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Is it normal for the TP2 picture to stutter when trying to take a picture. If there is perfect lighting in the picture there is no stuttering in the picture, but if there is a light source or if it goes from the dark to a light area it stutters badly as it attempts to balance light levels and focus.
Does anyone else have this issue or is this normal?
When you say "stutter" I suppose you mean that your pics come out blurry due to your device shaking in your hands?
This is normal in low light conditions. Since there's not enough light, the camera compensates by slowing the shutter speed to allow more light to pass through the lens. The bad side to this is the slow shutter speed will also exaggerate any camera movement and this translates to blurry photos unless your device is fixed on a stationary object (and your subject is not moving).
yes! that is exactly what I am seeing. Yeah, i did not know that was normal. the screen refresh was so choppy it is hard to take a clear picture in low light. This is my first nice phone ive had and i am not used to all the features. Thanks for explaining that to me, I appriciate it!
You're very welcome, man. Just so you know, this isn't specific to our TP2. It applies for all cameras. Those with a flash would help a bit, but not much if it is really dark.
If you try to take a picture with any camera outdoors at night without a tripod and flash, it'll come out terrible.
I just laughed when I read the TP2 camera was 3.2 with no flash.
I will never use the camera because the pictures will come out looking like crap 90% of the time.
The camera for me is honestly useless. But oh well, the rest of the phone makes up for it.
camera works good with barcorama app. takes decent pics in well lit areas
Hey guys,
I am having trouble taking good pictures with indoor lighting. The first problem is that the viewfinder (or the image on the screen) is not very smooth. It's jittery and lags and its super annoying. How can I improve the speed of the viewfinder so I can frame shots better?
I also hear that the LG has fantastic low light capability. However, with indoor lighting (fluorescent bulbs) I find the images have a lot of noise and the details appear very muddy and very oil painting-ish.
I don't have any problems during sunlight but indoors, the G4's camera is a mess. It's slow, jiterry and all round annoying to use. Any help would be appreciated!
mufaa said:
Hey guys,
I am having trouble taking good pictures with indoor lighting. The first problem is that the viewfinder (or the image on the screen) is not very smooth. It's jittery and lags and its super annoying. How can I improve the speed of the viewfinder so I can frame shots better?
I also hear that the LG has fantastic low light capability. However, with indoor lighting (fluorescent bulbs) I find the images have a lot of noise and the details appear very muddy and very oil painting-ish.
I don't have any problems during sunlight but indoors, the G4's camera is a mess. It's slow, jiterry and all round annoying to use. Any help would be appreciated!
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I haven't tried it on my G4. But on other digital cameras, I have seen the displayed preview screen image get jerky in low-light when aiming the camera around.
My theory is that, to make the image bright enough, the camera needs to take a longer preview exposure. Capturing the image for the preview screen works the same way as taking an actual picture, of course. In bright light, maybe the sensor takes a 1/500 second exposure to generate the preview. But in low light, maybe it needs a 1/5 second exposure to make the preview image bright enough to be useful on the sccreen. So now it can only take a max of 5 preview images per second, and the screen will look jerky.
The muddy details, and looking like an oil painting, are at least in part due to the image sensor's ISO value being turned way up, due to the low-light conditions. Some of it may be due to the JPG compression settings, and perhaps noise-reduction. Pictures taken with the flash should help with this, as you're providing more light, and therefore the camera can use a lower ISO value, for better image quality.
You could try taking the same picture in Auto, then in Manual mode. Turn the ISO value down in Manual mode (to maybe 200, 400, something like that), and slow the shutter speed as needed for a proper exposure. In the Gallery, you can check the Details for the picture taken in Auto, to check the ISO value that the camera used. Use a lower ISO value for the Manual mode picture, and see if the results look better. Doing this with the flash turned off should help make the difference more apparent.
You can also capture JPG + RAW in Manual mode. The RAW files do not exhibit JPG compression, or other processing, they are straight from the image sensor. So you may get less muddiness and oil-painting effect.
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mufaa, can you post any example indoor pics you've taken? That might help provide some context for what you're seeing.
What are your requirements for the picture?
Do you have a moving subject that demands a fast shutter, or can you afford to use a slower shutter speed?
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mufaa, can you post any example indoor pics you've taken? That might help provide some context for what you're seeing.
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Well, here's one for starters. This is the only non-personal image I can share at the moment (I am at work!) but if it's not enough I will snap one tonight and post it for you.
http://i.imgur.com/5mpaT2h.jpg
Zoom into the picture and you will find details buried in blurry oil painting like smudges. This happens in bright pictures as well. Is this how the sensor on the camera is?
