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Basically, I'm thinking about trading in my Nexus for an HTC Rezound. Don't get me wrong: I freaking love this phone, and have been dying to get it for months. There's nothing wrong with it.
My issue is that I'm a flash-o-holic. Now that the Rezound has an unlocked boot loader, I'm worried that it will have more ROM options.
With the Rezound, I'll eventually be able to run ISC. it can run sense roms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like with the Rezound I'd be able to flash everything I could with my Nexus PLUS all of the 2.3 and Sense roms, right? and that means more options.
So, I need some clarification:
Can the Nexus run anything other than 4.0 based roms? (like 2.3 based ones)
Can the Nexus potentially run a Sense rom?
With the bigger development community of the Nexus, am I better of staying where I am?
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I don't think the GNex will have developers that will make ROMs based on older versions of Android... I mean why would they? I feel like the dev community of the Galaxy Nexus will be bigger than the Rezound's. This is a Nexus device and Google has amazing support for their Nexus phones. I doubt the Nexus will have a Sense ROM...
There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
Check out my post here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12696-ro...rnel-12262011/page__view__findpost__p__334056
Stick with what you have, this is the best phone for flashing roms. This will have the best support considering the support it has already.
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I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry, so I want the focus in this thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
I honestly feel like the Galaxy Nexus will have more developers because it's a Google phone. It's practically made for developers so I say just stick with this phone. It has the direct support from Google and there is no middle man between software and hardware.
tifford said:
I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
There's been enough of the Rezound vs Nexus threads and I'm sorry. I want the focus if thus thread to be only on the differences in the development, development communities, and which will have a bigger variety of ROMs...
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Someone is trying to port touchwiz to the Nexus for God knows why.. I doubt we will ever have sense but I don't see the reasoning you have offered, OP. Saying that you always have sense to go back to to me sounds like you'll always be able to go back to stock sense if an ICS rom doesn't workout or something along those lines.. I know having sense means more options, but anything 2.3 will always be inferior to 4.0 in my eyes.
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Not sure why you'd strive to flash 2.3 Sense ROMs on any phone if something newer was available.
You do realize that once HTC starts releasing Sense ICS ROMs, the devs will stop working on the 2.3 ROMs, right?
Just remember, development for a Nexus will always be solid.
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There are plenty of ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus right now... it's just that not all of them are on XDA. Check out Rootzwiki for more ROMs! I recommend axi0m 2.1.
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I'm on axi0m 2.1 right now... its awesome with tons of options.
there are tons of roms out there for the nexus already, but they're all basically the same. Yes, AOSP vs CM9 has its differences, but they're different hues of the same color. I want colors, dammit! and I'm sure it'll get there...
I guess I'm just worried that it'll always be ICS with some slight twists, instead of 2.3 AOSP vs cm7 vs miui vs sense vs ice, etc. I like the idea of having all of those options
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i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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I believe Vicious is working on MIUI for the GNex.
even though the Rezound realistically is the only competition for the Nexus, there:s just the whole "S-OFF" issue. last i heard, they're still trying to acheive that thus no roms yet.
tifford said:
i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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Remember that the Galaxy Nexus (specifically the VZW version) hasn't exactly been out long enough for there to be 100's of ROMs. Not to mention that it's the first and only ICS device right now.
ALL Recent HTC Phones now are unlockable courtsey of HTC themselves
Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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They still need s off to be able to fully do everything, all that's doing right now is unlocking part of boot loader but from what I hear they still can't flash custom recoverys. Anyhow I love my G Nex and I came from a Rezound I don't even think about going back at all.
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If Sense means that much to you, maybe you should go with the Rezound (plus it has an amazing screen). Just remember that you won't have access to an optimal ICS build for a while. Sense is cool and all, but ICS is a huge step forward for the android OS.
Plus, the GN will be first in line for all software updates, which will keep its dev community on the bleeding edge. Also, as others have pointed out, dev support will be much stronger (and probably longer lasting) for the Galaxy Nexus.
