Let's be honest we all want the latest android but will LG update this tab that's less than a year old to Android L.
Or would you actually prefer to get a custom rom of Android L and get closer to vanilla android anyway. Thoughts? Comments? Leaks?
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I doubt they will update...just a feeling. I would love to update to vanilla or aosp based ROM, but ultimately I need access to the GRemote app, so will probably stick with modified stock. If anyone gets the remote working with AOSP (I've tried the apk's on xda already), I'm flashing a vanilla-ish ROM asap.
I really wish that the device producers would unlock the device if the decision had been made to discontinue support. Granted it isn't too hard to get a custom recovery for this device, but I still wish it was standing policy to let the developers completely loose after a certain amount of time had passed on the devices... An unlocked bootloader after they discontinue support would be nice!
Now, to be on topic... I think we have a better than 50% chance to see an official L on the V500 and I hope we do.
the v510 will mostlikely get android L so there will be v500 custom rom android L versions
Trouble is lg rom while it has good features is terrible to use compared to stock android and I can't see them doing a good job with android L. They basically copy Samsung. For this reason I'm much happier with a custom rom. Just wish manufacture's would leave android alone. It doesn't need their help.
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Does anyone think an Android L preview nexus 5 port is possible for the LG G Pad???
#rockiequestion
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Does anyone think an Android L preview nexus 5 port is possible for the LG G Pad???
#rockiequestion
I think a port of the nexus 7 L preview would be our best bet, both snapdragon 600 and both have 1920x1200 resolution
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I think a port of the nexus 7 L preview would be our best bet, both snapdragon 600 and both have 1920x1200 resolution[/QUOTE]
Anyone know a Nexus 7 developer that has a LG G Pad??? Might be good to start talking sweety to them. Must admit from what I hear I'm getting excited about Android L.
Just need a moto 360 to match.
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I think if the GPE gets updated to Lollipop, we have a chance of getting an official update as LG will get the new kernel code or something like that! The gpe is already being updated to 4.4.4. Let's hope we also get it as it fixes heartbleed and other security issues
It's really good that we are getting official little updates for our tablets which is way much better than any other tablets which more often than not will never get an update
This might be a little easier than a port androidpolice.com/2014/07/01/android-l-preview-source-code-going-live-aosp-includes-support-nexus-4-5-7-2013-10/?a=1
I got mixed feelings regarding the matter... On one hand, it should provide a better, smoother experience overall. However from what I heard, its using the ART as the default runtime... Not sure if they will still have the dalvik as an optional RT (logically it should as most apps are still incompatible with ART). Hopefully the devs make their apps compatible, or that the L have an optional Dalvik RT to maximize compatibility.
That said, I am wondering. if there is a way to use ART on one app and Dalvik on another app at the same time... Probably not.
The new version of ART is backwards compatible with dalvik apps. They won't get the benefits in performance from the new runtime, but all apps should work.
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The new version of ART is backwards compatible with dalvik apps. They won't get the benefits in performance from the new runtime, but all apps should work.
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That's comforting to know. The only downside I see to this is that developers might see little reason to make their app "ART-ified" because its backwards compatible anyway. Either way, the new interface, though beta, sure looks purty. Ofcourse OEM's will find a way to mess it up. Excited to test out the first custom roms that will come out of it.
I think that will be update to Android L (if it start officialy at the end of year) due 18 months policy update, but it will be last.
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I think that will be update to Android L (if it start officialy at the end of year) due 18 months policy update, but it will be last.
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didn't know that they also follow that 18 month support for updates. hopefully they make good on it as I have heard they aren't too good when it comes to providing updates for their devices
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didn't know that they also follow that 18 month support for updates. hopefully they make good on it as I have heard they aren't too good when it comes to providing updates for their devices
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Well we had 1 major and 1 minor update in 8 months. I think it is better then before.
Problem is not the G Pad 8.3, which is an awesome device. Problem is LG is slooooow on updates...
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Looks like most major carriers will get the G2. It is at the top of my list right now so i thought i would pick the previous generations brain on the Updates and Source release's for the phone. Anyone mind sharing some input on how often and fast Updates for this phone roll out and the delay time for source code. I come from HTC and with their poor attempts to fix my Thunderbolt and the fact they canceled any future updates for the One S just a few weeks ago i have decided it will be a long time before i choose another HTC device. (Although i would LOVE a phone with front facing speakers.)
