gbs of RAM to your 12's 3Gbs. As such you have managed to enjoy Lollipop, where as the rest of us have been left on KitKat. So it wouldn't surprise me that your getting updates. Besides Lollipop may be old, but it is still able to use the Security Updates, from Google. Assuming Samsung were still assed to pass those along.
Ah, I had no idea that the smaller ones didn't get lollipop. Let me assure you that updates to my tablet dried up a very long time ago!! That's why I was so surprised to receive this one out of the blue.
Wish they'd release another 12 inch tab
Yeah thing is IIRC.. Lollipop is the minimum level required to receive Google's monthly Security Fixes. Which is probably what was updated.
You could simply verify this by checking the Device Settings > About Device. Then scroll down till you spot it.
It might not be Marshmallow, but some of those Updates actually do fix things that needed fixing at the time. e.g Stage fright, or the Qualcomm Quadrooter Bugs.
1. Title says it. How are updates for this phone? Phone was released in Q4 2018. How many updates did you receive so far?
2. What is The current security patch?
3. Are there any noticeable bugs? Has the auto-brightness bug been fixed?
4. Which variant do you have? Global or Chinese?
5. Does Google Pay work?
1 - Updates are ok, usually they release an update/month i could say...
2 - I'm on security patch v. 195 and i won't update to 198 for now... battery issues has been reported regarding the 198 Update...
3 - I can tell you one of the bugs i notice... the square virtual button ( from all 3 on-screen buttons ) dissapear in some apps and i have to get back to Home Screen to have it again on-screen... Auto Brightness keep activating after every restart of the phone...
4 - I have 2 Mate 20 X Units, both of them AL-00, i choose AL-00 since several people have been saying they are much more stable compared to International Version...
5 - I don't use any of the Google Services, except PlayStore and Youtube... So for me, there is no point in buying International Version of any phone, since i don't use G Voice, G Pay, G Mail, Google Search, G Assistant etc...
Cheers
daubh said:
1. Title says it. How are updates for this phone? Phone was released in Q4 2018. How many updates did you receive so far?
2. What is The current security patch?
3. Are there any noticeable bugs? Has the auto-brightness bug been fixed?
4. Which variant do you have? Global or Chinese?
5. Does Google Pay work?
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I have the L29. Updates for the global versions are still abysmal but better than they used to be. Every new EMUI release fixes a few bugs but brings a few more. It almost seems like the head EMUI team are a bunch of thirteen year olds with not a lot of common sense. A few bugs that I see:
-Notifications on the Always on Display are pretty much non existent (in 2019 that's just not acceptable)
-Set the DPI (Minimum Width) setting in developer options and it resets after every reboot (stupid)
-After a reboot auto brightness turns itself back on. This should be a simple fix right?
-The whole interface needs an update as it looks like the interface from Android Honeycomb, the pulldown toggles and interface are awful in 2019. Why not just have a stock like interface with the rounded toggles?
-After an update is approved it sometimes takes weeks to get it
-Notifications that you can normally turn off in settings for some reason on EMUI they don't work or the options were just removed
The actual hardware is second to none but the phone really needs an AOSP custom ROM or Lineage. Imagine if we could run something like Pure Nexus on the 20 X? I think then it would be the perfect phone but EMUI definitely holds it back. For me the hardware is so good that I can kind of live with these annoying bugs but if they aren't fixed in the next EMUI release then this will be probably be my last Huawei device. Then I still have to hope that another manufacturer has the balls to release a device with a large screen like the 20 X.
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another manufacturer has the balls to release a device with a large screen like the 20 X.
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Mate 20 X holds a monopoly in terms of 7-inch screen flagship.
Wish there was at least an Android One device with this screen size. Or from a manufacturer who doesn't block custom ROMs.
Only next large phone to look forward to is the Mi Max 4 but that's a mid-range with sub-par screen...
A 7-inch Pixel would be bomb.
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Mate 20 X holds a monopoly in terms of 7-inch screen flagship.
Wish there was at least an Android One device with this screen size. Or from a manufacturer who doesn't block custom ROMs.
Only next large phone to look forward to is the Mi Max 4 but that's a mid-range with sub-par screen...
A 7-inch Pixel would be bomb.
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A 7 inch OnePlus device would be great too.
The international version lacks updates tbh, I'm stuck on 184 still
For me those small bugs doesn't matter.
I love this phone and i dont care small updates, works great for me really.
But still strange they cant fix some minor fail... But like it a lot... Still
1- 1 update since December (.184)
2- 1 January 2019
3- I get a 'ghost' vibration/notification from time to time, still haven't figured out what causes it (app or OS). No big deal.