The Nexus is a dev device... doesn't get more from friendly than this.
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Going from ICS 4.x back to anything 2.3.x is like wiping before you poop....pointless!
Nexus has several advantages.
1) bigger screen, hopefully devs will be able to utilize the full screen for all apps
2) virtual keys
therefore even with both having ICS, it won't be exactly the same. (rest of the hardware is debatable as both have pluses and minus - like screen tech/sd card/etc)
Besides, nexus is likely far more popular so the number of devs attracted to this device will likely be much higher.
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Not exactly sure what S-Off is but all recent HTC phones are capabable of an unlockable bootloader thanks to HTC themselves. This includes the Rezound. HTCdev.com
http://www.htcdev.com
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/28/htc-makes-all-handsets-released-since-september-2011-unlockable/
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/htc-super-tool-unlocks-bootloader-roots-most-devices/
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sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
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sure the manufacturer offers the 'unlock' ability, but the carrier has the final say. both the rezound & the droid razr have the ability to be unlocked, but verizon wont let it happen. so with the rezound, since the devs cant get htc to permit the unlock(again, thank you verizon) they've just been attempting a work around now since the phone's been out and to this day are still struggling with it. so no roms/kernals/etc yet.. just a b.s. "temp root".
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Dude.. the Rezound's bootloader has been unlocked, even on Verizon. They're S-ON but with an unlocked bootloader.
What would be a logical upgrade from my desire?
i'm looking for a new phone, but all i really want is a desire with a bigger screen and preferably a dual core processor (OFC as it is a new phone i expect it to be updated to ICS, is this expectation wrong)
What is also important for me would be the modding community, there are so many people modding the desire, with so many roms, and awesome mods. I hope for something near that in a new device.
I don't really care if it's from the US or EU, as long as it works on the GSM band we use in denmark. but it would be nice if it was available in the US as they are usually cheaper over there.
What would be a logical upgrade from the desire?
So it said... You want an HTC phone with dual-core processor? As for now it's HTC Sensation & Sensation XE) and of course, EVO 3D)
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iYappi said:
So it said... You want an HTC phone with dual-core processor? As for now it's HTC Sensation & Sensation XE) and of course, EVO 3D)
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Well really it doesn't have to be made by HTC, i really like the new android barebones interface on ICS
i also need to know, does the fact that an American phone supports GSM mean that it will accept one of my fancy european SIM cards (heard that CDMA doesn't need a sim card)
Beaverman20 said:
Well really it doesn't have to be made by HTC, i really like the new android barebones interface on ICS
i also need to know, does the fact that an American phone supports GSM mean that it will accept one of my fancy european SIM cards (heard that CDMA doesn't need a sim card)
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I'm from Russia myself, and I'm using a SIM-card too) as I've heard, some of the US operators (like AT&T and T-Mobile) are using GSM bands, so... There should be an American GSM versions of those phones. Well, if you want ICS - take a look at Google Galaxy Nexus...
PS: The CDMA-2000 phones use R-UIM cards instead of SIM. In our county...
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I'm from Russia myself, and I'm using a SIM-card too) as I've heard, some of the US operators (like AT&T and T-Mobile) are using GSM bands, so... There should be an American GSM versions of those phones. Well, if you want ICS - take a look at Google Galaxy Nexus...
PS: The CDMA-2000 phones use R-UIM cards instead of SIM. In our county...
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This Galaxy nexus could be the right choice, it's rather expensive, but offers all the things i really want.
One question remains tho: will the modding scene be as big as the desire, or even the original nexus?
It seems to me that it won't be so big as for N1 and Desire... Because Galaxy Nexus doesn't have a twin with HTC Sense as N1 does...) But xda thread for Android development for GN has already about 70 topics... And there are roms, kernels...
Two years ago Desire was the mainstream phone... Galaxy Nexus is the top-class... There won't be so many people having it, IMHO...
