Screen scratches real easily....word of caution - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

First off, I've tried to be careful with the screen. I don't like screen protectors, but i guess now i'll have to get one. Im not even sure this screen is real glass, more like some sort of plastic composite if you ask me. I've come from the HTC One M7 and had it for over a year and a half and never had any problems with screen scratches. This just a few days and there is a noticeable scratch. Thankfully when the screen is on I don't see it. I've look at methods to remove scratches but doubt any will work on this. Only option screen protector. Just letting those of you that don't use one, you will end up with surface scratches on this device.

abacus0101 said:
First off, I've tried to be careful with the screen. I don't like screen protectors, but i guess now i'll have to get one. Im not even sure this screen is real glass, more like some sort of plastic composite if you ask me. I've come from the HTC One M7 and had it for over a year and a half and never had any problems with screen scratches. This just a few days and there is a noticeable scratch. Thankfully when the screen is on I don't see it. I've look at methods to remove scratches but doubt any will work on this. Only option screen protector. Just letting those of you that don't use one, you will end up with surface scratches on this device.
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Do you keep your phone in your right or left pocket? I have started putting mine in my left pocket because of the steel brads on the watch pocket on most jeans and shorts. I got a scratch on my Note 2 when I first got it.
Just wondering if this could be the cause.

Not sure which pocket or if i had coins or keys that scratch it, just letting peeps know the screen isnt as hard as glass

Factory reset it. Scratch will be gone

abacus0101 said:
First off, I've tried to be careful with the screen. I don't like screen protectors, but i guess now i'll have to get one. Im not even sure this screen is real glass, more like some sort of plastic composite if you ask me. I've come from the HTC One M7 and had it for over a year and a half and never had any problems with screen scratches. This just a few days and there is a noticeable scratch. Thankfully when the screen is on I don't see it. I've look at methods to remove scratches but doubt any will work on this. Only option screen protector. Just letting those of you that don't use one, you will end up with surface scratches on this device.
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I drive a lifted Jeep Wrangler with 35" Mud Tires. I was talking to a friend and dropped my Note 4 out the window. It fell probably 3 feet and landed on Asphalt. The only damage to it was a booger on the top right corner of the metal band. And that's with no case at the time.

Just out of curiosity, is there official documentation of what kind of glass the Note 4 has? I've seen articles that claim it's Gorilla Glass 3, but the documentation at Samsung and AT&T doesn't mention that, as far as I can see.
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abacus0101 said:
Not sure which pocket or if had coins or keys that scratch it, just letting peeps know the screen isn[']t as hard as glass
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I'm sorry about your scratch and I appreciate your warning. But for me, the lesson isn't to use a screen protector; I haven't done that for years and haven't scratched a screen in all that time. Instead, the lesson is to be careful about where the phone is put. I always reserve my front left pocket exclusively for the phone, and if I did otherwise I'd consider that an invitation for scratches.

Gary02468 said:
Just out of curiosity, is there official documentation of what kind of glass the Note 4 has? I've seen articles that claim it's Gorilla Glass 3, but the documentation at Samsung and AT&T doesn't mention that, as far as I can see.
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I'm sorry about your scratch and I appreciate your warning. But for me, the lesson isn't to use a screen protector; I haven't done that for years and haven't scratched a screen in all that time. Instead, the lesson is to be careful about where the phone is put. I always reserve my front left pocket exclusively for the phone, and if I did otherwise I'd consider that an invitation for scratches.
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Yep, right front pocket, all by itself. No change, keys, lighters or anything not paper or soft pretty much.

morbidz said:
Factory reset it. Scratch will be gone
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I tried this....Reporting that is DOES NOT fix the scratches...
I need to find a quick free scratch gone method. Help?

You should ALWAYS use a screen protector for your phone. No exceptions. It will eventually scratch and you will regret not having one on. You should also have it in a case, well at least a slim case.
This is a fragile $800 piece of equipment which you use everyday. All it takes is one careless misstep and you got a cracked screen or a dent in your brand new phone.

pr0cl1v1ty said:
I tried this....Reporting that is DOES NOT fix the scratches...
I need to find a quick free scratch gone method. Help?
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proctv1ty and morditz...i think you guys should get together in a rubber room and figure out how to get brain matter transference to work properly. Oh wait, I think that already occurred or just factory reset your brains.

For the first time since my first smartphone (original iphone) I didn't use a screen protector with the Note 3. The screen remained perfect. I highly doubt they used an inferior glass to the Note 3's. At the very least it should be the same pane except with the slight curve on the edge.
While I don't doubt your screen got scratched there must be an explanation beyond that of blaming the quality of the glass.

a single grain of sand will scratch the glass...

abacus0101 said:
proctv1ty and morditz...i think you guys should get together in a rubber room and figure out how to get brain matter transference to work properly. Oh wait, I think that already occurred or just factory reset your brains.
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I like your spelling of my name
How does one " Factory Reset" the Brain?

deeken said:
You should ALWAYS use a screen protector for your phone. No exceptions. It will eventually scratch and you will regret not having one on. You should also have it in a case, well at least a slim case.
This is a fragile $800 piece of equipment which you use everyday. All it takes is one careless misstep and you got a cracked screen or a dent in your brand new phone.
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I have to disagree. You never put a piece of film/plastic over a display, camera lens, etc. It will distort image output. I used to be a diehard screen protector proponent way back when I had my HTC EVO. I always used the most expensive kind. I remember having to change my protector one time and taking that thing off, there was a tremendous difference in screen quality. From that moment forward, I have never used another screen protector. I've owned every version of the Note and screen damage has between superficial to none. I dropped my Note 3 dozens of times on every surface imaginable, and there's only a half inch superficial scratch on the screen. Protectors are not necessary in this day and age. What's the point of having a qHD screen is you're going to diminish it's beauty with a screen protector??

use a protector, or not, its your phone and
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Gary02468 said:
Just out of curiosity, is there official documentation of what kind of glass the Note 4 has? I've seen articles that claim it's Gorilla Glass 3, but the documentation at Samsung and AT&T doesn't mention that, as far as I can see.
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I'm sorry about your scratch and I appreciate your warning. But for me, the lesson isn't to use a screen protector; I haven't done that for years and haven't scratched a screen in all that time. Instead, the lesson is to be careful about where the phone is put. I always reserve my front left pocket exclusively for the phone, and if I did otherwise I'd consider that an invitation for scratches.
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I do the same thing with my left pocket and don't use screen protectors either!
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I have to disagree. You never put a piece of film/plastic over a display, camera lens, etc. It will distort image output. I used to be a diehard screen protector proponent way back when I had my HTC EVO. I always used the most expensive kind. I remember having to change my protector one time and taking that thing off, there was a tremendous difference in screen quality. From that moment forward, I have never used another screen protector. I've owned every version of the Note and screen damage has between superficial to none. I dropped my Note 3 dozens of times on every surface imaginable, and there's only a half inch superficial scratch on the screen. Protectors are not necessary in this day and age. What's the point of having a qHD screen is you're going to diminish it's beauty with a screen protector??
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I agree
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deeken said:
You should ALWAYS use a screen protector for your phone. No exceptions. It will eventually scratch and you will regret not having one on. You should also have it in a case, well at least a slim case.
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You're mistaken. There are plenty of exceptions, for people who are careful enough with their phones. I've never used a case and never broken a phone, and for the last several phones I've had, I've never used screen protectors and never gotten even the slightest scratch or blemish on my screen.
Yes, I'm sure I'll end up damaging a phone once every 15 or 20 years. But if I divide that expense over the number of years involved, it will come to less cost and inconvenience than if I'd bought cases and screen screen protectors all along.