If you know anything about Updates / Source please post your idea of speed development and source releases and your carrier.
Thanks in advance!
They suck... for short. 9 months this phone is out same as Android 4.2 and they still can't update. Go for Sony or wait for the the next Nexus 5. Better the Nexus 5. As good as the G2 will be... updates suck...... i don't know if i.will keep the G much longer, i rather choose the good updates and custom Ron of the Z or the ONE. Samsung sucks as well... they only update the good phones which are 2-3 of 100 they out every year. The S4 the S3 and the Note 2 and there are/will be far better phones in a couple of months. The next Sony, the next Nexus even the Note 3 will be better except for the Exynos which sucks in support for custom Roms.
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Sony good with updates? Pffft good luck with that.
If you want updates go for a Nexus. I wouldn't go for another phone if updates bothered me that much.
Luckily the Gs stock ROM is blazing fast, so I don't see the need for a big update. But that's just me.
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Sony good with updates? Pffft good luck with that.
If you want updates go for a Nexus. I wouldn't go for another phone if updates bothered me that much.
Luckily the Gs stock ROM is blazing fast, so I don't see the need for a big update. But that's just me.
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Yes. I know last year's Sony phone were not that updated but that's more because Qualcomm does not support the S3 chipset anymore and won't give drivers. But they made steps in the right direction in 2013. The level of custom ROMS is healthy, and they are stable (compared to other), they have their own AOSP project.... i don't see why he shouldn't choose the future Sony Honami with the 800 Snadragon and 20 MP camera, over the LG G2.
I know the Nexus will always be the best choice but sometimes you want a little more storage or better camera, or... so you should at least look at others.
I didn't even talk about the G2, I just said Sony updates suck. That's a fact. I know that since muy last two phones were Sony...
Sure, Honami will be a beast. But if I were concerned about updates I wouldn't consider it.
That's just my opinion based on my experience.
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i read an article that LG is gonna come out with a new device called LG - Gx wich has the exact same specs as the LG g pro with a little less PPI (401ppi) but with the new jelly bean OS ,
this is more than enough for anyone who has respect for his money to say no in the future to any LG cellular device,
money hungry company who gives a crap and puts even more crap on their costumers over time.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_gx_goes_official_in_korea_with_55_screen_and_snapdragon_600-news-7375.php
Too early to opine, personaly i take it with a grain of salt......would be surprised that they made a device with the same spec then 2013.....
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Too early to opine, personaly i take it with a grain of salt......would be surprised that they made a device with the same spec then 2013.....
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I'm just hoping it has dev support and we can somehow rip the ROM and run it on the G Pro seeing that most of the hardware is the same.
well it look like I was not right......it seem that lg have made the same phone then the g pro....
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_gx_goes_official_in_korea_with_55_screen_and_snapdragon_600-news-7375.php
to be honest I don't understand much why the lg x have the same spec then the g pro?? the positive point is that we gonna problably be able to port his newest rom in our g pro.. otherwise it not gonna be in the category of "flagship" especialy in 2014...
Hopefully LG will update the G Pro alongside it when it releases, although it is weird that lg is releasing the same phone with just newer software...
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Hopefully LG will update the G Pro alongside it when it releases, although it is weird that lg is releasing the same phone with just newer software...
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They're saving a fortune on software updates since they never update anything. Probably cheaper to just release another device and hope the public buys it. After all, we bought the OG Pro, didn't we and knew full well that no updates would be released.
We can only hope to port its stock rom onto our phone.
Just read that moto G is already receiving the 4.4 update. And v r still on 4.1.2 :banghead:
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I just want my G Pro to have the same vanilla stock kit Kat nexus rom like my n7 and n4 have. This stock LG rom sucks up too much memory.
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The LGOGP has 2GB RAM, it's more than enough for running it lag free (mine running very smooth). With Android 4.3< things will be even better thanks to the new Trim function. From my experience 98% of the time the best rom for any device is based on its official release.
LG making a mistake in the long run not updating their devices.