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What are your requirements for the picture?
Do you have a moving subject that demands a fast shutter, or can you afford to use a slower shutter speed?
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I usually shoot with subjects (my family, nephew, etc.) and I need the viewfinder to be fast. Because the viewfinder is so slow, subjects come out blurry even with the slighest movement. I also have to have a super steady hand.
This wasn't the case with the iPhone 6 i had. I just turned on the camera and snapped away.
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Reboot or try force stop on the camera app. I've had mine get like this occasionally but force closing the app or rebooting fixed it when I opened it again.
If that doesn't do it, you could have a bad camera. There were some people complaining about camera problems in early June.
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Oh boy. I will try that. I have rebooted my device multiple times and the result has been the same though.
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somebodyyy doesn't know how to use manual mode for iso
iiEatTurdz said:
somebodyyy doesn't know how to use manual mode for iso
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Any tips?
phineous said:
Maybe try clearing the cache and data on the camera app. Also, check that the laser window next to the camera lens is clean and unobstructed. Most of my pictures, even in lower light are very sharp when zoomed in.
Gotta be a bad camera or focusing laser.
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Can you share some low light/indoor pictures of yours, and what settings you used to take those pics with?
That sample pic does not appear to have the EXIF data where we could check the ISO and shutter speed etc. that you used, can you check on your camera or source image what the settings were?
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mufaa said:
I usually shoot with subjects (my family, nephew, etc.) and I need the viewfinder to be fast. Because the viewfinder is so slow, subjects come out blurry even with the slighest movement. I also have to have a super steady hand.
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The sample picture looks fairly normal to me. That is, it looks like ones I've taken on my G4. I believe the effect you're seeing is partially noise-reduction done by the camera processing, but I'm not 100% sure. A high ISO value will also contribute.
Now I'm wondering if maybe I misinterpreted what you meant in your original post. When you say the viewfinder is slow, do you mean just the jerky image if you move the camera around? Or that the pictures themselves come out blurry?
With only so much light available, the camera typically needs to use a longer exposure to get a bright-enough picture. A steady hand helps, as does OIS, Optical Image Stabilization. But neither of those can help if your *subject* is moving, of course.
You have 2 choices to make a moving subject sharper in low-light:
- Add more light. Use the flash if you aren't already, assuming the subject is within reach of the flash (probably around 10 feet, max). This will change the look of the picture, making it look more "harsh", but the added light should improve the image quality. With more light, the camera can use a quicker shutter speed.
- Raise the sensor's sensitivity, by using a higher ISO value. Effectively turning up the amplification, and allowing a quicker shutter speed. But as most of us have experienced, when you turn up a weak/noisy signal (car radio, etc), you observe more of the low-level background. Static, hiss, and so on. In a picture, this shows up as "noise" in the details of the image, and will typically result in pictures with more of the oil-painting look.
The lens on the G4 is f1.8, and should let in more light than the iPhone 6, at f2.2. It's certainly possible the iPhone does better noise reduction, or things along those lines. I'm not saying the G4's camera is perfect. But it shouldn't be woefully worse in low-light, anyways.
To get a comparison of how ISO affects things, try taking the same, stationary-subject picture, at maybe ISO 200, ISO 800, and ISO 2000. Then zoom in and look at the details of each picture. BTW, every camera will exhibit this behavior.
mufaa said:
Any tips?
Can you share some low light/indoor pictures of yours, and what settings you used to take those pics with?
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it has nothing to do with the cache and stuff lol they sound stupid. just play with the settings. i typically use my outdoor iso from 100-500 depending on what kind of lighting or colors are present. for indoors i set it 500+. just don't go within the thousands if there's no vivid colors or bright lights. try like 500-800 for the iso and 1-1/8 for the shutter.
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The sample picture looks fairly normal to me. That is, it looks like ones I've taken on my G4. I believe the effect you're seeing is partially noise-reduction done by the camera processing, but I'm not 100% sure. A high ISO value will also contribute.
Now I'm wondering if maybe I misinterpreted what you meant in your original post. When you say the viewfinder is slow, do you mean just the jerky image if you move the camera around? Or that the pictures themselves come out blurry?
With only so much light available, the camera typically needs to use a longer exposure to get a bright-enough picture. A steady hand helps, as does OIS, Optical Image Stabilization. But neither of those can help if your *subject* is moving, of course.
