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Question about importing..

Ok, this is for all you guys who have imported before. i have never by the way. When the phone arrives and you insert your sim card, att/tmobile for example. will the phone automatically pick up the required signals to stay on your carrier and not roam to another? or do you have to set it to us what you want only?
Also one of the reasons i am choosing this phone is to have a phone that will be ready and capable of handling att's eventual takeover of tmobile. I would imagine that you will have to get an att sim card when that happens. But it is nice to be prepared Thanx
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Ok I should have asked this but it just crossed my mind.lol.. Since the phone is being imported will everything work correctly?Will I get the Us version of the market, etc?
Also is anyone else afraid of day one bugs?

yes, it's governed by the sim card. you put in an at+t sim card, it'll look for an at+t signal. same with tmobile.
eric b

Well, the T-mobile SIM card will connect you to the T-mo network. The opposite for AT&T SIM card
It has pentaband HSPA+ though, so you'll get full speed with both networks.

Lol ok, seems simple enough. What confused me was i remember on my nexus s, there was a clickable box that allowed me to switch between the two. So i figured id ask
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BiGMERF said:
Lol ok, seems simple enough. What confused me was i remember on my nexus s, there was a clickable box that allowed me to switch between the two. So i figured id ask
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I think you mean Data Roaming?
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akash3656 said:
I think you mean Data Roaming?
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Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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BiGMERF said:
Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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lol look at that picture then re-phrase your question...
And I'm sure you're thinking of just enabling data roaming. Just remember that if you're using a T-mo SIM card, your phone can't just magically start using AT&T for no reason...

BiGMERF said:
Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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Sure, you could click Network operators and see both networks listed. You would be denied from connecting to the network that doesn't match your SIM though.
Is the knownledge really so bad about GSM in the US that this seems like some kind of dark magic? It must really suck to be so controlled by the carriers whim. You can see it like terrestrial TV. When searching for channels you will pick up all channels that are broadcast (providing the signal is good enough) but you can't actually watch them unless you pay for them.

blunden said:
Sure, you could click Network operators and see both networks listed. You would be denied from connecting to the network that doesn't match your SIM though.
Is the knownledge really so bad about GSM in the US that this seems like some kind of dark magic? It must really suck to be so controlled by the carriers whim. You can see it like terrestrial TV. When searching for channels you will pick up all channels that are broadcast (providing the signal is good enough) but you can't actually watch them unless you pay for them.
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Yes, it is this bad. No one knows how it works. Not their fault, its the fact that they think that the carriers are the ones that make the phones and give them to consumers, rather than the consumers purchasing phones and using the carriers as dumb network providers.

Ok. Ok... I figured it to be that way, but i wanted to make sure. Like i said i have never imported :/
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BiGMERF said:
Ok. Ok... I figured it to be that way, but i wanted to make sure. Like i said i have never imported :/
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Just remember, it doesn't matter where in the world the phone comes from. If it supports the bands for the Network/SIM you're using, just put in your SIM and don't worry about it lol. Don't think of it as being an "international" phone. Its just a GSM phone.

BiGMERF said:
Ok, this is for all you guys who have imported before. i have never by the way. When the phone arrives and you insert your sim card, att/tmobile for example. will the phone automatically pick up the required signals to stay on your carrier and not roam to another? or do you have to set it to us what you want only?
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I was on T-mobile USA a few years ago when living in the States; started off with pre-paid and moved to a contracct plan. From what I remember, the pre-paid SIM cards don't let you roam on Cingular/AT&T but the contract SIM would. It depends on inter-carrier arrangements so it's best to ask a T-mobile rep about this.
And in doubt, I'd suggest disabling data roaming if you're in area where you can't reliably connect to your normal carrier!

hircus said:
I was on T-mobile USA a few years ago when living in the States; started off with pre-paid and moved to a contracct plan. From what I remember, the pre-paid SIM cards don't let you roam on Cingular/AT&T but the contract SIM would. It depends on inter-carrier arrangements so it's best to ask a T-mobile rep about this.
And in doubt, I'd suggest disabling data roaming if you're in area where you can't reliably connect to your normal carrier!
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There was a reason why I wasn't posting anything here. I knew stuff in US was a bit different....... So like what hircus said, ask a T-mobile rep.....
In Malaysia where I live, the only contract phones that actually sell in great numbers is the iPhone. Our contracts plans are quite bad and buying an unlocked phone and putting your own SIM card is a cheaper on the long run. Oh, (not too sure for the iPhone), in Malaysia when you buy a phone on contract, the phone is not "locked" to a specific carrier... go figure......