I'm really looking forward to KITKAT..
Nobody knows when or even if KitKat will be released for this tablet. Samsung does not provide timelines, the only way we know is through leaks. There haven't been any to my knowledge.
I doubt we will get it since we didn't get 4.3. Last time I buy a Samsung tablet
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Samsung already forgot this machine.
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I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. You have a perfectly functional tablet that doesn't have any outwardly obvious bugs or other problems. I bet you use it with no problems. Sure, it's nice to have the latest update, but it's not like you have significantly outdated software that limits your usage of the tablet. And should 4.4 land on this tab (for the record, I think it will), you guys will be happy for all of about 5 minutes and move on with your day. And of course as soon as a new minor update drops, the *****fest will begin again.
I am running custom build 4.4.2 on my Galaxy S4. Outside of some UI tweaks and ART, it brings nothing significant to the table.
Thats the attitude HTC had just before they started losing tons of money
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Thats the attitude HTC had just before they started losing tons of money
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There are many reasons why HTC is failing, but if this is even a reason, it's an insignificant one. Samsung has never been truly up to date on updates, yet they are second only to Apple in the amount of high-end devices sold. Most people, myself included don't really care whether we are on the latest version. We just care that our devices perform well and do what we need them to do. I only complain if an update screws something up.
And lets be honest here: you are running the latest version of all of the Google Apps. It's not like you are stuck on Gingerbread and being on Jelly Bean does not limit you in any way. KitKat will not boost your battery life, will likely not make your device faster, and does not add any significant features that would make a difference in your usage of the device. So what's the real issue? Because it's not that you are unhappy with your tablet.
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I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. You have a perfectly functional tablet that doesn't have any outwardly obvious bugs or other problems. I bet you use it with no problems. Sure, it's nice to have the latest update, but it's not like you have significantly outdated software that limits your usage of the tablet. And should 4.4 land on this tab (for the record, I think it will), you guys will be happy for all of about 5 minutes and move on with your day. And of course as soon as a new minor update drops, the *****fest will begin again.
I am running custom build 4.4.2 on my Galaxy S4. Outside of some UI tweaks and ART, it brings nothing significant to the table.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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I fully understand your concern. I have the Wifi-only tab and am on 4.2. I did not experience your issues with 4.1 but I do know that others have. The thing is, problems have to get fixed, and it's a shame that you are still dealing with them. I don't know if it's AT&T or Samsung in your case that's at fault though. My point was more to the effect that I don't care for software updates just for the sake of having a slight bump in version number.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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Agreed. I am on the At&t Note 8.0 variant also and I too have freezes and lag. With that being said I know that At&t and Samsung don't have the best business relationship dye At&t loyalty to Apple. So an update may or may not come. If it does let's hope that At&t don't block or rip it up like they do with all Samsung updates
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I got wifi only and I get freezes. The way to unfreeze is to turn the orientation of the note to landscape from horizontal and vice versa. I really wish for an update to fix that. And Yes htc has tons of problems but I believe the slow ass updates were the biggest driver of their customers (at least those who root their devices) to Samsung. Those people are also quite influential with their peers on recommendations
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As many of you may have noticed, google android gave excellent news for L (4.5 or 5.0) has a new interface, new keyboard, ART runtime, Project Volta and endless deployments to the system, from my point of view, this will be, so far, the update with more changes to date, and I see a great future in android.
Q - What is your opinion about this update?
Q - Our Optimus G will be able to get this update? (Obviously not by LG)
I make this post since no one around here seems excited as I am
Write your review below :highfive:
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i think its a really good update, the change from android 2.3 to 4.0 was good but android 4.0 was sad too much black, too serious. this version reminds me of samsung : childlish colors, big things... i would like a more serious os but whatev... im really excited about that update i think its gonna be good, I want it!
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i think its a really good update, the change from android 2.3 to 4.0 was good but android 4.0 was sad too much black, too serious. this version reminds me of samsung : childlish colors, big things... i would like a more serious os but whatev... im really excited about that update i think its gonna be good, I want it!
