Hi and thank you for your patience
When I enter the "Quick system info" app I see that I have several storages.
Can someone please explain what are the uses for the following 2 storages?
System storage - I have 68MB free out of 250. Is t normal ?
Internal storage – 129 MB free out of 148.
Another question.
When I enter the "Processes" tab I see that every process take about 20MB is it ok ?
First of all why would you ask if it's normal? Doesn't it seem that your phone has problems, does it run crappy?
The system partition is the partition on which your system is installed and if you are not S-off can only be accessed in recovery.
The internal memory is the data partition, that is where all the apps are installed.
I don't know about the required free space on system, but if you did not remove any pre installed apps just leave it, it's fine. If you did remove pre installed apps you can move some apps form /data/app to system/app to save some space on the internal memory, but in your case that isn't necessary because you still have 129 Mb free.
About the processes, it's all fine except if you experience heavy lag, than you might need a task killer and use it every once in a while.
My Desire keeps saying 'Installation error, Insufficient storage available.'
I have oxygen 2.0.3 and have rooted and s-offed my phone.
aLogCat:
I/DefContainer(19162): Exception : java.io.IOException: No space left on device when copying file
E/DefContainer(19162): Couldn't copy file: /sdcard/.cache/downloadfile-2.apk
I/vending (18995): [9] MyPackageInstallObserver.packageInstalled(): Package install from content://downloads/my_downloads/87 failed: Insufficient storage available.
Titanium Backup:
Internal: 357 MB (120 MB free)
SD card: 15.6 GB (6.66 GB free)
SD card (a2sd): 239 MB (12.7 MB free)
I've tried clearing all the cache and installing but I can't seem to install anything. I have 120MB left in my internal, so how come I can't seem to install any more applications?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out!
I could be wrong since i'm a real newb. But don't these custom roms automatically install to sd on the ext partition? Could your desire be reading the space left to be only 12.7mb and ignoring the real internal space?
From what you have posted i would say you need to increase the size of your EXT partition
Anyway to make them make use of the internal space as well? I've always thought that A2SD uses both the internal and external space.
srygonic said:
Anyway to make them make use of the internal space as well? I've always thought that A2SD uses both the internal and external space.
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It does but then your relying on that 12meg to be accurate. If there's not enough space here then it won't let it install I should imagine
Dear P920 users,
I once installed about 25 own Apps. No problems with storage space.
Then I updated my mobile from Android 2.3.5 to 4.0.4. and rootet it. The old app installations have been lost hereby.
But now I could install just 9 apps. Since that I have BIG storage problems:
No more app can be installed because there shall be too few system storage. It seems to be a joke for me!...
But it is fact: no more download from GooglePlay is possible!
Android shows in the storage management:
* system storage: 252 MB apps, 106 MB available, All together: 0,98 GB
* Internal storage: 85 MB apps, 378 MB photos/videos, Downloads: 33,8 MB, miscallenous: 1,83GB, available: 610 MB, all together: 5,57 GB.
* SD card: 4,79 GB available, 7,39 GB all together.
As you can see: the only reason can be the few 106 MB of the system storage. But WHY is there so few space left??...
1 GB space should be enough for 100 apps and more!...
Can anybody understand what is wrong here?... The storage managment seems to be wrong. There SHOULD be enough room!
I attached to this message a screenshot from a file explorer. Maybe this tells anybody anything and gives an explanation.
I cannot find anything wrong.
Thank you very much for your help and tips!
PS:
To find out what the strange 'storage eater' is I should know the following:
A) During upgarde to version 4.0.4 are there any folders of the system storage that are not cleaned?
B) Option 'System management': Several parameters are missing, like miscellanies and other. So the sum of app and available is not 0,98 GB? What is wrong here?
Where can I find out about the remaining not mentioned data?
C) How does Android calculate the 'available' system space? (here 106 MB) In the screenshot 106 MB are not mentioned anywhere.
