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How does Google handle the uploading of mp3s that were not legally purchased? I've read articles saying that Google will remove such files from its cloud storage. Lets say I have a "friend" who happened to upload around 4,000 songs to Google Music about a month ago. So far, nothing has been removed or flagged. Is there any truth to the below statement, or is Google just covering it's rear against the RIAA?
"Google has a variety of tools at its disposal to identify illegal files. Via a method known as digital music watermarking, record companies can encode files with a variety information, including when and where the song was purchased..."
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gabster21 said:
How does Google handle the uploading of mp3s that were not legally purchased? I've read articles saying that Google will remove such files from its cloud storage. Lets say I have a "friend" who happened to upload around 4,000 songs to Google Music about a month ago. So far, nothing has been removed or flagged. Is there any truth to the below statement, or is Google just covering it's rear against the RIAA?
"Google has a variety of tools at its disposal to identify illegal files. Via a method known as digital music watermarking, record companies can encode files with a variety information, including when and where the song was purchased..."
More here
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well, I've got about 8.000 'fallen-off-the-truck'-songs on my gmusic cloud for about 3-4 months now and nothing happend so far. I hope SOPA keeps away of that ****
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well, I've got about 8.000 'fallen-off-the-truck'-songs on my gmusic cloud for about 3-4 months now and nothing happend so far. I hope SOPA keeps away of that ****
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Same here.
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When i upload my songs i dont delete the local files, that way i have a backup
So, if I (legally) download an album and encode to, say, wma for my own collection thus removing any 'digital watermarking' that may have been on it. Or, even just ripping a cd? Or copyright free music (such as my own personal band, say)? Google then flags these as being 'fallen off a truck'? I bet they're just coving their arses as I don't see how that could properly work.
I had about 11,000 up right when it started. A few months in, I noticed the songs I was listening to most frequently (and I suppose were most popular at that time) were disappearing. I feel like most of the music I was actively listening to disappeared. Which is a shame because I loved the service.. but nothing happened and I wasn't contacted at all.
Waiting for spotify to come to Canada.
Is Google music available outside the US? Maybe that's why?
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Some of my music came from "my days in college where bandwidth was plentiful and the WiFi flowed like milk and honey".
Not one song is missing and most of it (purchased and "collegiate") was uploaded in May.
kangxi said:
Is Google music available outside the US? Maybe that's why?
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Yes and no. You only need to be in the USA (or use a proxy based in the USA) when you create your account. Google is your friend (search for info on Google).
How can Google tell if something is legal or not? If I buy an MP3 album, there'll be nothing to say it's legally bought or not?
Google can't enforce it at all unless they know it's an unreleased track - but being a DJ I can get music months in advance to promo so that covers me for that as well
please do not bash me, I was thinking of going over to the dark side and use itunes music match to:
1. they claim to "put the music back on the truck", i do not think this matters since i have the music anyhow. Would this trick ensure that google with not have issues in the future with "off the truck music"???
2. main reason; upgrade all my music to 256AAC, then convert them back to 256mp3(or ogg). Most of my music is 128-196 bit rate. For 25$ this will update most of my music to a higher bitrate(maybe??)
then reformat or burn my pc to remove itunes.
What do you guys think?
lol +1 for the thread title. lol
michi_1983 said:
well, I've got about 8.000 'fallen-off-the-truck'-songs on my gmusic cloud for about 3-4 months now and nothing happend so far. I hope SOPA keeps away of that ****
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Reasons like these are why we have to worry about SOPA/PIPA
Why do you even need 8000 songs when we have streaming now???
Some people still like to have their own copy of the music, me especially as it's be hard to DJ without the music
I have bittorrented 320, flac, and wav files of records I have spent over 5000 on. I have no intention of using cloud service with att, but they can't legally delete that because I own copies.
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Reasons like these are why we have to worry about SOPA/PIPA
Why do you even need 8000 songs when we have streaming now???
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As a law student, I should say that the popular notion about what SOPA does isn't, strictly speaking, accurate.
Violating digital copyright laws is, and has been, illegal. Its been that way long before i was born. SOPA, by and large, deals with foreign violations of US copyright laws.
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I can tell you that Google Music didn't upload all of my music. In fact, it didn't upload most of it and I download whole CD rips.
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matt30 said:
As a law student, I should say that the popular notion about what SOPA does isn't, strictly speaking, accurate.
Violating digital copyright laws is, and has been, illegal. Its been that way long before i was born. SOPA, by and large, deals with foreign violations of US copyright laws.
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Yes, but the Foreign Violators are feeding the US with copyrighted material.
I'd think google might do a hash check for known illegal copies.
amazon and google music uploaded about 10-20% of my total library
it did it selectively for SONGS too.. not just albums...
i.e., an album of 13 songs, genetically from the same rip, maybe 4 songs would be uplaoded
it seems quasi-random
Under apps "Made for Samsung" in Galaxy Store, Degoo App shows as 20 TB offer for Samsung.
