I have many questions about android 4.4 and I am sure many others do also. I have created this thread as an information database for AOSP 4.4. Also for any information regarding KitKat making its way to T-Mobile Note 3 and how development is coming along.
If its a Q&A shouldn't it be in the Q&A section? Rename it to Android 4.4 General Discussion, it sounds better
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Regarding kit Kat making it way to gn3 it will probably be minimum 3 months but more than likely 6+ and probably the one of two point updates we see. I am enthused about 4.4 but not Samsung giving it to us right away. Eager to see Google wallet on our phones though.
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Regarding kit Kat making it way to gn3 it will probably be minimum 3 months but more than likely 6+ and probably the one of two point updates we see. I am enthused about 4.4 but not Samsung giving it to us right away. Eager to see Google wallet on our phones though.
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I am hoping that there will be some 4.4 cyanogenmod based ROMs released soon.
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I am hoping that there will be some 4.4 cyanogenmod based ROMs released soon.
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I am hoping that there will be some 4.4 cyanogenmod based ROMs released soon.
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Since the Nexus 5 is using the same chipset as the Note 3, getting some things going won't be as difficult. I'd give it 2 months before we see a "stable" enough build. I personally don't considering AOSP builds 100% stable as there seems to be bugs with them, IF it's running on a NON-Nexus device... Just a personal feeling on it though...
But those who do want AOSP, it won't take as long as some may think. Note 3 is the only device that's really really new still, G2's been out a little bit, if I'm not mistaken. But like I said, Nexus 5 uses S 800, like the Note 3. It'll come sooner than some may think....
Follwo their gerrit here to see the latest changes.... http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/statuspen,n,z
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Strangely i didn't found people asking about that while searching on google...
Soon enough
Imilka has signed up for Note 2 dev list so we can expect a PA
Atleast i can say it WILL come. :good:
As ParanoidAndroid is based on cyanogenmod afaik, i`am afraid it still will take a while mate
Like... Months..?
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Like... Months..?
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It depends on Samsung, they have to publish the scource codes of the kernel and other hardware components or CM cannot go ahed and start coding.
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It depends on Samsung, they have to publish the scource codes of the kernel and other hardware components or CM cannot go ahed and start coding.
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They have posted. But the people in the US can't get a note 2 in their hands until November. That's the troubke
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argh,
really, if paranoid (or at least cm10/11) won't be available soon, that will make me buy these LG Nexus or whatever else Google may show us
Right now, there are no official porters for CM10 for the galaxy note.
Samsung, by not releasing exynos/framework documentation, basically has made it too difficult to develop CM10 for it.
The Note 1 developers basically got fed up and quit until Samsung makes it more practical.
So no CM10 means no PA.
We can hope that a new developer takes the reigns, but as the other poster said: we're in for a long wait.
- Frank
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They have posted. But the people in the US can't get a note 2 in their hands until November. That's the troubke
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Posted what? Where?
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Posted what? Where?
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http://www.google.com.hk/search?client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&q=note+2+source
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Right now, there are no official porters for CM10 for the galaxy note.
Samsung, by not releasing exynos/framework documentation, basically has made it too difficult to develop CM10 for it.
The Note 1 developers basically got fed up and quit until Samsung makes it more practical.
So no CM10 means no PA.
We can hope that a new developer takes the reigns, but as the other poster said: we're in for a long wait.
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We have no official CM porters? since when are porters official its either original CM or ported CM
Anyways , atleast im more than 100% sure we WILL get ported cyanogen mod, and most probably PA too.
now ive used ported CM 10 on around 3 of other devices, and take my word if you havent tried it yet, a port totally depends on which device CM it is ported from. E.g. If we get ported cm 10, it will atleast be as much performing as CM 10 on S 3, whose hardware is resembling, because the porters will take as much help as they can from CM10 of S3...
And if CM10 may be ported, why not PA? its not like first CM has to be ported in order to port a PA second
Thats kernel source, not hardware sources, they are two separate things the CM team need both to make a fully working CM rom for this device (and any other modern Samsung device)
yes just heard it on Google I /O s4 pure android coming to att and tmobile but Google selling it amazing!!!!!
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
Definitely wanting to sale my note 2 for that.
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
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That's what I believe it is too.
Why would anyone switch their gs4s to that? Can't aosp just be cooked up from that version? It'll deff be much more bug free then aosp at this point
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
Im just gonna wait to see if there is a rom coming out to install
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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I wonder now that there is a stock android build coming will cm for s4 be better since they will have the code specifically for this phone?
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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You shouldn't feel bad about your purchase. I'm quite happy with mine so far (except the overheating issue lately).
I don't have the AOSP version yet, so I can't really speak of the features that are/aren't going to be there.
I'm guessing if they make it true stock Android, there will be no Samsung bloat at all.
So it's basically a much more powerful version than any Nexus phone will ever be,
and as such the price is quite high. Personally, I would not consider it at that price.
