Does the Nexus 7 really has a Snapdragon 600? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Does the Nexus 7 really has a Snapdragon 600?

pham818 said:
Does the Nexus 7 really has a Snapdragon 600?
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By default, yes. However I used TricksterMod to upgrade it to a Snapdragon 800. The device is absolutely flying now :good:

You can't "upgrate" S600 to and S800 , the S800 is a newer cheap - uses a newer Krait 400 cores which are more optimized and power efficient and on top of that it has a newer more powerful gpu - adreno 330 vs 320 on the S600/S4 Pro , also the S800 has a newer DSP embedded so it can decode 4K content.
clock to clock the S800 would be faster, and as the S600 wasn't design to run at 2.26GHz (highest bin of the S600 is 1.9GHz on the S4 , then the 1.7GHz on the HTC One, and finaly there is the Nexus 7 Which uses underclocked S600 with different branding) the S800 would be more power efficient .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_600

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pfeffernuss said:
by default, yes. However i used trickstermod to upgrade it to a snapdragon 800. The device is absolutely flying now :good:
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Can you help me upgrade mine!?

I can't seem to understand the purpose of overclocking the flo. It's fast and smooth any way that you put it. Not to mention the potential damage that you can do to your precious tablets (especially from the extreme heat of the overclocked cpu & gpu combo).
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iamezio said:
You can't "upgrate" S600 to and S800
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_600
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aarsyl said:
I can't seem to understand the purpose of overclocking the flo. It's fast and smooth any way that you put it. Not to mention the potential damage that you can do to your precious tablets (especially from the extreme heat of the overclocked cpu & gpu combo).
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My idea exactly. Hence I underclocked the CPU and GPU and don't notice any performance decrease.

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Will there be overclocking gpu support soon?

I was wondering if it will be possible to overclock the gpu , because my cpu of my htc one v seems to be insanely good , even ran the max 2ghz for few hours , then restarted when i moved the app the storage card, so could be just sd card bug or something , but i switched it back to 1.8ghz(245mhz idle) , anyway my quadrant score is quite low because of the gpu , because i hit 4,1k cpu score at 2ghz , and have seen other phones being able to overclock the gpu.
Hope to see the gpu overclock able soon, will make this phone even better
hereticangel said:
I was wondering if it will be possible to overclock the gpu , because my cpu of my htc one v seems to be insanely good , even ran the max 2ghz for few hours , then restarted when i moved the app the storage card, so could be just sd card bug or something , but i switched it back to 1.8ghz(245mhz idle) , anyway my quadrant score is quite low because of the gpu , because i hit 4,1k cpu score at 2ghz , and have seen other phones being able to overclock the gpu.
Hope to see the gpu overclock able soon, will make this phone even better
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My can withstand the 2ghz constantly without overheat, but that is the cpu. The gpu is a different story.
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
My can withstand the 2ghz constantly without overheat, but that is the cpu. The gpu is a different story.
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hmm just check again my memory and Io score seems to be a problem , score just over 1.9k, seems to low
hereticangel said:
hmm just check again my memory and Io score seems to be a problem , score just over 1.9k, seems to low
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This is a known issue with the Titanium kernel (KISS has e.g. the same values here as stock)
you can read about it in the kernel thread for this kernel
But I doubt that those benchmarks values make a noticable difference in daily usage
So if you need OC more then 1.5GHz just stay with Titanium.
If you think that I/O values will make your device slower use KISS kernel
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max
PS: Regarding the original question
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710850
There you can read all about OCing the GPU
Common point at the end. They didnt found a way to do it
thanx for the reply, was just wondering about score , phone it selfs seems very fast and have no problems with it
ok so the gpu scales with cpu overclock then , must say ashalpt 6 plays very nicely
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424345
that guy did overclock hes gpu with 220 chip , maybe new ones can be overclocked only.
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hereticangel said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424345
that guy did overclock hes gpu with 220 chip , maybe new ones can be overclocked only.
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Sensation has a Snapdragon S3 One V has S2
regards max
i am pretty sure i saw an app called "Dual" something on the LG P990 threads and it had the option to overclock the gpu*
*if the kernel supports it
sorry for digging up old thread, but... are there now any chances for OCing GPU?
parkourz said:
sorry for digging up old thread, but... are there now any chances for OCing GPU?
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no we're only adreno 205. Only adreno 220/225 supports OC.
MameTozhio said:
no we're only adreno 205. Only adreno 220/225 supports OC.
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It's stupid... phones with Adreno 220/225 are almost shining and new, so where's need to OC them?
parkourz said:
It's stupid... phones with Adreno 220/225 are almost shining and new, so where's need to OC them?
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How is the qualcomm sanpdragon s3 new
The new ones are Adreno 420, 330, 320, 305 etc.
on Snapdragon 400, 800, 600, s4 pro, other ones I forgot (805 for adreno 420?)
MameTozhio said:
How is the qualcomm sanpdragon s3 new
The new ones are Adreno 420, 330, 320, 305 etc.
on Snapdragon 400, 800, 600, s4 pro, other ones I forgot (805 for adreno 420?)
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That's why I wrote "almost" so we have to wait for AdrenoBooster for ICS/JB
Good news for me on my One S I will OC my GPU
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Overclock Kernel + Loop Device

