Charge/Power via DC (adapter or cable)? - Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories

Any one know of a way to power the Pixel 2 (XL) via DC power port?
I have a power bank that can offer a higher voltage through a DC port along with the regular 5v 2.1amp usb port. I know it's a stretch, but I'm hoping it could mean the quick charge capability than the trickle I get from the 2.1amp usb port.
I have already purchased and attempted this. It did not pan out. And that was the best (available, in stock, rated) looking cord/adapter I could find!
I imagine the brand new Pixel 2 XL has more complex hardware given to power itself and it probably isn't close to how the new macbook's architecture is, so I have my doubts as to if this is even viable at all. But, I figure, it would be a good idea to ask here in the slight chance...
Thanks in advanced!

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[Q] Galaxy nexus MHL/HDMI

Hello guys,
Lately I have been using the MHL/HDMI cable for gaming on my Galaxy nexus to play Modern combat 3. Since i'v tethered my dual shock controller through bluetooth, Wifi is on for online playing, and the screen is on while playing, always run out of juice!! Even though my phone is plugged to the charger.
so i have been wondering if any of you guys could help me put my screen off while plugged into MHL/HDMI. Or help me under volt. thank you
Are you sure your using the correct charger?
Try a 10watt USB iPad charger.
am using the apple 10W USB Power adapter. input: 100-240v ~0.45A.... 50-60Hz Output: 5.1V 2.1A
the white block one
I think the nexus is limited to 1A. Not sure if the limit is changed when using mhl. Also, heat is a factor. It might be possible to get longer play times if you have air flow all around your nexus to keep it cooler. Meaning elevate it without a cover on. And maybe a fan blowing on it.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
When you charge go to phone status in the settings does it say charging Ac or charging usb ? if it says charging usb there's your problem.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
MHL is limited to 500ma per spec.
http://www.mhltech.org/about/FAQs.aspx
Q. 4
Pogo pin charging seems like our only hope.
Came here to ask the same question as no matter what adapter I used it showed charging USB which for gaming isn't enough by a long shot. Good to know i'm not the only one.
Is there a way to get the kernel to ignore the type of connection and draw as much power as is possible? Similar to how many of the tablet kernels were modded to allow charging over USB and not just the adapter that was packaged with the device.
staticx57 said:
Came here to ask the same question as no matter what adapter I used it showed charging USB which for gaming isn't enough by a long shot. Good to know i'm not the only one.
Is there a way to get the kernel to ignore the type of connection and draw as much power as is possible? Similar to how many of the tablet kernels were modded to allow charging over USB and not just the adapter that was packaged with the device.
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Has anyone tried a charge only cable? These are the cables which have a short across the data pins. I know it's a long shot since the AC charger should cross the same data pair.
I hope there is some XDA magic that can be applied to draw more current. I have a feeling it will require a hardware tweak of the MHL adapter and driver level hacking of the silicon image chip.
I have tried a few different AC adapters including the blackberry, HTC, and a random LG charger and they all showed as charging as USB and not AC. I would imagine it is in all MHL adapters and/or the phone.

