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Optimus G pro arrived today from Korea

My LG optimus Pro arrived today. Great phone. Still adjusting to the screen. I've got a DNA droid which is 1080p and this thing even better in 5.5". Anyone got any root methods I could try on the phone that might work?
I can confirm that there is NO wireless charging out of the box I have a QI charger for my DNA and my G Pro does not work on it. Seems we need that new flip case to get the wireless charging...

Is the screen as reflective and has poor outdoor visibility as gsmarena is saying? There's an 80-character limit in SMS right?

Sharpshooterrr said:
Is the screen as reflective and has poor outdoor visibility as gsmarena is saying? There's an 80-character limit in SMS right?
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Ok compared to my DNA in sunlight its worse off and slightly more reflective. But its better than my wifes 4X HD for sure. Its not a deal breaker. I will try and get a photo up of them in the sunlight.
SMS I get 140 character limit.
I've just rooted the phone too, there is a working method here: http://optimusforums.com/threads/how-too-root-optimus-g-pro-f240-download.7652/
Apparently it can get close to 25,000 in AnTuTu, thats much more than GSMArena posted. I've only managed around 21k. It looks level with the Galaxy S4 score: http://optimusforums.com/threads/optimus-g-pro-benchmark-thread.7653/#post-8078

How is the sound from the back speakers and headphone sound output?
Sent from Galaxy S 3 i747M 32gb

Pretty cool you can root it already! 20+ gb user-available storage just isn't enough for installing apps.

pachi72 said:
How is the sound from the back speakers and headphone sound output?
Sent from Galaxy S 3 i747M 32gb
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Its a decent enough loudspeaker no complaints. Headphone output is clear if a little low compared to my beats DNA. But Poweramp fixes that up a bit.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Pretty cool you can root it already! 20+ gb user-available storage just isn't enough for installing apps.
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Yes imagine the issues I have with 11GB user available on my DNA ;( Battery life doesn't seem as bad as GSMArena make it out to be. Maybe they had the screen on 100% and sync'ing all the time???

Hendrickson said:
Yes imagine the issues I have with 11GB user available on my DNA ;( Battery life doesn't seem as bad as GSMArena make it out to be. Maybe they had the screen on 100% and sync'ing all the time???
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Have you installed DirectoryBind on your OG Pro so you can transfer app data into external sd?

So, should we ask mods 2 open a separate forum section divired 2 F240?
Hendrickson said:
Apparently it can get close to 25,000 in AnTuTu, thats much more than GSMArena posted. I've only managed around 21k. It looks level with the Galaxy S4 score: http://optimusforums.com/threads/optimus-g-pro-benchmark-thread.7653/#post-8078
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Pleeeze-pleeeze-pleeeeze couldn't you run all them benches in my thread and post results there? It would be even better if you could run them as well on HTC DNA so we easy compare them
Glad you bought Pro, envy u. How is the grip in one-hand operation? 76mm width is it umnagable-managable?
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Sharpshooterrr said:
Pretty cool you can root it already! 20+ gb user-available storage just isn't enough for installing apps.
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Wut? How much apps space does average user need? Game caches certainly can be placed on microSD, am I mistaken?
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Maybe they had the screen on 100% and sync'ing all the time???
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I'm certain that they had some zombie process churning up battery constantly, maybe even some system apk cause LG usually has some bugs in their ROMs when some system apps don't go to sleep properly. And screen on 100% is very probably reason of poor battery bench too

Billy Madison said:
Wut? How much apps space does average user need? Game caches certainly can be placed on microSD, am I mistaken?
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As far as I know, you can't keep game data in the external micro sd. Huge Gameloft games eat up to 3gb of storage and none of those can be installed or partially moved to external sd - which is a problem for some, especially for those who have a 64gb external sdxc card. Thank goodness there's DirectoryBind.

Hi,
Then this G Optimus Pro is it wonderful?
Can you give your opinion on the engine please.
I flashed on its design, particularly its big screen without a stylus
I'm in France, I think it will not come here, I can import you think?

Here is the benchmark :laugh:

hamabucon said:
Here is the benchmark :laugh:
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Hi,
you have the G pro?

Will be interesting to compare the Optimus G Pro and the North American version of the Galaxy S4. They're basically the same hardware, just slightly different CPU speeds.
Sent through the telekinetic powers of an Optimus G (E971) running AOKP 4.2.1.