I wonder if I'm the first person to Crack their screen. 2ft drop to tile floor. I've never broken a phone before. Funny thing is my case is supposed to be here today.
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Astom22 said:
Do you keep your phone in your right or left pocket? I have started putting mine in my left pocket because of the steel brads on the watch pocket on most jeans and shorts. I got a scratch on my Note 2 when I first got it.
Just wondering if this could be the cause.
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Never thought about that "watch" pocket on jeans. Maybe I'll switch the phone to the left pocket and keys and such go in the right.
Although, as mentioned above I've dropped this Note 4 out of a Jeep window and had no scratches. I've also dropped it in the Jeep and had it slide between the console, under the seat and rattle around until I could stop and dig it out. Still, no scratches.

abacus0101 said:
First off, I've tried to be careful with the screen. I don't like screen protectors, but i guess now i'll have to get one. Im not even sure this screen is real glass, more like some sort of plastic composite if you ask me. I've come from the HTC One M7 and had it for over a year and a half and never had any problems with screen scratches. This just a few days and there is a noticeable scratch. Thankfully when the screen is on I don't see it. I've look at methods to remove scratches but doubt any will work on this. Only option screen protector. Just letting those of you that don't use one, you will end up with surface scratches on this device.
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2 things I get immediately for a new device: a good case & a screen protector- preferably a glass one.

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Galaxy S3 Cracked Glass (Read this if it has happened to you!)