Compatible chargers

I come from a Nexus 6P that also had a USB C port. Today I needed to charge my phone and the 6P charger was next to me. But, knowing all the issues there are/were with USB C, I decided to search before using the charger and I found this article:
http://www.androidcentral.com/my-htc-10-hates-pixel-c-charger
After reading this article, I found some threads speaking about this and decided that I would stick with the official charger only.
But, I got curious. When this information came out, the phone was pretty new. Were there any new findings regarding this in the meantime? Is it really mandatory that I only use the official charger unless I want my phone to turn into a Note 7?
dastinger said:
I come from a Nexus 6P that also had a USB C port. Today I needed to charge my phone and the 6P charger was next to me. But, knowing all the issues there are/were with USB C, I decided to search before using the charger and I found this article:
http://www.androidcentral.com/my-htc-10-hates-pixel-c-charger
After reading this article, I found some threads speaking about this and decided that I would stick with the official charger only.
But, I got curious. When this information came out, the phone was pretty new. Were there any new findings regarding this in the meantime? Is it really mandatory that I only use the official charger unless I want my phone to turn into a Note 7?
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Google does not support Quick Charge technology forced by Qualcomm. They go with proprietary USB Power Delivery. So no wonder Google charger does not work with QuickCharge enabled phones.
I think HTC is to blame here though. They should have gone with USB C standards, not Qualcomm's.
So, we should stick with only the official charger I guess?
You can basically use any charger but just to be on the safe side I would stay away from the USB-PD chargers. USB Power Delivery and Qualcomm Quick Charge differ quite a bit.
"Any charger" being anything that's a basic 5V USB charger whether it's a 1A or 1.5A or 1.8A or 2A or 2.4A... Or any Quick Charge 2.0 or Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
And if you want to be extra safe, only buy chargers from reputable brands and in the case of Quick Charge chargers, pick one from the certified list.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list (PDF)
If you come across a QC charger that's not on the certified list, you can ask yourself: has the manufacturer certified any other products? If they have, you're pretty much good to go. If they haven't, well ask the manufacturer why they haven't certified any QC products they make. Another good question for a charger manufacturer would be to ask what power controller are they using in that product? If the power controller is certified then, well, that's that. I'd say you're good to go as the power controller is the brains of the whole operation.
I personally have a Tronsmart CC2TF charger in our car, it's not on the certified list but they have certified a dozen different accessories in the past so I'm not even slightly worried. They make good products.
P.S. @cavist Qualcomm doesn't force anything. If an OEM doesn't want to use Quick Charge on their device then they will not use it. Whoopdy doo, big deal.
Also USB-PD is non-proprietary, royalty-free spec in contrast to the proprietary, royalty-free Quick Charge spec.
P.S. @cavist Qualcomm doesn't force anything. If an OEM doesn't want to use Quick Charge on their device then they will not use it. Whoopdy doo, big deal.
Also USB-PD is non-proprietary, royalty-free spec in contrast to the proprietary, royalty-free Quick Charge spec.[/QUOTE]
I mismatched the words and meaning, thanks for correcting this. As for forcing issue, I meant that almost every device with Snapdragon with QC is using that feature and the company is advertising their power delivery standard which anybody would expect opposite to Google which is relying on approved USB PD specification. It is strange that so many big companies choose the QC and not proper USB PD in its place while having a free hand in choosing the charging standard.

Why the lack of USB PD + USB A Wall Chargers?

There must be a technical reason behind this. Does anyone have any ideas?
Specifically talking about PD capable chargers.
Tronsmart came out with the W2DC/W2DT, which they discontinued probably because the USB-C did not work well, or at all with Nexus 6P/5X.
Aukey has the PA-Y10 - Which I've JUST discovered now. Does anyone have any experience with this charger?
The rest of the top tier chargers I see out there are "desktop" chargers (requiring a power cable plugged into the wall).
On a side note, can anyone recommend a USB-C PD + USB A charger similar to the ones I've mentioned above aside from these two brands? If someone has positive feedback I'm willing to give it a shot! Was not sure about the brand "ZeroLemon" (which some people said they were just rebranded of some sort).
It just makes it convenient to charge my iPad and Cell Phone and only have to bring 1 Adapter.
Thanks!