You have 2 choices to make a moving subject sharper in low-light:
- Add more light. Use the flash if you aren't already, assuming the subject is within reach of the flash (probably around 10 feet, max). This will change the look of the picture, making it look more "harsh", but the added light should improve the image quality. With more light, the camera can use a quicker shutter speed.
- Raise the sensor's sensitivity, by using a higher ISO value. Effectively turning up the amplification, and allowing a quicker shutter speed. But as most of us have experienced, when you turn up a weak/noisy signal (car radio, etc), you observe more of the low-level background. Static, hiss, and so on. In a picture, this shows up as "noise" in the details of the image, and will typically result in pictures with more of the oil-painting look.
The lens on the G4 is f1.8, and should let in more light than the iPhone 6, at f2.2. It's certainly possible the iPhone does better noise reduction, or things along those lines. I'm not saying the G4's camera is perfect. But it shouldn't be woefully worse in low-light, anyways.
To get a comparison of how ISO affects things, try taking the same, stationary-subject picture, at maybe ISO 200, ISO 800, and ISO 2000. Then zoom in and look at the details of each picture. BTW, every camera will exhibit this behavior.
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"do you mean just the jerky image if you move the camera around? "
Yup. I hate the jerkiness but I guess there's no way to work around that other than decreasing shutter speed and increasing ISO which results in super grainy pics.
I will try the flash light and see if its any better. Usually, I dislike using flash in normally lit indoor places. It doesn't feel natural.
iiEatTurdz said:
it has nothing to do with the cache and stuff lol they sound stupid. just play with the settings. i typically use my outdoor iso from 100-500 depending on what kind of lighting or colors are present. for indoors i set it 500+. just don't go within the thousands if there's no vivid colors or bright lights. try like 500-800 for the iso and 1-1/8 for the shutter.
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Yeah, it has nothing to do with the cache. I will try those settings. Thanks!
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Just run into this older post.
My two cents: to avoid high iso muddiness in indoor lower light portraits, you should turn on the flash (or better, use an external led panel to create off camera light)
Indeed flash photos are unappealing, but you can improve them with Snapseed's selective editing, by lowering exposure and warming temperature on your subject faces.
You could also selectively increase exposure on one side to create a less flat picture.
mufaa said:
Hey guys,
I am having trouble taking good pictures with indoor lighting. The first problem is that the viewfinder (or the image on the screen) is not very smooth. It's jittery and lags and its super annoying. How can I improve the speed of the viewfinder so I can frame shots better?
I also hear that the LG has fantastic low light capability. However, with indoor lighting (fluorescent bulbs) I find the images have a lot of noise and the details appear very muddy and very oil painting-ish.
I don't have any problems during sunlight but indoors, the G4's camera is a mess. It's slow, jiterry and all round annoying to use. Any help would be appreciated!
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I am a photographer and am trying to change over to the new mobile camera trend that started years ago but I do know that with LG, since my friend has one, doesn't have a good sense of lighting, period. I am not trying to put down your device, I do not think you need a new one. A good artist can make art from anything and everything to their best of the ability with what they have. I think you should start trying to do things like opening blinds to a window, putting white sheets of paper around or maybe some gray or black sheets of paper to balance your lighting. Is it at all possible for you to share a visual load of what you're doing with the community? I think it would be valuable to have multiple sets of eyes and have many different minds working with you to solve your problem.
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the LG G5's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
A Bit too Dim
In low light the phone is a bit too dim with auto settings. Similar to the G3.
Missed a chance for a great camera to be amazing!
Ita reliable, fairly stable and of good quality.
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At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the LG G5's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
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a little bit too noisy and green toned when you take a picture in low light condition or in night with artificial light (like yellow street light)
but in manual mode you can set properly the setting (especially the ISO) to remove the noise problem or the green light factor.
Hum maybe we can take pics and post them here but only low light pics
bolillo said:
Hum maybe we can take pics and post them here but only low light pics
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I think this link has better quality:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-D1R0L7NVDIdk42Zld1UWtDUVdsd0ZzRlB2R3lkc2thdEFB
Hi, just sharing as someone asked. It wasn't meant to be a nice image, just a low light example. There are a lot of details and I think it did a good job. Photo is handheld, no flash, auto, main camera.
Note: the acene is actually a bit darker than represented in the photo.
eco_eco_eco said:
a little bit too noisy and green toned when you take a picture in low light condition or in night with artificial light (like yellow street light)
but in manual mode you can set properly the setting (especially the ISO) to remove the noise problem or the green light factor.
