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Bestbuy launches Verizon Gnex page. $299

I knew that 199 was a joke !
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/news/best-buy-launches-nexus-prime-product-page-with-299-price/?v

"Reg $799"
As someone who isn't up for a contract price on AT&T, I'm glad I imported mine for $729. I knew it was the right choice! Plus who the heck knows when/if AT&T will even get the GNEX...

BiGMERF said:
I knew that 199 was a joke !
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/news/best-buy-launches-nexus-prime-product-page-with-299-price/?v
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And they inflated the MSRP by $150.

Balthazar B said:
And they inflated the MSRP by $150.
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That's typical best buy.. buying it outright from the carrier is always cheaper than what best buy charges.

ericshmerick said:
"Reg $799"
As someone who isn't up for a contract price on AT&T, I'm glad I imported mine for $729. I knew it was the right choice! Plus who the heck knows when/if AT&T will even get the GNEX...
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That's the Best Buy price, I imagine it will be $699 for the 32gb from Verizon. I kinda wish I waited although I'll be gone for over a month.

Andrmgic said:
That's typical best buy.. buying it outright from the carrier is always cheaper than what best buy charges.
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im positive it will be 299 there too.. but your right the outright price should be cheaper at Verizon. but i dont see it being 150 cheaper

They don't even say if it's the 16 or 32 GB version..

gabster21 said:
They don't even say if it's the 16 or 32 GB version..
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Knowing Best Buy, it's probably the 8 GB version.

Balthazar B said:
Knowing Best Buy, it's probably the 8 GB version.
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LOL!!!
I have no doubt it's the 32GB version. I don't think it will cost that much on Verizon though. However I was willing to pay close to that for shipping it overnight from Espansys so, I would pay it for a 32GB model.

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They don't even say if it's the 16 or 32 GB version..
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There is no 16gb version for Verizon, only 32
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rashad1 said:
There is no 16gb version for Verizon, only 32
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I see.. I wish they would hurry up and release the 32GB sim-free version so I can order it! Probably going to take months to arrive here and like they did for the SGS they will "arabize" it for the middle east which I hate (the arabization, not the middle-east )

ericshmerick said:
"Reg $799"
As someone who isn't up for a contract price on AT&T, I'm glad I imported mine for $729. I knew it was the right choice! Plus who the heck knows when/if AT&T will even get the GNEX...
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Best Buy's off contract Verizon phones are usually quite expensive. That $799 price is being inflated by Best Buy. Anyone thats going to buy this phone off contract should just get it from Verizon, probably a bit cheaper.

martonikaj said:
Best Buy's off contract Verizon phones are usually quite expensive. That $799 price is being inflated by Best Buy. Anyone thats going to buy this phone off contract should just get it from Verizon, probably a bit cheaper.
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Doesn't BB price match though? If so you should technically be able to get it for whatever Verizon sells it for off contract.

martonikaj said:
Best Buy's off contract Verizon phones are usually quite expensive. That $799 price is being inflated by Best Buy. Anyone thats going to buy this phone off contract should just get it from Verizon, probably a bit cheaper.
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I have no inside knowledge, but my hunch is that VzW's off-contract price will be about $650. And I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon sells it at a subsidized price of $150 before the end of this year.

Balthazar B said:
I have no inside knowledge, but my hunch is that VzW's off-contract price will be about $650. And I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon sells it at a subsidized price of $150 before the end of this year.
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Yep Amazon often offers lower up-front prices and adds another ETF to your contract.

qreffie said:
Doesn't BB price match though? If so you should technically be able to get it for whatever Verizon sells it for off contract.
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they never price match carrier out the door pricing. neither does walmart. i tried with other phones..lol

Hopefully amazon will have a lower price. Also costco is usually cheaper or they throw in accessories. We got my wife's stratosphere for $30 with accessories vs $150 at Verizon. They had the razr for $289 with a dock and car kit.
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I wouldn't trust that Verizon flyer. It states the Epic comes with a 32gb micro sd card......it doesn't.
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cbpagent72 said:
I wouldn't trust that Verizon flyer. It states the Epic comes with a 32gb micro sd card......it doesn't.
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You mean best buy?
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I fully expected the $299 price...but I'm still getting it anyway..Luckily the family all got HTC Thunderbolt upgrades for free during Black Friday, which leaves more money for me to go all out on the GnEx!