Power supply

Although I have two official razer branded chargers which are fine I'm trying to reduce the amount in carrying around and for day to day usage the phones 4000mah battery has not dropped below 15% yet.
I'm planning a trip soon so wanting to cut down on what I am carrying however USB C is now my main standard so you would assume carrying a single razer wall plug with usb is enough.
Currently using
Razer Phone - USBC
Razer Headphones - USB To Micro USB
Razer Nabu - USB to non standard
A RavPower power bank 26800mah with USBC and power delivery.
My Nintendo Switch
The standard razer plug works to charge all the above however the non USBC devices will need to be in the power bank so wanted something as good but with a standard usb port too. Which is why I saw the below and wondered if it was any good to charge the phone as it supports outputs the phone charger doesn't. I don't know much about this so wanted to check it wouldn't damage my phone.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charger-RA...tDescription_secondary_view_div_1515491595656
it will not charge as quickly because its a different quick charge tech than Qualcomm's QC 4+ thats on the Razer. if you want to have both ports then its fine. otherwise invest in a cheap usb-c to usb adapter and use existing plugs:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Te...&qid=1515714700&sr=1-11&keywords=usb+c+to+usb
mikey_sk said:
it will not charge as quickly because its a different quick charge tech than Qualcomm's QC 4+ thats on the Razer. if you want to have both ports then its fine. otherwise invest in a cheap usb-c to usb adapter and use existing plugs:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Te...&qid=1515714700&sr=1-11&keywords=usb+c+to+usb
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Thanks for letting m know i wont bother getting it then as the Razer charger charges everything i carry and the non usbc stuff will just have to be powered by my power bank.
Sorry if mods didnt see this related to the phone but i was trying to figure out the phones power options with some reason to why i didnt just want to use the supplied power block.

60 W Usb Type C Power Adapter

Hi Guys
New to XDA, i was curious if anyone knew if the 60 W USB Type C Power adapter actually fast charges the 3a XL?
I bought it off this guy on ebay and he bought it for the long cable and i was wondering if the 3a XL can even handle charging at that speed. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
The_Deathwalker said:
Hi Guys
New to XDA, i was curious if anyone knew if the 60 W USB Type C Power adapter actually fast charges the 3a XL?
I bought it off this guy on ebay and he bought it for the long cable and i was wondering if the 3a XL can even handle charging at that speed. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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It won't charge any faster than whatever Google set the max wattage to be for the phone charger.
The phone will only draw what it needs and not how much your power supply can pump out. Although I'd suggest against using that charger for your phone.
luigi90210 said:
It won't charge any faster than whatever Google set the max wattage to be for the phone charger.
The phone will only draw what it needs and not how much your power supply can pump out. Although I'd suggest against using that charger for your phone.
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to be fair i felt like i shouldnt use it as i hadnt heard anything about using a higher watt power adapter online, think i will sell it unless there is evidence to say its ok type thing
The_Deathwalker said:
to be fair i felt like i shouldnt use it as i hadnt heard anything about using a higher watt power adapter online, think i will sell it unless there is evidence to say its ok type thing
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Well evidence shows with other devices that it won't over draw. Look at universal laptop adapters, some factory adapters use 50w adapters but universal ones are sometimes as high as 80w and those laptops don't burn out thanks to protection circuits that prevent overdraw. The phone will only draw what it needs and not what the power supply is capable of powering.
It will be safe to use but personally I wouldn't use it, there is no need to use such a high power adapter not to mention it might not trigger quick charging(since those use chips in the charger to tell the phone it's a quick charger) so it could charge as fast as a regular charger.
Using a higher watt power adapter shouldn't harm the phone, but it certainly will not make the charging any faster. The phone will only use the amount of watts that it needs and the "extra potential power" of the higher wattage power adapter will simply not be used.
Basically that adapter will supply up to 60 watts, but it isn't forcing 60 watts into the phone. That's because all electric devices draw power. Another way to think of it is a mosquito on a person. A person has more blood capacity than a mosquito can handle but because a mosquito draws blood from the body, it takes only what it needs. Electricity works the same way.
sic0048 said:
Using a higher watt power adapter shouldn't harm the phone, but it certainly will not make the charging any faster. The phone will only use the amount of watts that it needs and the "extra potential power" of the higher wattage power adapter will simply not be used.
Basically that adapter will supply up to 60 watts, but it isn't forcing 60 watts into the phone.
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might sell it then, i dont need a 60 watt charger to be honest. Might look at getting a dock for the phone so it acts like a Alarm clock with the money. It cost the original person £60 to buy it which is alot.....does come with a 2m cable which is nice but a bit too long for me and suggests its more for a pixelbook or something

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