Hello everybody!
Searching for a small (<4") and discrete smartphone (I am a little paranoid about drawing too much attention from robbers, my city is reeaaally dangerous) with an average camera I bought myself a Motorola Razr D1 recently, but found that it has lots of problems, like locked bootloader (no custom ROMs or CWM for it), the impossibility to control the cellphone through the earphone buttons (not even music playback!!!) and the promise of a KitKat update that has been delayed multiple times. So I decided to give it to my father and I am thinking about buying a Galaxy Fame for myself.
My doubt is which one I should buy. I don't care about dual SIMs, I'll only use one, my only concern is about the amount of development (ROMs and MODs) that is going to the 6810 and the 6812. I don't know why the 6810 is a little more expensive than the 6812 here in Brazil, but as long as its easier to find more stuff ready for the 6810, I'll buy it.
Thank you in advance
i think ,,,S6810 ,,cause in my country just released S6810 XD
or you can choose S6810P ,,S6810P have S beam and NFC,,better then S6810,he don't have any s beam or NFC :/
I recommend the single SIM version , (6810 P / L or M) as there are more custom rom's & mod's for it, I have a 6812B, there is little alternative rom's for it.
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Lhe recomendo a versão single sim, (6810 P/L ou M) pois há mais custom rom's & mod's para ele, eu tenho um 6812B, é há poucas alternativas de rom's para ele.
It seems like I should buy the 6810 version , specially because there's a KitKat rom being developed for it right now, right (I know it's going really slowly, but it's still something). Thank you for your answers.
Just a quick last question: does the galaxy fame support HID bluetooth? Things like ípega bluetooth controller or similar?
Thx
RaphaelBarros said:
Just a quick last question: does the galaxy fame support HID bluetooth? Things like ípega bluetooth controller or similar?
Thx
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i think no :/
I found a s6810b for a really good price. Do you guys know if the hardware differences betwen a s6810 and a s6810b are significative?
RaphaelBarros said:
I found a s6810b for a really good price. Do you guys know if the hardware differences betwen a s6810 and a s6810b are significative?
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for mod and roms,,,for S6810b is not many modification or rom :/
RaphaelBarros said:
I found a s6810b for a really good price. Do you guys know if the hardware differences betwen a s6810 and a s6810b are significative?
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faizauthar12 said:
for mod and roms,,,for S6810b is not many modification or rom :/
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In my personal opinion you should not buy any of these phones because they are very limited as hardware and also there is much to do to improve the performance.. Even with cyanogen mod or any other rom still will lag as hell because of the small amount of ram.. You should redirect to something that has minimum 1gb of ram with the price closer to this.. And as differences between the phones as hardware aren't any.. Only single problem is the modem and the baseband that are made specific to world local bands and networks..
As offtopic i am working now to a script for the s6810 rom that will preserve baseband and modem and it will be compatible with all single sim devices.. Same will apply for duos, where s6812 rom will be compatible with any of his local variants. Cheers!
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In my personal opinion you should not buy any of these phones because they are very limited as hardware and also there is much to do to improve the performance.. Even with cyanogen mod or any other rom still will lag as hell because of the small amount of ram.. You should redirect to something that has minimum 1gb of ram with the price closer to this.. And as differences between the phones as hardware aren't any.. Only single problem is the modem and the baseband that are made specific to world local bands and networks..
As offtopic i am working now to a script for the s6810 rom that will preserve baseband and modem and it will be compatible with all single sim devices.. Same will apply for duos, where s6812 rom will be compatible with any of his local variants. Cheers!
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The problem is that the other phones with the requirements I want (small, but with an better than average camera) are almost non-existance nowadays, with the exception of Razr D1 (which I already didn't like) and the Galaxy Fame. Anyway, does the Fame get really unusable because of the lack of ram? I don't usually install lots of stuff on my cellphone, and I love to tweak things to improve the performance, so I think it'll be ok for me, but thx for the warning
@RaphaelBarros I also suggest to also look for another device cause the 512 MB ram gets filled up fast with the applications of these days, with cyanogenmod it will probably lagg less but it will still lagg when you are filling up the ram. I suggest also like corsicanu said to find an phone with atleast 1gb ram.