Hey,
Can anyone make a kernel that lets you overclock to 1.9ghz and gets you loop devices. If needed, use 1.8 for stable.
Thx.
Also, THIS BETTER WORK WITH THE ATT ONE COMMING OUT SOON!
awesomehacker said:
Hey,
Can anyone make a kernel that lets you overclock to 1.9ghz and gets you loop devices. If needed, use 1.8 for stable.
Thx.
Also, THIS BETTER WORK WITH THE ATT ONE COMMING OUT SOON!
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Most Exynos 4412 cpu`s are only stable up to 1704Mhz, most crash at 1800 Mhz mate. It is allready blazing fast at 1600 Mhz :silly:
gee2012 said:
Most Exynos 4412 cpu`s are only stable up to 1704Mhz, most crash at 1800 Mhz mate. It is allready blazing fast at 1600 Mhz :silly:
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Maybe with Note 2 is possible, im sure if samsung release a 1.6 ghz exynos 4412 its for they increase the margin of clocks a few more than S3 in the chip manufacturing process
xiskillo said:
Maybe with Note 2 is possible, im sure if samsung release a 1.6 ghz exynos 4412 its for they increase the margin of clocks a few more than S3 in the chip manufacturing process
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It is exactly the same cpu as the S3 has afaik, and most S3 cpu`s crash at 1800 Mhz. The stock speed is fast enough for me as i overclocked the S3 to 1600 Mhz and it was allready fast imo. But we`ll see, still have to get my GN2 tuesday
Try the Tegrak Overclock module from the Play Store. Surely it's compatible with the Note 2. Works well with my GS3.
Supposedly it's a revision 2 chip in the N2.
Running all day long with 1.8 @ 1.275 and it's ROCK SOLID, and no extra heat for now!
Also running with nice undervolt and all freqs are stable. The device was already blazing fast, and I wasn't going to bother, but it was the easiest OC transition ever in my OC life, with first AndreiLux kernel for N2 ... :laugh:
lol quad core cpu with 1.6ghz and 2gb rams is more than enough, why are you OC'ing?
EdgaBimbam said:
lol quad core cpu with 1.6ghz and 2gb rams is more than enough, why are you OC'ing?
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Couldn't have said it any better.
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I undeclocked it too 1.2 and it is still blazingly fast...
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gee2012 said:
It is exactly the same cpu as the S3 has afaik, and most S3 cpu`s crash at 1800 Mhz. The stock speed is fast enough for me as i overclocked the S3 to 1600 Mhz and it was allready fast imo. But we`ll see, still have to get my GN2 tuesday
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The Note 2 has a new revision of the CPU with higher yields. It should achieve higher clocks on the same voltage, or lower voltage on the same clocks. It is for example already voltaged a bit lower across the board than the S3.
How do we overclock the N2?
AjunNg said:
How do we overclock the N2?
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I use Perseus Kernel from AndreiLux, you can find this Kernel >HERE<
my Note runs at 1,9 Ghz without problems
Samtrix said:
I use Perseus Kernel from AndreiLux, you can find this Kernel >HERE<
my Note runs at 1,9 Ghz without problems
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I'll make my own...
If I do achive 2, I'll be happy. Though I have an 1.8 quad mba, the mba is much better cuz i hav turbo boost to 2.9
But the oc will let me play TF2 and GMOD so i'll be happy.