I'm happy with my T-Mo, and with a few customization here or there, I can always get stock.
This is really geared toward the hard-core Android fans/developers. You can't doubt the S4 has the best internal hardware
of any phone out there, and there lies possibilities.
I also heard the news from google I/O. Does this mean that this version of the S4 will be as open as a nexus and easy for developers to make their custom ROMs for it?
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What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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Sony basically did the same thing with the ZR, took complaints and made a new phone out of it
Just purchased a 600$ Ip57 phone? Well there's IP58 now! (Waterproof not resistant)
It's good to have options, but honestly most people that buy pure vanilla Android are experienced users. Most will have no clue rather it's Vanilla or not.
So there in lies the questions. Why put this out after and most that come here that have an s4 already hacked it to death no? So I don't see the point of the users here who want to upgrade to this when you just put a vanilla type ROM on it.
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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Not true. my nexus 4 gets bugs every once in a while.
If the hardware is identical to the tmoble version then you should just be able to flash the image through Odin right? Seems kind of like the galaxy nexus where you flash takju from yakju or whatever and boom, you are getting the Google play version of updates, wallet functionality etc. If anything it says Samsung has opened their flagship to aosp right?
Even if you think $650 is too much this means that potentially, Samsung will get touch wiz updates to new versions faster as there will be nexus level compatibility with each new android update. I'm not saying immediate but they will have an inside track based on the fact that Google will actively update their device through AOSP for at least 2 years.
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CM will always have bugs due to the way they change the Android coding. Where it is stable and great work people should never look for a bug free OS
Wayne Tech Nexus
I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/
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I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/
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u heard it right they have rolled out Jb Android 4.3 (JWR66V) for nexus 4 and other for nexus 7,10 etc
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
so as far samsung is concerned it will take atleast 3 months from now if we are lucky or maybe even end of this year but yes the good news is that samsung has confirmed the 4.3 update for note2 but have not commented anything on the release date yet
There are already many many threads for same subject and I think they will be adding up
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There is an update and other devices thread in the stickies.
Instead of making a dozen threads just post in that thread.
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All we know is Q4 2013
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Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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How come nexus devices get updates 1st?
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How come nexus devices get updates 1st?
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Because Nexus devices are devices that are made by Google's standards and android is developed for this devices by Google themselves. Then with the android source code (AOSP) manufacturers such as Samsung, HTC, Sony etc etc. are free to make their own rom for it, this is why it will always follow later, especially 'cause they have to make sure it is completely bugfree. Next to the big manufacturers we have ofcourse developers like CyanogenMod team and other good developers (i.e. from XDA!) who provide us from great roms too, and some even better than the stock samsung roms.
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Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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Will people stop talking about the s4 sales. They just posted they made over 6.6 billion which is up from last year.
So they didn't sell as many as they wanted. Well the s3 is still an awesome phone so why would everyone just to an s4
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My cat has more intelligence than the people who keep starting these threads. How they scrape up the IQ to actually purchase a mobile phone in the first place amazes me.
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol.now I got to know the reason behind delay in update from samsung
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Frunobulax said:
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol. Just expect a tweet from samsung of 4.3 cery soon" coming shortly.
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i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.
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i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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no, I want official, please give official 4.3 for note2, please, I want it please
(hope this will stop a new thread, lets pray)
via Note 2
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i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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Make a topic mate
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"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.
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No, TW compared to CM actually is crap. CM S Pen Add-on, Note Buddy and Papyrus and S Pen features (incl. Pulling in or out detection) work perfectly.
definitely by the time samsung releases official 4.3 there will be 4 to 5 more threads on the same topic for sure
By the time Sammy is almost ready to release 4.3, Key Lime Pie 5.0 will be out and they will then decide to skip 4.3 for Note II and go directly to 5.0.
I am having issues building cm.
I just know how to initiate a build , I don't know how to fix because I don't know any programming language.
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Sorry if this an obvious question, but I'd really like to know if I'd have to root/unlock it to flash some more recent Android version.
Speaking of which, how difficult is it to flash/unroot?
At least put an effort into researching.
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No there are no roms for this tablet at this time.
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Lmao post with no answer.. put some effort its just 2-3 keys "no" then "yes" WOOT!
No man not yet. They do have plans to.
It's true that the answer is a simple no. But I had to learn the hard way when I first jumped into this site a few years ago that people do not like to be asked questions that are easy to answer. You don't even have to look on this website. Simply look at the spec sheet on LG's website and you will see that it comes with 4.2 .2. There is already a rootkit out for the device but no roms at this time. I honestly don't think you need a newer version at this time. 4.2 .2 jelly bean does everything you need in my opinion. Otherwise get a Nexus device. I have a Nexus 4 running Kit Kat Paranoid Android and Franco kernel and I couldn't be happier. But when it comes to my tablet I just wanted for basic consumption and a stock Android is perfectly fine. Just my opinion.