If anyone among you have tried it and can give a review will highly appreciate it.
Have been looking for a good cloud storage service and was thinking of getting pCloud while I came across this.
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Offer screenshots.
I saw it too, today, do not know what to think...
Read how Degoo work. What I remember, it's not a "true cloud". 20TB for free? Even 100GB for free is weird.
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I have a 3TB lifetime sub to Degoo. It works great for my long-term storage needs. There is no native Linux client, but there is for Microsoft OS and macOS. I get an additional 2GB or so each week just for interacting with it.
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Under apps "Made for Samsung" in Galaxy Store, Degoo App shows as 20 TB offer for Samsung.
If anyone among you have tried it and can give a review will highly appreciate it.
Have been looking for a good cloud storage service and was thinking of getting pCloud while I came across this.
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https://www.cloudwards.net/review/degoo/
Is it 20 GB or 20TB, because even OP states in title 20TB, then lists 20GB in his posts and the picture clearly shows 20000 GB = 20TB.
Let me see: with my monthly allocation of 5GB per month for high speed data on my line, I could upload my maximum allocation of data to their servers for next 333 years before they get full, WOW.
What I found... Since I am always looking for better could storage options
So here is what I found.
It's 100GB free, but you can upgrade to their ultimate plan and get the 20TB storage for $70/year since you are a "Samsung" user. Someone will have to verify if this offer is available for other brand users, I have a feeling that it is and is an introductory offer. This when compared to the Amazon storage plan I am using for photos, videos and docs is $60/ year for 1TB of storage.
Don't know if anyone used Amazon, but I signed up when they advertised "Unlimited Storage" for prime members for $60. About a year later they then dropped it to 1 TB and started offering other storage plans. Felt cheated, but that was the best available. Google is also around the same ballpark. If any of you know of any other service that will backup pictures straight from the phone for cheaper, please let me know. Comparing Amazon to this, looks like a great deal, but yet to do research on reviews, security, privacy etc.
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So here is what I found.
It's 100GB free, but you can upgrade to their ultimate plan and get the 20TB storage for $70/year since you are a "Samsung" user. Someone will have to verify if this offer is available for other brand users, I have a feeling that it is and is an introductory offer. This when compared to the Amazon storage plan I am using for photos, videos and docs is $60/ year for 1TB of storage.
Don't know if anyone used Amazon, but I signed up when they advertised "Unlimited Storage" for prime members for $60. About a year later they then dropped it to 1 TB and started offering other storage plans. Felt cheated, but that was the best available. Google is also around the same ballpark. If any of you know of any other service that will backup pictures straight from the phone for cheaper, please let me know. Comparing Amazon to this, looks like a great deal, but yet to do research on reviews, security, privacy etc.
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Pcloud offers a 2TB Lifetime single payment account which I'm planning to get on Black Friday as price may drop to 275$ from current 350$.
https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storag...p=signin&product=premium-plus&period=lifetime
If amazon can do that then so can Degoo I guess.
Also I checked 100GB free is offered to any user who signs up, the 20TB one may be exclusive to Samsung users.
davidpaige said:
I have a 3TB lifetime sub to Degoo. It works great for my long-term storage needs. There is no native Linux client, but there is for Microsoft OS and macOS. I get an additional 2GB or so each week just for interacting with it.
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Just googled and they seem to be offering 10TB Lifetime for 100$ on Stack Social.
Is this the deal you have. I'm looking for a way to upload files directly to their servers and not sync them with my system, will Degoo work in that way.
Thank and regards.
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So here is what I found.
It's 100GB free, but you can upgrade to their ultimate plan and get the 20TB storage for $70/year since you are a "Samsung" user. Someone will have to verify if this offer is available for other brand users, I have a feeling that it is and is an introductory offer. This when compared to the Amazon storage plan I am using for photos, videos and docs is $60/ year for 1TB of storage.
Don't know if anyone used Amazon, but I signed up when they advertised "Unlimited Storage" for prime members for $60. About a year later they then dropped it to 1 TB and started offering other storage plans. Felt cheated, but that was the best available. Google is also around the same ballpark. If any of you know of any other service that will backup pictures straight from the phone for cheaper, please let me know. Comparing Amazon to this, looks like a great deal, but yet to do research on reviews, security, privacy etc.
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Here's the 10 TB lifetime deal, shows 21 hours remaining.
https://stacksocial.com/sales/degoo-premium-lifetime-backup-plans-10tb
NEERO said:
Just googled and they seem to be offering 10TB Lifetime for 100$ on Stack Social.
Is this the deal you have. I'm looking for a way to upload files directly to their servers and not sync them with my system, will Degoo work in that way.