And yes the kitkat progress is not going so fast :/ maybe I can get it booting atleast next friday but I am not sure since I can only try stuff on that phone for like 2 hours.
My own experience with 512mb ram was my google nexus one I believe and my lg optimus 2x. I had an real hard time to get it running normally without too much lagg.
@RaphaelBarros
try to search from local device from your country,,it will lowest then this device :/
or buy a old product but still good
corsicanu said:
In my personal opinion you should not buy any of these phones because they are very limited as hardware and also there is much to do to improve the performance.. Even with cyanogen mod or any other rom still will lag as hell because of the small amount of ram.. You should redirect to something that has minimum 1gb of ram with the price closer to this.. And as differences between the phones as hardware aren't any.. Only single problem is the modem and the baseband that are made specific to world local bands and networks..
As offtopic i am working now to a script for the s6810 rom that will preserve baseband and modem and it will be compatible with all single sim devices.. Same will apply for duos, where s6812 rom will be compatible with any of his local variants. Cheers!
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Just a quick question: doesn't flashing via Heimdall gives this kind of control of flashing all the other parts of the rom but the modem?
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Just a quick question: doesn't flashing via Heimdall gives this kind of control of flashing all the other parts of the rom but the modem?
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I used only odin.. Idk what options heimdall has.. You can try and report but i am almost 100% sure that heimdall will increase custom binary counter if you flash separately parts.. Be carefull, because you may brick your phone.. Cheers!
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Noob here who has decided on Samsung note 10.1 for my first tablet ... but which one? Looking for fastest performance and longevity. Does the added mobility of 4G degrade performance during WiFi operation? ... are there disadvantages other than related costs?
tx in advance!
I will advice the 4G version because it have the Snap800 like processor and have the 4G that is better and faster like 3G.
Finally, the Snap800 will have more support from dev then the 3G with the Exynos by Sammy
The trade-off will be reduced battery life most likely if traveling in weak LTE areas.
I'm leaning towards SD800, especially after what I saw in the picture
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Thank you for your replies. Looks like only the 4G version has the faster SnapDragon800. Ok that's settled.
Between32 and64, will the 64 remain faster as the memory folk
fills up or is it all the same in respect to performance?
Tx for answering my dumb questions!
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Thank you for your replies. Looks like only the 4G version has the faster SnapDragon800. Ok that's settled.
Between32 and64, will the 64 remain faster as the memory folk
fills up or is it all the same in respect to performance?
Tx for answering my dumb questions!
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I wouldn't say that the sd is faster just yet, there are no real benchmarks out there just yet for the new octo core 5420, based on the few cryptic leaks they seem to think that the new octo might be a tiny bit faster. Im not going to jump to any conclusions just yet, I would preffer the sd800 on my device if only for the cyanogenmod support
Will you be able to use this device as a phone? As in does it have a dialer that you can use with a regular SIM like the old one?
I'm getting the one with the Snapdragon processor in it.
Sammy promised that they will include HMP (Heterogeneous Multi Processing) in their 5xxx processors . Ie; they will make s4,note3 and note 10.1 to real octa core processors through a software upgrade (say kernel upgrade)...so guess , which will have higher performance , sd or exynos? ? ? ?
And also exynos version will have wolfson audio DAC in it , so exynos defeats sd in audio performance
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I would welcome an LTE model on Verizon except it will be limited to 16GB of storage and I just won't accept that. You need 32GB or higher internal storage for apps not medial content that is what the microsd is for.
Phone 2G
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Will you be able to use this device as a phone? As in does it have a dialer that you can use with a regular SIM like the old one?
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I think I read that the phone version (which won't be sold by US cellular companies) is limited to 2G. I would love to hear differently.
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I would welcome an LTE model on Verizon except it will be limited to 16GB of storage and I just won't accept that. You need 32GB or higher internal storage for apps not medial content that is what the microsd is for.
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Whoa..that's completely unacceptable (I'm Verizon). Agree on 32 min. Where can I find spex on Verizon's version?
The spec sheet Mashari_F posted helps differentiate among variants but I'm still not clear.