Ok everybody, the purpose of this thread is to dispel the MYTH that you can not replace just the front glass. Good news for my brethren who as I, have learned that Gorilla Glass hardly deserves the moniker.
My phone was dropped from a height of less than three feet with a Speck Candyshell case installed and the screen cracked. Luckily the digitizer and SAMOLED were still fully functioning. I wondered if there was a way to replace just the glass. If you take the time to google Galaxy S3 replacement glass, you will find a mixture of threads on the subject with most saying that only a professional could do so. There are a few youtube videos on the matter, including one proclaiming that it is impossible to separate and replace only the outer glass without destroying the digitizer. This simply is NOT true. Not less than one hour ago I did exactly that.
Supplies:
Replacement Glass (Can be found for less than twenty dollars complete with a plastic separator, phillips screwdriver, and 3m tape cut fit.)
Hair Dryer
Painter's Tape (Or any semi-sticky tape that won't leave residue)
Gloves
Small Flathead Screwdriver
What I did:
First I removed the back cover and battery from the GS3. I went into my small bathroom and misted it with a spray bottle in hopes that it would reduce the dust in the air. I set my wife's hair dryer to high heat and low speed. I heated the bottom corner of my phone first because there was a small chip that looked like it would be a good place to start prying the screen off. I used the small flathead to start the prying because the provided plastic separator was not sturdy enough to initiate this. You don't have to worry about scratching the display during this step because there is that nice gap between the display and the actual bottom of the phone as well as the top. So either of these two places would be an ideal starting point. As you SLOWLY pry the screen up you will notice a small gap of air forming between the glass and the display. As soon as the screen is just high enough to fit a plastic separator between the glass and display, do it. I can not stress enough, go sloooowwwww. If you do not remove the glass strategically and smoothly you will cause scratches or cracks in the SAMOLED glass (The actual display). Pry from the largest shards first. Once the screen was high enough for the separator I applied a lot of heat again, and especially focusing on the gap so more heat would reach the glue directly. Heat, pry, heat, pry, heat, pry. When the glass is almost separated resist the urge to speed up, it was hard for me too... It is OK if the original glass cracks a little more as you remove it, when this happens change spots where you are prying. The glass should come off as one sheet held by the glue and colored portions. Undoubtedly you will find tiny shards and perhaps a fleck or two of dust. This is where the painter's tape comes in. Use the tape to remove any debris off of the SAMOLED screen. Do not touch the actual display, not even with gloves. This will smudge what is left of the original adhesive and will lead to annoying marks under your glass after the process. I am not sure of a good solvent that would not damage the screen or I would have used it, mine has a few smudges under it. However, they are only visible when the screen is off. I then took the 3m tape provided with my glass and applied it to the two appropriate places on the phone. Next, I removed the backing off of the new glass and carefully applied it from the top to the bottom. I had to use my screw driver to keep the capacitive button ribbons under the new glass in their proper positions. Once the glass was on the phone I heated it all up one more time to make the leftover glue and the new adhesive softer. Then I applied firm pressure around the circumference of the phone only. I let my phone cool down and then replaced the battery and cover. Finally I turned my phone back on and enjoyed all the glory of my achievement when EVERY aspect of my phone was fully functional. My phone is now a hybrid pblue/white because for whatever reason the white glass was eight dollars cheaper than the blue glass. In my opinion, it looks great.
Ps For this operation the provided phillips screwdriver is not needed.
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The original cracked blue glass after removal.
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My new hybrid phone.
The screen on and app drawer open to show that the touch still works.
It was brought to my attention that I may want to add a disclaimer.
Disclaimer: You could f*c* up your phone even more than it it already is if you do something hastily or fail to adapt your methods to a situation different than mine. All of the above as well as 99.9999 percent of f*c* ups in the universe are not my fault.
johnyardavid said:
Ok everybody, the purpose of this thread is to dispel the MYTH that you can not replace just the front glass. Good news for my brethren who as I, have learned that Gorilla Glass hardly deserves the moniker.
My phone was dropped from a height of less than three feet with a Speck Candyshell case installed and the screen cracked. Luckily the digitizer and SAMOLED were still fully functioning. I wondered if there was a way to replace just the glass. If you take the time to google Galaxy S3 replacement glass, you will find a mixture of threads on the subject with most saying that only a professional could do so. There are a few youtube videos on the matter, including one proclaiming that it is impossible to separate and replace only the outer glass without destroying the digitizer. This simply is NOT true. Not less than one hour ago I did exactly that.
Supplies:
Replacement Glass (Can be found for less than twenty dollars complete with a plastic separator, phillips screwdriver, and 3m tape cut fit.)
Hair Dryer
Painter's Tape (Or any semi-sticky tape that won't leave residue)
Gloves
Small Flathead Screwdriver
What I did:
First I removed the back cover and battery from the GS3. I went into my small bathroom and misted it with a spray bottle in hopes that it would reduce the dust in the air. I set my wife's hair dryer to high heat and low speed. I heated the bottom corner of my phone first because there was a small chip that looked like it would be a good place to start prying the screen off. I used the small flathead to start the prying because the provided plastic separator was not sturdy enough to initiate this. You don't have to worry about scratching the display during this step because there is that nice gap between the display and the actual bottom of the phone as well as the top. So either of these two places would be an ideal starting point. As you SLOWLY pry the screen up you will notice a small gap of air forming between the glass and the display. As soon as the screen is just high enough to fit a plastic separator between the glass and display, do it. I can not stress enough, go sloooowwwww. If you do not remove the glass strategically and smoothly you will cause scratches or cracks in the SAMOLED glass (The actual display). Pry from the largest shards first. Once the screen was high enough for the separator I applied a lot of heat again, and especially focusing on the gap so more heat would reach the glue directly. Heat, pry, heat, pry, heat, pry. When the glass is almost separated resist the urge to speed up, it was hard for me too... It is OK if the original glass cracks a little more as you remove it, when this happens change spots where you are prying. The glass should come off as one sheet held by the glue and colored portions. Undoubtedly you will find tiny shards and perhaps a fleck or two of dust. This is where the painter's tape comes in. Use the tape to remove any debris off of the SAMOLED screen. Do not touch the actual display, not even with gloves. This will smudge what is left of the original adhesive and will lead to annoying marks under your glass after the process. I am not sure of a good solvent that would not damage the screen or I would have used it, mine has a few smudges under it. However, they are only visible when the screen is off. I then took the 3m tape provided with my glass and applied it to the two appropriate places on the phone. Next, I removed the backing off of the new glass and carefully applied it from the top to the bottom. I had to use my screw driver to keep the capacitive button ribbons under the new glass in their proper positions. Once the glass was on the phone I heated it all up one more time to make the leftover glue and the new adhesive softer. Then I applied firm pressure around the circumference of the phone only. I let my phone cool down and then replaced the battery and cover. Finally I turned my phone back on and enjoyed all the glory of my achievement when EVERY aspect of my phone was fully functional. My phone is now a hybrid pblue/white because for whatever reason the white glass was eight dollars cheaper than the blue glass. In my opinion, it looks great.
Ps For this operation the provided phillips screwdriver is not needed.
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The original cracked blue glass after removal.
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My new hybrid phone.
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The screen on and app drawer open to show that the touch still works.
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You should do a video tutorial and post in on youtube. Find someone with a cracked screen and offer to help. You will help many people and have tonnes of views
Wond3r said:
You should do a video tutorial and post in on youtube. Find someone with a cracked screen and offer to help. You will help many people and have tonnes of views
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Also many people will not have the OP's patience and screw up in the process.
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Not much patience required, it only took me thirty minutes total. I just wanted to emphasize not rushing. That's a good idea for a tutorial video....... I am down.
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johnyardavid said:
Not much patience required, it only took me thirty minutes total. I just wanted to emphasize not rushing. That's a good idea for a tutorial video....... I am down.
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This is awesome, and great tutorial. Just saying sooommmee noob out there is gonna crack their screen and blame you so make sure you add a disclaimer.
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Toaster Strudels said:
This is awesome, and great tutorial. Just saying sooommmee noob out there is gonna crack their screen and blame you so make sure you add a disclaimer.
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Duly noted, thank you
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Toaster Strudels said:
This is awesome, and great tutorial. Just saying sooommmee noob out there is gonna crack their screen and blame you so make sure you add a disclaimer.
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Happens with ANY tutorial really. People are still bricking their s3s. People are still flashing ROMs for the international version on our phones lol
If you lived closer to the northeast Texas area, I'd pay you to do that to my phone lol
My phoen cracked in similar fashion about 3 weeks ago.
I priced aorund and the fix around my area was 350 bucks to replace the entire screen,
I ended up spending 150 bucks more and bought it new again.
Had I known this then i would have def tried it.
Dude start a business!!! I break my **** all the time
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I am up for replacing one to make a tutorial video. However, that would require trust on the part of the sender. Of course I would return the phone, because well, that would just be f***ed up. So, here is my offer; if anyone out there has a phone with cracked glass but fully functioning touch and display, send it to me minus the sim card, with the replacement glass, 3m tape, and the plastic separator. I will use your phone to make a tutorial video, and then ship it back to you with the couple of bucks you will provide for return shipping. If anyone is interested, pm me.
Disclaimer on this: Worst case scenario the SAMOLED will break and you will have to replace the screen/digitizer combo like originally. Likewise, I will not accept liability for any other damage to the phone, though I would take the utmost care with your device and do not expect to damage it in any way.
If nobody is interested, that is fine and I understand. However, this is not for my gain as my device is already fixed and functional. Also, the repair will be done within a week of receiving the phone so do not expect it to be returned as soon as I receive it. I am a more than full time mechanical engineering student and I have a pretty busy schedule.
Side thought: I wonder why all of the phone repair professionals say that this process is near impossible unless you are a professional like they are? For instance, this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es8gezSdKv4&feature=youtu.be . I am in no way a professional phone repairman and I typically lack finesse. Yet, this was pretty simple to me...
johnyardavid said:
I am up for replacing one to make a tutorial video. However, that would require trust on the part of the sender. Of course I would return the phone, because well, that would just be f***ed up. So, here is my offer; if anyone out there has a phone with cracked glass but fully functioning touch and display, send it to me minus the sim card, with the replacement glass, 3m tape, and the plastic separator. I will use your phone to make a tutorial video, and then ship it back to you with the couple of bucks you will provide for return shipping. If anyone is interested, pm me.
Disclaimer on this: Worst case scenario the SAMOLED will break and you will have to replace the screen/digitizer combo like originally. Likewise, I will not accept liability for any other damage to the phone, though I would take the utmost care with your device and do not expect to damage it in any way.
If nobody is interested, that is fine and I understand. However, this is not for my gain as my device is already fixed and functional. Also, the repair will be done within a week of receiving the phone so do not expect it to be returned as soon as I receive it. I am a more than full time mechanical engineering student and I have a pretty busy schedule.
Side thought: I wonder why all of the phone repair professionals say that this process is near impossible unless you are a professional like they are? For instance, this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es8gezSdKv4&feature=youtu.be . I am in no way a professional phone repairman and I typically lack finesse. Yet, this was pretty simple to me...
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And apart from asking on here, maybe you should put up an ad on your local kijiji/craigslist as well! You can make a couple bucks off it plus use it for a tutorial
Anyway we can get a link to the exact screen u bought
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It was this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/16086785670...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Thanks
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Great thread. I haven't had to deal with a cracked screen (thank goodness) but kudos to you for going out on a limb and trying something others said wasn't possible. Much appreciated that you posted up pictures and a walkthrough for this.
Saw this super cheap sgs3 on Craig list might try and fix it to sell it.
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waiters said:
Saw this super cheap sgs3 on Craig list might try and fix it to sell it.
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Sounds like a good idea.
Thanks dude!
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johnyardavid said:
It was this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/16086785670...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Can you confirm that this should also fit on an I747 (Telus, Rogers, Bell, AT&T) version of the SIII?
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Sounds like a good idea.
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I would so love a video tutorial. I would be willing to send in my phone, however I can't part with my phone for a long period of time..
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Absolutely pathetic phone durability