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Can you recommend the settings to use? I am new with this phone and have a concert on Wednesday to goto and I would like to get good pics. On my htc one m8 I was able to keep the camera on iso400 and the pics were alright.
batkinson001 said:
Can you recommend the settings to use? I am new with this phone and have a concert on Wednesday to goto and I would like to get good pics. On my htc one m8 I was able to keep the camera on iso400 and the pics were alright.
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depends,
it's manual,
each situation has its own specific settings,
you should study a bit about photography, i'll help you but the guides I know are all in Italian,
alternatively ask someone you know some information, nowadays there are a lot of skilled photographers.
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bolillo said:
Hum maybe we can take pics and post them here but only low light pics
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good idea
Was at the Primal Fear show last night at the mod club in Toronto Canada and zoomed in pics all look like garbage... . Worse than my old HTC one m8. The videos fared a bit better once I got the focus to work, but still aren't perfect, the sound didn't turn out great, must have been way too loud for the phone in its life proof case.
batkinson001 said:
Was at the Primal Fear show last night at the mod club in Toronto Canada and zoomed in pics all look like garbage... . Worse than my old HTC one m8. The videos fared a bit better once I got the focus to work, but still aren't perfect, the sound didn't turn out great, must have been way too loud for the phone in its life proof case.
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Make sure you lens is clean. I keep a cleaning cloth with me all the time. It really makes a HUGE difference.
galr said:
Make sure you lens is clean. I keep a cleaning cloth with me all the time. It really makes a HUGE difference.
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My phone should be pristine in its life proof case. . Does having the camera accessory make a difference?
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My phone should be pristine in its life proof case. . Does having the camera accessory make a difference?
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No it doesn't make a difference in quality.
The fact that your phone is in a case doesnt dismiss you from cleaning some glass. Convert smudges makes photos look pretty bad.
Edit: wait.. Which camera accessory? If camera module then no.
The low light performance is alright on Auto mode but if you know how to take picture on Manual mode then it's a lot better especially with a tiny touch of Snapseed for sharing.
I had to change the camera because the OEM camera began to malfunction with it's zooming. I think it's ok now as the replacement was supposed to be OEM.
Need normal lighting for photos only and autofocus want quickly
Lotta noise in low light-very disappointing, but yes, has good details and yes, clean the camera glass often, it really makes a difference.
Very bad quality, the fault is in lg camera app. With Gcamera the quality is very good, but with this app I cannot save in sd only in internal
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Very bad quality, the fault is in lg camera app. With Gcamera the quality is very good, but with this app I cannot save in sd only in internal
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Except you can save to the sd card and the app itself is decent. Quality too (although it varies from really bad to good)
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Except you can save to the sd card and the app itself is decent. Quality too (although it varies from really bad to good)
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you can save in sdcard with Gcam? I know with lg's camera app you can do that, but I don't use it anymore. It's like the internet explorer in g5.
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Hi Guys any help regarding google camera in low light i'm seeing this artifacts even while i'm taking some
pictures using google cam in low light i can see this artifacts also at Messenger/IG at rear cam
btw im using LGG5 H830 or maybe this is a hardware issue?
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Horrible amount of lens distortion
millab said:
Horrible amount of lens distortion
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And before complaining, I'm assuming you've turned on the big "remove lens distortion" option, correct?
Just posted about this in another thread. Arm stretched out, the pics look great. But up close it's the most distorted and disturbing image ever. HORRIBLE implementation by Samsung.
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Horrible amount of lens distortion
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It has a lens distorsion
Where is the lens distortions setting on front camera... I don't see it or I'm blind
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Just posted about this in another thread. Arm stretched out, the pics look great. But up close it's the most distorted and disturbing image ever. HORRIBLE implementation by Samsung.
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Did you try using the front flash for the selfie?
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Where is the lens distortions setting on front camera... I don't see it or I'm blind
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Its called Shape Correction. Well at least that's what it is called on my Sprint variant.
worst selfie camera ever with the distortion, lack of sharpness, and terrible quality
shape correction is off by default on Sprint version
I broke the camera when I took a selfie No seriously, stop taking selfies, look in a mirror
My camera is broken. It makes me look too good.
Not a sharp/crisp image at all. No idea what the auto focus is looking at but it's not me. I tried turning off HDR, all the effects, etc and just never could get anything NEAR as clean as what my 6P produces with great consistency.
Check out this side by side. The difference is staggering. 6P is not as bright but way too much post processing being done.
http://i.imgur.com/cQVMr9U.png
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the OnePlus 3T come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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Great photos :good:
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I would like to share this
Some photos from dark Finnish winter. "ok" photo quality.
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Some photos from dark Finnish winter. "ok" photo quality.
