Converting from a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact - ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm planning to sell my old Z1C for a 5.5 inch Zenfone 2 (2gb)... Will it be worth it? How's overall performace on this? App compatibilities (the mobile Intel processor is foreign to me)? Official and dev support?

2k14 said:
I'm planning to sell my old Z1C for a 5.5 inch Zenfone 2 (2gb)... Will it be worth it? How's overall performace on this? App compatibilities (the mobile Intel processor is foreign to me)? Official and dev support?
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I happen to love my ZF2 ZE551 4/64 since it can run Windoze 7 & 8 w/ a custom kernel supporting kvm. Just my 2 cents

ycavan said:
I happen to love my ZF2 ZE551 4/64 since it can run Windoze 7 & 8 w/ a custom kernel supporting kvm. Just my 2 cents
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Woah! Windows Phone roms??! That sounds fantastic... But compared to your 4gb device, how will the 2gb one fair? I do basic multitasking, multimedia browsing and my Z1C's 2gb has served me well though...
P.S. My budget doesn't grasp the 4gb model

2k14 said:
Woah! Windows Phone roms??! That sounds fantastic... But compared to your 4gb device, how will the 2gb one fair? I do basic multitasking, multimedia browsing and my Z1C's 2gb has served me well though...
P.S. My budget doesn't grasp the 4gb model
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lol, no desktop Windoze... not windows phone Please see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/zf2-running-windows-7-using-kvm-t3153299
tbh? I'm sure the 2gb phone will be fine for most anything. I have yet to find any apps that don't work on my ZF2 & most Android apps are NOT going to use 2 gigs of ram.

Don't think you'll have any problem with the 2GB version. Is it the 1.8ghz or the 2.3ghz model? Again, it shouldn't make a huge difference - the two chips have identical architecture, the same base speed and the same gpu. The only difference is the higher spec one can turbo higher in bursts. There are some corners cut to sell a device as cheaply as the Zenfone range, but powerful performance isn't lacking, and though it is a low to mid-range device I believe you get more than you pay for and it punches above it's weight. I came from an iPhone 5 to my Zenfone ZE550ML and I love it.

kanagawaben said:
Don't think you'll have any problem with the 2GB version. Is it the 1.8ghz or the 2.3ghz model? Again, it shouldn't make a huge difference - the two chips have identical architecture, the same base speed and the same gpu. The only difference is the higher spec one can turbo higher in bursts. There are some corners cut to sell a device as cheaply as the Zenfone range, but powerful performance isn't lacking, and though it is a low to mid-range device I believe you get more than you pay for and it punches above it's weight. I came from an iPhone 5 to my Zenfone ZE550ML and I love it.
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I understand the ZF2's stance in the high-mid range of the market however I'm concerned whether the ZF2 will be a downgrade from my Z1C... I'm particularly hoping the ZF2 as similarly snappy and capable as my Z1C but with the advantages that come as a phone thats released this year as opposed to the 2013 Z1C.
Also the Z1C has an amazing camera that has served me well. How's the ZF2's camera?

Well, benchmarks suggest the Zenfone 2 has quite a big performance advantage over your Z1C, and most users on here will probably tell you that it is very smooth and snappy to use in real everyday usage too. The camera on the Zenfone has its detractors, but mostly they are comparing it to things like the Galaxy S6 or iPhones. It is not perfect by any means, but a capable camera given the price. All reviews I have read pretty much slate the Z1/Z1C's camera though, so you might find that the Zenfone's is at least on a par.

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[Q] Is this a worthy upgrade?