Hendrickson said:
My LG optimus Pro arrived today. Great phone. Still adjusting to the screen. I've got a DNA droid which is 1080p and this thing even better in 5.5". Anyone got any root methods I could try on the phone that might work?
I can confirm that there is NO wireless charging out of the box I have a QI charger for my DNA and my G Pro does not work on it. Seems we need that new flip case to get the wireless charging...
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hi,
where did you buy the G Pro?
i am very interested in it and it propably will never get to germany, so i have to try my luck importing it.
and does anyone know, how much i would have to pay for customs if i send the phone to someone in California?
Do they have to pay customs there? well, propably, but how much?

Sharpshooterrr said:
Is the screen as reflective and has poor outdoor visibility as gsmarena is saying? There's an 80-character limit in SMS right?
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it is not about that this phones from korea has 80 limit sms ..
all what u tap on is APP even sms is an app .. so download gosms pro and u will be happy to send above 160 .. even 320 ..

iEthos said:
it is not about that this phones from korea has 80 limit sms ..
all what u tap on is APP even sms is an app .. so download gosms pro and u will be happy to send above 160 .. even 320 ..
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Is that so? Nice, although I've heard about other Korean phones (Sky) still having SMS character limit issues even after using third party sms apps from google play. I hope G Pro owners can confirm if GO SMS PRO really does solve the character limit.

Billy Madison said:
Glad you bought Pro, envy u. How is the grip in one-hand operation? 76mm width is it umnagable-managable?
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Wut? How much apps space does average user need? Game caches certainly can be placed on microSD, am I mistaken?
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I'm certain that they had some zombie process churning up battery constantly, maybe even some system apk cause LG usually has some bugs in their ROMs when some system apps don't go to sleep properly. And screen on 100% is very probably reason of poor battery bench too
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One hadn grip is fine, however like my note 2 its a slippery one and easy to drop if using commando. Plenty of storage on the phone. I will get some benchmarks up soon. 58 fps on Epic Citadel perfomance mode and 54fps on quality. Screens coming...
Sharpshooterrr said:
As far as I know, you can't keep game data in the external micro sd. Huge Gameloft games eat up to 3gb of storage and none of those can be installed or partially moved to external sd - which is a problem for some, especially for those who have a 64gb external sdxc card. Thank goodness there's DirectoryBind.
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Directory bind can fix that yes, no so for my DNA ;(
Edit: I brought my G Pro from ebay.com a korean seller. Shipped via UPS arrived in 3 days to Spain.

Sharpshooterrr said:
Is that so? Nice, although I've heard about other Korean phones (Sky) still having SMS character limit issues even after using third party sms apps from google play. I hope G Pro owners can confirm if GO SMS PRO really does solve the character limit.
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I have korean Oprimus G F180L and it works...

Hendrickson said:
One hadn grip is fine, however like my note 2 its a slippery one and easy to drop if using commando. Plenty of storage on the phone. I will get some benchmarks up soon. 58 fps on Epic Citadel perfomance mode and 54fps on quality. Screens coming...
Directory bind can fix that yes, no so for my DNA ;(
Edit: I brought my G Pro from ebay.com a korean seller. Shipped via UPS arrived in 3 days to Spain.
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could you please tell me, which ebay seller you got your phone from?

I think I have seen on ebay. It is not 678euros? I fear that if is a counterfeit product

Amoled Screen!!!

Guys really love the nexus line up..eagerly waiting for new nexus 5..the only problem is no AMOLED screen..which i think is the best screen out there..period!!! nexus 4 screen sucks frankly..hope new nexus is a big improvement

Amoled = problems
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and the point of this thread is?

Why did u post this
Amoled is not better then LCD or IPS. Its just oversaturated and has really good blacks. If u want an amoled get a SIV or a Moto X.
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Yeah, you learn that amoled is no good after using it vs a good lcd.

I think apples retina display beats any other smartphone,tablet or computer screen out there, I may be wrong but from what I read it has the best screen you can get

fux0r99 said:
I think apples retina display beats any other smartphone,tablet or computer screen out there, I may be wrong but from what I read it has the best screen you can get
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I don't have anything against Apple, in fact I like it...but this comment is rash. Under what grounds do you justify your claim??

iLeopard said:
I don't have anything against Apple, in fact I like it...but this comment is rash. Under what grounds do you justify your claim??
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The only phone with better screen than iPhone 5s retina is Samsung's S4.