C2) What is the minimal necessary available storage before there are problems? Is 106 MB left already too low?
C3) Which are the limitations of system storage folders?
D) Is there a file explorer app that directly lists the sizes of of (system)folders?
E) What is the size of the system folders at P920 of a clean Android 4 system? (especially of folders 'data', 'data/data' and 'system') [then I could compare!...]
Hello,
Disk info app, shows this info about my OP3's 64 GB Storage space:
Cache: 256 MB (13.7 used, 242 MB Free)
Data: 53.6 GB (35.9 GB used, 17.7 GB Free)
System: 2.9 GB (1.7 GB used, 1.3 GB Free)
/bt_firmware: 1023 MB Free
TMPFS Mount Points:
/dev: 2.8 GB Free
/mnt: 2.8 GB Free
/sbin: 2.8 GB Free
& Multiple partitions (named sde.....) of 256 KB to 64 MB each.
ES File Explorer app shows:
Total: 52.67 GB
Used: 18.35 GB
Available: 17.72 GB
TWRP shows:
System: 1600 MB
Data: 14388 MB
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My Query is:
1. Is it Normal, for Data to take this much space ?
2. Why can't i see the 17.55GB of missing Used Space ?
35.9 GB (Disk Info) - 18.35 GB (ES File Explorer)
Maybe you've messed up with encryption?
When I decided to remove stock encryption and force it with custom rom, only 24 GB of storage were shown.
According to my experience, in this case you've to:
1) Put device in TWRP (be sure to use latest version);
2) Wipe all partitions;
3) Install latest ADB on PC;
4) Put device in Bootloader Mode and plug it to PC;
5) Type from Terminal fastboot format userdata and wait until it ends;
6) Go back to TWRP and now install latest OxygenOS full firmware (stock or open beta it doesn't matter);
7) Do a first boot with OOS: maybe there's a dialog about device encryption, confirm that;
8) Now your storage space would be fixed.
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A friend has a G5 16GB storage 3GB RAM Amazon special. She started receiving "low storage" messages recently, and Disk Usage shows that her system data is well over 9GB with a few MB left free. I have no idea where the rest of it is. She claims not to have too many apps (she's not a propellorhead, so I believe her), she has deleted all onboard photos (now in Google Photos), and needs the few apps she has.
I think 9GB is too much for System. Can anyone tell me typical system space usage, and maybe suggest how to free up whatever is hogging the space, short of a factory reset, which as a non-propellorhead she refuses to do?
(She's 200 miles away, which makes it hard for me to diagnose too.)
Could be anything but if she uses apps like whatsapp then media that is sent and received is stored on the device but will not show in a gallery app as it contains a nomedia file
manually look in whatsapp/media folder on internal storage
Same for alot of other apps
You will just have to browse the apps - look at their data use and folders on internal storage
Can also just clean the cache
Thanks - good tip. It looks like a long Skype session coming up...
I have version 2 + 32 and when I had Android 7.0 I was dialing 8GB of the system, then I updated to Android 8.1 and it doesn't say how much it weighs but it released me 1GB, That is, if you have Android 8.1 it weighs 7GB and if you have Android 7.0 it weighs 8GB
same issue
Hi,
I'm having the same issue on my Moto G5 (16 GB storage, 3 GB RAM). The information about how much disk space is used doesn't fit the total of all the stored data. In detail here are the different values and where i got them from:
Android / Settings / Storage: 14.95 GB used of 16 GB
X-plore
Internal shared storage: 996 MB free of 10 GB; size of all the data in this folder: 4.65 GB (which is almost all from WhatsApp)
Root: 996 MB free of 10 GB; size of all the data in this folder: 160.2 GB (doesn't make much of a sense...)