I'll likely have to wait until later in Nov. for my own good ... see how users are feeling about SD VS. OCTA and see what Verizon puts out vs. Wifi.
Tx!
16GB should be fine, I have tons of apps and games installed on my 16GB old note 10
and still have 4-5GB left, if you are planning on installing huge games like nova 3 (I think it takes up 2.2GB) then you might want to consider the 32GB instead
if you root and have a nice size microsd handy, you really wont have to worry about it
So, if you want the best CPU, you have to buy the version with a cell radio in it? That's kinda dorky, since I can just tether to my phone. But I guess if I want the best CPU I gotta buy the 4G (that I won't use).
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So, if you want the best CPU, you have to buy the version with a cell radio in it? That's kinda dorky, since I can just tether to my phone. But I guess if I want the best CPU I gotta buy the 4G (that I won't use).
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Yes, sure.
Because Snap800 support LTE.
And Snap800 version will be better then Exynos
See the S4, the S600 have more support that Exynos Octa...
We dont know which is more powerful yet, this is the new octa core, not the old one
Wait for benchmarks from the new one to see
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We dont know which is more powerful yet, this is the new octa core, not the old one
Wait for benchmarks from the new one to see
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lol, benchmarks...
I won't see bench, because they don't have a lot of sense.
Snap800 will be supportated because devs know the architecture and they always have the source code...
Isn't the same for the Exynos...
It's like S3 for the Cyano
So, ATM, Snap > Exynos
Guich said:
lol, benchmarks...
I won't see bench, because they don't have a lot of sense.
Snap800 will be supportated because devs know the architecture and they always have the source code...
Isn't the same for the Exynos...
It's like S3 for the Cyano
So, ATM, Snap > Exynos
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Samsung released the kernel source for the Exynos version a few days ago (sammobile.com/2013/09/20/samsung-releases-kernel-source-for-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition). I'm not very familiar with all the lingo, so please enlighten me: Is this not (all) the source code that devs need to do their thing?
Can someone explain why someone buys an expensive note 10.1 only to install cyanogenmod and lose all the exclusive features? (Spen, multiwindow, ir blaster, and some other things)
Just buy a nexus 10 or wait for the new one if you are going to do that
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Samsung released the kernel source for the Exynos version a few days ago (sammobile.com/2013/09/20/samsung-releases-kernel-source-for-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition). I'm not very familiar with all the lingo, so please enlighten me: Is this not (all) the source code that devs need to do their thing?
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The big problem there isn't the source code, this was an older problem, but the structure of the partition and the core.
If a dev will build a kernel, the source are here.
But, trust me, snap have a source code more easy, it's quadcore, and we know all about this.
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Can someone explain why someone buys an expensive note 10.1 only to install cyanogenmod and lose all the exclusive features? (Spen, multiwindow, ir blaster, and some other things)
Just buy a nexus 10 or wait for the new one if you are going to do that
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No sense.
There isn't any sense...
In fact, i will buy it only for the feature of the tab, not for the Cyano rom
Maybe, someone, will work on a tweaked rom Touchwiz based.
Hello friends,
I am considering to buy a Note 2 to replace my main device as Sensation's touchscreen failed upon me.
I have few questions and I will appreciate your valuable replies.
1. Is Note 2 hardware good enough for next 2 years? I don't play much games and mostly Subway Surfer, Real Racing, MC4. Maybe half hour a month. But I want to be able to run all upcoming Android versions (atleast till developers support this device).
2. I read about SDS somewhere few months before. Is every Note 2 affected? I can't afford to have an expensive paper weight.
3. Does Note 2 have some dual-boot kernel?
4. Any ROM with Note 3 features esp that circle popup thing (or its my wishful thinking ) ?
5. Otherwise which would be recommended Custom Stock ROM, Recovery and kernel (dual-boot is definitely preferred)?
6. Any other major hardware bugs?
7. Btw, could someone guide me as how to check if I decide to buy my friend's old Note 2? How I check it for faults esp hardware? I am getting tempted as I could save some good money for other accessories
If there is something else which hasn't come to my mind but is important please feel free to add. I would be much obliged
Thank you so much !!!
silentvisitor said:
Hello friends,
I am considering to buy a Note 2 to replace my main device as Sensation's touchscreen failed upon me.