[Q] Where can I buy a T-Mobile SGH-T999?

Hi, I'm in Canada on Wind Mobile. Can anyone tell me where I can buy a T-Mobile SGH-T999. T-Mobile won't sell to Canadian residents and ship to Canada. I couldn't find anything on ebay with a reputable seller, and Expansys has nothing as well. Really would like to pick up this phone right away.

there isnt really anywhere else you can purchase it, if i were you i would just buy the international version, the only carrier ones that i could find were the telus and att versions.
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Since you're in Canada, you can get the SGH-T999V which is for Canada.
WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, Videotron and some of the other companies should have it. I just checked Videotron and Mobilicity website for instance and their specs don't let LTE so you should be good to go.
http://pages.samsung.com/ca/galaxysiii/English/ (click on BUY).
The advantage I would see with SGH-T999/V is that it would be like a pentaband phone. Other than that, I would probably get the international version and get full quad core power assuming you're on a provider which is using the international frequencies.

Sango2 said:
Since you're in Canada, you can get the SGH-T999V which is for Canada.
WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, Videotron and some of the other companies should have it. I just checked Videotron and Mobilicity website for instance and their specs don't let LTE so you should be good to go.
http://pages.samsung.com/ca/galaxysiii/English/ (click on BUY).
The advantage I would see with SGH-T999/V is that it would be like a pentaband phone. Other than that, I would probably get the international version and get full quad core power assuming you're on a provider which is using the international frequencies.
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That link takes you to the Carrier's website. In my case that would be Wind Mobile. But they will not sell one outright to an existing customer or even let an existing customer upgrade. Currently Wind Mobile says the SGS3 is only for new customer activation at the moment. Wind Mobile works on the same frequencies as T-Mobile, so that is why I was hoping to get a T-Mobile version, SGH-T999. But even though Wind Mobile and T-Mobile phones are interchangeable to use on both networks, they do not share the same ROMs. The T-Mobile Version of the Galaxy S3 will more than likely get better developer support for custom ROMs. It was the same way with the Galaxy S 4G. The Wind mobile version of the Galaxy S 4G (SGH-T959W) has no developer support and is not able to run the same ROMs as the T-Mobile version (SGH-T959V). So I'm gonna play it safe and get a T-Mobile Galaxy S3.
Unfortunately for me, the international version of the Galaxy S3 will not work on my carrier. If it did, there would be no hesitation in buying one, as this version can be found unlocked almost anywhere online. I really wished Sammy made this phone pentaband like the Galaxy Nexus.

you can always find it on ebay

dantemp said:
That link takes you to the Carrier's website. In my case that would be Wind Mobile. But they will not sell one outright to an existing customer or even let an existing customer upgrade. Currently Wind Mobile says the SGS3 is only for new customer activation at the moment. Wind Mobile works on the same frequencies as T-Mobile, so that is why I was hoping to get a T-Mobile version, SGH-T999. But even though Wind Mobile and T-Mobile phones are interchangeable to use on both networks, they do not share the same ROMs. The T-Mobile Version of the Galaxy S3 will more than likely get better developer support for custom ROMs. It was the same way with the Galaxy S 4G. The Wind mobile version of the Galaxy S 4G (SGH-T959W) has no developer support and is not able to run the same ROMs as the T-Mobile version (SGH-T959V). So I'm gonna play it safe and get a T-Mobile Galaxy S3.
Unfortunately for me, the international version of the Galaxy S3 will not work on my carrier. If it did, there would be no hesitation in buying one, as this version can be found unlocked almost anywhere online. I really wished Sammy made this phone pentaband like the Galaxy Nexus.
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Ok, I see thanks. I was not aware of that since I have mainly purchased international phones and never really looked at carriers.
Could you switch providers which use international frequencies? I actually stopped by T-Mobile a few days ago and asked if they had the S3; they said no but they had a store unit bolted on a security thing so I used it. I showed them the international version which I had in my hand (with aluminum battery case and bumper) and said the custom stuff made it look sick!
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[Q] Which Model(s) Should I Buy Out of Contract for Unlocked use with AT&T