Hey everyone,
After three years using the legendary Xperia X10, it's finally given out on me and died. Is this a good upgrade over that? Where I live, it is possible to get the LG G2 and the HTC One M7 for around the same price, but I have my reservations about buying them because they're old models.
Should I get this phone, or go for something else?
inadequate said:
Hey everyone,
After three years using the legendary Xperia X10, it's finally given out on me and died. Is this a good upgrade over that? Where I live, it is possible to get the LG G2 and the HTC One M7 for around the same price, but I have my reservations about buying them because they're old models.
Should I get this phone, or go for something else?
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N3 Neo is definitely a big upgrade over Xperia X10 in all respects!
Now coming to ur point regarding the other two phones u mentioned.. I think among the 3 u should choose between N3 Neo & G2, now it depends on ur preferences which phone u do choose, both phones have their own advantages-
G2 over Neo:
- 1080p screen
- More powerful GPU if ure a hardcore gamer
- Handy size
- IPS display
- Great dev support
Neo over G2:
- Bigger screen if u like the extra real estate
- Note features & S-Pen
- No overheating issues
- Samsung has much better service support
- Better battery life
- Super Amoled screen
- Expandable storage & removable battery
Ure from Trivandrum so I don't think both the phones have nearly the same cost.. in fact G2 is much costlier!
Flipkart prices - 27.5K for Note 3 Neo & G2 (32gb) for 36K
buy wisely!
I never like phone with sealed battery (Though I am having iPhone, which was a wish to have always).
peRFect! said:
N3 Neo is definitely a big upgrade over Xperia X10 in all respects!
Now coming to ur point regarding the other two phones u mentioned.. I think among the 3 u should choose between N3 Neo & G2, now it depends on ur preferences which phone u do choose, both phones have their own advantages-
G2 over Neo:
- 1080p screen
- More powerful GPU if ure a hardcore gamer
- Handy size
- IPS display
- Great dev support
Neo over G2:
- Bigger screen if u like the extra real estate
- Note features & S-Pen
- No overheating issues
- Samsung has much better service support
- Better battery life
- Super Amoled screen
- Expandable storage & removable battery
Ure from Trivandrum so I don't think both the phones have nearly the same cost.. in fact G2 is much costlier!
Flipkart prices - 27.5K for Note 3 Neo & G2 (32gb) for 36K
buy wisely!
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Thanks man. Actually, the prices of both phones are nearly the same, if you know dealers. The main problem with the Note 3 Neo seems to be the lack of developer support. Coming from the X10 (which had a HUGE developer base), the support on this forum seems to be lacking.
Is there a 4.4 update for the Neo?
inadequate said:
Thanks man. Actually, the prices of both phones are nearly the same, if you know dealers. The main problem with the Note 3 Neo seems to be the lack of developer support. Coming from the X10 (which had a HUGE developer base), the support on this forum seems to be lacking.
Is there a 4.4 update for the Neo?
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Yeah.. local dealers may give u better deals.
If ure a flashaholic then this phone is not for u (atleast for now).
I used to be a flashaholic having the S2 which still has excellent dev support, but since I've bought this phone, my desire to root & modify have vanished.. the phone has exceptional battery life, smooth performance & a lot of neat features which I love. I don't plan to use aosp & cm roms cos this phone is a note & the S-Pen defines it!
Nowadays we get most of the new cool features through Xposed so no point about stock based custom roms.. but yeah it's about personal preference!
The KitKat update is due and we have still not recd it (u know sammy is slow with updates).. we'll get it shortly I guess..
inadequate said:
Thanks man. Actually, the prices of both phones are nearly the same, if you know dealers. The main problem with the Note 3 Neo seems to be the lack of developer support. Coming from the X10 (which had a HUGE developer base), the support on this forum seems to be lacking.
Is there a 4.4 update for the Neo?
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Kitkat update is only avaialbe for korean variant of Note 3 neo at the moment . Rest should be updated I think .
If dev support is what you're looking for , DO NOT buy an exynos phone and esp. this one as it's not quite popular like the rest
peRFect! said:
Yeah.. local dealers may give u better deals.
If ure a flashaholic then this phone is not for u (atleast for now).