I have few questions and I will appreciate your valuable replies.
1. Is Note 2 hardware good enough for next 2 years? I don't play much games and mostly Subway Surfer, Real Racing, MC4. Maybe half hour a month. But I want to be able to run all upcoming Android versions (atleast till developers support this device).
2. I read about SDS somewhere few months before. Is every Note 2 affected? I can't afford to have an expensive paper weight.
3. Does Note 2 have some dual-boot kernel?
4. Any ROM with Note 3 features esp that circle popup thing (or its my wishful thinking ) ?
5. Otherwise which would be recommended Custom Stock ROM, Recovery and kernel (dual-boot is definitely preferred)?
6. Any other major hardware bugs?
7. Btw, could someone guide me as how to check if I decide to buy my friend's old Note 2? How I check it for faults esp hardware? I am getting tempted as I could save some good money for other accessories
If there is something else which hasn't come to my mind but is important please feel free to add. I would be much obliged
Thank you so much !!!
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1. Im fairly sure the phone will be extrwmwly adequate 2 years from now (obviously no one knows for sure) but the quad core processor is very capable of playimg the ges you mention. Although there are devices out that already have octo core processors, they all are only usong 4 at any one time and the differences are bare noticable at best.
2. As long as you are getting your phone from an authorized dealer then you shouldnt worry about SDS as that comes with older models and should come with a warrenty that would allow for replacement (one way or another)
3. The guy that built the (either S2 or S3) dual boot kernal was receiving donations to help him fund the tools to make it back in Jan-Mar of this year and I havent heard anything since... nor have I seen anything about it anywhere (atleast not on TMO LTE version. Youre more than welcome to search around a bit yourself)
4. Yes and No... there is but Team E (or whoever) has certain restrictions (really just permission only use) on alot of the Note 3 features that have been made for the Note 2... not really stone walling development, just protecting their hardwork and asking for proper credits, no alterations without reporting back to them, etc... it will be in every new rom eventually
5. Really a matter of who you ask and personal preference. I myself love Ptmr3s Jedi series (Master for TMO WiFi calling or X for other Note 2) but thats because 4.4 isnt out and I love the functionality that TW has for the particular device (samsung hasnt open sourced their SPen, MultiWindow, etc) so theyre not on non-TW BASED roms.. if you prefer AOSP, AOKP, or Paranoid Andriod, or PACMAN, etc than there are carious roms to pick and choose from. As for Kernal... each rom will provide (or users will post kernals that are compatible (I.e. dont use just any kernal on any rom... only what has been tested and proven).
6. Nothing major that isnt morw than an isolated incident at best... obviously of roms are newer or in nightly stages there will be bugs but nothing really hardware related... should mention sometimes on calls, the person your talking to will here themselves (echo) but that is sorta sparatic at best and most roms its not that bad and nothing major (again not really hardware related)
7. eMMC bug checker app. Download from play store, (look up the thread on here) and it will show you what to look for
Hope this helps...
Ultimately the Note should be continued to be developed for some time and able to withstand another 2 years of updates and new handsets. Already have 4.4 on TMO (omnirom - though not a daily driver) and carriers are pushing out stock 4.3 ASAP
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Thank you for detailed reply.
So if I am buying new deice I wouldn't have that SDS bug. Right?
I am little surprised (and disappointed) that a powerful device like Note 2 doesn't have dual-boot functionality. That way I could run both Stock (I love various TW functionalities) and AOSP/AOKP/PA, etc
Could you plz provide link or name of the ROM with Note 3 features? Does it have that circle thing?
Thank you once again !!!
silentvisitor said:
@PhxDroid86
Thank you for detailed reply.
So if I am buying new deice I wouldn't have that SDS bug. Right?
I am little surprised (and disappointed) that a powerful device like Note 2 doesn't have dual-boot functionality. That way I could run both Stock (I love various TW functionalities) and AOSP/AOKP/PA, etc
Could you plz provide link or name of the ROM with Note 3 features? Does it have that circle thing?