I have decided (if it is inexpensive enough) to purchase a Note 4 off-contract for use with AT&T.
My question is: which models are compatible with AT&T, in all respects. I don't want to sacrifice legitimate LTE connectivity, and I've read elsewhere that some of the factory-unlocked models don't play well with AT&T's LTE network, depending on where you live.
Obviously, my motivation for going this route is to get around the ongoing battle of AT&T locking the bootloaders on all of their Samsung devices, and given that I've had my S4 for 2 years with no unlock in sight...I'm never ever willing to go through 2 years of having a locked bootloader again.

Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2962920 as the T-Mobile appears to have all the necessary bands needed for use on ATT.

RockRatt said:
Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2962920 as the T-Mobile appears to have all the necessary bands needed for use on ATT.
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It certainly doesn't have ALL the necessary bands, but you could argue that it has enough of them

T-Mobile
I have the T-mobile version and AT&T version of the Note 4. The T-mobile version works as good or the same compared to the at&t phone. The only issue i had was a few calls to at&t to stop them from seeing it as a blackberry. once that was fixed I've had zero issues whatsoever. Your mileage might vary depending upon what bands your area uses. If i had to do it again, i would most defiantly only buy the T-mobile version of the Note 4. My AT&T version is just a spare $852 paperweight sitting in the drawer due to the locked bootloader. Not to mention the T-Mobile version is $100 less on costs. Oh well i guess i have a spare screen just in case.

I would think the att version would be cheaper than T-Mobile because T-Mobile has unlocked bootloader. Why do you need unlocked boot loader? For Roms?

stevenj05 said:
I would think the att version would be cheaper than T-Mobile because T-Mobile has unlocked bootloader. Why do you need unlocked boot loader? For Roms?
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AT&T version is way more expensive on full price.
Unlocked bootloader for full root, kernel, twrp, rom support.
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AT&T version is way more expensive on full price.
Unlocked bootloader for full root, kernel, twrp, rom support.
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Ahh. No need to buy from carrier. Bought from another site and att let me add insurance on it. Plus note 5 around the corner so maybe wait and get tmobile one from carrier even cheaper

Maybe. I'm using square trade for warranty. It's $5 month with a deductible of only $75. But yup. I have AT&T version and T-Mobile phone. I bought both on payments.
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Maybe. I'm using square trade for warranty. It's $5 month with a deductible of only $75. But yup. I have AT&T version and T-Mobile phone. I bought both on payments.
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I like square trade and would recommend it but it doesn't cover stolen/lost phones. And they always have a good deal like $100 for 2 year warranty.

Z2 force T-mobile on AT&T

There are some surprisingly good deals for the Moto Z2 force on Swappa, but only for the T-mobile edition. My carrier is AT&T. Will the phone work with just an AT&T SIM?

Speaking from experience only... I always buy Verizon at best buy for full price... When I sold my s8 to a co-worker his at&t sim worked 100%. Now my sim is attached to a buisnesss account so that might help in the unlocking process but I'm pretty sure all Verizon phones are sim unlocked.
I don't think others like at&t/TMobile have easy ways to unlock the sim... It's doable but prbly a hassle

