How much "miscellaneous" battery drain is normal after google fixed the lollipop bug?
I've read about the initial bug in lollipop causing high battery drain under the entry "miscellaneous". I'm using a 5.0.2 rom (as far as I've understood from the information about it) so the bug should be fixed. Yet I'm seeing quite some battery drain going to this "miscelanous" entry. Right now it's 9%, screen is first at 10% but I still feel 9% sounds like quite a lot or is this correct? What's "normal" here?
TigerSoul925 said:
I've read about the initial bug in lollipop causing high battery drain under the entry "miscellaneous". I'm using a 5.0.2 rom (as far as I've understood from the information about it) so the bug should be fixed. Yet I'm seeing quite some battery drain going to this "miscelanous" entry. Right now it's 9%, screen is first at 10% but I still feel 9% sounds like quite a lot or is this correct? What's "normal" here?
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Im seeing the same - Misc is at 14% now and Screen at 10%. not sure if its WiFi related, as was the case with the early 5.0 release for the nexus 5, or if its related to NFC / something else?
smack_t said:
Im seeing the same - Misc is at 14% now and Screen at 10%. not sure if its WiFi related, as was the case with the early 5.0 release for the nexus 5, or if its related to NFC / something else?
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What bothers me is that we do not know if this is "rediscovered" battery use that previously just wasn't reported, or if it's a new drain coming with lollipop. I like lollipop but there are quite a few things about the code that has me concerned.
TigerSoul925 said:
What bothers me is that we do not know if this is "rediscovered" battery use that previously just wasn't reported, or if it's a new drain coming with lollipop. I like lollipop but there are quite a few things about the code that has me concerned.
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I dont think its the same bug. The Miscellaneous Drain encompases many things that run in the background that don't have their own status group in the battery stats. Usually, they are small drains compared to the screen, apps etc... it will be hard to determine whats causing it, unless you are a developer i think. Still the battery life isnt bad, so not really bothering me too much.
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I dont think its the same bug. The Miscellaneous Drain encompases many things that run in the background that don't have their own status group in the battery stats. Usually, they are small drains compared to the screen, apps etc... it will be hard to determine whats causing it, unless you are a developer i think. Still the battery life isnt bad, so not really bothering me too much.
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I had some battery issues coming to lollipop as compared to kitkat so I guess that made me more doubtful. On my device misc always use up about as much as the screen which sounds like a whole lot that the cell has no idea where it went.
did you have it after flashing? or is it always there?
it only appears for me after using TWRP.
rhystagram said:
did you have it after flashing? or is it always there?
it only appears for me after using TWRP.
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I'm not sure as I started flashing pretty much the first thing I did with the LG G3 that is affected by it. Do you think TWRP itself is to blame or rather an incompatibility with custom roms? I've not flashed stock to compare, but I could check my wifes phone, she is stock wout any root or hacking.
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This is a semi general android question... but i have a galaxy nexus... and that's what I'll be paying with...so....
I am currently testing out ROMs... mostly apex and its previous incarnations...
I was wondering if there is any downside to flash ROMs often? Like once or twice a week, as far as longevity of the device or its rank management or " snappiness"?
Thanks for the info!
You will be fine. From what I understand it takes your battery a couple of days to "adjust" to your rom properly and display accurately
wayneb02 said:
You will be fine. From what I understand it takes your battery a couple of days to "adjust" to your rom properly and display accurately
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and if not you can calibrate your battery using battery calibration.
truthlesshero said:
This is a semi general android question... but i have a galaxy nexus... and that's what I'll be paying with...so....
I am currently testing out ROMs... mostly apex and its previous incarnations...
I was wondering if there is any downside to flash ROMs often? Like once or twice a week, as far as longevity of the device or its rank management or " snappiness"?
Thanks for the info!
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Hey I am on build 20 or AOKP so I have rebuilt mine at least twenty times but probably a lot more because I have tried ever rom available. I think of it like rebuilding my laptop, I don't think it does any harm at all but over time the device will deteriorate just like any other hardware device.