So I am sitting in my chair at home and my phone slipped from my hand or something and I reached to grab it. Of course this just results in my hitting my phone and making it speed up as it falls against the plastic edge of my sliding glass door. It fell face first but the face wasn't hit. I had my Otterbox Defender case on it and the hard plastic edge of the Otterbox had two small dings in it.
Afterwards I noticed the touch screen sensitivity was not working properly. The screen is not cracked but something underneath it certainly it. It is not noticeable until the screen is off and even then it would be impossible to take a picture of it and post it for anybody to see here.
I do have insurance on it but I will have to wipe it and put the stock ROM back on it. I will also have to do something with the flash counter I guess.
There is no way this should have broken given what happened.
I will have to also place some blame on the Otterbox case. It has both a hard plastic guard on the screen and a softer one. There is absolutely no cushioning effect if the screen is hit. It just smacks the plastic case into the screen.
Maybe I could do the same thing a hundred times and it would never happen again.
Dam that sucks. I have the Otter box case too and I dropped my phone multiple times but everything was ok. Maybe something came loose from the glass digitizer like a flat wire.
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I hate to hear that, but I agree it shouldn't have broke on you. This phone is turning out to be pathetically weak.
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Congratulations.
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original poster here....I had my wife take a picture of it. You can't see the cracks but I did notice that something is causing a 'bleeding' under the glass. I used my onscreen flashlight app and selected a color in order for the bleeding area to be more visible. This didn't happen until about 20 minutes or so after I dropped it.
The screen appears normal otherwise with the exception of the large smudge on the right and the lighter colored smudge on the left.
I will post a pic via tiny pic..lets see if it works
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I would say that you are just very unlucky. .not that the phone is pathetic in any way.
The bigger the screen the bigger the chance of it breaking.
There are just as many folks like myself who have had their phone fall from much higher heights without incident. ..and consider ourselves lucky.
There are never any guarantees on this regardless of what case you have it in.
It's not bullet proof kevlar....it's glass and plastic.
Take it back and get a new one or something diffetent if your of the mind to if you feel the phone is too fragil for your liking.
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Absolutely pathetic phone durability...
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It sucks that your phone took a hit but it's luck of the draw. It all depends on how it lands, what the impact point is, and how the impact is distributed. If the N2 had mass durability issues we'd have known by now as millions have been sold.
This one did just fine from 5'...
My phone's taken worse falls. Black ice and pavement at least 3ft off the ground. Worst it's ever gotten was a pinhole ding near the edge of the screen. Phone works fine otherwise. I don't use an Otterbox either, just those aluminum edge bumpers.
Considering that my iPhones (before I moved to Android) each had Otterboxes, I think the blame is mostly on Otterbox. My iPhones all had their screen/digitizer give out, crack or fall apart from the same type of falls when in the case, but oddly survive when they were naked. Don't get me wrong. Otterbox was awesome when it came to blunt force impact, such as getting run over, (Yes, I've accidentally run over an iPhone before...) but they just don't do so well from regular falls for some reason.
Sorry man... I'm just laughing my a$$ off right now... not because your phone is broken (that does definitely suck) but the fact that you had to come on here and lay blame on everything but yourself (the durability of the phone, how it absolutely should not have happened especially when you stated that you sped the phone's velocity after you dropped your very expensive device in the first place, and the Otterbox that supposed protect your phone). You made a mistake, you have the insurance, all good, right? Try stopping to smell the flowers instead of pissing all over them because you stubbed your own toe on the way over.
Bummer.:crying:
In the fall I was using my Note as a GPS device on my motorcycle...it actually fell off the handlebar mount but dangled by the powercord on the pavement for about 100 ft. at 20 mph. I was in SHOCK but it didn't get ANY marks...unbelievable.
I had a simple TPU case that extends just a bit above the screen.
I have no complaints about durability in my situation.
Its luck of the draw really. I bet there are hundreds of people out there who've dropped their note2 in far worse positions and nothing has happened.
Happened to me with my iphone 3gs. I dropped it probably over 10 times. It always fell out of one jacket I had. It fell on the corners, sides, face down and back down on concrete, tile, asphalt...etc. the one time it breaks ... it fell on my wood deck and cracked the screen.
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The OP is right though... in terms of build quality.. this is a beyond cheap plastic gumball machine device...
I love my note 2, and i'm still keeping it.. the insides are just amazing.. but the outside? just embarrassing really..
Around the screen part at the top i'm already noticing a GAP/Crack forming i can stick my fingernail in and even make wider... it's frustrating as hell.
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The OP is right though... in terms of build quality.. this is a beyond cheap plastic gumball machine device...
I love my note 2, and i'm still keeping it.. the insides are just amazing.. but the outside? just embarrassing really..
Around the screen part at the top i'm already noticing a GAP/Crack forming i can stick my fingernail in and even make wider... it's frustrating as hell.
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Yeah unfortunately, it's what Samsung had to do to make the device marketable. I knew what I was getting into which is why I have insurance on my Note 2. If Samsung made this device more durable, I'm sure the price would've shot up more than the standard $299 upgrade price which a lot of people think is quite a lot in the first place (like you said, the insides are awesome which is what the selling point really is). All Samsung products are flimsy from their TVs to their counter tops. They are functional, sleek looking, and for their electronics, fast.... But you have to be careful with them (check out how easily you can warp a Samsung LCD/LED TV just by holding it wrong causing light leak... But man, does it look great when it isn't busted) .
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http://m.gizmodo.com/5975985/the-best-phone-background-image-ever-requires-a-shattered-screen
In case you don't have insurance and a hefty bank account to replace your device
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Yeah unfortunately, it's what Samsung had to do to make the device marketable. I knew what I was getting into which is why I have insurance on my Note 2. If Samsung made this device more durable, I'm sure the price would've shot up more than the standard $299 upgrade price which a lot of people think is quite a lot in the first place (like you said, the insides are awesome which is what the selling point really is). All Samsung products are flimsy from their TVs to their counter tops. They are functional, sleek looking, and for their electronics, fast.... But you have to be careful with them (check out how easily you can warp a Samsung LCD/LED TV just by holding it wrong causing light leak... But man, does it look great when it isn't busted) .
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Yes, I do have insurance. I went to the Assurion site and filed a claim. Towards the end the site gave me a bunch of sh it about filling out and uploading a signed affidavit, providing a copy of my phone bill, a copy of my id, and a picture of the back of the phone under the battery (or a sales receipt or upc code from the box). The site says that takes up to 48 hours, then it takes 1-2 days to ship out, and then another day or two to arrive at my house. I had dealt enough with [email protected] replacing my warranty phone and taking a ridiculous amount of time. I ended up just going down and paying like $709 for a new one AND had the AT&T store do the insurance paperwork for the phone. I might get the phone Friday; who knows.
All I know is that I will have two Note 2 phones. I might take the one back that I just bought and pay the restocking fee. Or, it might be nice to have an extra just to screw around with different ROMS and not have to worry about staying up till late at night getting my phone functioning properly for the next day. I have a lot of learning to do with the Android platform. I don't like having my phone on me and not having it fully functioning without all my adjustments set and apps working properly. I am like OCD when it comes to that and it causes me anxiety for some reason.
I wonder if all these developers have a buttload of extra phones that they use in addition to their everyday carry phone. It seems odd that they would be doing all this experimenting on their everyday phones.
I'm shocked your phone broke like that, especially with a defender on it. Just recently my phone fell out of my waistband while I was running and bounced down the pavement without a case on it. Picked it up off the ground screen first and there wasnt a single mark on my screen. Got some nice gouges on the back and sides but my screen is still flawless. Made a thread about it with pics. I'm surprised people are getting worse results WITH hefty cases on them.
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I read they had to have lawyers help them design it to make sure it didn't infringe on crapple
I dropped my naked phone onto my wood deck and it fell 4 stories onto grass....not a scratch.
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Other than the obvious fact that those of us who have dropped our devices are responsible, I still think it's the case. Otterbox may need to consider gel cushions at certain points of the case to have greater absorption of the shock of impact. The edges seems to be the most susceptible since there's no cushion at all. Just a snug, form-fitting hard plastic with a gel/rubber layer on top. That sudden impact still causes the phone to push against the hard plastic.
Just think of it this way; In an accident, head-on collision or being hit from behind, your head is pushed hard against your headrest. The headrest is cushioned with foam, but that foam will feel like hard plastic against the back of your head from the sudden force of movement. But the interior layer of the best Otterbox is hard plastic, so imagine what that must feel like during impact.
I never liked the defender cases due to the hard plastic inside. It would always leave wear marks on my phones somewhere. I switched over to the commuter which is a soft rubber with a hard outter shell. That's the way to go in my eyes.
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So I am sitting in my chair at home and my phone slipped from my hand or something and I reached to grab it. Of course this just results in my hitting my phone and making it speed up as it falls against the plastic edge of my sliding glass door. It fell face first but the face wasn't hit. I had my Otterbox Defender case on it and the hard plastic edge of the Otterbox had two small dings in it.
Afterwards I noticed the touch screen sensitivity was not working properly. The screen is not cracked but something underneath it certainly it. It is not noticeable until the screen is off and even then it would be impossible to take a picture of it and post it for anybody to see here.
I do have insurance on it but I will have to wipe it and put the stock ROM back on it. I will also have to do something with the flash counter I guess.
There is no way this should have broken given what happened.
I will have to also place some blame on the Otterbox case. It has both a hard plastic guard on the screen and a softer one. There is absolutely no cushioning effect if the screen is hit. It just smacks the plastic case into the screen.
Maybe I could do the same thing a hundred times and it would never happen again.
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Don't quote me on it, but doesn't otterbox come with a warranty?
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Pro Guard LFC (Liquid Fluorine Coat) Anti-Fingerprint