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Use HQ mode for low light still shots, I find this helps a lot with noise and overexposure, HDRa for all others. Also if you are interested you can shoot raw and develop them with snapspeed. The photo on the left I took was a raw image developed by snapspeed. Pure raw lack any post processing so look awful but allow might greater image tuning due to not being compromised to jpeg.
Camera is very acceptable (not that of My S7 Edge) however it is to my liking....
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Decent quality for a phone, low light need improvement
Like this camera, Dont take to many pictures, just messing around with it!
Not bad, all shots in auto HQ
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Few more on Auto HQ
What is better, hq or hdr?
Outdoors are fine. 2 stars because as soon as you are shooting moving subjects, even tiny moves, the pictures become unusable, blurry mess
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Outdoors are fine. 2 stars because as soon as you are shooting moving subjects, even tiny moves, the pictures become unusable, blurry mess
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Agreed. Photo quality of moving objects is horrible (probably the biggest flaw of OnePlus 3T) and indoors (regular everyday lighting you have in indoors) is quite ****ty. Most of the pictures come out quite blurry. Outdoors is fine!
I actually have discovered that in order to get better indoors pictures you have to set Flash to always ON as it really helps to improve image quality, especially regarding the sharpness, blur and better detail overall.
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Agreed. Photo quality of moving objects is horrible (probably the biggest flaw of OnePlus 3T) and indoors (regular everyday lighting you have in indoors) is quite ****ty. Most of the pictures come out quite blurry. Outdoors is fine!
I actually have discovered that in order to get better indoors pictures you have to set Flash to always ON as it really helps to improve image quality, especially regarding the sharpness, blur and better detail overall.
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I know, but using flash when there's plenty light and any other phone I tried has no difficulties...
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What is better, hq or hdr?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md3Ow6AEwLU
I think HD got renamed to HQ which we have now.
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But basically HDR tries to get both bright and dark areas in the pictures to shown without them being totally black or white. Doesn't always mean that picture is better quality tho, can be a lot worse what it comes to noise etc.
Not sure is this correct but found that HQ mode will reduce the noise when taking pictures in dark.
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Agreed. Photo quality of moving objects is horrible (probably the biggest flaw of OnePlus 3T) and indoors (regular everyday lighting you have in indoors) is quite ****ty. Most of the pictures come out quite blurry. Outdoors is fine!
I actually have discovered that in order to get better indoors pictures you have to set Flash to always ON as it really helps to improve image quality, especially regarding the sharpness, blur and better detail overall.
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Outdoors are fine. 2 stars because as soon as you are shooting moving subjects, even tiny moves, the pictures become unusable, blurry mess
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That concerns me... With kids (and dogs) I rarely have a still target 😯
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YankInDaSouth said:
That concerns me... With kids (and dogs) I rarely have a still target 😯
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Turn off HDR and HQ (which increases the shutter speed to pick up more light) also manual controls are there to help.
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Turn off HDR and HQ (which increases the shutter speed to pick up more light) also manual controls are there to help.
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While that may help, often times with kids there's no time to play with settings... Just point and shoot.
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YankInDaSouth said:
While that may help, often times with kids there's no time to play with settings... Just point and shoot.
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Good point. I mainly need phone camera to take pictures of my kid and I can say that it's pretty much impossible to get good/decent quality indoor pictures while taking a picture of a kid (HQ, HDR modes), except if you set the flash to always ON, where even moving objects come out are pretty good.
If with all my previous phones (no particular order, but phones with which I had no issues taking fast quality pics of my kid -> Iphone 7, xiaomi mi5, galaxy s6, nexus 5x, xperia Z3, xperia Z3 compact) I had no issues getting a decent quality picture of a moving object, with 1+3T its either impossible or very hard to do. It's a fact. Camera is average at most.
jemeljsh said:
Good point. I mainly need phone camera to take pictures of my kid and I can say that it's pretty much impossible to get good/decent quality indoor pictures while taking a picture of a kid (HQ, HDR modes), except if you set the flash to always ON, where even moving objects come out are pretty good.
If with all my previous phones (no particular order, but phones with which I had no issues taking fast quality pics of my kid -> Iphone 7, xiaomi mi5, galaxy s6, nexus 5x, xperia Z3, xperia Z3 compact) I had no issues getting a decent quality picture of a moving object, with 1+3T its either impossible or very hard to do. It's a fact. Camera is average at most.
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Appreciate the honesty... That being said I think I may cancel my order and grab an international S7 (SM930F) - It's $500 on Amazon ATM so very similar pricing.
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