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battle of SGS2 Hercules vs. SGS2 Hercules

Samsung Galaxy S II vs. 4G Samsung Galaxy S II X
$529.99 USD vs. $670 CDN
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vs.
Spec wise both phones are identical
the only real difference is that one has the t-mobile & Samsung logo in the front, and the other only has the Samsung logo
the tmo version also has a tmo customized boot animation, the telus version is plain samsung boot animation
tmo verison has extra tmo broadware apps, the telus version has only one extra broatware (Groupon)
which would you go for?
will you pay the extra $ for the unbranded version?

The one with bloatware crap that might get WiFi calling at some point.

I like the telus one less branding and bigger space to press the capacitive buttons. The Bloat can be removed with root. I wonder when samsung going to drop source code for this phone. Sprint and At&t already versions already have source code slightly before phones come out. Android police and engadget have already reviewed the tmobile samsung galaxy 2.

Why not just wait on the HD version of the phone? Although I'm not sure when that will be out.

vapotrini said:
Why not just wait on the HD version of the phone? Although I'm not sure when that will be out.
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the HD version is not AWS compatible

Hmm well do you really want to pay $150 more for the branding because everything else will go away when rooted

Dark lord me said:
Hmm well do you really want to pay $150 more for the branding because everything else will go away when rooted
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Save the extra dough and put it towards something else to play with and go for the Tmo version.

mistamikel said:
Save the extra dough and put it towards something else to play with and go for the Tmo version.
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wow, if it weren't for the galaxy note coming out, I would definitely get the T-mobile version.
Really good pricing

go with the Tmobil version!!

People are saying the battery life is the worst on the t-mobile galaxy 2. I think its all that badly programmed bloatware on that phone. Also the phone is taking in lte speeds which means the phone uses more power to pull in data. It shows to say lte is over hyped. I think the adreno 220 is overclocked in this phone as well.

Good thing you can usually turn 4g off...

root will be around fast enough ...hell if they can unlock a phone on this site before the actual compny that produces it can i think root will be attainable in no time. save the money and get the tmo version. you can always call tmobile and have it unlocked for free

j0hnZ said:
Good thing you can usually turn 4g off...
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But hspa+ is 3g so if you turn it off you get edge. Ironically edge speeds on tmobile are faster than at&t 3g speeds.

Dec 7, 1pm Canada release, is this the GSM or CDMA / LTE version

is this the GSM or CDMA / LTE version?
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according to the Bestbuy Ad it is the i9250m or HSI925BR

Since it's for Bell and Virigin in Canada, it can only possibly be the GSM/HSPA+ version. The CDMA/LTE model is specific to Verizon and won't work for anyone else.

i can almost bet damn Bell will not sell those phones without a contract like Telus / Rogers did with launch phones

Yep... no chance you'll get it off contract, pretty sure of that lol.
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i can almost bet damn Bell will not sell those phones without a contract like Telus / Rogers did with launch phones
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Hopefully some Canadian friends will find out for us if this thing has microSD slot, because Samsung Ca website list that it does, but BestBuy Ca website doesn't say so.

I just got back from bell and put my $50.00 deposit and yes there are selling the phone outright. $649.00 and it's 16gb..

Does anybody know if the Canada version will have Tmobile USA 3G/4G bands? I'm thinking it may be cheaper overall to buy the Canada version then it would the UK/International version.
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Base on Samsung and BestBuy Canadian site, it do support the 1700 and 2100 HSPA bands.

eksasol said:
Hopefully some Canadian friends will find out for us if this thing has microSD slot, because Samsung Ca website list that it does, but BestBuy Ca website doesn't say so.
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I'm using the phone right now. There's no external memory slots.

I talked to Bell about 2 days ago, you have to be already a Bell customer or a new customer on a new contract, to buy. They will not sell outright at least for the first month of sales.

Bad Liar said:
I'm using the phone right now. There's no external memory slots.
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this was expected, it'd have been real cool if it did include it though

I'm planning on buying on Thursday and using my Telus SIM. I don't mind buying a 30 Day for $30 to get it a month early. I'm already paying $649.99 plus taxes for the phone. What's $30 after that?
What I am hearing is some confusion as to whether Bell is locking the phones. I thought that was just them assuming, until I heard that some UK carriers had locked them too. Has anyone heard anything definite about locked/unlocked?

I'm gonna guess they'll be unlocked but I have no solid information, just using the Nexus S last year as a proxy (was never sold locked in Canada despite what the carriers said).
Also it might be easier to get it from Virgin Mobile if you want to just buy it outright, which is what I'll try - their supertab or whatever dumb thing they call it then just cancel immediately after.

why cant verizon make ad like that and post it on their website ughhh i am getting sick of verizon

i wouldn't be worried about the SIM lock
you can always go online to have it unlocked
heck even just across the street inside Eaton Center lower level there's a cell phone kiosk there that does unlocking

I hope that's not the case. I'd much rather get it from Canada than from across the pond.

They won't be locked.

If you buy if from Futureshop or Best Buy you will be able to buy it outright. If you go to a Bell store they won't let you buy it without signing up for at least one month of service.