Hi there,
After dealing with all (decent) screens protector on the market I decided to remove them all even the crappy Sony film and use just an liquid.
I don't care about scratches. I mean our glass should be quite resistant.
My big big problem are fingerprints so I felt particular confident about our Japanese friends and I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CEE913M/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_HCxQsb168QMCN
Tonight I'm going to apply it if someone of you is interested about results lemme know and I'll keep you updated.
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So for the record I removed the sony original film protector, this how it was before:
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Here after I applied the Liquid after 12 hours of use without clean it:
Just to compare, I took a picture of my GF iPhone:
As you can see, still finger prints, but much less than before, and now seems a bit easier to clean too.
Here a neat video that show that (at the moment hehe) is really oleophobic:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5747628/IMG_0652.MOV.mov
Will I buy it again?: Quite expensive, that's true but now I'm quite satisfied, so currently yep I'll buy it again.
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Sure tell us how it goes
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Yeah, I'd like to know as well.
This how was before:
Right now seems much better, but honestly I'll wait to use it all the day to compare.
Stay tuned!
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This how was before:
Right now seems much better, but honestly I'll wait to use it all the day to compare.
Stay tuned!
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Looks pretty nice. I'm using the Nillkin 9H on front and back and it looks and feels good. I get some smudges, and thats about it.
Hey, is that a landyard attached to the phone?
If so, which one is that?
Thanks
bhagiratha said:
Looks pretty nice. I'm using the Nillkin 9H on front and back and it looks and feels good. I get some smudges, and thats about it.
Hey, is that a landyard attached to the phone?
If so, which one is that?
Thanks
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I got it from my old Lumia 1020
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I got it from my old Lumia 1020
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Definitely keep us updated, I'm interested in seeing how this works out for you. I'm also curious about those other nano coatings that I keep seeing.
Quick update. I'll post some pictures later. But so far, I'm quite satisfied. I mean is not the silver bullet but my display looks much more clean of finger prints. Sure some are there but quite normal also in phones with a native oleophobic coating. The surface looks also smoother. Keep in mind that I'm also not sure if I applied it fully correctly
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Guys, updated the main thread with before/after.
Check the video too!!!
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I don't care about scratches. I mean our glass should be quite resistant.
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Quite resistant does not mean you won't get scratches. Corning glass 3 gets scratched. If you don't care then its your call.
It only takes a little bit of sand to do it. Going naked is not worth it.
Fingerprints is not a big deal compared to scratches, at least they come off.
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My big big problem are fingerprints so I felt particular confident about our Japanese friends and I bought this
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So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
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Will I buy it again?[/U][/B]: Quite expensive, that's true but now I'm quite satisfied, so currently yep I'll buy it again.
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Wait...you get just one coat with this product ?
One 5ml bottle (about 140 sprays) with 30 polishing cloths, and one washable microfiber cloth
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How many coats does this translate into for $27 ?
How many coats are you supposed to apply in one session ?
One Twelve said:
Quite resistant does not mean you won't get scratches. Corning glass 3 gets scratched. If you don't care then its your call.
It only takes a little bit of sand to do it. Going naked is not worth it.
Fingerprints is not a big deal compared to scratches, at least they come off.
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You're absolutely right, I usually take quite care of my phones, never applied covers or screen protector, the first is just because I usually buy a phone more for the balance between features and esthetic so cover this phone to me means: okay go and buy a Samsung.
The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.
Fingerprints makes the phone (especially at the end of the day) a dirty bag, which is ashamed to me
One Twelve said:
So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
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I read that too, obviously like for other phones which comes it a native anti fingerprint coating you should not use alcoholic liquids to clean your screen. This will absolutely help, but right now I can't say if will fall within 1 week, 1 month or 1 year. I'll keep you updated.
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Wait...you get just one coat with this product ?
How many coats does this translate into for $27 ?
How many coats are you supposed to apply in one session ?
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It's supposed to offer some like 130 coats, on the amazon page there aren't many instructions, on their youtube channel they show (IIRC) 1 or 2.
I put A LOT of them, 3 exactly which was huge so IMHO you can have easily at least 50 coats, but again it depends to you. As my GF aways says to me, I tend to exaggerate, so next time I'll try with just 1.5
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You're absolutely right, I usually take quite care of my phones, never applied covers or screen protector, the first is just because I usually buy a phone more for the balance between features and esthetic so cover this phone to me means: okay go and buy a Samsung.
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Phone esthetic is probably #1 or #2 reason many people went with Z1. So here is the contradiction or let's say conundrum.
You want a good looking phone. You also want to use this phone. If there is no protection it will get scratches.
But you want a good looking phone. So what do you do if it gets scratched. How can you program your brain to ignore those scratches.
Cases there are one or two that look good but the choice is limited otherwise with Z1 for now.
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The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.
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Nilkin tempered glass has cutout for proximity sensor. I find people are very happy with this one. Brando also has it. Glass-M i'm not sure.
This cutout is essential for proper proximity sensor operation.
For the front facing camera its not required.
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Fingerprints makes the phone (especially at the end of the day) a dirty bag, which is ashamed to me
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This is personal. But i find that it does not interfere with viewing too much. It's when you look at it at an angle that it looks bad. But guess what Z1 will not work too well at an angle anyway so fingerprints is not problem with this model :laugh:
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It's supposed to offer some like 130 coats, on the amazon page there aren't many instructions, on their youtube channel they show (IIRC) 1 or 2.
I put A LOT of them, 3 exactly which was huge so IMHO you can have easily at least 50 coats, but again it depends to you. As my GF aways says to me, I tend to exaggerate, so next time I'll try with just 1.5
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Question is what happens when the coating wears out ? Does anybody know ?
Does the screen catch your finger where the coating was before. So its smooth in areas where coating is good and in other areas its little more sticky. This can get a bit annoying after some time.
The advanatage i see with this product is you clean the screen, put another coat and its new again. With the other protectors, once it wears out, then there is no way to apply another coat.
I don't think any phone comes with oleophobic layer on the screen OOTB. It's only on tempered glass protectors or in this case you apply it yourself.
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Going naked is not worth it.
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Difference in preference
One Twelve said:
So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
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That all depends on how much you dry hump your screen.
I'm two months in now ("Liquid Glass Shield"), and ready for a second coat to see if I can notice any improvement. That will give me a pretty accurate reading (seeing as I'm the only one who knows aprox how much I've been using it day to day.
One Twelve said:
Question is what happens when the coating wears out ? Does anybody know ?
Does the screen catch your finger where the coating was before. So its smooth in areas where coating is good and in other areas its little more sticky. This can get a bit annoying after some time.
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Not getting that.
It becomes a very thin layer, so you sort of wear it down, very miniscule with each time you glide your finger over it.
I suspect the changes are just to slow for you to catch on, and you will just after a long while realize that it has in fact become less smooth.
For me this is no issue, as I will stay ahead of it by re-applying "sooner than later"
I do change the outlook of my phone pretty often, so my movements on the screen are fairly varied.