NAND flash is susceptible to write wear and will degrade over time. Frequent ROM flashing will increase the write rate to the NAND and over time the storage performance will decrease.
I have not measured the impact myself.
what sillow said is what is worrying me mostly...i will probably end up keeping one stable build and only reflashing once a month or something of the nature just to get updates....
I know that hardware performance will deteriorate over time like any other device...the only thing is that i'm in Canada...so...yeah, three year contracts...hehe
i'd like to have my phone survive at least 2+ years comfortably...hehe
minipaolo - do you mean the battery calibration app? i'm using cwm recovery and there is an option to wipe the battery stats from the recovery, which i think is just what the app does, if i'm not mistaken? (other than showing stats, of course...)
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minipaolo - do you mean the battery calibration app? i'm using cwm recovery and there is an option to wipe the battery stats from the recovery, which i think is just what the app does, if i'm not mistaken? (other than showing stats, of course...)
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There has recently been a google+ post from one of the google developers who said that deleting you're battery stats has no influence whatsoever. Your battery will automatically calibrate itself, so no need to use a special app or delete the stats.
Anyway, good question in the OP. I can imagine it decreases the lifespan, but I can't imagine that it's decreased by a lot -or maybe just wishful thinking-
haha...exactly, let's just hope if there is an impact, that it's quite minimal...
I've been flashing roms ever since I got my first Android phone all the way up to the Galaxy Nexus now. Never had a problem.
not sure what is up but Display normally is the biggest drain if i use my phone a lot. however i recently noticed that android OS and android system are almost equal, if not more drain on battery. What is up?
drcrappants said:
not sure what is up but Display normally is the biggest drain if i use my phone a lot. however i recently noticed that android OS and android system are almost equal, if not more drain on battery. What is up?
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with custom roms,my battery drains like 1%/3min approx ,but i don't like the screen time I'm getting.
Android System has always been one of the top ones in the list. Tap it and you'll see it contains a bunch of processes run under that heading. Android OS typically should have somewhere around 4-7% if I'm remembering right.
If you're having problems though, try following so of the advice given in the many battery threads and stickies on xda, and use Better Battery Stats to hunt down any problems with specific processes and wake locks.
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Hello!
After the update, for some unknown reason, the battery percentage goes down really really fast, and it was not like that on the 10B. Just a general idea. When I listen to music, and the mobile data is on, it would go down from 57 to 54 in half an hour. Something is not right, and this happens ever after I made a factory reset...
Did anyone with the same problem managed to solve that crazy battery percentage decrease ?
raied115 said:
Hello!
After the update, for some unknown reason, the battery percentage goes down really really fast, and it was not like that on the 10B. Just a general idea. When I listen to music, and the mobile data is on, it would go down from 57 to 54 in half an hour. Something is not right, and this happens ever after I made a factory reset...
Did anyone with the same problem managed to solve that crazy battery percentage decrease ?
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Not really had chance to notice battery life properly, but it doesn't seem to be draining faster. Also my device has definitely been getting much warmer since the update. Think I'm going to roll it back to 10b(c)
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Not really had chance to notice battery life properly, but it doesn't seem to be draining faster. Also my device has definitely been getting much warmer since the update. Think I'm going to roll it back to 10b(c)
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How can I do that, when I have the H815?
can ne1 guide me , how to revert back to 10b ? thanks
experiencing very poor battery drainage !
Its 815 internation version
raied115 said:
How can I do that, when I have the H815?
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attiffe said:
can ne1 guide me , how to revert back to 10b ? thanks
experiencing very poor battery drainage !
Its 815 internation version
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Yeah it's possible, need the KDZ of the appropriate version to flash using the engineering tools.
There is a guide already posted in the General section, look in the sticky roll up thread.
Screen off for an hour and 8% battery usage. Unbelievable. I even have brevent controlling the background activities,nearly all apps are brevented.Any idea on how to solve this?Thx a lot guys!