Thank you once again !!!
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Air command? (Using the SPen?) ... what carrier are you on?
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No idea whats it called. Yes using S-Pen.
In my country we don't have carrier thing. We have to buy devices at full price
Find out the model of the note 2 amd visit that particular xda thread for further info on uograded custom roms amd updates... also (in case you dont know better... dont flash a rom designed for a dofferwmt device (model number) unless you know what to do.. youll lose cell service and have a bunch of stuff to do just to fix it (some people have ecpensive paper weights)
Good luck, I think the note 2 is a good decision on your part
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504016
Here you are mate...note 2 4.3 with note 3 features
It's for n7100 only if I'm not mistaken
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504016
Here you are mate...note 2 4.3 with note 3 features
It's for n7100 only if I'm not mistaken
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Thanks for the link
Yes this circle thing I was talking about. So its called S-Finder....ok
Have you used it? Its good?
Any idea about dual-boot thing?
And, I am glad to have given you yours first Thanks here
Thank you mate
Yes it's working verry good. I am using DN3 as we speak and it's a daily driver for me. The rom does not have yet note 3 camera and have a few minor bugs but nothing serious.
For me is as if a bot a note 3 and next update of the rom was anounced allready by the developers.
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Never felt the need of dual boot and didnt heard of it either for note II.
Please excuse my english...not my native language
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When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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Haha....well LOL brother..its really decent of u who thinks that way and just for that started a new thread....but its not gonna make samsung change there mind...
1st. The samsung giving kitkat only to those four phones is not completely true...
Yes first they will release for those devices...obvious it would be really weird for all those people who purchased there s4 or note 3 ,and samsung gives kitkat not to them first but us ..
2. Its just first installment lets say...its nothing like only these devices will get kitkat...many more devices will get but in later future...they will get the priority as they are flagships...
3.. Any way its universal truth that samsung updates are always late ...google releases kitkat and many devices gets it, still it takes months for Sammy's devices to get the same (bcoz OEMs takes time)...
So just wait and wait if Samsung declares the confirmed list with names of devices which will get kitkat ,after these flagships....
Though its a good gesture u are concerned about it, but starting a new thread just for poll is not required ..
No offence buddy..i am with u...
But lets start developing by ourselves rather than waiting for these companies to do for us..
If pawitp , xenon92 and k2wl would have thought the same , and if they would have just sit on there homes and just make a thread like this one and vote, then i dont think we would have got all these kitkat roms (kudos to all )....
Hope u get what i am saying...
No offense ...
With your cause xD ..
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When Grand 2 will get Kitkat (and it will) we will only get JB 4.3... I think. Developing updates is a money loss for all companies and they prefer to release a sequel device instead.
Besides Grand's main market is for ordinary people in developing countries... And ordinary people doesn't really care about Kitkat anyway, as long as the apps they want work well on their devices. Vast majority of apps still work on JB 4.2.2. And it will be for a few years ahead. Hell, there are even some people who still uses Froyo.
The choice to not update our device makes sense (economically) for Samsung. All companies are built for profit, not for loss, and because of the nature of Samsung itself (a mainly hardware company, not software company i.e. Google) they only get the money from selling as many devices as they can.
You probably should've bought a Nexus device.
And btw, this should be in the general section.
Am totally agreeing with u.Sure u can file a complaint throug samsung official website its simple and it's all what we could do to get atleast 4.3 or a fix for performance. Till recent 4.2udate device is laggy so it's a nice idea
By the way Google havnt updated its Galaxy Nexus to KiTKaT
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By the way Google havnt updated its Galaxy Nexus to KiTKaT
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It won't get Kitkat... at least officially. Google said so.
Guyz samsung will be soon giving us de 4.4 update....
I hav read it on net....
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Guyz samsung will be soon giving us de 4.4 update....
I hav read it on net....
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We can not rely on random sites brothr...
If its not on samsung site....it's nt true ..
BTW.. Evn if 4. 4 comes...unless and untill it has really diffrnt stuffs and features.....i dont think i ll be using it..