TWRP / Wipe / Advanced Wipe: by selecting a partition and tapping "Repair or Change File System"
System: Size: 3243 MB, Used: 1686 MB, Free: 1557 MB; File system: ext4
Data: Size: 10267 MB, Used: 3640 MB, Free: 1186 MB; File system: f2fs
Internal Storage: can't be selected
This issue occured since the first clean install of LineageOS 14.1 (LOS 15 wouldn't work then). After a clean install of LOS 16 there was no significant change, free space did increase a little bit, probably due to cache wipe. So far I managed to live with the issue but from time to time I'm getting low storage messages and I have to delete data even though there should be enough space.
Does anyone have an idea why these numbers won't fit or how to get back the remaining amount of strage?
Each one will give a different size because they take different partitions into account
Eg android settings will probably take system data & cache partitions and add these all together to give a total size
TWRP will split each partition into its own size
And so on
Some "free space" will not actually be free space but will be reserved for system use
On average you will need about 800mb of free space as reported by android system settings to be able to update/install new apps
The biggest issue is system apps - when these get updated the system apk doesn't get updated. Instead the updated apk gets installed to the data partition tus you actually have two of the same app installed. One is the system app & the updated version in data.
This is good if you ever have issues and need to roll back to the system installed version but many users don't and it just takes up probably another 2gb of storage
Now you can either replace the system app with the one in data or you can remove the app entirely & reinstall just to data - Obviously each method requires root & can brake stock ota updates etc
Or if you are using a custom rom install the minimum amount of gapps for functionality (eg nano gapps) instead of stock gapps & manually install any other required apps
Other than that there's nothing you can do except clear cache & keep a check on apps that download media such as WhatsApp & delete that media from its folder in internal storage
As the original poster I can only add what I have found out. Since the phone was a remote one I had no direct access, but my friend went to a local Android specialist who diagnosed that her missing memory was caused by photos. When the photos were deleted from the phone, but kept in the cloud, her memory usage dropped to acceptable levels. I have no idea why local photos would count as system storage.
dahawthorne said:
As the original poster I can only add what I have found out. Since the phone was a remote one I had no direct access, but my friend went to a local Android specialist who diagnosed that her missing memory was caused by photos. When the photos were deleted from the phone, but kept in the cloud, her memory usage dropped to acceptable levels. I have no idea why local photos would count as system storage.
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As mentioned in previous post it depends what the app deems system storage - usually it combines all internal partitions like it does in system settings storage
Unless you use a root app or twrp that can read and access individual partitions I would take system storage as a combined total of all usable internal partitions - so images would make up this total on internal storage which is why I mentioned whatsapp media
I resolved the out of space issue by installing a 32GB microSD and configuring as internal storage
Thanks for the quick replies!
Still I don't understand this massive use of disk space. I'm using LineageOS since the first day I use this phone. On LOS 14.1 I had MicroG, now on LOS 16 it's openGApps pico. Updates have to be installed manually, as for this phone there's no official LineageOS. All the data of my Apps is moved to the external SD card except WhatsApp.
So basically there's not much disk space used. As mentioned above, it's 4.65 GB of used space of the internal storage (according to X-plore its path is /sdcard). If we assume the internal storage to be just 10 GB of the physical 16 GB, then there's still half of the capacity unused. That's a big difference to the reported 996 MB (today it's 932 MB).
Might this difference come from mistakes at installing or manually updating LineageOS?
After updating to LOS 16 by clean install, there was no big increase of free space. Is there a possibility to get some space back in the course of a clean install?
Furthermore, the free space of data partition according to TWRP is just little above 1 GB, eventhough it says only about 3.5 GB of the 10 GB are used. I thought at least TWRP would show the real amount...
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TWRP / Wipe / Advanced Wipe: by selecting a partition and tapping "Repair or Change File System"
System: Size: 3243 MB, Used: 1686 MB, Free: 1557 MB; File system: ext4
Data: Size: 10267 MB, Used: 3640 MB, Free: 1186 MB; File system: f2fs
Internal Storage: can't be selected
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