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IMO,
The Desire S isn't a true upgrade over the original Desire.
The Desire was tthe top end phone in 2010.
In 2011 it was the Sensation that succeeded it.
The Legend was the stylish mod range phone in 2010
In 2011 the Desire S was the molid range stylish phone
So I think the sensation is the true successor
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This is a very difficult question.
I have also been pondering an upgrade. The way I see it we have Four Choices.
1) Samsung Galaxy SII (sorry, I know it is not a HTC, but I thought it was worth mentioning).
2) HTC Sensation XE
3) HTC Evo3D
4) Wait until March when new phones will be announced.
The thing which bothers me most about the Sensation XE and the EVO3D is that the screens appear to looked washed out compared to my Desire. In my opinion the Inedible S is the only new(ish) HTC phone with a nice(ish) screen.
Just wish HTC used AMOLED again like that did with the Desire.
John
Beaverman20 said:
This Galaxy nexus could be the right choice, it's rather expensive, but offers all the things i really want.
One question remains tho: will the modding scene be as big as the desire, or even the original nexus?
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Definintely. all the nexus phones from google are "developer" phones.
Unlike the desire or other non-google partner devices, when google releases source code for a new android version, they also release the proprietary files (drivers etc) in order to compile the source fully for the device without the need for hacks like we see here. Of course google will eventually stop updating the devices like they did the N1 but, they will still attract a large community of developers.
I'd get one if they ever stop letting Samsung make them. Maybe Moto?
I suggest the sgs2. Its in every way better than the sensation. I bought one too.
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Sgs 2, or sensation xl
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Hi,
I plan to buy XL instead of HOX. (I am in Singapore, Singtel offers HOX and XL)
i have 2 questions:
1. Can I apply all the modifications intended for HOX to XL?
2. If no, I dont see any forum for XL, Do you recommend to get HOX instead?
I think XL has LTE, so the ROMs of HOX will not fit and probably rooting is not the same because the XL is in this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538
The AT&T One X forum is for the phone internationally known as the One XL. The One XL has different hardware and radios, so none of the stuff made for the One X will be compatible.
It was pretty stupid of AT&T (and HTC) to call the AT&T version One X. AT&T One X is clearly a OneXL variant (they are not identical). HTC One X (the global one) is completely different hardware.
So there are 3 phones, 2 very similar (dualcores, AT&T and One XL) and 1 completely diff (quad-core tegra3).
One XL vs AT&T One X(L).
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4614&idPhone2=4572
As per your original question, if modifications are very important to you, do first look in "AT&T One X/OneXL" forum and see how the rom scene looks over there. From rom development standpoint, international OneX is better bet but personal opinion, One XL is better phone (sadly not available here in Norway).
asestar said:
It was pretty stupid of AT&T (and HTC) to call the AT&T version One X. AT&T One X is clearly a OneXL variant (they are not identical).
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One XL released much later, but I agree
There were rumours about XL but I didn't think it would come that fast and would had wait for it.
And its the same story with other phones, like Galaxy S3. AT&T version is a dual-core qualcomm s4 based instead of a quadcore. What the hell is wrong with this carrier?
A few years ago htc/samsung renamed their phones for usa, with different look/exterior but same hardware (desire/droid incredible, hero/eris, sensation/amaze/vivid, galaxy s/vibrant/fascinate etc).
And now they go out of their way to have different hardware that looks identical with exact same name..
Thanks.
I guess I better choose HOX over XL.
4G is new in this area,
and development of XL pretty slow and boring, i think.
I posted same question in AT&T forum, till now nobody reply and give the difference.
I found many active roms developer here.
Roms are lovelier here, and more to choose from.
I read more problems, than fixes and good news over there.
no i dont think so,
both have different specs..
btw is it out yet the XL in singapore?how much did it cost?
I have few clarifications to help me decide if a certain rom (or rooting instruction) is applicable to my phone.