I used to be a flashaholic having the S2 which still has excellent dev support, but since I've bought this phone, my desire to root & modify have vanished.. the phone has exceptional battery life, smooth performance & a lot of neat features which I love. I don't plan to use aosp & cm roms cos this phone is a note & the S-Pen defines it!
Nowadays we get most of the new cool features through Xposed so no point about stock based custom roms.. but yeah it's about personal preference!
The KitKat update is due and we have still not recd it (u know sammy is slow with updates).. we'll get it shortly I guess..
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What do you mean by this Xposed? What is it exactly? And as for flashing and developer support, I'm not too keen on those. The only reason I turned to the forums was because my old X10 had started to lag. I suppose the only reason I'll need to root this phone would be to remove some of the trashy apps made by Samsung that nobody uses, like S Voice and the like.
inadequate said:
What do you mean by this Xposed? What is it exactly? And as for flashing and developer support, I'm not too keen on those. The only reason I turned to the forums was because my old X10 had started to lag. I suppose the only reason I'll need to root this phone would be to remove some of the trashy apps made by Samsung that nobody uses, like S Voice and the like.
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Yes I know, the amount of bloat Samsung dumps into the phone is painful, but u can disable most of it & completely remove it after rooting so that's the good part.
okay, now about Xposed, search for "Xposed framework" on google & visit addictivetips site which explains everything about Xposed. It's one of the greatest android root apps.
peRFect! said:
Yes I know, the amount of bloat Samsung dumps into the phone is painful, but u can disable most of it & completely remove it after rooting so that's the good part.
okay, now about Xposed, search for "Xposed framework" on google & visit addictivetips site which explains everything about Xposed. It's one of the greatest android root apps.
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Has anyone managed to root this phone yet? I thought you were having difficulty with that.
inadequate said:
Has anyone managed to root this phone yet? I thought you were having difficulty with that.
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Many many users have. I don't know about the difficulties cos I still haven't rooted my phone, if u have any issues, members are here to help u!
peRFect! said:
Many many users have. I don't know about the difficulties cos I still haven't rooted my phone, if u have any issues, members are here to help u!
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Really? There's only one thread about rooting here on these forums, and those guys had problems rooting it. That's why I said so.
inadequate said:
Really? There's only one thread about rooting here on these forums, and those guys had problems rooting it. That's why I said so.
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U can use CF auto root for N750, my neo bro @sgatechwork used it & completely modded his phone after that.
peRFect! said:
U can use CF auto root for N750, my neo bro @sgatechwork used it & completely modded his phone after that.
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Regarding the S Pen and it's uses, does this have all the functionality of the bigger Note 3, or have they been stripped down somewhat as well?
inadequate said:
Regarding the S Pen and it's uses, does this have all the functionality of the bigger Note 3, or have they been stripped down somewhat as well?
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you get all the S-Pen features of the bigger brother in the neo, the features that have been stripped down are display (720p), RAM (2gb), processor (well, can't really call it less powerful), some other small things are display profiles, air gestures, camera but nothing as such which is a deal breaker. If u want the full Note 3 software suite experience at a much cheaper price, this phone is the one for u!
peRFect! said:
you get all the S-Pen features of the bigger brother in the neo, the features that have been stripped down are display (720p), RAM (2gb), processor (well, can't really call it less powerful), some other small things are display profiles, air gestures, camera but nothing as such which is a deal breaker. If u want the full Note 3 software suite experience at a much cheaper price, this phone is the one for u!
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Yeah, I know the specs of the model . I wouldn't call the 720p display a letdown. Let's face it, in India, using a 1080p screen is quite hard, especially if you're unemployed and a student. And with this year's iteration of the Note, it'll be even more difficult to use it. Who the hell watches 2K videos anyway? Not to mention, unless the GPU in the next Note is the Adreno 420, it'll be underpowered like the G3. Seriously, manufacturers have gone completely retarded this year.