4- European (C432)
5- Yes
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A 7 inch OnePlus device would be great too.
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With the bezels disappearing I honestly think the world is ready for a 7.3''-7.5'' screened phone.
They should have 2 versions, a 7'' MAX and a 7.5" MAX+.
This phone is the best I ever saw and had, but lack of updates for C636 is annoying
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This phone is the best I ever saw and had, but lack of updates for C636 is annoying
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What is the C636?
Do they update it by according where you live or which version of phone you have? Like UK, Global, CH, HK and so on.
C636 is the international version, they update AL00 which is Chinese version and C636, regardless of your area.
I have the C432 (UK version, unlocked) running 9.0.0.172 (December 2018 Security Patches) and I've received no updates for the phone at all.
Checking for OTA updates and via HiSuite - both report back that the software is up to date.
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I have the C432 (UK version, unlocked) running 9.0.0.172 (December 2018 Security Patches) and I've received no updates for the phone at all.
Checking for OTA updates and via HiSuite - both report back that the software is up to date.
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Same for me in the UK too. Bought an EVR-L29 from Currys yesterday and was disappointed to find out that it didn't come with the M-Pen and flip case like a lot of other retailers in the UK do, and then it seems to be stuck on release .172 when I have been reading about .195 upgrades being available for quite some time.
I keep checking the software update and HiSuite in the hope that it will eventually trigger an update, but I am disappointed considering it was not a network branded phone.
Fingers crossed for an update soon.
AJP
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Same for me in the UK too. Bought an EVR-L29 from Currys yesterday and was disappointed to find out that it didn't come with the M-Pen and flip case like a lot of other retailers in the UK do, and then it seems to be stuck on release .172 when I have been reading about .195 upgrades being available for quite some time.
I keep checking the software update and HiSuite in the hope that it will eventually trigger an update, but I am disappointed considering it was not a network branded phone.
Fingers crossed for an update soon.
AJP
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I have ordered the phone from Clove UK so I assume I should also expect no updates. VERY disappointed to hear that and exactly the thing i was afraid about since my Mate 9 received only ONE update in 2 years (was Asia version i think as it is 636)
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I have ordered the phone from Clove UK so I assume I should also expect no updates. VERY disappointed to hear that and exactly the thing i was afraid about since my Mate 9 received only ONE update in 2 years (was Asia version i think as it is 636)
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I bought mine from Hong-Kong but my region is set to UK and i receive regular updates
EVR L29 here. The only update I had was when I first booted up the phone when I bought it over 2 months ago, but had no updates since. I'm on 172. Huawei needs to up their game, the software is so buggy compared to the Samsung's I had previously.
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EVR L29 here. The only update I had was when I first booted up the phone when I bought it over 2 months ago, but had no updates since. I'm on 172. Huawei needs to up their game, the software is so buggy compared to the Samsung's I had previously.
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L29 here. Just downloaded and installed March security update along with fixes and such. Mate 20x feels more smoother
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I have two EVR L29 c636 phones. Both updated to 187 a few weeks ago and then one updated to 192 last week. Why only one got the most recent update is beyond me. When I plug them into my desktop computer HiSuite says they are both running the most recent firmware.
Just got the 450ish MB update to March. 1, 2020 from the last update that was November 2019. So far so good. Update went smoothly, don't see any added features yet. Performance seems same.
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Just got the 450ish MB update to March. 1, 2020 from the last update that was November 2019. So far so good. Update went smoothly, don't see any added features yet. Performance seems same.
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Got mine too. The only issue I have is that Samsung Keyboard app occasionally force closes several times in a row when using the keyboard case, even though I'm either using gboard or the keyboard case. Not a huge issue since it goes away after 10 times and doesn't come back for a while. But just thought I should share!
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Got mine too. The only issue I have is that Samsung Keyboard app occasionally force closes several times in a row when using the keyboard case, even though I'm either using gboard or the keyboard case. Not a huge issue since it goes away after 10 times and doesn't come back for a while. But just thought I should share!
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Got mine too, but as the OP, no issues, and runs very smoothly - no force closings.
Got it too. Haven't used it since it update so cannot report any findings.
Surprised 10 hasn't done out yet
I have upgrade from the first day through Odin / t830
no problem until now, no issues...my device run very well
the only serious change in "changelist 18001444" is the Security patch date 1/3/2020
MAYBE in late july, become the upgrade to android 10(?) ....Will see.... ?
Looks like security patch only - which is nice to have - the old Samsung never bothered. Even if only once in 6 months, I hope they keep them coming for a while.
This is a Samsung tablet, they will never upgrade us to 10. We are expected to get a Tab 6.