If you have extremly repetitive movements on the same spot all the time, maybe what you speak of can occur.
Inconclusive without rigid testing I would say
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I don't think any phone comes with oleophobic layer on the screen OOTB. It's only on tempered glass protectors or in this case you apply it yourself.
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And this is not true
benziii said:
Difference in preference
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Not a very wise one. Come across many people that decided to get protectors because the last one they cared for very carefully ended up getting scratched. These phones lose half their value in a year, if its scratched your resale price goes down further. Up to you.
Do you not see the irony here, how can you say you care about looks and go naked at the same time
You care about the phone in the initial weeks after that you forget about it, other things on your mind. It becomes a daily tool, a means to an end. A bumper with something for the back & front is a minimum. A pouch is another alternative. The ergonomics of these devices really does my head in, first you find something that is comfortable or close to it then you got to do the same with a case.
Another thing is i'm not too bothered about showing off the looks, i don't want to attract attention. Sometimes yes but most times its unnecessary. Say on the street when you're clicking stuff, last thing i'm going to do is show it to a stranger.
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That all depends on how much you dry hump your screen.
I'm two months in now ("Liquid Glass Shield"), and ready for a second coat to see if I can notice any improvement. That will give me a pretty accurate reading (seeing as I'm the only one who knows aprox how much I've been using it day to day.
Not getting that.
It becomes a very thin layer, so you sort of wear it down, very miniscule with each time you glide your finger over it.
I suspect the changes are just to slow for you to catch on, and you will just after a long while realize that it has in fact become less smooth.
For me this is no issue, as I will stay ahead of it by re-applying "sooner than later"
I do change the outlook of my phone pretty often, so my movements on the screen are fairly varied.
If you have extremly repetitive movements on the same spot all the time, maybe what you speak of can occur.
Inconclusive without rigid testing I would say
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Am speculating as to what will happen. Have seen liquid applicaiton products being sold as scratch guards but i think the idea is to prevent fingerprints.
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Its not clear whether this comes standard or not as corning offers bare glass too.
Corning offers the option to have an oleophobic coating. Now whether the phone manufacturer chose it or not., which devices have this ez to clean layer or not is unclear.
The docs mention 'easy to clean' but the word oleophobic does not appear. maybe it was not in fashion in 2010 which is when this doc was made.
Complimenting Corning Gorilla Glass is a fluorosilane coating available to promote wipability for removal of fingerprints and residue to re-attain optical clarity.
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How durable is cornings easy-to-wipe coating ?
The ability for easy-to-clean coatings to survive repeated wiping is paramount. As such, a test to repeatedly wipe or rub the surface and test functionality after suitable iterations is required.Testing incorporates the use of a textile instrument used to wipe one cloth across another, to test the resistance of a cloth dye from rubbing off, referred to as a“crock meter”. This was suggested to Corning, as well as the generic use of the textile industry’s standard woven cotton cloth for testing.The test comprises of wiping the cloth across the coated glass surface in a reciprocating manner for the intended duration of wipes, with a load of ~ 1.5 PSI applied to the cloth. After attaining the intended number of wipes, the surface is tested for changes in static contact angle, which indicates coating degradation with severe changes in angles from initially high values for the coating (>100° for water) towards much lower values for base glass (typically <10° for clean, bare glass).
Conceptually this method of wiping imitates the approximate pressure a user would apply to a hand-held device when wiping the device across their shirt or slacks to remove fingerprint oil. Simple calculation suggests that ~10 wipes per day for three years compares to ~10,000 wipes, thus the target value of 20,000 wipes was identified to dictate suitable durability for offering to customers.
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Corning glass 3 specs, no mention of easy to wipe layer in there at all.
One Twelve said:
Do you not see the irony here, how can you say you care about looks and go naked at the same time
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This sentence to me, IS ironic.
I'll flip it for you.
If you care about how your device looks, why would you wrap it up in a clunky case?
People threat their stuff in conjuction with how they care about it.
I'm fortunate enough to be able to go buy another one.
I threat it it very carefully, and if something unforeseen still were to happen, than that is the risk I have taken.
People want to protect their investment, and make it resellable, I get that.
Doesn't mean everyone who don't are reckless.
It's like buying a classy expensive couch, then laying a cheesy plastic on top of it.
Had it for like ten weeks now, and no, still not sick of it
Not important to show it off, but the feel in the hand, and myself admiring it is enough for me.
I wear a skin on the back, so I can put it down on unwelcoming surfaces.
Also get rid of the branding this way, which make it look more sleek imo.
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Am speculating as to what will happen. Have seen liquid applicaiton products being sold as scratch guards but i think the idea is to prevent fingerprints.
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This seems like a common misconception.
Alot of the products I have checked out, have explained to people in their faq's that it does not make the screen scratch proof.
It's for easier removal of grease, and for a untreated screen, it makes it smooth.
Without it, it will feel jittery, and your finger will start skipping all over.
As for the rest, I will not go into it, as it is beside topic.
I'm not a chemical engineer either, and these semantics serve noe purpose to the thread.
You seem however, interested in knowing how long these products lasts.
I used a crystalusion wipe on the previous Z I had.
Shortly after giving it away to my friend for his birthday, I tested how the screens felt next to each other.
Mine was clearly more smooth with its's fresh layer.
The layer on the Z was then maybe five months old.
So If you think it will last like half a year or more, then you might be dissapointed.
Products differ though, and their might be a better one out there that I have not tried of course
Well I don't use any protectors on my phones except for the very odd time that I don't have either a shirt with a pocket or a jacket on, for those times I use a pouch. At least that way when I'm using the phone it feels nice. I have tried a screen protector but not for me. I see friends that use screen protectors and I have yet to see a good one.
Also I find that without any protection on my phone I am more carfull with it.
I remember back in the day when I had an iphone 4s people used to spend so much on bumpers that they used to put protection on their bumpers. Funny.
very interesting
very nice product!
i will try to find in Brazil.
it has some cons?
DAddYE said:
(...) The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.(...)
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(...) Nilkin tempered glass has cutout for proximity sensor. I find people are very happy with this one. Brando also has it. Glass-M i'm not sure.
This cutout is essential for proper proximity sensor operation.
For the front facing camera its not required.(...)
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Hey there guys. You might be interested in a research I've done on Tempered Glass protectors for Z1, currently available on market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519604
One of the most recent finds is the Crystal Armor's Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (http://www.crystal-armor.com/#!/items/5291cf428a56105df40007b0). I believe it is the only protector without any cut-out (neither for camera nor for the proximity sensor).
I've also thought that the cutout for the proximity sensor is the essential element, but it seems that it is not after all. I'm not sure if the phone behavior stays the same after the application of the protector, so someone would have to buy it and test it. Since my Glass-M glass protector cracked (phone fell on bathroom tiles literally face down, so the protector most likely saved my screen), I think I will give it a try.
Anyone tried the IMOS screen protector?
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Shander said:
I've also thought that the cutout for the proximity sensor is the essential element, but it seems that it is not after all. I'm not sure if the phone behavior stays the same after the application of the protector, so someone would have to buy it and test it.
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It gets quirky if the sensor is covered. The solution is to re-calibrate the proximity sensor. The Z Ultra lets you do it, i'm not sure if the Z1 can do it. yet.
Shander said:
Since my Glass-M glass protector cracked (phone fell on bathroom tiles literally face down, so the protector most likely saved my screen), I think I will give it a try.
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heh, this is life isn't it. Unpredictable. You took the time to get a good protector and broke it shortly after. But maybe it saved you from worse and that is why you took the trouble to find one