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that's true, black is not it look bad, but bored after a while, for me, the new look is "solid", and most of all simple, I'm excited, because maybe, improving performance and the battery life due to ART, is significantly better than kitkat
There is also a reason y black has been chosen..to reduce t battry consumption...also it wrks well in case of amoled screens...
I like the L look but I also like the new LG interface from the G3. Remember you will get most of the L features as updated Google apps roll out. Once the Nexus 4 has this update it will be pretty straightforward to get it on the Optimus G. But I think the best solution for this phone will be: official KK, root and theme to get G3 features, and use the redesigned Google apps as they come out.
I'm expecting CM12 late this year. The new UI looks great.
Surprised to see so many excited for ART.
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But I think the best solution for this phone will be: official KK, root and theme to get G3 features, and use the redesigned Google apps as they come out.
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Absolutely agree with this. I'd say not necessarily the official KK, but stock-based, like Sling or VDT. Personally, I don't like the L look, from what I've seen. Some components are just plain ugly, for example, the keyboard. To each their own, I guess...
As for ART, the dealbreaker for me is Xposed. When it starts supporting ART, it will make sense to upgrade. Until then, no.
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There is also a reason y black has been chosen..to reduce t battry consumption...also it wrks well in case of amoled screens...
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Well, for LCD screens, the difference is very marginal, if not negligible, since the backlight is the main power sucker. Only AMOLED will give you a measureable power saving when using black.
I hope Android L, as I read in the forum the nexus 5, the battery life has drastically improved, 2h SOT (Screen on Time) to 4 + to some users says 7 hours of screen time
and overall performance is more buttery and solid
I'm excited, hopefully developers porting nexus 4 to achieve, then our talented developers can port it to Optimus G
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I love the professional UI. I'd love to have a stock Android L experience if it ever comes to O.G
In my opinion the core experience and visual changes are improvements and to the regular Joe they might seem ok but I'm concerned about the hability we will have to modify this new version. Seems to me Google is locking it Down some to make it more "secure" and now it will be using Knox tech on that front. If we start getting qFuses ala Samsung we are going to have a hard time modding out devices it's not going to be impossible but very hard. Look at the Verizon and AT&T latest Samsung Models, they just now got rooted and beyond rooting custom roms might be possible but kernels and recoverys will be very very hard with the locked Boot loaders. And Google now wants to be like Apple and lock it all down. That part I don't like.
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No, they may want to lock the source. Tho, you can run any modification you want, if you know how to do it. In 1.5 it was a hell harder than it is today. So seeing people complaining about being hard to put a mod because you have to move stuff through folders, give permissions, and use a terminal, make me incredible nervous.
Still, I highly doubt they will lock the source. Android growns due the freedom of its open source. So no, it will stay opened, what the OEMs does is problem of the dumb people who gets their devices because they want a trademark logo instead of a good device.
Android L is like a revolution upgrade, not by looks, by the API's they put in it & ART will be default.
As a android developer I'm really surprise how much easier some API's have become, and ART is a big deal in developing for android.
Can't wait to start using those API's.
Q: Will LG release Android L for our E975?
If so I'm stick with this phone, love the Optimus UI, its really easy to use.
else have to buy a Nexus or G2 or G3.
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Android L is like a revolution upgrade, not by looks, by the API's they put in it & ART will be default.
As a android developer I'm really surprise how much easier some API's have become, and ART is a big deal in developing for android.
Can't wait to start using those API's.
Q: Will LG release Android L for our E975?
If so I'm stick with this phone, love the Optimus UI, its really easy to use.
else have to buy a Nexus or G2 or G3.
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Well, i think our Optimus G officialy die with KitKat 4.4.2, i don't believe that LG will update our device to Android L, or almost near in the future.
RIP Optimus G with Official updates, now its only on the hands of the developers!
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Well, i think our Optimus G officialy die with KitKat 4.4.2, i don't believe that LG will update our device to Android L, or almost near in the future.
RIP Optimus G with Official updates, now its only on the hands of the developers!
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Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new UI? I didn't even like the Kitkat UI tho, so incosistent.
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Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new UI?
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Are you talking about the L? Then no, you are not the only one... I find some new functionality quite impressive, but the UI is just ugly (to my taste). Also, can't understand what the big deal is about the new animations, shadows, etc. (basically, the whole Material Design thing)...