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The only phone with better screen than iPhone 5s retina is Samsung's S4.
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Again, under what conditions?

S4, HTC One an Sony Xperia Z1 are the only smart phones that have screens that beat apples retina.
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iLeopard said:
Again, under what conditions?
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Conditions ?
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Higher resolution an PPI is the only condition you need to know buddy, only reason I said retina was best before is because only until this year other manufactures started to produce better screens mainly Samsung with its gs4, galaxy tab an notebook range.

fux0r99 said:
Higher resolution an PPI is the only condition you need to know buddy, only reason I said retina was best before is because only until this year other manufactures started to produce better screens mainly Samsung with its gs4, galaxy tab an notebook range.
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...What?? So if my old school 2.6" spinach colored gameboy screen was 1600x1440 it would suddenly be the best screen in the world?
While higher PPI is definitely a plus, there are SO many different factors that make a good screen (Color reproduction, contrast/black levels, brightness, white balance etc etc etc).

speedyink said:
...What?? So if my old school 2.6" spinach colored gameboy screen was 1600x1440 it would suddenly be the best screen in the world?
While higher PPI is definitely a plus, there are SO many different factors that make a good screen (Color reproduction, contrast/black levels, brightness, white balance etc etc etc).
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I'm talking about pixel resolution like 1080x1920 not screen size resolution , so if the blacks an colour saturation ect look better to you on a gamboy even though the pixel resolution sucked I guess that's your choice, thanks for the cool story bro.

G2 had probably the best screen next to Apple, it rivals Apple except it doesn't run wide gamut, as Apple does. Not that you notice than anyway. Since n5 is basically a g2, I can't see there will be a diff in the screen between the 2. We'll see pretty soon. Shouldn't be long before it's out.

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The only phone with better screen than iPhone 5s retina is Samsung's S4.
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Ewww... The s4 screen is crap. HTC one's is leaps and bounds the best with the 5s behind it. I think the gnex is better than the s4...
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fux0r99 said:
I'm talking about pixel resolution like 1080x1920 not screen size resolution , so if the blacks an colour saturation ect look better to you on a gamboy even though the pixel resolution sucked I guess that's your choice, thanks for the cool story bro.
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I'm behind speedyink, cool story bro.
What's the use of a display that boost 99999999999 PPI but have a really terrible colour space?
By the way the screen of the xperia z1 is terrible, the viewing angle sucks.
Beamed from my Grouper

Gnex has better screen than S4.... Really, considering both phones are samsung an s4 is 2 years ahead an higher end than a gnex which is a lowend outdated piece of crap budget device I fail to see how you came to that conclusion, you obviously just hate anything you can't afford.
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cstrife999 said:
Ewww... The s4 screen is crap. HTC one's is leaps and bounds the best with the 5s behind it. I think the gnex is better than the s4...
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Lol

fux0r99 said:
Gnex has better screen than S4.... Really, considering both phones are samsung an s4 is 2 years ahead an higher end than a gnex which is a lowend budget device I fail to see how you came to that conclusion.
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Lol
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How is the Gnex a "budget" device. It was top end at its time. Just because something is new doesn't mean it's better than what came before it. You honesty think the S4 screen is better than the Gnex? That's crazy dude. One of the better screens still belongs to the original Motorola Droid. Really underrated screen. I would also say the Iphone 4 screen kills the s4. That screen is just terrible... To each their own, but I don't see how anybody thinks it's good. It's more oversaturated then the Gnex and is really pixelated...

I am sorry but I guess you're the only person that compares gnexus's screen to s4 To be honest gnex screen was actually the worst amoled I've ever owned. Horrible yellowish whites and horizontal banding that made impossible to apply any lighter (or even deep red) wallpaper.

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How is the Gnex a "budget" device. It was top end at its time. Just because something is new doesn't mean it's better than what came before it. You honesty think the S4 screen is better than the Gnex? That's crazy dude. One of the better screens still belongs to the original Motorola Droid. Really underrated screen. I would also say the Iphone 4 screen kills the s4. That screen is just terrible... To each their own, but I don't see how anybody thinks it's good. It's more oversaturated then the Gnex and is really pixelated...
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GN was never "top end", even when it was released. Its advantage has always been software, never hardware.
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Braneless said:
GN was never "top end", even when it was released. Its advantage has always been software, never hardware.
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... You must live on another planet to believe that... It was THE top end device at the time... What world were you living on?
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I am sorry but I guess you're the only person that compares gnexus's screen to s4 To be honest gnex screen was actually the worst amoled I've ever owned. Horrible yellowish whites and horizontal banding that made impossible to apply any lighter (or even deep red) wallpaper.
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I'm far from the only one.. Far from... Look at the screens and take bias away. S4 is terrible