inadequate said:
Yeah, I know the specs of the model . I wouldn't call the 720p display a letdown. Let's face it, in India, using a 1080p screen is quite hard, especially if you're unemployed and a student. And with this year's iteration of the Note, it'll be even more difficult to use it. Who the hell watches 2K videos anyway? Not to mention, unless the GPU in the next Note is the Adreno 420, it'll be underpowered like the G3. Seriously, manufacturers have gone completely retarded this year.
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That's so true.. TBH I find the display really good (better than S4 in terms of colour reproduction), my previous daily driver was the GS2 which has a 217 ppi screen, so 267 ppi is a major jump!
I don't believe in the crazy spec jump we have with every iteration. I found FHD itself to be a stretch, but 2K is as of now useless.
I'm really happy with my phone, always had a dream to own a Note series device (they were always out of budget, I too am a student).. just a rare stutter is visible but the features completely outweighs that rare moment.
peRFect! said:
That's so true.. TBH I find the display really good (better than S4 in terms of colour reproduction), my previous daily driver was the GS2 which has a 217 ppi screen, so 267 ppi is a major jump!
I don't believe in the crazy spec jump we have with every iteration. I found FHD itself to be a stretch, but 2K is as of now useless.
I'm really happy with my phone, always had a dream to own a Note series device (they were always out of budget, I too am a student).. just a rare stutter is visible but the features completely outweighs that rare moment.
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Even worse is the fact that the manufacturers apparently think that the S400 with cortex A7 cores is somehow better than the dual core Krait or the dual core A15 configuration. It's a big step back in terms of raw processing power. That's the only reason why I thought of this device. All the others have stupid S400 cores, including the HTC One mini 2 and the Galaxy S5 Mini (which are likely to priced above this one).
As for the display, my older phone was the X10, which had around 240ppi. I'm sure the 720p display will be a big boost
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Even worse is the fact that the manufacturers apparently think that the S400 with cortex A7 cores is somehow better than the dual core Krait or the dual core A15 configuration. It's a big step back in terms of raw processing power. That's the only reason why I thought of this device. All the others have stupid S400 cores, including the HTC One mini 2 and the Galaxy S5 Mini (which are likely to priced above this one).
As for the display, my older phone was the X10, which had around 240ppi. I'm sure the 720p display will be a big boost
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The hexa core configuration in this phone is excellent, no overheating (which is common with other exynos phones) and consistent performance. Seriously, I still don't know why the manufacturers don't use Cortex A15 dual cores, they are quite powerful. The minis nowadays are plain stupid, half the customers don't even know how they are being fooled, they just see the "Quad core" monicker and blindly buy much costlier phones. Just look at that phone G Pro lite, I mean seriously, 25K for that thing? ?
720p is fine, text too is quite sharp.
peRFect! said:
The hexa core configuration in this phone is excellent, no overheating (which is common with other exynos phones) and consistent performance. Seriously, I still don't know why the manufacturers don't use Cortex A15 dual cores, they are quite powerful. The minis nowadays are plain stupid, half the customers don't even know how they are being fooled, they just see the "Quad core" monicker and blindly buy much costlier phones. Just look at that phone G Pro lite, I mean seriously, 25K for that thing? ��
720p is fine, text too is quite sharp.
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There's one thing that confuses me. Which model of this phone has the Exynos 5 chip? I'm getting really confused, because I read somewhere that one version of this phone has an S400 junk chip, while the other one has the Exynos 5 Hexa chip.
inadequate said:
There's one thing that confuses me. Which model of this phone has the Exynos 5 chip? I'm getting really confused, because I read somewhere that one version of this phone has an S400 junk chip, while the other one has the Exynos 5 Hexa chip.
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SM-N7502 Dual sim got the "junk" s400 chipset.
SM-N750 and 7505 got the Exynos 5260 hexacore chipset