UltraCLD said:
Screen off for an hour and 8% battery usage. Unbelievable. I even have brevent controlling the background activities,nearly all apps are brevented.Any idea on how to solve this?Thx a lot guys!
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Are you surprised? All custom ROMs are very broken.
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zdravke said:
Are surprised? All custom ROMs are very broken.
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Everything works fine except for battery life.Some people using RR6 are having a excellent battery life.There must be something I can do to improve the situation.
zdravke said:
Are you surprised? All custom ROMs are very broken.
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Broken? Arasthel's LOS 15.1 is running very smoothly for me with decent battery life, not much worse than MIUI for me.
I'm running RR 6.0 now, never have that kind of battery drain.
CrazyBeaver2377 said:
Broken? Arasthel's LOS 15.1 is running very smoothly for me with decent battery life, not much worse than MIUI for me.
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Half of the calls had no audio for me wit LOS 15.1. I definitely did not do anything wrong, I did your flashing sequence with total wipe. It was also draining battery and getting hot. I have no clue how it can work for some people and not for the others.
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Maybe you should properly calibrate battery once new rom is installed. That helped me before.
CrazyBeaver2377 said:
Broken? Arasthel's LOS 15.1 is running very smoothly for me with decent battery life, not much worse than MIUI for me.
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What's your setup?BTW can u show me your battery life screenshot?Thx
drvalianto said:
I'm running RR 6.0 now, never have that kind of battery drain.
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Wow,really nice battery life.How do u do that?
PoDgAnA said:
Maybe you should properly calibrate battery once new rom is installed. That helped me before.
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Does that really help with battery draining issue ?I should do this only when the battery indicator is inaccurate.
UltraCLD said:
What's your setup?BTW can u show me your battery life screenshot?Thx
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This is what I flashed
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/lineage-os15-t3747147/post75700363#post75700363
I don't have a battery screenshot right now. But I definitely don't notice much drain when the phone is idle. I get 3-4h SoT per day with 20-30 percent left. I use bluetooth in the car a lot and always have it on, almost always on wifi. Don't notice any drainage when on LTE though.
CrazyBeaver2377 said:
This is what I flashed
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/lineage-os15-t3747147/post75700363#post75700363
I don't have a battery screenshot right now. But I definitely don't notice much drain when the phone is idle. I get 3-4h SoT per day with 20-30 percent left. I use bluetooth in the car a lot and always have it on, almost always on wifi. Don't notice any drainage when on LTE though.
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I found out where the cause is.It's the location setting.Default location setting is high accuracy,which costs a lot of battery life.I turned it off and it's all fine now.9 hours idle,4 hours SOT,40% battery left.Really satisfied with that.
UltraCLD said:
Wow,really nice battery life.How do u do that?
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I really dont know the reason. But one thing is that because I came from MIUI, after flashing the RR, i do the "format user data" just to make sure everything is clean for a different kind of Rom. It would be a bit hassle to copy things back to the phone, but I just have to do that format thing once.
Also I use greenify with aggressive doze. That's it
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I really dont know the reason. But one thing is that because I came from MIUI, after flashing the RR, i do the "format user data" just to make sure everything is clean for a different kind of Rom. It would be a bit hassle to copy things back to the phone, but I just have to do that format thing once.
Also I use greenify with aggressive doze. That's it
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I found out what causes this on my phone.It's location setting.Default location setting is high accuracy which costs a lot of battery life.I turned it off and now,9 hours of idle,4 hours of SOT,40% battery left.
I have no audio on calls - again. This is really starting to piss me off. If no one else has this, then it must be a problem with my phone. I have never tested it with miui to be honest, I flashed custom roms right away. I guess now I need to go back to stock to see if the issue persists.
UltraCLD said:
Does that really help with battery draining issue ?I should do this only when the battery indicator is inaccurate.
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It helped me. I am not getting any drains. Give it a try you got nothing to lose. Just discharge your phone fully and then leave it turned off to fully charge.