Thank and regards.
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Wow, that is such a better deal that I got. If I didn't already have the 3TB plan, I'd snap this up.
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Wow, that is such a better deal that I got. If I didn't already have the 3TB plan, I'd snap this up.
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What's your experience with the service? How are you using it? Mac, PC, IOS or Android?
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For iOS, it's a set and forget. I use it to backup my photos and videos, mostly.
They have a basic app for Microsoft OS, and it does backup up your data reliably. To my knowledge, they don't deduplicate if you have the file in more than one directory, and I don't see a way to move a file once it is uploaded to Degoo. It looks like you would have to delete and reupload the file. Maybe someone else knows how to do it?
In Linux, I use the web app. I generally go to the My Files button, which shows me everything that I have backed up, by PC. I can then upload files into one of those collections.
There is an option you can set to keep files on the backup, even if they are deleted from the source system.
Hello
I looked through all the launch news but can't find if google photos backup/storage is still included for free with Pixel 6. Does anybody know?
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I didn't see that either. They aret trying to get you to buy a whole bundle of stuff for $45/month. I'm not a gamer.
They haven't included that for years now, so it's unlikely. If I remember correctly, the Pixel 2 was the last phone with infinite Google Photos storage.
It's £1.50/month for 100GB storage (Photos & Drive)
Not included is Kinda Old news...
I bought the 2 TB Google One plan a few weeks ago, as it was time for me to either move onto a different Photos platform or fully commit. I came from the Pixel 1 with supposed "forever" unlimited original Photo quality syncing, but even when I tried to trick Google when backing up my photos from the Galaxy Note 10+ synced to the Pixel 1 via SyncThing, they were still taking up storage space.
I hate subscribing to anything, but Photos is just so far ahead of everything else like it. The 2 TB plan gave me 10% back in-store credit on my 2x Pixel 6 Pro / 2x Buds A-series purchases. I could probably go ahead and buy another two years' worth of 2 TB Google One with that credit - we'll see.
I went to Amazon Photos. $1.99/mo.
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I looked through all the launch news but can't find if google photos backup/storage is still included for free with Pixel 6. Does anybody know?
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I do not authorize google to steal my photos, and I suggest you consider the same.
Is there a mod for p6 and p6pro? I tried pixel props mod and it didn't work
No.
You mean to allow unlimited original resolution images and videos backups using Google Photos? No.
Just buy an cheap refurbished OG pixel and upload from it. This is the way.
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Just buy an cheap refurbished OG pixel and upload from it. This is the way.
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This means you need to sync the devices, the pixel 1 would have to be online all the time etc. Not very handy.
Get over it. Google offers 200gb of storage for $30 for the year. Or $100 for 2TB. You just paid $1000 for a phone and you're going to cry about cheap storage fees?
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Get over it. Google offers 100gb of storage for $30 for the year. Or $100 for 2TB. You just paid $1000 for a phone and you're going to cry about cheap storage fees?
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Ummm. Cheap? 100gb with 4k videos are quickly burnt.
It's not worth editing your build prop or installing Magisk modules to make this work. If your phone pretends it's a Pixel 1, it can start losing newer features that rely on the phone identifying itself as a Pixel 6.
The Pixel 1 upload slave device is the only decent way to do this. Just have it sit on wifi and sync daily. If you're clever, you can probably set up a whole automation procedure.
I used to keep my and my wife's old Pixel 1s syncing photos from our (now old) newer phones using the free SyncThing, however at least some things were still definitely taking up Drive space from Google Photos. Enough that I gave up on the idea. It mostly worked but I heard that Google got smarter about recognizing what photos and videos were actually taken on the Pixel 1, and which ones weren't.
I finally gave in when I pretty much already made up my mind that I'd likely be buying the P6P 512 GB when it would be released, so I bought the 2 TB Google One plan to get the 10% credit back for our two P6P's (and other Google stuff I've bought since then).
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Get over it. Google offers 100gb of storage for $30 for the year. Or $100 for 2TB. You just paid $1000 for a phone and you're going to cry about cheap storage fees?
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Seems a bit dear, in the UK 200GB is £24.99
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Seems a bit dear, in the UK 200GB is £24.99
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Sorry, it is actually 200gb. I edited my other post.
I'm in the UK and I pay for 100gb Google 1 monthly at a cost of £1.59. BUT currently it hasn't cost me a penny yet, I use the Google Rewards and answer surveys which give me credit 10p here 30p there and I'm £10 in credit up to now so free storage for me and haven't paid a penny 2 months in and won't for the foreseeable and if I do £1.59 a month ain't going to break the bank any time soon especially knowing that all my precious photos and docs are safely backed up.
spotmark said:
Get over it. Google offers 200gb of storage for $30 for the year. Or $100 for 2TB. You just paid $1000 for a phone and you're going to cry about cheap storage fees?