[Q] Zenfone 720p 2GB version vs oneplus one or moto g?

Zenfone 720p 2GB version vs oneplus one or latest moto g? Is the zenfone 720p better than these 2 budget phones? It's probably more powerful than the moto g but is it more powerful than the oneplus one?
I am more interested in the 720p version as it seems that the high end versions are not great with battery life... and the 720p is well cheaper...
Given, a choice of those 3 I would def go with the ASUS... This phone oozes FLAGSHIP QUALITY specs... for budget pricing.
The ZE500CL 720p 5" won't be as good as the OnePlus One if the scores making rounds on the internet are typical. Motorola has a nice line that's in this price range as well (development too). Camera is sort of hit or miss though from what I've experience personally though. I would wait a bit longer so you don't catch buyers remorse. The ZE551ML models (2/4GB ram 5.5") ooze the flagship for reasonable pricing not the ZE500CL in my opinion. Most accessories online are for the 5.5" screens at the moment too.
I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
yeahman45 said:
I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
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It's such a pity we have to delineate exactly each specific model even. Folks that browse will be lost until they go through each specific model number and what that means. Hell even the lower end models list less supported bands. I dig Asus but this is sort of nuts .
yeahman45 said:
I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
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ZE550ML should definitely beat the crap out of any Moto G due to the much better CPU and 2GB RAM. The camera also appears to be much, much better. I think the ZE550ML vs. the OnePlus One is a much closer comparison. The OPO has better specs (3GB Ram, 1080P screen, etc.) but it's also likely that the ZE550ML will sell for much less (Likely at least $100 in the USA) than the OPO so it then becomes a question of if you think the specs bump is worth it. I think it's also almost a certainty that the OPO will have better 3rd party rom support than the ZF2 so if that's important to you than take that into consideration.
Kinda in the same boat here, Padfone S or ZE500ML? Both have the exact same price locally.
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What about ZTE nubia Z7 mini or Z9 mini .... the spec look better then all mentioned phones.
I want a 5.5" phone... I have galaxy s5 and find it too small now lol
I have the ZE550ML (the 5.5 inch 720p 2GB model). It is a different league from the Moto G. The OPO is probably a better comparison. Unless you have extremely sharp eyesight I wouldn't worry about the fact that it is "only" HD - it is very clear and pixels are not visible at comfortable viewing distance (much like the retina iPads). Colours are vivid and true, unlike what I have heard of the OPO. Build quality is also good, a definite step up from the zenfone 5. Again, from what I gather of the OPO that is not guaranteed there due to unreliable QC. Not much difference between the two in performance if benchmarks are to be believed. I think mine scored about 18000 on 3Dmark Unlimited, and is very near the OPO on Antutu. Only pushing 720p helps it fly I suppose. Here is the Antutu result:

Never Heard

i have never heard of this device and would to know more
Just look for reviews of it
Quinnshank said:
i have never heard of this device and would to know more
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one of the best devices at the price range
by the time I reply, you must have got many reviews and more details on this.
better to get a snapdragon device
jkccl9 said:
better to get a snapdragon device
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performance of honor 5c is much better compared to honor 5x, its not snapdragon, just the clock speed, cores and optimisation that matters, kirin is powerful as snapdragon,in some cases even more powerful #mate9.
the only let down is developer support
venom007 said:
performance of honor 5c is much better compared to honor 5x, its not snapdragon, just the clock speed, cores and optimisation that matters, kirin is powerful as snapdragon,in some cases even more powerful #mate9.
the only let down is developer support
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we only need 4 cores, 8, 10 is wasted as no apps use that many or are optimized to. maybe in a few years
jkccl9 said:
we only need 4 cores, 8, 10 is wasted as no apps use that many or are optimized to. maybe in a few years
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i didnt mention about the number of cores. there are many other things like the platform, architecture, and why should we stick with 4 cores if a kernel can intelligently use 8 cores based on the usage????
venom007 said:
i didnt mention about the number of cores. there are many other things like the platform, architecture, and why should we stick with 4 cores if a kernel can intelligently use 8 cores based on the usage????
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i get advancing technology etc, but there is no point in phones having 10 cores in the helio's as they still cant catch up to snapdragon 8xx's overall performance. they are slowly catching up tho and do they really save that much battery life by switching between cores?
But latest kirin is better than the latest SD 821 series(mate 9 vs the Google pixel) check performance review on Xda... battery, performance everything much better than SD 82x series.
shashank1320 said:
But latest kirin is better than the latest SD 821 series(mate 9 vs the Google pixel) check performance review on Xda... battery, performance everything much better than SD 82x series.
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exatly
shashank1320 said:
But latest kirin is better than the latest SD 821 series(mate 9 vs the Google pixel) check performance review on Xda... battery, performance everything much better than SD 82x series.
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The kirin beats it in geekbench scores but SD beats kirin in antutu. The gpu isn't great in the kirin either
For my part I bought this phone about one month and a half ago, I came from a Wiko Wax 4G I bought two years ago at 180€ (approximately the same price as the Honor 5C nowadays) and I'm very happy of this new phone.
The screen is great, without being incredible, the fact it's a 1080p screen is a really good point too. Also, it's maybe the fastest phone for this price range. That being said, I don't know US-specific devices, I leave in french so I only know french devices but for that I've seen that's the best you can find under 200$.
ClementNerma said:
For my part I bought this phone about one month and a half ago, I came from a Wiko Wax 4G I bought two years ago at 180€ (approximately the same price as the Honor 5C nowadays) and I'm very happy of this new phone.
The screen is great, without being incredible, the fact it's a 1080p screen is a really good point too. Also, it's maybe the fastest phone for this price range. That being said, I don't know US-specific devices, I leave in french so I only know french devices but for that I've seen that's the best you can find under 200$.
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Enjoy the new phone buddy
Yeah I enjoy it especially after trying for several weeks to root it and missed to hardbrick the device
jkccl9 said:
The kirin beats it in geekbench scores but SD beats kirin in antutu. The gpu isn't great in the kirin either
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it has improved a lot with kirin960, Mali G71 is a lot better.