I ll still stick to AOSP ports by our devs ..kudos
Or try for debloted rom with some extra features by balliboxer ..that guy really is a gun #respect ...
N till 4.4.2 comes on our device... Maybe a new android will be introduced by that time
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We can not rely on random sites brothr...
If its not on samsung site....it's nt true ..
BTW.. Evn if 4. 4 comes...unless and untill it has really diffrnt stuffs and features.....i dont think i ll be using it..
I ll still stick to AOSP ports by our devs ..kudos
Or try for debloted rom with some extra features by balliboxer ..that guy really is a gun #respect ...
N till 4.4.2 comes on our device... Maybe a new android will be introduced by that time
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Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat
tharmor said:
Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat
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Well..if officially we get kitkay.. then our current roms will be updated too(maybe)..
Drivers and all cud be used to fix several bugs and significantly performance cud b increased...
Many ppl arent able to use custom roms because they don't have dual sim..but this one will have.. Not to forget the process load will be lesser and so over all it will be good!
Sorry if i m wrong
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Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat
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Exactly.
AOSP and its derivations of Kitkat are just plain JB 4.3 with minor features (ART, printing, white interface, etc.). Most of the Google features are already updated via Google Play Store. So nowadays there's really no reason to rush the upgrade to Google's latest and greatest, because we already have almost all of Google's Kitkat features distributed via Play Store. These are i.e. Google Keyboard, Camera, Photos, Calendar, Hangouts, etc.
It has some upsides:
- People who are stuck in earlier Android versions can taste some of Google's latest features without upgrading the Android version.
- People who are tied to carrier restrictions can now bypass that and get the latest Google features
- These apps will be updated more frequently than the Android version.
- It will be more lawsuit-proof. All of these apps are now copyrighted by Google and closed source, meaning no other companies can copy any of the apps features without asking Google. It was different in the past when it was all open source, everybody can copy and derive (with author credits of course)
And the downsides is that this is bad for developers community because we're now more dependent to Google Apps than ever before...
vinay_kumar said:
When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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Do you know anything about marketing?
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donnie.darko said:
Do you know anything about marketing?
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Nope, why.?
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Do you know anything about marketing?
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Mahn..if u think that this all new releases of lite/grand 2 is marketing ..then i would laugh at samsung for its poor marketing ..
Stats shows that their sales last year were 18-23% less then last to last year..
S4 didnt sell that well..and making bunch of less powerful phones rather then making one powerful mobile is worst strategy ever...people who live in developing countries (like india) ended up purchasing these poor performance mobiles rather than waiting and saving for a big one (and that's why many good handsets didnt set record as they were supposed to)..giving my example :|..
I was thinking to save so that i could take a good mobile...waited, so that can take a cool sammy phone (coz they are powerful)..
I ended up taking this mobile coz it had released and was in Budget ,rather then saving and getting good one(that was a way too far road )..
So marketing word..is something turns out Samsung has forgot..
Just 1 exynos chip dual core in grand and 720p resolution for 5" screen was 100times better then what they made today... It was okay then if device was a bit costlier too..(at least ppl wudnt hav ended up taking a cell with not that grt power ).. Alot alot of thanks to developers out there who gave there sooo precious time just so that i didnt sold my grand ...all thanks to them mahn..
Yea..so u were telling something about marketing ..
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raghavsharmaxda said:
Mahn..if u think that this all new releases of lite/grand 2 is marketing ..then i would laugh at samsung for its poor marketing ..
Stats shows that their sales last year were 18-23% less then last to last year..
S4 didnt sell that well..and making bunch of less powerful phones rather then making one powerful mobile is worst strategy ever...people who live in developing countries (like india) ended up purchasing these poor performance mobiles rather than waiting and saving for a big one (and that's why many good handsets didnt set record as they were supposed to)..giving my example :|..
I was thinking to save so that i could take a good mobile...waited, so that can take a cool sammy phone (coz they are powerful)..
I ended up taking this mobile coz it had released and was in Budget ,rather then saving and getting good one(that was a way too far road )..
So marketing word..is something turns out Samsung has forgot..