Glass back just cracked like that!!

Got My new edge+ yesterday. I was happy as a child playing with it all day. In the evening I was ready to go to sleep, the edge was a bit warm of using it, not hot but just warm. Didn't play games or so, just usual apps installing, browsing, YouTube, etc... I wanted to check something on my surface pro which was on the kitchen table. I layed my edge next to it on the table on its glass back, no cover. While I was busy on my surface I heard strange noises, like things cracking. At first I couldn't see where it came from, It lasted several minutes. After I was done I took my phone to put it on the charger and I felt something strange on the back. DAMN, the entire back cover was cracked, not just a bit but scattered! Just like that! I went crazy, really. It seems that the metal band just crashed the glass back cover. I suspect the the colder surface of the kitchen table shrinked the warm metal band of the edge and so crushing the glass somehow.... How on earth am I going to explain this in the store where I bought it? They will say I dropped it, but I didn't for sure. You can't see any dent or scratch proving that. I will see how it goes tomorrow, will keep you posted. I'll make some pictures as well and post them here. This Is clearly a manufacturers faulty construction. So beware of warm devices on a colder surface!!
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Wow, that's scary !!! Thanks for sharing and hope things will go well at the store

			
				
Wow that's amazingly unlucky . I don't get glass backs on phones. 90% of the time it's covered by a case so what's the point. I'd rather have a strong plastic back.
There could have been a hairline crack there all along, it doesn't seem likely that a 'warm' phone on a 'cool' surface would cause it, there would need to be some more extremes of temperature I am certain, else this would be a commonly reported issue.
I wish you luck back at the retailer, I would definitely consider insurance and at least a minimal case to protect the back, there are some decent transparent ones that don't spoil the look too much
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Man, that's really unfortunate. I can't imagine those temperature changes would cause that though, good luck at the store!
Crack-Gate?
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Crack-Gate?
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Nah, I really don't think so at this point. I am pretty sure this is an unfortunate incident.
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There could have been a hairline crack there all along, it doesn't seem likely that a 'warm' phone on a 'cool' surface would cause it, there would need to be some more extremes of temperature I am certain, else this would be a commonly reported issue.
I wish you luck back at the retailer, I would definitely consider insurance and at least a minimal case to protect the back, there are some decent transparent ones that don't spoil the look too much
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Hairline might Be possible, i certainly didn't notice it. But how do you explain the crushing of the glass, that lasted for minutes? It wasn't a dry crack, it kept on cracking, I saw the splinters popping of even when I held the device in my hand. I really felt like it was being crushed. Also notice the edges of the glass, like there was a big pressure on it
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Oh Lord have mercy! Here we go again, lets all panic and start some silly puerile post like that.
Oh, BTW if you place any phone in your back pocket and sit on it it will stand a very genuine chance of damage.
Lets keep things in perspective.
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Hairline might Be possible, i certainly didn't notice it. But how do you explain the crushing of the glass, that lasted for minutes? It wasn't a dry crack, it kept on cracking, I saw the splinters popping of even when I held the device in my hand. I really felt like it was being crushed. Also notice the edges of the glass, like there was a big pressure on it
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Glass, all glass, is to a degree unpredictable. I have seen Navy war ship port holes 18" Diameter and 1" thick bounce off a concrete floor and not break. I have also seen the very same portholes be left overnight only to find one smashed to pieces with no apparent reason at all in the morning?
Same thing can happen with 50 grand watches, sapphire glass is second in hardness only to diamond yet tap it in the 'right spot' and bingo? Come to mention it same thing with uncut diamonds!
Problem here will be trying to convince the sales outlet that it may not be a customer error. Now that may take some doing.
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Oh Lord have mercy! Here we go again, lets all panic and start some silly puerile post like that.
Oh, BTW if you place any phone in your back pocket and sit on it it will stand a very genuine chance of damage.
Lets keep things in perspective.
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Glass, all glass, is to a degree unpredictable. I have seen Navy war ship port holes 18" Diameter and 1" thick bounce off a concrete floor and not break. I have also seen the very same portholes be left overnight only to find one smashed to pieces with no apparent reason at all in the morning?
Same thing can happen with 50 grand watches, sapphire glass is second in hardness only to diamond yet tap it in the 'right spot' and bingo? Come to mention it same thing with uncut diamonds!
Problem here will be trying to convince the sales outlet that it may not be a customer error. Now that may take some doing.
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Yup! Pretty much what I was thinking. Glass is a very temperamental material and I think this guy was just unlucky. Mobile phone insurance is essential.
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Same here! D:
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Got My new edge+ yesterday. I was happy as a child playing with it all day. In the evening I was ready to go to sleep, the edge was a bit warm of using it, not hot but just warm. Didn't play games or so, just usual apps installing, browsing, YouTube, etc... I wanted to check something on my surface pro which was on the kitchen table. I layed my edge next to it on the table on its glass back, no cover. While I was busy on my surface I heard strange noises, like things cracking. At first I couldn't see where it came from, It lasted several minutes. After I was done I took my phone to put it on the charger and I felt something strange on the back. DAMN, the entire back cover was cracked, not just a bit but scattered! Just like that! I went crazy, really. It seems that the metal band just crashed the glass back cover. I suspect the the colder surface of the kitchen table shrinked the warm metal band of the edge and so crushing the glass somehow.... How on earth am I going to explain this in the store where I bought it? They will say I dropped it, but I didn't for sure. You can't see any dent or scratch proving that. I will see how it goes tomorrow, will keep you posted. I'll make some pictures as well and post them here. This Is clearly a manufacturers faulty construction. So beware of warm devices on a colder surface!!
Same thing happened to me! But on the front of my screen ;-; I didn't drop it ever and just sent it in to Samsung 2 days ago for a warranty check. It's been delivered to UPS but haven't been given any feedback yet from Samsung. I hope mine gets fixed or I will be pissed!
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will I have front glass crack anyone knows where I can find front screen glass
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As a suggestion, could it be a faulty battery? My previous iphone 4s had the same problem, the old battery started to expand and caused the back glass to crack.
Hope you they replace it for you mate
When people replace the screens they heat the glass back of the phone up to a pretty high level just to pull it off. I would say something other than heat caused the issue.
How did that happen??????!!!
wha? you are really??
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Got My new edge+ yesterday. I was happy as a child playing with it all day. In the evening I was ready to go to sleep, the edge was a bit warm of using it, not hot but just warm. Didn't play games or so, just usual apps installing, browsing, YouTube, etc... I wanted to check something on my surface pro which was on the kitchen table. I layed my edge next to it on the table on its glass back, no cover. While I was busy on my surface I heard strange noises, like things cracking. At first I couldn't see where it came from, It lasted several minutes. After I was done I took my phone to put it on the charger and I felt something strange on the back. DAMN, the entire back cover was cracked, not just a bit but scattered! Just like that! I went crazy, really. It seems that the metal band just crashed the glass back cover. I suspect the the colder surface of the kitchen table shrinked the warm metal band of the edge and so crushing the glass somehow.... How on earth am I going to explain this in the store where I bought it? They will say I dropped it, but I didn't for sure. You can't see any dent or scratch proving that. I will see how it goes tomorrow, will keep you posted. I'll make some pictures as well and post them here. This Is clearly a manufacturers faulty construction. So beware of warm devices on a colder surface!!
Sorry don't exactly know how to get a decent picture here
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next time, don't use any phone without a cover + screen protector. nuff said. You buy a high end $800 USD device and risk it like that, that's expected
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next time, don't use any phone without a cover + screen protector. nuff said. You buy a high end $800 USD device and risk it like that, that's expected
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Risk it like what? Putting on a table? Did you even read how his phone glass cracked?
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next time, don't use any phone without a cover + screen protector. nuff said. You buy a high end $800 USD device and risk it like that, that's expected
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More to the point, why do you buy a lovely looking shiny brand new phone then proceed to double the thickness, double the weight and make it look absolutely hideous?
I don't see why people do it - It's a phone - Use it, it WILL get scratches and it WILL get the odd knock if you're not careful. I always use mine naked and if you're careful and just use it normally you'll only ever pick up one or two scratches that you have to look in sunlight to see, over the two years of the contract.