Ok I should have asked this but it just crossed my mind.lol.. Since the phone is being imported will everything work correctly?Will I get the Us version of the market, etc?

yes, the market is sim card dependent you'll get the US market and services (like google voice), no worries.

Dec 7, 1pm Canada release, is this the GSM or CDMA / LTE version

is this the GSM or CDMA / LTE version?
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according to the Bestbuy Ad it is the i9250m or HSI925BR

Since it's for Bell and Virigin in Canada, it can only possibly be the GSM/HSPA+ version. The CDMA/LTE model is specific to Verizon and won't work for anyone else.

i can almost bet damn Bell will not sell those phones without a contract like Telus / Rogers did with launch phones

Yep... no chance you'll get it off contract, pretty sure of that lol.
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i can almost bet damn Bell will not sell those phones without a contract like Telus / Rogers did with launch phones
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Hopefully some Canadian friends will find out for us if this thing has microSD slot, because Samsung Ca website list that it does, but BestBuy Ca website doesn't say so.

I just got back from bell and put my $50.00 deposit and yes there are selling the phone outright. $649.00 and it's 16gb..

Does anybody know if the Canada version will have Tmobile USA 3G/4G bands? I'm thinking it may be cheaper overall to buy the Canada version then it would the UK/International version.
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Base on Samsung and BestBuy Canadian site, it do support the 1700 and 2100 HSPA bands.

eksasol said:
Hopefully some Canadian friends will find out for us if this thing has microSD slot, because Samsung Ca website list that it does, but BestBuy Ca website doesn't say so.
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I'm using the phone right now. There's no external memory slots.

I talked to Bell about 2 days ago, you have to be already a Bell customer or a new customer on a new contract, to buy. They will not sell outright at least for the first month of sales.

Bad Liar said:
I'm using the phone right now. There's no external memory slots.
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this was expected, it'd have been real cool if it did include it though

I'm planning on buying on Thursday and using my Telus SIM. I don't mind buying a 30 Day for $30 to get it a month early. I'm already paying $649.99 plus taxes for the phone. What's $30 after that?
What I am hearing is some confusion as to whether Bell is locking the phones. I thought that was just them assuming, until I heard that some UK carriers had locked them too. Has anyone heard anything definite about locked/unlocked?

I'm gonna guess they'll be unlocked but I have no solid information, just using the Nexus S last year as a proxy (was never sold locked in Canada despite what the carriers said).
Also it might be easier to get it from Virgin Mobile if you want to just buy it outright, which is what I'll try - their supertab or whatever dumb thing they call it then just cancel immediately after.

why cant verizon make ad like that and post it on their website ughhh i am getting sick of verizon

i wouldn't be worried about the SIM lock
you can always go online to have it unlocked
heck even just across the street inside Eaton Center lower level there's a cell phone kiosk there that does unlocking

I hope that's not the case. I'd much rather get it from Canada than from across the pond.

They won't be locked.

If you buy if from Futureshop or Best Buy you will be able to buy it outright. If you go to a Bell store they won't let you buy it without signing up for at least one month of service.

Not according to this...
http://community.futureshop.ca/t5/T...y-Nexus-previews-Android-s-future/ba-p/330548
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If you buy if from Futureshop or Best Buy you will be able to buy it outright. If you go to a Bell store they won't let you buy it without signing up for at least one month of service.
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Probably another 35 or so for "activation fee" if you do that. I think they only waive the fee for new contracts.
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I'm planning on buying on Thursday and using my Telus SIM. I don't mind buying a 30 Day for $30 to get it a month early. I'm already paying $649.99 plus taxes for the phone. What's $30 after that?
What I am hearing is some confusion as to whether Bell is locking the phones. I thought that was just them assuming, until I heard that some UK carriers had locked them too. Has anyone heard anything definite about locked/unlocked?
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[Q] Which Model(s) Should I Buy Out of Contract for Unlocked use with AT&T

I have decided (if it is inexpensive enough) to purchase a Note 4 off-contract for use with AT&T.
My question is: which models are compatible with AT&T, in all respects. I don't want to sacrifice legitimate LTE connectivity, and I've read elsewhere that some of the factory-unlocked models don't play well with AT&T's LTE network, depending on where you live.
Obviously, my motivation for going this route is to get around the ongoing battle of AT&T locking the bootloaders on all of their Samsung devices, and given that I've had my S4 for 2 years with no unlock in sight...I'm never ever willing to go through 2 years of having a locked bootloader again.

Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2962920 as the T-Mobile appears to have all the necessary bands needed for use on ATT.

RockRatt said:
Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2962920 as the T-Mobile appears to have all the necessary bands needed for use on ATT.
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It certainly doesn't have ALL the necessary bands, but you could argue that it has enough of them

T-Mobile
I have the T-mobile version and AT&T version of the Note 4. The T-mobile version works as good or the same compared to the at&t phone. The only issue i had was a few calls to at&t to stop them from seeing it as a blackberry. once that was fixed I've had zero issues whatsoever. Your mileage might vary depending upon what bands your area uses. If i had to do it again, i would most defiantly only buy the T-mobile version of the Note 4. My AT&T version is just a spare $852 paperweight sitting in the drawer due to the locked bootloader. Not to mention the T-Mobile version is $100 less on costs. Oh well i guess i have a spare screen just in case.

I would think the att version would be cheaper than T-Mobile because T-Mobile has unlocked bootloader. Why do you need unlocked boot loader? For Roms?

stevenj05 said:
I would think the att version would be cheaper than T-Mobile because T-Mobile has unlocked bootloader. Why do you need unlocked boot loader? For Roms?
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AT&T version is way more expensive on full price.
Unlocked bootloader for full root, kernel, twrp, rom support.
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AT&T version is way more expensive on full price.
Unlocked bootloader for full root, kernel, twrp, rom support.
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Ahh. No need to buy from carrier. Bought from another site and att let me add insurance on it. Plus note 5 around the corner so maybe wait and get tmobile one from carrier even cheaper

Maybe. I'm using square trade for warranty. It's $5 month with a deductible of only $75. But yup. I have AT&T version and T-Mobile phone. I bought both on payments.
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sandman7793 said:
Maybe. I'm using square trade for warranty. It's $5 month with a deductible of only $75. But yup. I have AT&T version and T-Mobile phone. I bought both on payments.
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I like square trade and would recommend it but it doesn't cover stolen/lost phones. And they always have a good deal like $100 for 2 year warranty.

Is the Verizon branded HTC 10 Unlocked?

I canceled my unlocked pre order that i was going to use on my AT&T account when they told me end of May early June before it ships. I was wondering is the Verizon branded one fully functional out the box for att like a lot of their other phones are? If so just gonna go in and buy one for 648

I don't think it is. The T-Mobile one probably is, though.

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I don't think it is. The T-Mobile one probably is, though.
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It indeed is unlocked. I have access to a cricket sim. I put the sim in, the phone informed me that it wasn't a verizon sim. I cleared the message, entered the cricket apn and indeed it worked. I am able to place phone calls and surf the web. Signal is HSPA, so maybe the radios are different???

All Verizon LTE devices are sim unlocked I believe
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rsa 329 said:
It indeed is unlocked. I have access to a cricket sim. I put the sim in, the phone informed me that it wasn't a verizon sim. I cleared the message, entered the cricket apn and indeed it worked. I am able to place phone calls and surf the web. Signal is HSPA, so maybe the radios are different???
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thank you

I stand corrected. This is awesome news as I have to purchase mine through BestBuy, and currently all they have are Verizon and Sprint.
I was to they'd receive unlocked but who knows.