Just 1 exynos chip dual core in grand and 720p resolution for 5" screen was 100times better then what they made today... It was okay then if device was a bit costlier too..(at least ppl wudnt hav ended up taking a cell with not that grt power ).. Alot alot of thanks to developers out there who gave there sooo precious time just so that i didnt sold my grand ...all thanks to them mahn..
Yea..so u were telling something about marketing ..
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+1 too...!
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+1 too...!
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Companhies are filling the market with mid-end mobiles like xperia models, motoX from motorola, and others are coming to Brazil for a fraction of a High end device and still good qualities, exactly as said before.
The only one thing bothers me on Grand Duos is lacking of memory management. Even maintaining a controlled number of applications, sometimes I have to close the active ones so the phone can become slower or unresponsive. I´m using 4.2.2 from TIM carrier, Brazil.
I greenified some applications but still a little laggy sometimes, so Kitkat seems a hope for me, but I need dual sim funcionallity, so I need to wait the update, or change for another nexus based model.
I also think our phone will not get kitkat
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Only regret i have on this device is its screwn resolution and broadcomm chipset...which are the main reasons why we dont get official custom roms/high quality game support....thats the main reason whyy...!
I ll keep thia device anyway for few months more and will take moto g or something!..
Abt the petition... Lets see what happens..
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my first phone ill always keep it...and why not if we get such awesome roms!
guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
Either one is okay. Depends on your carrier I would assume.
carries is kpn, but they are simlock free , kpn 4g with speed of 225Mbit for data, but that wasnt my question , i wanted to know witch is beter for feature , Snapdragon or Exynos both have cons and ups
snapdragon
more energy save
faster gpu
cons
slower load time eventhough it is 2.7ghz quad core
Exynos
faster multitask
faster loading aps
cons
faster battery drain
slower gpu
so i want ot make the right choice
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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This is the Sprint forum. Only one choice.
i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
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i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
Cjam180 said:
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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i see, thx for the warning but s6 is difrent from note right ?, the s6 is problematic bcus the edge ?
from what i have readed most ppl on xda voted for exynos on the poll yet no customs , i realy liked the customs like archidroid, it was fast , smooth, easy to use and install/setup and i was hoping there is one for the note 4 to but for me its a kind of difficult choice , so snapdragon has more custom roms faster gpu but its slower in performance and not 64bit ready, and the exynos is faster , slower gpu and less custom roms
the note4 is a difficult choice for me atm it seems
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
While I am no expert on the difference between domestic and international phones for the US, from what I understand you will want to stick with exynos. The snapdragons are specific to the networks in the US. Will and do they work internationally? Yes. However, I believe you will run into issues with data with snapdragon phones internationally. I may be wrong on this so anyone can feel free to correct me but from what I understand, a note 4 with exynos will be better suited to the carriers internationally.
This is a US carrier section so many of us are not up on this info since we fairly rarely run into this. The general section for the note 4 will have more of an international following I believe.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
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are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
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If they do, it isn't through Sprint.
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guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
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i know i am partial to the snapdragon versions in all cases, the snapdragons include the available hardware for the fm radios, and even if the fm radio app is not included, u can use nextradio or even the spirit fm radio app from here at xda... and the snapdragons have always been easier to root/unlock booloader, etc., if u ask me... and the snapdragons just seem cooler to me, in a vibe sort of way...
is there going to be a seperate thread fr the 2 gb variant of this device and will the roms that r gonna be made fr 4 gb variant will be ported to 2 gb variant too?
Dont worry. Why do you think they wont make a rom for 2gb version?
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Dont worry. Why do you think they wont make a rom for 2gb version?
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dude i just got this device a weak ago and i m in love with it...since i found no seperate section for 2 gb variant and people have been talking about mostly 4 gb version..it made me wonder if development was gonna happen fr this device too..?
They are the same device. We dont need separate thread. It doesnt matter what CPU it has or how much RAM is in it. They are all ZE551ML model.
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They are the same device. We dont need separate thread. It doesnt matter what CPU it has or how much RAM is in it. They are all ZE551ML model.