Oneplus3 vs xiaomi mi5s plus, which one to get?

Hey guys, I'm really frustrated about this. I know oneplus 3 is a great smartphone. With a couple of problems. Like storage battery and camera. There are various other options out there too especially mi5s plus. Having snapdragon 821, more battery, 6gb of ram ,better camera and more storage 128 gb for almost the same price. Availability is not a problem as I'm in China. So guys please help and guide me about what should I do and what will be the better buy.
the camera of op3 is great. it's awesome. the real problem is people; they don't know how they can take good pictures with it. Most of the time, the photos of op3 are even sharper than S7 Edge pics...
with manual photography option you can take even more great pictures.
OP3 is a Leader in performance. you can compare it to everything (except iphone). The Dev Support of OP3 is just incredible. and don't forget about price...
So i can clearly tell that Oneplus 3 is sort of best android phone you can buy right now... don't let people and reviews fool you...
Which country do you live in and does the Mi5S support LTE there? Here in the US, no LTE at all.
i have the same question right now...
the only thing that make me hesitating about Xiaomi
is:
1- its not fully supporting all LTE frequency in France as Oneplus 3
2- it based on marshmallow 6.0 while Oneplus 3 on 6.0.1
while for Xiaomi
1- newer processor 821 vs 820
2- faster charge
3- bigger storage 128 vs 64
4- 2 cameras of 13mb vs one 16mb
5- bigger battery 3800 vs 3000
for price, it does not make that difference 2500 CNY vs 2600 CNY in china (375 $ vs 390 $)... 15$ !!!!!!
for warranty, in Europe, we don't have official dialer for both of them
for support, both of them supported by XDA
for both of them, as i live in Europe, i have to buy it through internet dealer
but this is not a problem for you since you are already in China
alirezamatrian1 said:
the camera of op3 is great. it's awesome. the real problem is people; they don't know how they can take good pictures with it. Most of the time, the photos of op3 are even sharper than S7 Edge pics...
with manual photography option you can take even more great pictures.
OP3 is a Leader in performance. you can compare it to everything (except iphone). The Dev Support of OP3 is just incredible. and don't forget about price...
So i can clearly tell that Oneplus 3 is sort of best android phone you can buy right now... don't let people and reviews fool you...
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Yeah I know, ofcourse but the real problem is the storage. And the new xiaomi mi5s plus is the new leader in performance it's benchmark has landed it above even the one plus 3 and the dual camera setup takes way better pictures. But there is OIS in it and the design and finger print reader makes me a little worried in buying it.
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Which country do you live in and does the Mi5S support LTE there? Here in the US, no LTE at all.
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I plan to stay in China for a while. But personally what do you think about this ? I don't like the design of the plus varient
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i have the same question right now...
the only thing that make me hesitating about Xiaomi
is:
1- its not fully supporting all LTE frequency in France as Oneplus 3
2- it based on marshmallow 6.0 while Oneplus 3 on 6.0.1
while for Xiaomi
1- newer processor 821 vs 820
2- faster charge
3- bigger storage 128 vs 64
4- 2 cameras of 13mb vs one 16mb
5- bigger battery 3800 vs 3000
for price, it does not make that difference 2500 CNY vs 2600 CNY in china (375 $ vs 390 $)... 15$ !!!!!!
for warranty, in Europe, we don't have official dialer for both of them
for support, both of them supported by XDA
for both of them, as i live in Europe, i have to buy it through internet dealer
but this is not a problem for you since you are already in China
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OMG borther!!!
Same thinking, but I actually think the fast charging on op3 is alot better and the fingerprint reader seems to be faster then 5s plus. Also the design the main thing that is making me think the decision of buying plus. I really love op3 but this storage is really making me think. As 5s plus is almost the same price for double the storage with better performance and camera. I hoped that they would make the 5s plus also look a little better in term of design.
You know I have Mi5s plus and I don't observe any lags in finger scanning. Also it is located in Perfect place. I had S7edge and Home Button sometimes got me frustrated. And about LTE800- yes it is a bit confusing to go outside of big cities and have only UMTS speed. But for me is not a very big issue because I dont transfer huge files over mobile data. The big problem is OTG support - it is not supporting external hdd drives and even ssd disks. I used sucessfully only pendrive with 64gb- this is the thing which gives Mi5s plus a big minus. Rest are Perfect.
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X2 Vs X2 pro