Will an Overclock to 1.7+gHZ be available?

I need it cuz I'll get a ONE x+ which has 1.7 preloaded. Also with loop device pls?
ATT PLS!
HTC one and a half still isn't as fast as the 4 core krait LG
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mrdumbdumb said:
HTC one and a half still isn't as fast as the 4 core krait LG
Sent from my LG-E970 using xda premium
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But I need 1.7 for special purposes.
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. There is zero reason that you"must" have a 1.7GHz instead of a 1.5GHz regardless of which system is actually faster.
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dbgeek said:
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. There is zero reason that you"must" have a 1.7GHz instead of a 1.5GHz regardless of which system is actually faster.
Sent from my LG-E970 using xda app-developers app
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Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
awesomehacker said:
Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
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.... and 1.7 GHz is required for that, regardless of the chip architecture? I'm not a computer engineer, but I know that a 2.0GHz Celeron processor can't do anything faster or better than a 1.5 GHz i5 (even if there is a bigger number in front of the "GHz"). Processor speed only matter if you are talking about the same chip architecture.
btw... there's no need for name calling.
dbgeek said:
.... and 1.7 GHz is required for that, regardless of the chip architecture? I'm not a computer engineer, but I know that a 2.0GHz Celeron processor can't do anything faster or better than a 1.5 GHz i5 (even if there is a bigger number in front of the "GHz"). Processor speed only matter if you are talking about the same chip architecture.
btw... there's no need for name calling.
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The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
awesomehacker said:
The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
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So... If I had a CPU that ran at 1.5GHz, there's no way the game could run on it, even if the processor/system is 1,000 times as powerful? Something simply doesn't sound "right" about that. We're not talking about requiring wavelengths of light syncing up or frequency of signal (if we were then computers of different frequencies could never "talk" to each other).
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so the CPU requirements on Team Fortress 2 states
"Minimum: 1.7 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM, DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE), Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connectiond
Recommended: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better), 1GB RAM, DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card, Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection"
EDIT: I neglected to add.... And if the game requires something above what current phone processors can do, 1.7GHz has NOTHING to do with it.
You understand that both of the phones that you are considering have a more powerful CPU than a Pentium 4 (which is 12 year old architecture), right?
awesomehacker said:
The game requires 1.7. That's why I'm asking 4 it.
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SO lets say u got a game and it needs i3 @ 3Ghz to run and you got i7 @ 2.8Ghz so your saying it wont RUN ROFL?
awesomehacker said:
Run damn Linux idiot. Then dock to tv, I can play tf2 on my fing phone
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Sorry to burst your bubble but even with steam coming to Linux its only x86 not arm, and opengl not egl.
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dbgeek said:
So... If I had a CPU that ran at 1.5GHz, there's no way the game could run on it, even if the processor/system is 1,000 times as powerful? Something simply doesn't sound "right" about that. We're not talking about requiring wavelengths of light syncing up or frequency of signal (if we were then computers of different frequencies could never "talk" to each other).
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so the CPU requirements on Team Fortress 2 states
"Minimum: 1.7 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM, DirectX® 8.1 level Graphics Card (Requires support for SSE), Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connectiond