Not according to this...
http://community.futureshop.ca/t5/T...y-Nexus-previews-Android-s-future/ba-p/330548
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If you buy if from Futureshop or Best Buy you will be able to buy it outright. If you go to a Bell store they won't let you buy it without signing up for at least one month of service.
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Probably another 35 or so for "activation fee" if you do that. I think they only waive the fee for new contracts.
Prof-KOS said:
I'm planning on buying on Thursday and using my Telus SIM. I don't mind buying a 30 Day for $30 to get it a month early. I'm already paying $649.99 plus taxes for the phone. What's $30 after that?
What I am hearing is some confusion as to whether Bell is locking the phones. I thought that was just them assuming, until I heard that some UK carriers had locked them too. Has anyone heard anything definite about locked/unlocked?
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Is the Verizon branded HTC 10 Unlocked?

I canceled my unlocked pre order that i was going to use on my AT&T account when they told me end of May early June before it ships. I was wondering is the Verizon branded one fully functional out the box for att like a lot of their other phones are? If so just gonna go in and buy one for 648

I don't think it is. The T-Mobile one probably is, though.

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I don't think it is. The T-Mobile one probably is, though.
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It indeed is unlocked. I have access to a cricket sim. I put the sim in, the phone informed me that it wasn't a verizon sim. I cleared the message, entered the cricket apn and indeed it worked. I am able to place phone calls and surf the web. Signal is HSPA, so maybe the radios are different???

All Verizon LTE devices are sim unlocked I believe
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rsa 329 said:
It indeed is unlocked. I have access to a cricket sim. I put the sim in, the phone informed me that it wasn't a verizon sim. I cleared the message, entered the cricket apn and indeed it worked. I am able to place phone calls and surf the web. Signal is HSPA, so maybe the radios are different???
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thank you

I stand corrected. This is awesome news as I have to purchase mine through BestBuy, and currently all they have are Verizon and Sprint.
I was to they'd receive unlocked but who knows.

DonJuan23 said:
I canceled my unlocked pre order that i was going to use on my AT&T account when they told me end of May early June before it ships. I was wondering is the Verizon branded one fully functional out the box for att like a lot of their other phones are? If so just gonna go in and buy one for 648
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IT is sim unlocked, but you will be limited using it on GSM networks, some features will behave wonky, and it will be missing some bands. Buy an unlocked one.
As far as teh bootloader.........maybe soon

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IT is sim unlocked, but you will be limited using it on GSM networks, some features will behave wonky, and it will be missing some bands. Buy an unlocked one.
As far as teh bootloader.........maybe soon
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+1 that's a terrible idea
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I really want the Verizon HTC 10, I have the LG G4 on VZW now which to this day still doesn't have bootloader unlocked and I hate that. I will wait to see if the VZW HTC 10 can have its bootloader unlocked so I can finally go back to having a customer recovery and ROMs.

For Verizon HTC 10 can unlock GSM....
Ho about LTE unlocked?
Its support LTE Band such LTE band 3 and 8?
Thanks

adrs168 said:
For Verizon HTC 10 can unlock GSM....
Ho about LTE unlocked?
Its support LTE Band such LTE band 3 and 8?
Thanks
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https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/htc-10/
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..

Z2 force T-mobile on AT&T

There are some surprisingly good deals for the Moto Z2 force on Swappa, but only for the T-mobile edition. My carrier is AT&T. Will the phone work with just an AT&T SIM?

Speaking from experience only... I always buy Verizon at best buy for full price... When I sold my s8 to a co-worker his at&t sim worked 100%. Now my sim is attached to a buisnesss account so that might help in the unlocking process but I'm pretty sure all Verizon phones are sim unlocked.
I don't think others like at&t/TMobile have easy ways to unlock the sim... It's doable but prbly a hassle

GroovyGeek said:
There are some surprisingly good deals for the Moto Z2 force on Swappa, but only for the T-mobile edition. My carrier is AT&T. Will the phone work with just an AT&T SIM?
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It will work but be prepared for a fight to get it unlocked. Best way to think about it is to add $110 to whatever the price of the phone is. You will have to activate a T-Mobile prepaid account, add over $100, request an unlock, wait AT LEAST 4 days then pray your request is granted.
I recently went through this exact process and from the time I bought the phone to the time it was SIM Unlocked took just under two weeks. Because I purchased the phone from a third party and it didn't show up in TMobile's system it was not eligible for an unlock.
I spent literally hours on the phone with customer service from both T-Mobile and Motorola, to no avail. I tried third party unlock sites which also didn't work. Finally a member here recommended contacting T-Mobile via Twitter. This was by far the most helpful anyone had been and I was able to get the phone unlocked.
After I went through all of this trouble I still ended up selling the phone. There was nothing wrong with it, the gray just wasn't my thing and I wanted the black one. After SIM and bootloader unlocking it I was able to break even and I'm using the T-Mobile SIM in an old phone as a hotspot exclusively to game on.
Truly the best deal on a z2 force right now is to start a new line with Sprint at Best buy. I'm paying $16.34/month for 24 months with $0 down payment. That works out to $392 total. At that price this is absolutely the best phone for the money.
I've read all of the people who are unhappy with Sprint and say they have terrible reception but where I'm at (Midwest) I have had 4-5 bars of LTE all the time. That's better than Att.
What I will have to agree on is the slower network speeds. It's not a HUGE difference like some people say but it is noticable. Personally I'll gladly take a slightly slower but more reliable connection and save $40 bucks a month.
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Thanks for the feedback. This is exactly what I was afraid of. I can't switch to a different network. Both my wife and daughter have grandfathered unlimited iPhone accounts with AT&T as well as a healthy corporate discount, and financially the switch to any other carrier makes no sense. My Nexus 6p died last night and I have been debating between the Pixel XL, Oneplus 5, and Z2 force.