Terrible lag in OneNote

I was hoping to use my Tab S 8.4 with One Note. However, the lag is terrible on typing! It doesn't matter if I use the Samsung keyboard or SwiftKey. They are both terrible, and it makes the program unusable. I get no lag in the app using my Nexus 5. Anyone see the same thing?

sparhawk6 said:
I was hoping to use my Tab S 8.4 with One Note. However, the lag is terrible on typing! It doesn't matter if I use the Samsung keyboard or SwiftKey. They are both terrible, and it makes the program unusable. I get no lag in the app using my Nexus 5. Anyone see the same thing?
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Just tried it on my 8.4 and there is quite a bit of lag when typing. Maybe it's not optimised for the Exynos processor?
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sparhawk6 said:
I was hoping to use my Tab S 8.4 with One Note. However, the lag is terrible on typing! It doesn't matter if I use the Samsung keyboard or SwiftKey. They are both terrible, and it makes the program unusable. I get no lag in the app using my Nexus 5. Anyone see the same thing?
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On my 10.5 I am getting some slight lag but by no means does it make the app unusable for me. This is using the stock keyboard. Of course OneNote is pretty much indexing everything as you type it so it will lag more than just typing in a Web forum or word processor.
One thing I have done is to disable DVFS using Wanam Xposed. This is something Samsung implements which throttles your CPU to save battery life. IMHO it is a dumb idea and causes problems so I turn it off. I've found this improves on keyboard lag system wide so I may be getting better results in OneNote than you are.
Swiftkey is a lagfest for me on any device so can't comment on that.
One other thought. If OneNote is optimized for lower resolution screens that may also be having an effect on how it performs on the Tab S. Just making guesses at this point.
Anyway, so on the 10.5 not perfect but quite usable.

Works perfectly on my ASUS Transformer Infinity TF701. Another example of an app not jiving with the Exynos Processor. Abysmal.......

xRevilatioNx said:
Works perfectly on my ASUS Transformer Infinity TF701. Another example of an app not jiving with the Exynos Processor. Abysmal.......
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Lol, you really need a new word

You guys keep blaming Exynos for everything. 5420 has been out on the N3, N10.1-14, Pros, and even Chromebook since last fall. If anything, I'd say a lot of the general performance issues being lamented have to do with the video drivers being used with the introduction of AMOLED. It's the only thing different h/w wise from the aforementioned devices.

Everyone not happy with their Galaxy tab s, just return them... Then you
Won't have any lag...

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You guys keep blaming Exynos for everything. 5420 has been out on the N3, N10.1-14, Pros, and even Chromebook since last fall. If anything, I'd say a lot of the general performance issues being lamented have to do with the video drivers being used with the introduction of AMOLED. It's the only thing different h/w wise from the aforementioned devices.
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OneNote runs just fine on my Tab S.
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Everyone not happy with their Galaxy tab s, just return them... Then you
Won't have any lag...
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If only they would, if only they would...

Wow, some serious fan boys in here. So you are able to type rapidly?
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mitchellvii said:
On my 10.5 I am getting some slight lag but by no means does it make the app unusable for me. This is using the stock keyboard. Of course OneNote is pretty much indexing everything as you type it so it will lag more than just typing in a Web forum or word processor.
One thing I have done is to disable DVFS using Wanam Xposed. This is something Samsung implements which throttles your CPU to save battery life. IMHO it is a dumb idea and causes problems so I turn it off. I've found this improves on keyboard lag system wide so I may be getting better results in OneNote than you are.
Swiftkey is a lagfest for me on any device so can't comment on that.
One other thought. If OneNote is optimized for lower resolution screens that may also be having an effect on how it performs on the Tab S. Just making guesses at this point.
Anyway, so on the 10.5 not perfect but quite usable.
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Typing nonsense with one hand is not a real test.
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Here's my quick example video. You can see it really bad at the end. There is about a 2-3 second lag from me typing to it appearing on the screen. After a few sentences, the lag makes typing impossible. I need to be able to type quickly for taking notes at work.
Can one of you who is reporting no lag type a few sentences quickly, and post the video? I want to find out if I have a defective device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hosh3ceetvM