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Are you talking about the L? Then no, you are not the only one... I find some new functionality quite impressive, but the UI is just ugly (to my taste). Also, can't understand what the big deal is about the new animations, shadows, etc. (basically, the whole Material Design thing)...
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Happy to get the regular ART, but Android L is just to a version to sent older smartie's into retirement. Will see how CM's work is done with L. Don't think L is featured that well. Just to make it compatible to Wear and TV and so on ? Do I have to buey a new TV now ? For what ? Don't see serious graphical improvements. But everyone has his own opinion.
For me it is just creating a hug bubble with nothing serious in it.
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Happy to get the regular ART, but Android L is just to a version to sent older smartie's into retirement. Will see how CM's work is done with L. Don't think L is featured that well. Just to make it compatible to Wear and TV and so on ? Do I have to buey a new TV now ? For what ? Don't see serious graphical improvements. But everyone has his own opinion.
For me it is just creating a hug bubble with nothing serious in it.
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Mike
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It has a lot of new features. Some even from PA. Paranoid Android devs themselves loved L because is finally getting where they wanted it to be. Also, I loved the UI, looks better, tho as I'm a oem firmware lover since my Xperia s, it may have helped a lot. Never liked stock aosp Ui anyway.
I don't like the new UI either. It's more like a custom launcher than a standard one for daily use.
IMO I think the new Material Design looks pretty cool. Features like lock screen notifications are also long overdue
I've been following the porting of Android L in the nexus 4 and almost ready, but missing some details, I wonder if there will be some developer who carries the Optimus G, after completion of porting this
Google Translate.
http://phandroid.com/2014/12/23/samsung-galaxy-note-2-android-5-0-lollipop-update/
Thought everyone would like to know.
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Ahh. All this time I have resisted updating. Now, I may give this old phone one last shot. That is if at&t or some nice devs do thier work..
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Facts, it all depends on AT&T if they want to do any damn work. We may not see Lollipop until maybe mid 2015, if at all.
There are quite a few CM12 Lollipop builds for the Note 2 as of right now. However, there still needs to be some ironing of bugs. The only bug that is critical for me is netflix
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There are quite a few CM12 Lollipop builds for the Note 2 as of right now. However, there still needs to be some ironing of bugs. The only bug that is critical for me is netflix
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Probably just me, but I like running stock, with a few mods and debloated
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Probably just me, but I like running stock, with a few mods and debloated
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cm12 5.0.2 is just like Nexus 4 , 5 , 6 Rom , clean and working perfect , No Touchwiz
I disliked 4.4.2 TW rom because id have to charge my phone every 5 hours , with a GPE or Pure Android Rom i get 25 + on one charge
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cm12 5.0.2 is just like Nexus 4 , 5 , 6 Rom , clean and working perfect , No Touchwiz
I disliked 4.4.2 TW rom because id have to charge my phone every 5 hours , with a GPE or Pure Android Rom i get 25 + on one charge
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I have the Laza battery so I don't have that problem lmao. I also do get 2 days worth of charge on TouchWiz. It's all on how you use it compadre.
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...-update-device-confirmed-get-new-build-454655
We'll see. I'l believe it when I see it
Are they saying they are going to update the LTE variants?
Where's my update ???....
Oh...I've got AT$T....so that means I'll be dead before they ever drop an update. ...lol...g
I was thinking of upgrading to a note 4 or mega but I think I'll just stop buying Samsung phones if att Note 2 doesn't get Lollipop or a leak within 6-12 months. Or atleast know for sure it will come.. because I keep hearing conflicting info... like it's still up in the air whether we will get it.
I might get an LG flex or Sony ultra z next....basically anything that isn't Samsung.
Like I said, I'll believe i when I see it.
The Note 2 is passed the 18-month updates requirement by Google. If it gets it, it will be a bonus but don't bet your money on it.
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The Note 2 is passed the 18-month updates requirement by Google. If it gets it, it will be a bonus but don't bet your money on it.
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Google updates don't apply to Samsung flagships since, well, the Note 2 isn't a Google phone (Nexus). And that 18 month thing is arbitrary. Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 still had the update despite passing that update window.