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Sorry if this an obvious question, but I'd really like to know if I'd have to root/unlock it to flash some more recent Android version.
Speaking of which, how difficult is it to flash/unroot?
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What is it that you are going to gain from updating to 4.3? The bigger number? There is a lot more that can be improved in the ROM than going to 4.3
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would like Android 4.3 or later to enable opengl es 3.0 support for games. Hopefully lg comes out with an update soon.
i would like to see cyanogen mod 11 or pac rom much more than official updates of LG
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would like Android 4.3 or later to enable opengl es 3.0 support for games. Hopefully lg comes out with an update soon.
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i would like to see cyanogen mod 11 or pac rom much more than official updates of LG
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KitKat has been confirmed for the Galaxy S3 as I had suspected. Use this to discuss Kitkat, and post any relevant information to the release.
Source :
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/0...-note-2-android-4-4-kitkat-updates-confirmed/
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So I read a report. May not be real but I don't see what lends it to being fake. The AT&T Galaxy S3 may be updated to Kitkat.. Which means us here at d2tmo should also get it if this holds true.
You decide. Also post anything you find relating to Kitkat on the S3 officially. Thanks!
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Samsung has confirmed that the S3 will get kitkat. Now its just a matter of waiting for the update to be finished, sent to T-Mobile to be approved, and then pushed out.
So apparently I cant post links yet but if you go to the android and me website, they have an article with a link to the press statement made by Samsung.
Based on the devices on the list, we will probably have to wait a while, at least a month or two is my guess, just considering how new each device is.
Sidenote: if you have a Nexus 5, why do you care about the S3???
Not a rumor, its been confirmed that all U.S S3 variants will be 4.4.2 It makes a lot of sense for samsung to still update firmware on the still pretty popular and 2 year old device like ours. The only thing that could knock my S3 off its pedestal could be the S5, so I'm waiting for Feb 24th to come and see if it seduces me enough to jump on it
They started rolling out kit kat yssterday. I dontvknow how long for the s3 to get it. But its about time we get it.
Updated to reflect the current release information!
What's the over/under on the likelihood that Knox has undergone a major revamp to try and make it harder to crack in the next release?
I really like my SGS3, but after all of the crap Samsung has pulled against the modding community, I think this will be my last Samsung device.
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What's the over/under on the likelihood that Knox has undergone a major revamp to try and make it harder to crack in the next release?
I really like my SGS3, but after all of the crap Samsung has pulled against the modding community, I think this will be my last Samsung device.
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I appreciate that show of support against samsung. I approve of this message.
I'm just curious why anybody cares about touch wiz kitkat? I've used a few different kitkat roms now including cm11 and they all work pretty well. A few have some quirks but overall they've been easily reliable enough to use everyday. Other than wifi calling what else do you like about TW versus anything else?
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I'm just curious why anybody cares about touch wiz kitkat? I've used a few different kitkat roms now including cm11 and they all work pretty well. A few have some quirks but overall they've been easily reliable enough to use everyday. Other than wifi calling what else do you like about TW versus anything else?
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I agree with your sentiment. WIFI calling is the only reason I use TW and now, with multiboot, I can have a TW ROM as a secondary ROM and run CM11/AOKP KK as my daily driver.
I'm sure there's a lot of other folks who prefer TW to AOSP - different strokes for different folks.
I've never really liked TW but I'm curious to see how they integrate TW S voice with kit kat Google now.
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Its not that TW is bad by all means...rather its KNOX and the excessive bloat it comes with. There are much worse things than Touchwiz trust me.
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Since I posted my other response I've ended up going back to TW 4.3. I didn't know this until I tried it but aosp doesn't have tv out like TW does, at least not using the hd I cable I already have. I miss some of the aosp features but I really don't notice any difference between kitkat and jellybean.
kitkat is officially rolling out for the S4. So its the Note 3 and S4 already with updates. Could the S3 be next or would they go for the Note 2 first and leave us last?
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kitkat is officially rolling out for the S4. So its the Note 3 and S4 already with updates. Could the S3 be next or would they go for the Note 2 first and leave us last?
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Note 2 first than S3
Samsung always updates its Note lineup before the Galaxy lineup
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Note 2 first than S3
Samsung always updates its Note lineup before the Galaxy lineup
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But when will kitkat finally be available for the s3?
I would say a couple months the most
Now is when the s4 is getting kit Kat wow. It's all about market strategy. We probably will get it at the earliest by June. Samsung probably doesn't want a 2 year old device running the same thing too close to when the s5 releases.
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Shouldn't be to long considering sprint already released 3 build versions on there device manifest. The sprint galaxy s3 kitkat build is now at NC4 which means it should release this month or the next and t mobile shouldn't be far behind.
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Shouldn't be to long considering sprint already released 3 build versions on there device manifest. The sprint galaxy s3 kitkat build is now at NC4 which means it should release this month or the next and t mobile shouldn't be far behind.
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