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before buying this i was told by many people and it was written at many forums that only the flagships evices with snapdragon chipset are biggest recipient of all the development, and devs usually dont like compiliing roms on intel based cpu devices.hence zenfone 2 might never recience any cynogen or aosp based roms ..is it ture?...i rooted my previous xperia deivce and installed a couple of roms and kernels so i have a fair idea of how this all works but i m still kinda noob to all this...
Cm12 rom is being build right now and someone is making a kernel. Remeber other phones cant run win7 or 8 so smooth.
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Cm12 rom is being build right now and someone is making a kernel. Remeber other phones cant run win7 or 8 so smooth.
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Or at all...
Thanks guys ...its just that last time i had desire x dual sim device and there was no rom fr that..i didnt saw many threads regarding any development in process ft 2 gb variant ..so i was just curious ....
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R u sure that cyanogen rom is in seveloomeny fr 2 gb version too..is there any website i cn confirm from
Bootloader
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They are the same device. We dont need separate thread. It doesnt matter what CPU it has or how much RAM is in it. They are all ZE551ML model.
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The ZE551ML has an unlocked bootloader, ours does not. I'm starting to lose hope in this phone.
Which one do you have?
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Which one do you have?
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I think he is talking about the 2 gb ram version.m not aware..of bootloader status but its just that most of discussion here is bein done about 4 gb ram version..so i just have feeling that we might not get any rom ported fr 2gb version..i am not a dev myself..so i have a humble request to all devs to port roms made fr 4gb version on 2 gb version as well thank you..the present stock rom has severe memory leak problem..
Well there are 2 versions of 4gb version. 1,8Ghz and 2,3ghz cpu. I dont think there would be such a problem to do a bit of code to make it work on 2gb of ram.
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Well there are 2 versions of 4gb version. 1,8Ghz and 2,3ghz cpu. I dont think there would be such a problem to do a bit of code to make it work on 2gb of ram.
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glad that you are thinking positive. hope we 2gb users get the same treatment and support as 4gb users!
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glad that you are thinking positive. hope we 2gb users get the same treatment and support as 4gb users!
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As a 2gb ZE551ML owner, I can assure you that we don't have anything to worry about us being supported. Same for the ZE550ML and ZE500CL especially, it may seem all the focus is on the highest spec models but we're all Zenfone 2 owners in the end.
This is how all new non-nexus devices have to start out until we can reach that adequate balance between models. Remember the saying, "Be together, not the same."
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The ZE551ML exists in 3 configuration ...
2gb/1.8GHz
4gb/1.8GHz (mine)
4gb/2.3GHz
which are basically all the same phone! Kernels, ROMS and recoveries run on all the same!
The ZE550ML has also an unlocked bootloader (don't know about 550CL ... why made asus so damn many versions?!? )
And even the 550ML/CL are nearly the same. So nobody has to worry about not getting anything. When the Kernels etc are stable enough, somebody will port them to the other devices.
The people porting CM12.1 to our device are working pretty hard as far as i can tell (multiple commits a day on github).
What i really want to say with this is ... give it some time. The phone is pretty new and we have devs that are working on it :good:
XneofuX said:
The ZE551ML exists in 3 configuration ...
2gb/1.8GHz
4gb/1.8GHz (mine)
4gb/2.3GHz
which are basically all the same phone! Kernels, ROMS and recoveries run on all the same!
The ZE550ML has also an unlocked bootloader (don't know about 550CL ... why made asus so damn many versions?!? )
And even the 550ML/CL are nearly the same. So nobody has to worry about not getting anything. When the Kernels etc are stable enough, somebody will port them to the other devices.
The people porting CM12.1 to our device are working pretty hard as far as i can tell (multiple commits a day on github).
What i really want to say with this is ... give it some time. The phone is pretty new and we have devs that are working on it :good:
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ur reply gave me some hope...when I got this device I was worried that since it uses intel cpu its not gonna have many roms or kernel built fr it...but seeing the devs working so hard and community so active ..its only a matter of time
I am a 2gb base model owner and I can test to receiving all the same updates as the high end model. We are all treated as equals when it comes to updates and updates have been very frequent and this is extremely impressive when compared to the other smart phone manufacturers.
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