Recommended: Pentium 4 processor (3.0GHz, or better), 1GB RAM, DirectX® 9 level Graphics Card, Windows® 7 (32/64-bit)/Vista/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection"
EDIT: I neglected to add.... And if the game requires something above what current phone processors can do, 1.7GHz has NOTHING to do with it.
You understand that both of the phones that you are considering have a more powerful CPU than a Pentium 4 (which is 12 year old architecture), right?
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... and notice that the RAM in the phones is 4X the minimum required.
While we're on this topic, the GPU is far more likely to be your limiting parameter, than the CPU. You need to research that aspect (the GPU's in phones aren't designed to run TV's esp today's large form HD TV's).
dbgeek said:
... and notice that the RAM in the phones is 4X the minimum required.
While we're on this topic, the GPU is far more likely to be your limiting parameter, than the CPU. You need to research that aspect (the GPU's in phones aren't designed to run TV's esp today's large form HD TV's).
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I have my phone rooted and would like to now overclock the CPU to 1.7GHZ just for the heck of it. I know the negative affects this can have on my CPU so I don't need a preaching. How can I do this?
Thanks!
loool
build a kernel with OC features
02transam said:
I have my phone rooted and would like to now overclock the CPU to 1.7GHZ just for the heck of it. I know the negative affects this can have on my CPU so I don't need a preaching. How can I do this?
Thanks!
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Was playing around with LiquidSmooth, RootBox, and Houcha kernel in April. Also ended up purchasing FauxClock.
Some combination of those on some date allowed a CPU overclock to 1.7 GHz and GPU overclock to 487 MHz.
Wasn't interested in the overclock capability, so didn't mark down the dates or versions. But it's definitely possible.
Sent through the magic of an LG Optimus G (E971) running RootBox 4.2.2.
phoenix_rizzen said:
Was playing around with LiquidSmooth, RootBox, and Houcha kernel in April. Also ended up purchasing FauxClock.
Some combination of those on some date allowed a CPU overclock to 1.7 GHz and GPU overclock to 487 MHz.
Wasn't interested in the overclock capability, so didn't mark down the dates or versions. But it's definitely possible.
Sent through the magic of an LG Optimus G (E971) running RootBox 4.2.2.
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It's is possible yet useless with our phone. Also, our chip doesn't like overclocking at all. Finally, the worth of energy loss vs performance gain is not good enough to justify using overclock.
Totally agree with you chad.
On this device oc is useless,you don't compare overclocking a galaxy s with an optimus g.
Not to mention it's not that easy,to find the proper voltage/freqs table.too much work "just for the heck of it".
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Thanks for the responses. My old galaxy was a hoot to overclock and i just guess i miss that.
chadouming said:
It's is possible yet useless with our phone. Also, our chip doesn't like overclocking at all. Finally, the worth of energy loss vs performance gain is not good enough to justify using overclock.
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Never said it was useful, just that it was possible.
Once you get above 1Ghz dual-core Cortex-A9/Krait/A7, everything is gravy, and it's the GPU or memory controller that becomes the bottleneck. Just look at how poorly the Tegra3 is...mainly due to crappy GPU and limited memory bandwidth.
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I just bought the faux 123 app hoping it would let me overclock the cpu but it wont. Everything i have tried wont let me go past the factory 1.5ghz.
02transam said:
I just bought the faux 123 app hoping it would let me overclock the cpu but it wont. Everything i have tried wont let me go past the factory 1.5ghz.
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a kernel which supports OC is needed.
you can buy all cpu tools and no one will let you overclock the cpu without OC features. haha rofl
and there is NO kernel for OC available and i hope it never will be

How in the hell the processor can go 2.00GHz>??