GroovyGeek said:
There are some surprisingly good deals for the Moto Z2 force on Swappa, but only for the T-mobile edition. My carrier is AT&T. Will the phone work with just an AT&T SIM?
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It will work but be prepared for a fight to get it unlocked. Best way to think about it is to add $110 to whatever the price of the phone is. You will have to activate a T-Mobile prepaid account, add over $100, request an unlock, wait AT LEAST 4 days then pray your request is granted.
I recently went through this exact process and from the time I bought the phone to the time it was SIM Unlocked took just under two weeks. Because I purchased the phone from a third party and it didn't show up in TMobile's system it was not eligible for an unlock.
I spent literally hours on the phone with customer service from both T-Mobile and Motorola, to no avail. I tried third party unlock sites which also didn't work. Finally a member here recommended contacting T-Mobile via Twitter. This was by far the most helpful anyone had been and I was able to get the phone unlocked.
After I went through all of this trouble I still ended up selling the phone. There was nothing wrong with it, the gray just wasn't my thing and I wanted the black one. After SIM and bootloader unlocking it I was able to break even and I'm using the T-Mobile SIM in an old phone as a hotspot exclusively to game on.
Truly the best deal on a z2 force right now is to start a new line with Sprint at Best buy. I'm paying $16.34/month for 24 months with $0 down payment. That works out to $392 total. At that price this is absolutely the best phone for the money.
I've read all of the people who are unhappy with Sprint and say they have terrible reception but where I'm at (Midwest) I have had 4-5 bars of LTE all the time. That's better than Att.
What I will have to agree on is the slower network speeds. It's not a HUGE difference like some people say but it is noticable. Personally I'll gladly take a slightly slower but more reliable connection and save $40 bucks a month.
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Thanks for the feedback. This is exactly what I was afraid of. I can't switch to a different network. Both my wife and daughter have grandfathered unlimited iPhone accounts with AT&T as well as a healthy corporate discount, and financially the switch to any other carrier makes no sense. My Nexus 6p died last night and I have been debating between the Pixel XL, Oneplus 5, and Z2 force.

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Thanks for the feedback. This is exactly what I was afraid of. I can't switch to a different network. Both my wife and daughter have grandfathered unlimited iPhone accounts with AT&T as well as a healthy corporate discount, and financially the switch to any other carrier makes no sense. My Nexus 6p died last night and I have been debating between the Pixel XL, Oneplus 5, and Z2 force.
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I understand that. I've been on Att since 2007. It still feels weird seeing Sprint in the status bar and boot screen. However, buying this phone from Att is a huge rip off. They're charging OVER msrp and the bootloader is locked down.
If I were in your shoes I'd look into this: https://www.phonearena.com/news/Goo...h-Pixel-XLs-but-only-in-North-America_id98059
After dropping and cracking my old Sony Xperia I am all about that shattershield screen. The only other thing close to that with modern specs is the s8 active and that's an Att exclusive, feels cheap, looks awful and cost more than Att's z2! I hate using cases but in my line of work I need durable equipment. If I were smart I'd be using a $20 flip phone but I've been using a smartphone since windows mobile, Palm and blackberry were all still relevant (or even around)

Using an unlocked variant on Verizon?

I don't know what the hardware differences are between the different carriers' models. Can I use either of the bootloader-unlockable/rootable variants (Sprint or T-Mo) on Verizon?
Failing that, has anyone started a bounty to get Verizon rooted and/or bootloader-unlocked?

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I don't know what the hardware differences are between the different carriers' models. Can I use either of the bootloader-unlockable/rootable variants (Sprint or T-Mo) on Verizon?
Failing that, has anyone started a bounty to get Verizon rooted and/or bootloader-unlocked?
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I started one for Att but have since given up and switched to Sprint. So far I regret nothing. I guess being the two biggest carriers Att and Verizon have a little more push on what manufacturers can and can't do.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the T-Mobile model will work if you're lucky/patient enough to get it unlocked.