(because I dont know if HOX from ATT is applicable to XL from Singtel.)
Lets say I want to do rooting or install custom rom;
What are the BASIC criteria in order for me to say that this rom (or rooting instruction) is applicable to my phone and it wont brick it (if it may brick it)?
What should I check first?
. cpu type? (dual core, quad core?, S4, tegra? where can I find this specs in my phone)
. Firmware version? (1.72, 1.85, 1.?? How do I check again)
. radio??
AFAIK radio is different between ATT and XL (international),
but is ROM still applicable on both even if radio is different?
What the hell/difference of Rogers HTC one X by the way?
I appreciate the response.
General consensus from reviews on the web say XL or Snapdragon One X are faster than Tegra One Xs and are better at battery life.
Community of the S4 seems growing every day I am sure it will have plenty of development, already it has most of the same tweaks as with Tegra ones.
I also was undecided as both work on my country. However, I decided for the Tegra one due to:
1. Easier bootloader unlocking vs AT&T One X
2. Cheaper than imported Rogers/Telus unlocked One X
3. Tegra Zone games: I am not a gamer but I am enjoying the quality of Tegra games
4. Resale value: yes in my country most people will prefer a QuadCore 32 MB than a Dual Core 16 MB phone . They dont know the story behind it unless they are geeks so resale value will hold over time vs SGS3.
asestar said:
And its the same story with other phones, like Galaxy S3. AT&T version is a dual-core qualcomm s4 based instead of a quadcore. What the hell is wrong with this carrier?
A few years ago htc/samsung renamed their phones for usa, with different look/exterior but same hardware (desire/droid incredible, hero/eris, sensation/amaze/vivid, galaxy s/vibrant/fascinate etc).
And now they go out of their way to have different hardware that looks identical with exact same name..
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AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.
Furma said:
AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.
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Excellent point, and yes I believe you are right. However I doubt having 2 different hardwares with same name is any less confusing.
Furma said:
AT&T (and every other LTE carrier) has to use dual core s4 versions of CPU because quad core exynos and tegra3 dont support LTE.
They are now using different hardware with exact same names probably to avoid customer confusion and having 10 variants of the same phone.
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This is true to an extent. I believe tegra does support lte but it requires a separate modem whereas with the s4 the LTE modem is part of the SoC already.
Tbh I would prefer the s4 chip as it rapes the tegra in most benchmarks and battery is better. Htc and nvidia are full of crap, the companion core and all the other "battery saving" tweaks htc implemented (like completely breaking multitasking) are pointless as they just try to make up for the fact htc short changed us with the size of the battery in the HOX. The battery life still sucks.. They should have just put a bigger battery in in the first place a la galaxy s3.. /rant
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I'll lead off by saying that I've really enjoyed by having a developer phone like the Gnex. A while back I purchased a Droid 4 to see how much I missed the physical keyboard. It's been striking to notice the functionality and performance difference between bootstrapped and true unlocked phones. No disrespecting the Droid 4 fans; I just found that the Gnex works better for me.
Like many in these forums, I'm very excited to see what Google has to share on Monday, especially in terms of the Nexus 4. That said, what really is the difference between a Nexus phone and any other phone that has an unlock able bootloader? Specifically, I'm looking at the Samsung Galaxy SIII and wondering what I would get with a Nexus phone.
Thanks in advance for your assistance!
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That said, what really is the difference between a Nexus phone and any other phone that has an unlockable bootloader?
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Nexus phone = Google device (aosp support included).
This should be clear to you if you own/owned a nexus.
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Nexus phone = Google device (aosp support included).
This should be clear to you if you own/owned a nexus.
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That makes sense, and I suppose I wasn't clear with my question. From the perspective of using custom kernels, ROMs, etc., what are the differences between an unlockable phone and a Nexus device? I understand that the Nexus devices come out of the box with a pure AOSP experience, which I acknowledge is very nice. However, if I am planning to use a custom ROM and/or kernel either way, what is the benefit of the Nexus device?