PoDgAnA said:
It helped me. I am not getting any drains. Give it a try you got nothing to lose. Just discharge your phone fully and then leave it turned off to fully charge.
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I found out what caused the battery drain issue.I disabled NFC,set location to device only,and it all went right.Now I'm really satisfied with the battery life.Thanks anyway
I have a P3XL that's roughly 1 year old. It's seriously slow and laggy and stutters like none other. If i'm in Chrome and browsing reddit, it can crash from having a long page of images open. Using simultaneous apps like Spotify and Instagram kills the phone. I was using flashlight and making a call at the same time and it crashed.
I originally used stock, that was the same. Switched to Havoc OS and it's pretty much the same. I can only guess this is from poor RAM management. Battery life is crap now too. Doesn't last me till 6:00PM on a low usage day.
Any ROM suggestions? Or is there something here i'm missing? 4GB should be enough... the P2XL was absolutely fine but this is atrocious. I frequently want to toss this device across the room.
You may have a bad battery which is causing voltage/amperage problems and glitching. If you've already done a fresh clean install of the factory OS and still have issues that'd be my next guess.
Did you regularly run it below 20% or until dead?
Yeah I gotta say that sounds a battery issue or something else going on. I've been running stock Android 9 rooted with Kira kernel for about half a year now and although there is still a lot of reloading (especially when using chrome or internet browsers with lot of tabs open) it's still snappy and reloads quick. I've never had anything crash.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to test a battery for proper amperage. I know 2 ways to get an estimate on capacity with accubattery and extracting it from a bug report but I don't know if that will help with identify it or not.
It sounds almost identical to the same issue I had with my LG V20 which was a bad battery that would randomly shut down with around 15-25% capacity left when it got that low and when I changed the battery it fixed it
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You may have a bad battery which is causing voltage/amperage problems and glitching. If you've already done a fresh clean install of the factory OS and still have issues that'd be my next guess.
Did you regularly run it below 20% or until dead?
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I guess it could be a bad battery causing voltage issues. I have done a fresh clean install of factory OS, and still have issues. I would say i'm average when it comes to running it below 20%. I don't do that often, but sometimes it does. I rarely let it die completely.
Best scenario would be to go through Google Support?
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Yeah I gotta say that sounds a battery issue or something else going on. I've been running stock Android 9 rooted with Kira kernel for about half a year now and although there is still a lot of reloading (especially when using chrome or internet browsers with lot of tabs open) it's still snappy and reloads quick. I've never had anything crash.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to test a battery for proper amperage. I know 2 ways to get an estimate on capacity with accubattery and extracting it from a bug report but I don't know if that will help with identify it or not.
It sounds almost identical to the same issue I had with my LG V20 which was a bad battery that would randomly shut down with around 15-25% capacity left when it got that low and when I changed the battery it fixed it
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Yeah, mine is crashing hard. Hard enough that it's one of the poorest performance phones i've ever had. And that's saying a lot lol.
I'll try to use accubattery today to see what I get. It doesn't shut down at 15% thankfully.
dewie68 said:
Yeah, mine is crashing hard. Hard enough that it's one of the poorest performance phones i've ever had. And that's saying a lot lol.
I'll try to use accubattery today to see what I get. It doesn't shut down at 15% thankfully.
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My V20 wouldn't always die at those ranges but it happened pretty frequently. Do you notice a difference with it plugged in?
I would definitely start from scratch if you really want to troubleshoot this. Backup everything then flash a stock system image from Google with the wipe all command and start from there and see. If it still does it then it is most likely a hardware issue.
Sounds more like a cache problem to me.....dodgy nand chip. Needs to be replaced no matter whats causing it. If you cant get rid of it after trying everything including swapping the active boot slot from a to be or vise versa
boe323 said:
Sounds more like a cache problem to me.....dodgy nand chip. Needs to be replaced no matter whats causing it. If you cant get rid of it after trying everything including swapping the active boot slot from a to be or vise versa
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Thanks for the suggestions and information. I'll try this. Thanks everyone else!