svtdragon said:
I don't know what the hardware differences are between the different carriers' models. Can I use either of the bootloader-unlockable/rootable variants (Sprint or T-Mo) on Verizon?
Failing that, has anyone started a bounty to get Verizon rooted and/or bootloader-unlocked?
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From looking at the spec sheets only the Verizon version will work on Verizon. All the other versions doesn't support band 13 by model numbers that in itself gives Verizon the power to block it even if you hack to unlock band 13.
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Freaking Verizon really pisses me off, because I'm kinda stuck with them...
I've been with them for about 11 or 12 years or so and I'm grandfathered in on a very old unlimited data plan that's pretty cheap by today's standard and this being a flagship phone and all...
Anyway I had the pixel XL first and returned it because even it was locked down and got the z2 force just because of the moto mods.
Yeah VZW kinda sux...

47th_Ronin said:
Freaking Verizon really pisses me off, because I'm kinda stuck with them...
I've been with them for about 11 or 12 years or so and I'm grandfathered in on a very old unlimited data plan that's pretty cheap by today's standard and this being a flagship phone and all...
Anyway I had the pixel XL first and returned it because even it was locked down and got the z2 force just because of the moto mods.
Yeah VZW kinda sux...
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The problem is OEMs. They don't want to put in band 13 on all their devices. If they did then Verizon has to comply with Block C rules. Since OEMs don't want to pay for licensing and put in code that Verizon has to open source. They would rather have Verizon pay for it then that comes with restrictions.
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So I just checked Moto Z2 Force official site again and unless I'm mistaken they're now selling an unlocked model with VZW support.

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So I just checked Moto Z2 Force official site again and unless I'm mistaken they're now selling an unlocked model with VZW support.
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Went to try and buy the Z2 Force and this is what I am able to buy.
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Went to try and buy the Z2 Force and this is what I am able to buy.
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The page title at https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-edition-gen-2 says "unlocked," but interestingly I can't find any use of that term anywhere on the page itself. Go figure.

jdrch said:
The page title at https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-edition-gen-2 says "unlocked," but interestingly I can't find any use of that term anywhere on the page itself. Go figure.
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It will be SIM unlocked BUT you will have to pick a carrier and it will have the carrier goodies built in. There's no unlocked one without the carrier bloat and built in features. You have to pick Verizon to get it on Verizon iirc, but anywhere you buy the Verizon version it's unlocked anyway.
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Tidbits said:
It will be SIM unlocked BUT you will have to pick a carrier and it will have the carrier goodies built in. There's no unlocked one without the carrier bloat and built in features. You have to pick Verizon to get it on Verizon iirc, but anywhere you buy the Verizon version it's unlocked anyway.
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Ah OK. I just ordered one from Best Buy due to their $200 off offer which makes the phone $550something in total payments. That, IMO, makes it the best value for money right now.

jdrch said:
Ah OK. I just ordered one from Best Buy due to their $200 off offer which makes the phone $550something in total payments. That, IMO, makes it the best value for money right now.
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If you want to Rom and root the T-Mobile and Sprint version is the way to go, but sadly those won't go on Verizon.
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Tidbits said:
If you want to Rom and root the T-Mobile and Sprint version is the way to go, but sadly those won't go on Verizon.
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I live in IA. T-Mobile has no offices near me and Sprint loses service as soon as you get more than 20 miles out of town. Verizon is my only option for reliable service, sadly.

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I live in IA. T-Mobile has no offices near me and Sprint loses service as soon as you get more than 20 miles out of town. Verizon is my only option for reliable service, sadly.
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Best bet is go to Walmart and buy a cheap prepaid phone. Test it out where you travel a lot. Make some calls do some data. If everything is legit switch to T-Mobile if not you are not out much. That's what I did and I am glad i did. Saved myself $150 A month AND I can choose any device I want.
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Tidbits said:
Best bet is go to Walmart and buy a cheap prepaid phone. Test it out where you travel a lot. Make some calls do some data. If everything is legit switch to T-Mobile if not you are not out much. That's what I did and I am glad i did. Saved myself $150 A month AND I can choose any device I want.
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Appreciate the suggestion.