Given the fact that I value and prefer open/unlockable phones, I'm curious about whether it would be worthwhile to hold out for Nexus devices (e.g. Nexus 4) or go with top-notch non-Nexus-but-unlockable devices (e.g. GS III).
Thanks,
Danny
all of the binaries are easily available to the public because of AOSP. this leads to quicker development as far as custom roms are concerned.
also, the bootloader on nexus phones is the easiest one to unlock
As stated above:
Nexus - pure Android UI. Simple adb command to unlock bootloader. Factory images available as soon as Google posts them up online. Source available for quicker/easier development for those so inclined.
Others - OEM UIs. Various tricks or methods required to unlock bootloader. Must wait on carrier/manufacturer to push OTA updates/images. Development of custom ROM hindered by lack of availability of source in some cases.
Also - if you're talking 'unlockable' phones. Just so there's no confusion, a bootloader unlock is a completely different beast from a sim/carrier unlock.
Hi LG guys,
I have general concerns with the amount of dev support that the LG OG series receives. Currently, I am using a Motorola Atrix 4G and I just RECENTLY unlocked the bootloader and rooted it this past weekend and felt a sense of great accomplishment when I completed these tasks after hitting several road blocks. I have to say, I was rather impressed with the amount of relevant information, help, and guides floating around on the Internet a good 1.5 years after its release. I was also impressed with the fact some developers are still working to improve builds.
Unfortunately, I feel a compelled to upgrade my phone since the Atrix 4G does not support LTE. I've been looking at viable options and refuse to go with Apple because I have always loved the Android OS and its possibilities. In fact, I'm even more in love with it now, after being able to put JB on my Atrix.
I did little research and narrowed down my desired upgrade choices to:
Samsung Galaxy S4
LG Optimus G Pro or G2
To be honest, I was set on getting the SGS4 this coming April, however I recently learned that it's likely the S4 will have minimal CM support (if any) and I just can't imagine working with buggy builds for an extended period of time. (I hear the SGS3 still doesn't have a stable CM based build)
So aside from the babble, I was wondering:
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry)
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build?
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ?
4. How has development and support been for older phones?
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention?
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome.
If anyone else has any info that they feel would further allow me to make a well informed decision, please share it. I know that smartphones are released frequently these days, but I'm still in search for a smartphone that can last me at least 3-5 years (silly I know, but I had a Moto RAZR flip phone forever and loved it). I have yet to find the one ;/
1.The community is given by the users.I guess there is no point in developing for no one, right?So, if there will be many G users, the devs will come too. Right now there a few guys working(thanks for that),but the G(at least the E975 i have) is quite new and it takes time to start things.
2.No, CM is not officially implemented yet.It depends somewhat on 1.
3.Can't really answer that,but,as far as i know, LG is more open to devs than samsung.
4.Why don't you look yourself?Search button is a miracle.
5.No, LG makes only 1 flagship,with differences only in camera,storage and lte modem.There is G with 8mpx,16gb storage+microsd slot and G with 13mpx camera,32gb storage and no micro sd slot.But the CPU/GPU/RAM is identical.
6.G is way better than Samsung's plastics.
In the future can you post questions in the section that says "questions".
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kc_exactly said:
In the future can you post questions in the section that says "questions".
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I thought about it, but I wanted to get as much feedback as possible.
Personally, if I was going to get any phone right now, I would get the HTC one, with the optimus as my second choice. It will likely have more users and more developers due to greater availability. It has superior specifications, a better screen, better build quality, and supposedly better software. Our phone is great too, just not as new or popular. The glass feels great.
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One and optimus are different categories.full hd display vs hd display.compare the one with g pro,s4,xperia z.optimus is top android at medium price.at least here at orange romania,the 975 comes with a super docking station included(LG ND5521).only the dock costs 120 pounds(more than 200 dollars).i payed for my g 300 euros,which a great deal.i could've get the s3 cheaper,but you can't compare them.