DonJuan23 said:
I canceled my unlocked pre order that i was going to use on my AT&T account when they told me end of May early June before it ships. I was wondering is the Verizon branded one fully functional out the box for att like a lot of their other phones are? If so just gonna go in and buy one for 648
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IT is sim unlocked, but you will be limited using it on GSM networks, some features will behave wonky, and it will be missing some bands. Buy an unlocked one.
As far as teh bootloader.........maybe soon

jcase said:
IT is sim unlocked, but you will be limited using it on GSM networks, some features will behave wonky, and it will be missing some bands. Buy an unlocked one.
As far as teh bootloader.........maybe soon
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+1 that's a terrible idea
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I really want the Verizon HTC 10, I have the LG G4 on VZW now which to this day still doesn't have bootloader unlocked and I hate that. I will wait to see if the VZW HTC 10 can have its bootloader unlocked so I can finally go back to having a customer recovery and ROMs.

For Verizon HTC 10 can unlock GSM....
Ho about LTE unlocked?
Its support LTE Band such LTE band 3 and 8?
Thanks

adrs168 said:
For Verizon HTC 10 can unlock GSM....
Ho about LTE unlocked?
Its support LTE Band such LTE band 3 and 8?
Thanks
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When Did SnapDragon Bootloader Get Unlocked? Or Is This Article BS?

Ran across a article written on June 17th
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Is this for real or just clickbait?
Source: https://www.goandroid.co.in/unlock-bootloader-of-galaxy-s9-plus-snapdragon/84688/

Certainly not the US version but if the OEM unlock option is available in settings then I guess it's possible on the few other places that got the snapdragon.

Tel864 said:
Certainly not the US version but if the OEM unlock option is available in settings then I guess it's possible on the few other places that got the snapdragon.
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The author made a comment claiming that the OEM Unlock will appear if the phone is left on for a week. Check it out.
I don't think that is correct though. I'm pretty sure my S9 has been left on for over a week and it hasn't appeared.

zzEvilGeniuszz said:
The author made a comment claiming that the OEM Unlock will appear if the phone is left on for a week. Check it out.
I don't think that is correct though. I'm pretty sure my S9 has been left on for over a week and it hasn't appeared.
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its not for U or U1 variants... at the same time, the site is not BS because HK/China and LATIN AMERICA devices are also snapdragon..
just bcuz it says snapdragon doesnt mean its USA variants

Why is USA s9/s9+ locked but others are not this seems like Sammy fell into carrier bs making them a bad brand for me I will be buying other brands b4 I'm ever locked down again..
Root ok I can deal with out if need to be but this not able to use Hotspot is driving me crazy to a point I'm considering sim unlocking my HTC 10 and going back to that this is insain
elliwigy said:
its not for U or U1 variants... at the same time, the site is not BS because HK/China and LATIN AMERICA devices are also snapdragon..
just bcuz it says snapdragon doesnt mean its USA variants
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Can confirm, my SM-G9600/DS (Hong Kong Snapdragon S9), has OEM unlock option in developer settings.

kushman said:
Why is USA s9/s9+ locked but others are not this seems like Sammy fell into carrier bs making them a bad brand for me I will be buying other brands b4 I'm ever locked down again..
Root ok I can deal with out if need to be but this not able to use Hotspot is driving me crazy to a point I'm considering sim unlocking my HTC 10 and going back to that this is insain
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you can use hotspot, pay for it lol
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I am a strong beleave I shouldn't have to pay to use Hotspot due to the Corp world already limits amount data we recieve why would I pay more for same limited data if it was truly unlimited that's a diff story but being they con the customer already I'm a strong beleave in hacking it
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you can use hotspot, pay for it lol
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kushman said:
I am a strong beleave I shouldn't have to pay to use Hotspot due to the Corp world already limits amount data we recieve why would I pay more for same limited data if it was truly unlimited that's a diff story but being they con the customer already I'm a strong beleave in hacking it
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tgey provide a service.. you chooseto use it ornot is the point..

elliwigy said:
tgey provide a service.. you chooseto use it ornot is the point..
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A lot of people seem to forget this... If you COO you would do the same. No matter what your mind says. Besides you have the lives of thousand of employees. Millions of share holders that are banking you'll grow and be profitable.

Well nothing on mine Canadian version. NO OEM Unlock

I have a Samsung Galaxy A01 (SM-A015M/DS) Latin American version, Region Panama, with Snapdragon processor. My experience posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-root-device-samsung-galaxy-a01-t4167509
The OEM UNLOCK appears but all of the usual unlock proccedure produces no Bootloader Unlock when it resets.