SHFresh InvisShield Dome Glass

I’ve got a full SGFresh InvisShield Dome Glass Kit with extra loca and UV light. I’ll literally give it to you I just don’t want to pay for shipping.
Anyone who wants it let me .
Mods, this isn’t a sale post. Literally giving this away to whoever wants it first and will cover the cost of having it shipped to them.
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Where are you located?
If in the USA I'll take it. Pending shipping cost
Screen protector has been spoken for
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If it doesn't go through, I'm in, just PM me. Why don't you want it? Just curious.
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Can you post pictures with the screen protector. They any good
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They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
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They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
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I was impressed w/ it on my wife's v30... no halo or anything. I think I will pick one up for my 3 xl as well
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They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
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on amazon? i wanna pick another one up for the regular 3
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on amazon? i wanna pick another one up for the regular 3
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Directly from the manufacturer website
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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Can you elaborate on the ceramic coating?
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For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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I would also like to know more about the ceramic coating
Pure+ said:
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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Quality is pretty solid. It covers the entire face of the phone (including the notch) with cutouts for both speakers and the proximity sensor (glass covers both selfie cameras). Does not have an alignment kit like Whitestone so definitely take your time applying it. The only nag I have about it is that it has a dot matrix for some reason...almost like it was supposed to be an edge adhesive screen protector but they decided not to put adhesive on it and just sell it with LOCA. Also worth noting, their "oleophobic nano coating" wipe will leave the glass looking a little hazy after you wipe it on. Be sure to buff/polish it after to make it smooth and shiny again. Personally, the dot matrix bugs me enough (more apparent when the screen is white) to be getting Whitestone Dome when/if it comes out for our phone. Otherwise, the most solid TGSP I've tried for the Pixel 3 XL
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Quality is pretty solid. It covers the entire face of the phone (including the notch) with cutouts for both speakers and the proximity sensor (glass covers both selfie cameras). Does not have an alignment kit like Whitestone so definitely take your time applying it. The only nag I have about it is that it has a dot matrix for some reason...almost like it was supposed to be an edge adhesive screen protector but they decided not to put adhesive on it and just sell it with LOCA. Also worth noting, their "oleophobic nano coating" wipe will leave the glass looking a little hazy after you wipe it on. Be sure to buff/polish it after to make it smooth and shiny again. Personally, the dot matrix bugs me enough (more apparent when the screen is white) to be getting Whitestone Dome when/if it comes out for our phone. Otherwise, the most solid TGSP I've tried for the Pixel 3 XL
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Thank you so much for this review. The dot matrix is an absolute deal breaker for me. I tried to use a screen protector with a dot matrix before and just couldn't un-see all of those dots!
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Thank you so much for this review. The dot matrix is an absolute deal breaker for me. I tried to use a screen protector with a dot matrix before and just couldn't un-see all of those dots!
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Once the loca is applied you barely notice it. But when the screen turns all white it almost looks like there's glitter on the screen. You really kind of have to look for it. My guess is that it's similar to how loca is really good at hiding existing scratches and scuffs that your screen may already have. Wish I had another phone to snap a picture of it...
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Can you elaborate on the ceramic coating?
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I would also like to know more about the ceramic coating
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Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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thanks, where would one go about getting this done?
Pure+ said:
Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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Would be pretty hard to scratch as it is a 8 on the mohs scale of hardness. It essentially is as tough as Sapphire! I have a zodiac watch that's 10+ years old now and I've taken it with me to many places and it's been roughed up some and the glass is still pristine not a single mark on it. My main concern is would it wear off over time, if that is the case you would need to know when to reapply. Edit: found info on a website "A Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for Paint Protection Film, which provides a more comprehensive for of defensive. Rather, it is a premium wax alternative. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months."
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Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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If it somehow managed to get scratched it'll just be scratched. Not much to be done about it. However you can reapply any time. I have a coating rated for 5 years on a car, and that's something being exposed to constant uv from the sun and all the elements of weather. I expect that I'll never have to reapply to my phone.
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thanks, where would one go about getting this done?
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Call some high end car detailers and ask around.
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Would be pretty hard to scratch as it is a 8 on the mohs scale of hardness. It essentially is as tough as Sapphire! I have a zodiac watch that's 10+ years old now and I've taken it with me to many places and it's been roughed up some and the glass is still pristine not a single mark on it. My main concern is would it wear off over time, if that is the case you would need to know when to reapply. Edit: found info on a website "A Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for Paint Protection Film, which provides a more comprehensive for of defensive. Rather, it is a premium wax alternative. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months."
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It's extremely hard to scratch. I've taken knives to coated paint before and couldn't get a mark on it
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