I think lg got an unfair bad reputation,since the time lg made phones like chocolate,shine...they were crappy phone,always having issues.but google made the right call and let lg make the nexus4.
Basically,our g is an improved n
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kimitza said:
One and optimus are different categories.full hd display vs hd display.compare the one with g pro,s4,xperia z.optimus is top android at medium price.at least here at orange romania,the 975 comes with a super docking station included(LG ND5521).only the dock costs 120 pounds(more than 200 dollars).i payed for my g 300 euros,which a great deal.i could've get the s3 cheaper,but you can't compare them.
I think lg got an unfair bad reputation,since the time lg made phones like chocolate,shine...they were crappy phone,always having issues.but google made the right call and let lg make the nexus4.
Basically,our g is an improved n
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Similar specs and similar price in most regions.
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I think you should include in your basket HTC ONE (M7) and Xperia Z.
Apart of that.
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry) (Not yet, there is a few phones on the market, maybe in the future - People dont like LG, )
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build? (Not yet, but it will)
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ? (Neither of them does, but LG seems to be more open about it)
4. How has development and support been for older phones? (Its a market dependent, so, if your phone have been sold a lot, it'll be supported here in XDA, if not, dont expect too much from LG)
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention? (LGOG has a lot of model, but basicaly they are pretty much the same, all of them has same processor and screen)
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome. (My girl has a SGS3 and I'm used to handling it, LG for sure has better built material)
cheers
tungzta said:
Hi LG guys,
I have general concerns with the amount of dev support that the LG OG series receives. Currently, I am using a Motorola Atrix 4G and I just RECENTLY unlocked the bootloader and rooted it this past weekend and felt a sense of great accomplishment when I completed these tasks after hitting several road blocks. I have to say, I was rather impressed with the amount of relevant information, help, and guides floating around on the Internet a good 1.5 years after its release. I was also impressed with the fact some developers are still working to improve builds.
Unfortunately, I feel a compelled to upgrade my phone since the Atrix 4G does not support LTE. I've been looking at viable options and refuse to go with Apple because I have always loved the Android OS and its possibilities. In fact, I'm even more in love with it now, after being able to put JB on my Atrix.
I did little research and narrowed down my desired upgrade choices to:
Samsung Galaxy S4
LG Optimus G Pro or G2
To be honest, I was set on getting the SGS4 this coming April, however I recently learned that it's likely the S4 will have minimal CM support (if any) and I just can't imagine working with buggy builds for an extended period of time. (I hear the SGS3 still doesn't have a stable CM based build)
So aside from the babble, I was wondering:
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry)
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build?
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ?
4. How has development and support been for older phones?
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention?
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome.
If anyone else has any info that they feel would further allow me to make a well informed decision, please share it. I know that smartphones are released frequently these days, but I'm still in search for a smartphone that can last me at least 3-5 years (silly I know, but I had a Moto RAZR flip phone forever and loved it). I have yet to find the one ;/
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I wont answer all of your questions individually but If I was to buy a phone in the next months, I would go for Sony Xperia ZL. Sony was named OEM of the year for developper support by XDA staff. They have a decent track report of supporting 2011 onward phones.
I also came from a Atrix. It died from the infamous wifi-bootloop-bug-of-death. The LG Optimus G Pro is a Phablet and it might be too large for you. The S4 will likelly get poor developper support since most Cyanogen staff lifted their nose at it.
As of now, the Optimus G dev community is ok but since the phone have yet to be released in Europe, Not many people are working on it. There also is lots different versions of the same phone with some incompatibility. We have CM for the Canadian version but it's not official. Far from it.
Good luck
As some owners says, the new xperia good on paper and terrible in life.
Crappy screen, performance, battery life, a lot of bugs including auto bricks.