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Here's my quick example video. You can see it really bad at the end. There is about a 2-3 second lag from me typing to it appearing on the screen. After a few sentences, the lag makes typing impossible. I need to be able to type quickly for taking notes at work.
Can one of you who is reporting no lag type a few sentences quickly, and post the video? I want to find out if I have a defective device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hosh3ceetvM
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Are you rooted? Can you disable DVFS? I noticed that with DVFS enabled typing would bog down the more I typed. The Tab was throttling due to heating and with DVFS disabled this never happens. This isn't so much a hardware thing as a Touchwiz thing. It may be that typing makes it engage faster with the amoled screen than with other Touchwiz devices. My Note 3 is quite smooth. Have you tried an alternate launcher like Nova?
Or it could be you have a defective tab. Sadly there seems to have been a bad run. People who have had theirs replaced have been much more satisfied. I can't video actually typing sentences but will just try it and see what I think.
** UPDATE: Ok, just typed an entire paragraph in OneNote on my 10.5. Maybe a microsecond laggier than typing here but then again OneNote is indexing and this is not. Still, completely usable and no delays as you are experiencing.
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Have you considered using THUMB KEYBOARD from the play store? It is free and a very fast, well conceived keyboard, especially for use with tablets and the autocorrect is second to none. Give that a try too.

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OneNote runs just fine on my Tab S.
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If only they would, if only they would...
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Didn't you just say you experienced some lag. But it was useable?

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Didn't you just say you experienced some lag. But it was useable?
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Yes, perhaps a nanosecond but nothing like the 3 seconds the OP is experiencing. Imminently useable. I can see how in his use case there is a serious problem. There can be 100 reasons for that nanosecond lag other than the Exynos processor somehow being inadequate.

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Yes, perhaps a nanosecond but nothing like the 3 seconds the OP is experiencing. Imminently usable. I can see how in his use case there is a serious problem. There can be 100 reasons for that nanosecond lag other than the Exynos processor somehow being inadequate.
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It's not that the exynos is inadequate, it's that the OneNote app 'might' not be optimised properly for the exynos processor, which seems to be the case here. Obviously the exynos processor can handle an app like OneNote.
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simacca said:
It's not that the exynos is inadequate, it's that the OneNote app 'might' not be optimised properly for the exynos processor, which seems to be the case here. Obviously the exynos processor can handle an app like OneNote.
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For the OP he clearly has a serious problem. As configured with my 10.5 this is a non issue. If the suggestions I made are not of help to the OP I suggest he consider replacing his tablet with a newer production run model. 3 second input lag is an aberration and not acceptable.
P.S. Lack of OneNote optimization with Exynos may exist but since my experience is so superior to his it leads me to believe the issue is elsewhere. YMMV.

mitchellvii said:
Are you rooted? Can you disable DVFS? I noticed that with DVFS enabled typing would bog down the more I typed. The Tab was throttling due to heating and with DVFS disabled this never happens. This isn't so much a hardware thing as a Touchwiz thing. It may be that typing makes it engage faster with the amoled screen than with other Touchwiz devices. My Note 3 is quite smooth. Have you tried an alternate launcher like Nova?
Or it could be you have a defective tab. Sadly there seems to have been a bad run. People who have had theirs replaced have been much more satisfied. I can't video actually typing sentences but will just try it and see what I think.
** UPDATE: Ok, just typed an entire paragraph in OneNote on my 10.5. Maybe a microsecond laggier than typing here but then again OneNote is indexing and this is not. Still, completely usable and no delays as you are experiencing.
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Have you considered using THUMB KEYBOARD from the play store? It is free and a very fast, well conceived keyboard, especially for use with tablets and the autocorrect is second to none. Give that a try too.
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I appreciate the suggestion, but disabling DVFS had no effect.
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sparhawk6 said:
I appreciate the suggestion, but disabling DVFS had no effect.
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Hmm OK. Did you reboot after disabling? Unless you are having some weird conflict with another app you are using or something about your setup you shouldn't be getting the lag you are.