So I flashed Agni Kernel and there is an option to change CPU Frequency. By default it is 1.6GHz so it means samsung created it max 1.6Ghz, How in the hell it can go 2.00GHz???
manuel1992 said:
So I flashed Agni Kernel and there is an option to change CPU Frequency. By default it is 1.6GHz so it means samsung created it max 1.6Ghz, How in the hell it can go 2.00GHz???
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Ofcourse it can because software controls it, you just specify different values i.e. voltage etc and it can work at hingher frequencies. The only real problems are battery usage (will be higher) and system (CPU) heating... thus possibly shortening CPU/component life....
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Ofcourse it can because software controls it, you just specify different values i.e. voltage etc and it can work at hingher frequencies. The only real problems are battery usage (will be higher) and system (CPU) heating... thus possibly shortening CPU/component life....
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if so, can I put 10GHz??
manuel1992 said:
if so, can I put 10GHz??
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TMSC created a 3.1 GHz Cortex A9 dual (the processor in note ii is a Quad version of the same chip) to test out the max speed achievable. No information what type of cooling was used for it. Can only assume that it will require heatsink & fan. For tablets & phones, 2 GHz is the max speed you will see with 28nm.
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TMSC created a 3.1 GHz Cortex A9 dual (the processor in note ii is a Quad version of the same chip) to test out the max speed achievable. No information what type of cooling was used for it. Can only assume that it will require heatsink & fan. For tablets & phones, 2 GHz is the max speed you will see with 28nm.
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if it's 2GHz the max speed why samsung sold it as 1.6GHz? or it is because of heat?
manuel1992 said:
if it's 2GHz the max speed why samsung sold it as 1.6GHz? or it is because of heat?
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Vendors tend to slow upgrade the clock as it gives them more room to add every small jump as a new device. You as a customer are obleged to buy any new devices as quick as possible to sustain revenues.
manuel1992 said:
if it's 2GHz the max speed why samsung sold it as 1.6GHz? or it is because of heat?
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What "sms2000" said, plus heat, battery usage, stability.... your device might be able to work at 2Ghz but i.e. not for 3 years but only 2 years....

CPU Question

Hi,
I got this tablet a few days ago and so far I am quite happy with it. Im using CM11 with ElamentalX's kernel.
I know the Nexus 7 2013 has an S4 Pro, or basicly a Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064T) but underclocked.
My mobile has a Snapdragon 400 (MSM8926)
So shouldn't the Tablet's CPU be more powerful?
My Phone scores much better in Quadrant than my Nexus 7 in the CPU area. I know its only a benchmark etc but it still confuses me a little.
Is it just a case of the ARM Cortex A-7 Cores in my phone @1.2Ghz are newer and better than the Krait 300 cores in the Nexus 7?
I have overclocked the CPU in my Nexus 7 to see how it affects performance and while a 2.1Ghz OC seems stable it still can not catch up to the Snapdragon 400 in my phone.
Seansmit17 said:
Hi,
I got this tablet a few days ago and so far I am quite happy with it. Im using CM11 with ElamentalX's kernel.
I know the Nexus 7 2013 has an S4 Pro, or basicly a Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064T) but underclocked.
My mobile has a Snapdragon 400 (MSM8926)
So shouldn't the Tablet's CPU be more powerful?
My Phone scores much better in Quadrant than my Nexus 7 in the CPU area. I know its only a benchmark etc but it still confuses me a little.
Is it just a case of the ARM Cortex A-7 Cores in my phone @1.2Ghz are newer and better than the Krait 300 cores in the Nexus 7?
I have overclocked the CPU in my Nexus 7 to see how it affects performance and while a 2.1Ghz OC seems stable it still can not catch up to the Snapdragon 400 in my phone.
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Trust me, benchmarks are just a bunch of scores that DOES NOT represent the smoothness/ real performance of a phone. Even if your phone scores higher, do not worry. Some device manufacturers find loopholes in benchmarks to increase their score.
Also sometimes, the performance also depends upon optimisation of the ROM.
I am using 1.3ghz underclocked with ElementalX. Trust me, my nexus works liquid smooth on latest CM 11 snapshot with that settings.
I would not say that benchmarks DO NOT MATTER AT ALL, however, they do show some of capacities of a phone hardware. However, software implementation is also very important. In a nutcase, you should not worry about benchmarks as simple as that.
Hnk1 says it all, why do you even care about benchmarks?? You want to confuse yourself for fun?
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