Does anyone else feel that X2 offers more value for money than X2 Pro or is it just me?
I mean the difference in performance between 730g and 855+ is very little and shouldn't hold anyone back from having a smooth performance on both SoCs.
Same goes with 90Hz display, you'd probably see a little more smoother transition but so little that you won't even notice that in daily usage.
Any other major difference worth paying about $170 more?
For me, it was the back panel design that killed my desire to buy X2 Pro.
Jeanz Sensation said:
Does anyone else feel that X2 offers more value for money than X2 Pro or is it just me?
I mean the difference in performance between 730g and 855+ is very little and shouldn't hold anyone back from having a smooth performance on both SoCs.
Same goes with 90Hz display, you'd probably see a little more smoother transition but so little that you won't even notice that in daily usage.
Any other major difference worth paying about $170 more?
For me, it was the back panel design that killed my desire to buy X2 Pro.
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I am planning on getting Realme X2 there will be no real-life difference in opening apps
apart from heavy gaming which could still be in split second. I don't plan to do heavy video editing on phone either so I'll say,
Yes, stick with X2 that ~$200 more is not worth it at all.
Oh! and that Logo placement on the X2 pro WTF!!!
I agree with you, also.
I've almost decided to buy the Realme X2 to replace my Nokia 7+, in my case the X2 Pro isn't suitable because of the lack of MicroSD slot and it's 150 € more for a marginally better SoC, Screen, quick charge and cameras.
Regards!
I was torn betwixt the X2 and X2 Pro, but upon looking at things more closely I think I also will be going for the X2 and saving a bit of money. Besides, I don't use my phones for gaming so the 855+ and 90Hz screen may be a tad overkill for me just using it phone, take photos and run apps.
It was the dedicated SD Card Slot for me.
Jeanz Sensation said:
Does anyone else feel that X2 offers more value for money than X2 Pro or is it just me?
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For me, it was the back panel design that killed my desire to buy X2 Pro.
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I agree but it was the lack of dedicated SD Card slot in the Pro that was the deciding factor in my decision to by the X2.
What's the point of having a dual SIM phone if you need to use the second slot for memory? I love that the X2 has 3 slots instead of only 2 with one being a hybrid.
Was looking at the pro till I realized this is just better value,
Currently contemplating my next move,
X2 has dual SIM
PLUS
SD-Card Slot
The most important feature ever. Yet so few phones have it nowadays.
OnlyHazeRemains said:
X2 has dual SIM
PLUS
SD-Card Slot
The most important feature ever. Yet so few phones have it nowadays.
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Yea,this a big advantage and the SD 730g is no slouch.Just Wondering about the cameras,how different ate they,seems 8mp instead of 13mp on one of the lenses(can't find definitive answer online).
But you get a 32mp front camera on the x2.
I guess your just missing out on the nice features of the pro,UFS 3.0,dual speakers,90hz,but is that even that important in 2019
For me two things are very important:
GCAM and Support from XDA.
I had a MI8 SE and it suffers this kind of problem.
I will wait a little bit more to see if X2 will have roms to be ported and if the support for GCAM will be good.
Hi guys sobI wanted to buy a phone around $300 and i've (almost) decided on X2. I will be probably ordering it from the EU site. Have anyone got theirs already? How is it? How's the sound quality on headphones? And overall feeling?
ma_ko said:
Hi guys sobI wanted to buy a phone around $300 and i've (almost) decided on X2. I will be probably ordering it from the EU site. Have anyone got theirs already? How is it? How's the sound quality on headphones? And overall feeling?
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Having done research I think you might want to get a Mi 9T just for the better software and camera processing,the x2 does have an SD slot but other than that I think it's probably a weak phone for daily use. Ive heard reports the x2 screen is poor,not very bright.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/realme-x2-global,realme-xt-730g-india-8gb-128gb
Basically we wait till the "Realme XT 730G" releases in India and BAM we get custom ROM support.
Its the same phone.
manus31 said:
Having done research I think you might want to get a Mi 9T just for the better software and camera processing,the x2 does have an SD slot but other than that...
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Your statement does not appear to be confirmed in actual test results (from 5 minutes onward):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bmQpNkoh3w
Even if you don't understand Spanish, the test results are labeled, so it's easy to see which camera is which. Overall, as a photographer, I give the win to Realme. And if video is your thing, then really, you are wasting your money on a Mi 9T, since the Realme makes intelligent use of it's gyro sensors to give 1080p footage that rivals putting your phone on an actual gimbal (such as DJI Osmo, for example). It's not quite as good, but speaking as an owner of various gimbaled devices, it's about 80% there.
I thought that x2 EU 8gb ram 128 gb storage ufs 2.0 for 279euro is the best deal, but I bought x2 pro EU 12 gb ram 256 gb ufs 3.0 for 449euro. The reasons:
the biggest and the fastest storage x2 ufs2 x2 pro ufs 3.0
display is the same as oneplus 7t
Dolby stereo sound
One of the fastest chargers 50w
Better camera
Better build quality
For me this is the phone of the year
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I thought that x2 EU 8gb ram 128 gb storage ufs 2.0 for 279euro is the best deal, but I bought x2 pro EU 12 gb ram 256 gb ufs 3.0 for 449euro. The reasons:
the biggest and the fastest storage x2 ufs2 x2 pro ufs 3.0
display is the same as oneplus 7t
Dolby stereo sound
One of the fastest chargers 50w
Better camera
Better build quality
For me this is the phone of the year
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Was close to pulling the trigger on that over the weekend with that deal but didn't because not sure about the software and future software support,
Definitely by specs it is the flagship killer phone of the year,
If I could get the 8/128 model for around €400 I might consider that because even at 449 for 12/256 it was costing about 470 to 480 to get delivered from amazon Spain to where I am
manus31 said:
Was close to pulling the trigger on that over the weekend with that deal but didn't because not sure about the software and future software support,
Definitely by specs it is the flagship killer phone of the year,
If I could get the 8/128 model for around €400 I might consider that because even at 449 for 12/256 it was costing about 470 to 480 to get delivered from amazon Spain to where I am
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Color OS 7 is coming, may be in 2-3 months, It will be something like Oxygen, a bit worse but very close. There is gcam 7.2 for Color OS 6. I've paid 449 euro plus 11.6 euro delivery. Great blackfriday deal, thank you Amazon.es.
X2 is good deal, but x2 pro 256 is almost oneplus 7T with more storage for me fantastic deal.
I'm agree with you.i am also think that Realme X2 is better than X2 pro.perfomance not like very big difference in X2 and X2 pro.But Budget have big difference..That's why i prefer for buying Realme X2.
Agree,
The only practical difference between these two devices is one x2 pro is more gamer focused than x2.
But x2 is half the price of pro so its more value for money than pro

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