This is not a well-loved app and apparently a recent version update pissed a lot of people off. I use S Note since Samsung released a Windows version because most of my "notes" are mobile>desktop not the other way around.
S Note for Windows If anyone wants to play with it...
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/usefulsoftware/snote/
Direct download...
http://www.samsung.com/global/download/snotedownload

sparhawk6 said:
Wow, some serious fan boys in here. So you are able to type rapidly?
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Not about being a fan boy, just tired of reading the same thing in every thread. This tablet should have ZERO lag, it is a beast. The screen should NOT be yellowed/distorted at all or be anything except phenomenal. If it's not, then return it for a different one or a replacement.
Like a few have said, there was obviously a bad batch because a few are having issues which I personally wouldn't be satisfied with, BUT others are not experiencing them in the slightest.
If you would like video proof I can make a video when I get off, but I literally have ZERO lag anywhere in this tablet and the screen color is amazing(obviously you'd have to view the video on something other than your tab s for true color reference).
My bottom line is you shouldn't have to pay $600 for something and worry with these defects. There shouldn't even be threads created about it. Return or exchange it. /thread.

anyone switching

To the Galaxy s8 plus. I won't It looks like a nice phone but we all know Samsung and Knox and stuff..Just want to hear from others

I'm not ever going back to Samsung. Too much garbage loaded on their phones and if you root and take it off Knox blows up and you're stuck if you ever have a warranty problem.
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Nope, fool me once, not getting anymore chances.
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I'm waiting to see what the Note 8 has. I really like the pen and the features it comes with.
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I gave the Note 7 a chance after having my last samsung be Note 4, hated it... I was so glad when they announced the recall. I was coming from the 6P and my 6P was faster and smoother than the N7 by a long shot. I did buy the LG G6 just to see how LG felt and I really liked the way it felt in my hands and overall smoothness of it right away... Not sure how they hold up over time like my Pixel has. Wasnt a fan of the power button being on the back tho of the G6. I'm sure I would get use to it but just was awkward for the couple days I used it.

I had the lg g2 and g3, would probably have gone g6 if the pixel XL I got from Verizon had not been unlockable, (came with 7.1). The only drawback to me is I keep trying to use the fingerprint sensor like I did the power button on my lg's, since they are in the same place.
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I see yeah I love my pixel XL so glad mine was able to bootloader unlock I'm on Verizon. S8 has a nice screen that's all they got imo

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I'm waiting to see what the Note 8 has. I really like the pen and the features it comes with.
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Me too but damn it looks like all of the US models with the snapdragon processor will not be able to have their bootloaders unlocked even the SIM unlocked model directly from Samsung. It's so depressing.

LoliSmith said:
Me too but damn it looks like all of the US models with the snapdragon processor will not be able to have their bootloaders unlocked even the SIM unlocked model directly from Samsung. It's so depressing.
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This Pixel is the first phone I've been able to root in at least two years. I'm used to it at this point.
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S8 is pretty much the S7 with a battery that supposedly won't blow up. That's the new upgrade. It won't explode lol.

Pixel/XL is riddled with game breaking bugs. And Google is doing nothing to fix it - every new update only introduces new bugs. I'm definitely switching. To what, I don't know.
Something that actually has hardware features (cause this Pixel XL has NONE) and isn't riddled with bugs.
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toknitup420 said:
S8 is pretty much the S7 with a battery that supposedly won't blow up. That's the new upgrade. It won't explode lol.
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S8 is S7 with a battery that won't blow up. Do you live in alternate facts reality?

nabbed said:
Pixel/XL is riddled with game breaking bugs. And Google is doing nothing to fix it - every new update only introduces new bugs. I'm definitely switching. To what, I don't know.
Something that actually has hardware features (cause this Pixel XL has NONE) and isn't riddled with bugs.
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S8 is S7 with a battery that won't blow up. Do you live in alternate facts reality?
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Holy S. It's called a joke. Calm down.

toknitup420 said:
S8 is pretty much the S7 with a battery that supposedly won't blow up. That's the new upgrade. It won't explode lol.
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There was never anything wrong with the S7 battery.
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nabbed said:
Pixel/XL is riddled with game breaking bugs. And Google is doing nothing to fix it - every new update only introduces new bugs. I'm definitely switching. To what, I don't know.
Something that actually has hardware features (cause this Pixel XL has NONE) and isn't riddled with bugs.
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The lack of wireless charging in the Pixel is awful. That would have been so easy to implement.

I can see folks not liking the lack of wireless charging, but personally I hated it. It has probably improved, but mine was super finnicky about device placement and would often start charging, only to stop five mins later.
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I'm waiting for Note 8 and see what comes of it. I had Note 4 then gave it to wife to get the Note 7 but then ended up on Pixel XL but I haven't had any issues with it and its best running phone I've ever had. If anything I'll be passing this one along to my wife again.