GroovyGeek said:
Thanks for the feedback. This is exactly what I was afraid of. I can't switch to a different network. Both my wife and daughter have grandfathered unlimited iPhone accounts with AT&T as well as a healthy corporate discount, and financially the switch to any other carrier makes no sense. My Nexus 6p died last night and I have been debating between the Pixel XL, Oneplus 5, and Z2 force.
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I understand that. I've been on Att since 2007. It still feels weird seeing Sprint in the status bar and boot screen. However, buying this phone from Att is a huge rip off. They're charging OVER msrp and the bootloader is locked down.
If I were in your shoes I'd look into this: https://www.phonearena.com/news/Goo...h-Pixel-XLs-but-only-in-North-America_id98059
After dropping and cracking my old Sony Xperia I am all about that shattershield screen. The only other thing close to that with modern specs is the s8 active and that's an Att exclusive, feels cheap, looks awful and cost more than Att's z2! I hate using cases but in my line of work I need durable equipment. If I were smart I'd be using a $20 flip phone but I've been using a smartphone since windows mobile, Palm and blackberry were all still relevant (or even around)

When Did SnapDragon Bootloader Get Unlocked? Or Is This Article BS?

Ran across a article written on June 17th
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Is this for real or just clickbait?
Source: https://www.goandroid.co.in/unlock-bootloader-of-galaxy-s9-plus-snapdragon/84688/

Certainly not the US version but if the OEM unlock option is available in settings then I guess it's possible on the few other places that got the snapdragon.

Tel864 said:
Certainly not the US version but if the OEM unlock option is available in settings then I guess it's possible on the few other places that got the snapdragon.
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The author made a comment claiming that the OEM Unlock will appear if the phone is left on for a week. Check it out.
I don't think that is correct though. I'm pretty sure my S9 has been left on for over a week and it hasn't appeared.

zzEvilGeniuszz said:
The author made a comment claiming that the OEM Unlock will appear if the phone is left on for a week. Check it out.
I don't think that is correct though. I'm pretty sure my S9 has been left on for over a week and it hasn't appeared.
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its not for U or U1 variants... at the same time, the site is not BS because HK/China and LATIN AMERICA devices are also snapdragon..
just bcuz it says snapdragon doesnt mean its USA variants

Why is USA s9/s9+ locked but others are not this seems like Sammy fell into carrier bs making them a bad brand for me I will be buying other brands b4 I'm ever locked down again..
Root ok I can deal with out if need to be but this not able to use Hotspot is driving me crazy to a point I'm considering sim unlocking my HTC 10 and going back to that this is insain
elliwigy said:
its not for U or U1 variants... at the same time, the site is not BS because HK/China and LATIN AMERICA devices are also snapdragon..
just bcuz it says snapdragon doesnt mean its USA variants
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Can confirm, my SM-G9600/DS (Hong Kong Snapdragon S9), has OEM unlock option in developer settings.

kushman said:
Why is USA s9/s9+ locked but others are not this seems like Sammy fell into carrier bs making them a bad brand for me I will be buying other brands b4 I'm ever locked down again..
Root ok I can deal with out if need to be but this not able to use Hotspot is driving me crazy to a point I'm considering sim unlocking my HTC 10 and going back to that this is insain
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you can use hotspot, pay for it lol
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I am a strong beleave I shouldn't have to pay to use Hotspot due to the Corp world already limits amount data we recieve why would I pay more for same limited data if it was truly unlimited that's a diff story but being they con the customer already I'm a strong beleave in hacking it
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you can use hotspot, pay for it lol
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kushman said:
I am a strong beleave I shouldn't have to pay to use Hotspot due to the Corp world already limits amount data we recieve why would I pay more for same limited data if it was truly unlimited that's a diff story but being they con the customer already I'm a strong beleave in hacking it
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tgey provide a service.. you chooseto use it ornot is the point..

elliwigy said:
tgey provide a service.. you chooseto use it ornot is the point..
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A lot of people seem to forget this... If you COO you would do the same. No matter what your mind says. Besides you have the lives of thousand of employees. Millions of share holders that are banking you'll grow and be profitable.

Well nothing on mine Canadian version. NO OEM Unlock

I have a Samsung Galaxy A01 (SM-A015M/DS) Latin American version, Region Panama, with Snapdragon processor. My experience posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-root-device-samsung-galaxy-a01-t4167509
The OEM UNLOCK appears but all of the usual unlock proccedure produces no Bootloader Unlock when it resets.