LoliSmith said:
There was never anything wrong with the S7 battery.
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The lack of wireless charging in the Pixel is awful. That would have been so easy to implement.
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Pixel has a partly aluminum back, therefore impossible to implement.
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Gilley said:
I gave the Note 7 a chance after having my last samsung be Note 4, hated it... I was so glad when they announced the recall. I was coming from the 6P and my 6P was faster and smoother than the N7 by a long shot. I did buy the LG G6 just to see how LG felt and I really liked the way it felt in my hands and overall smoothness of it right away... Not sure how they hold up over time like my Pixel has. Wasnt a fan of the power button being on the back tho of the G6. I'm sure I would get use to it but just was awkward for the couple days I used it.
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I'm trying the G6 as well, and I'm really close to taking it back bacause if the power button. Not a huge deal to wake the device but a real pain in the ass to pit it to sleep. Granted there is double tap to sleep but only works reliably on the stock launcher which ive given up on.

only thing i like more is the less bezels of the s8 and the waterproofing. Dont need the raw processing speed and the pixel will still be faster in every day tasks.
If anything ill wait for the S9 or the next pixel.
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oh and i remembered, i dont want a curved screen again, pain in the butt to get good tempered glass. Plastic sfreen protectors just blowm
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msburr87 said:
Pixel has a partly aluminum back, therefore impossible to implement.
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They didn't have to make the back part aluminum and there is a part that is glass, so it is not impossible.

LoliSmith said:
There was never anything wrong with the S7 battery.
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The lack of wireless charging in the Pixel is awful. That would have been so easy to implement.
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Maybe if they made the entire back of glass and put the receiver under the glass....who else did that for the last few years? oh yeah SAMSUNG, so I guess you should get the s8 I don't care for wireless charging, used it a few times on the n6 and that was it. It was more of a "cool" factor than anything. Even if the pixel had it, I would not use it....
I won't be getting the s8, I haven't bought a samsung device since the s3 (when they started rolling out knox, i switched to my nexus 5).

Love the spen so I'd consider note 8 but locked bootloader is totally unacceptable in my book. Plus I've been absolutely spoiled by speed and fluidity of pixel so even without bl issue the decision would be tough but spen and unlocked bl would likely be enough.

Same o' FP sensor as in S10? Very disappointing.

3D Sonic Max... bait and switch?

Uhh, the 3D Sonic Max was introduced in december of 2019 so there's literally no way it could've been on the S10...

What's even more disappointing is the facial recognition.... not impressed...

I can say I had a launch S10 and the fingerprint sensor was garbage.
I got my S20 and set it up and its 1000x better.
If it's the same sensor then Qualcomm must've fixed up the firmware algorithms or Samsung has better software.

Seems OK but never used the S10 phone with the other sensor only the A50 i've tried it on. Not sure if its slower or a little more picky than my S9+ yet but time will tell.

never had any issues with S10's fps and S20's fps also works fine. Maybe user error?

I had both s10 plus and now s20 plus. They are the same in speed after s10 had the fix. Too fast if you ask me.

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What's even more disappointing is the facial recognition.... not impressed...
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I haven't really had any recognition problems. I actually like that it lets you make two profiles if you wear glasses or sunglasses.
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I have no issues with mine. Its a bit slower than my op7pro but it still works pretty quick.
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I created a profile that has both thumbs in it. Just switched left and right thumb every time it asked for another scan. Seemed to improve accuracy.

MarkWahlbergs3rdNip said:
I haven't really had any recognition problems. I actually like that it lets you make two profiles if you wear glasses or sunglasses.
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I created a profile that has both thumbs in it. Just switched left and right thumb every time it asked for another scan. Seemed to improve accuracy.
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yeah I've had problems so I've been using fingerprint only. I may try and register face again and see.

sourabhsrinivas said:
Uhh, the 3D Sonic Max was introduced in december of 2019 so there's literally no way it could've been on the S10...
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That's right, same o' same o' references the disappointing fingerprint sensor found on S10 and Note 10 models.. Then, there was a rumor, before the release of Note 10, about this new, super-duper 3D Sonic Max many people hoped to have on Note 10, when that didn't happen everyone thought(myself included) the S20 will get it, but still, as we can see – no cigar.