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wow wow wow. nobody cheap over here buddy i just ask a question so you get over it. no need for being internet tough. i have mycloud 8 tb of cloud. so its not about the money. i like mods period. now happy holidays #blessins
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wow wow wow. nobody cheap over here buddy i just ask a question so you get over it. no need for being internet tough. i have mycloud 8 tb of cloud. so its not about the money. i like mods period. now happy holidays #blessins
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Lol. Not my intent. Just speaking among friends. Happy holidays!
I'm a Microsoft 365 it gives me 15 users each with a TB of storage along with other benefits for like 10.00 dollars a month.
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This means you need to sync the devices, the pixel 1 would have to be online all the time etc. Not very handy.
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In my use case I move photos taken by various cameras (P6P, DSLR, 360 camera, etc.) at weekend. Then process them on PC (geotagging, minor adjustment) then upload all of them to two OG pixels for parallel upload via WiFi. All photos then being accessible from anywhere via Google Photos. So far this works flawlessly. The freebies are there, just if it suit your upload style....
Yeh, Google Photos has improved a lot! It's my go-to.
Hate to revive an old(ish) thread, but has anyone using an old P1 as an upload slave had any issues with metadata getting changed? I made a thread here describing my specific issues, but basically I'm using Nearby Share to send stuff to my p1 for upload, and screenshots are getting their times changed when the upload finishes. Videos are fine, pictures are fine, and screen recordings are fine, it's literally just screenshots. Had no issues when I was using my P3 as an uploader before that benefit was EOL'd.
For those in the US with Amazon Prime. The service includes unlimited storage in Amazon Photos, including original and RAW files.
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Hate to revive an old(ish) thread, but has anyone using an old P1 as an upload slave had any issues with metadata getting changed? I made a thread here describing my specific issues, but basically I'm using Nearby Share to send stuff to my p1 for upload, and screenshots are getting their times changed when the upload finishes. Videos are fine, pictures are fine, and screen recordings are fine, it's literally just screenshots. Had no issues when I was using my P3 as an uploader before that benefit was EOL'd.
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I had no issues with metadata that I noticed when I used SyncThing - I synced my entire internal storage to my old P1.
I did have a problem with Drive still running out of space so at least some photos or videos didn't work for unlimited storage by that method.
My wife, too.
kip256 said:
For those in the US with Amazon Prime. The service includes unlimited storage in Amazon Photos, including original and RAW files.
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Also in Canada
I installed this module and it looks like call recording and other stuff is working... has anyone else tried it?
GitHub - Kingsman44/Pixelify: Magisk module to enables pixel exclusive features and ui
Magisk module to enables pixel exclusive features and ui - GitHub - Kingsman44/Pixelify: Magisk module to enables pixel exclusive features and ui
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Tried it since Pixel 5, still using it on Pixel 6 Pro
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Tried it since Pixel 5, still using it on Pixel 6 Pro
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What benefit are you getting running on Pixel 6 pro, just curious? Since from what I could tell at a quick glance is that most are standard on Pixel 6 pro?
One part I am curious about is the google unlimited storage, was going to use my old Pixel XL to upload free photos at full resolution.
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What benefit are you getting running on Pixel 6 pro, just curious? Since from what I could tell at a quick glance is that most are standard on Pixel 6 pro?
One part I am curious about is the google unlimited storage, was going to use my old Pixel XL to upload free photos at full resolution.
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because I didnt get the standard Pixel 6 pro features (Google Dialer features). that's the expected behavior for users from unsupported region.
I'm from Malaysia and had to import my Pixel 6 Pro myself using a forwader address service
"Unlimited Google Photo Upload" <- does this really work without any negative side effects?
niko26 said:
"Unlimited Google Photo Upload" <- does this really work without any negative side effects?
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It works. But side effect is no magic eraser
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It works. But side effect is no magic eraser
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Gotcha. I never user the magic eraser anyway.
Do you have a how-to/tut? What do I need to get this working?
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It works. But side effect is no magic eraser
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Device would be treated as Pixel 3, so I guess there might be more side effects like call screening, etc not working?
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Device would be treated as Pixel 3, so I guess there might be more side effects like call screening, etc not working?
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Does the P3 qualify for unlimited uploads? I thought the OG P1 was the only device...
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Does the P3 qualify for unlimited uploads? I thought the OG P1 was the only device...
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OG Pixel is unlimited original quality. After that till Pixel 5(not sure) it's unlimited high quality.
niko26 said:
Gotcha. I never user the magic eraser anyway.
Do you have a how-to/tut? What do I need to get this working?
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Did you already try the steps mentioned in the GitHub?
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Did you already try the steps mentioned in the GitHub?
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Nope I have tried this with Magisk etc. on my P4 and it crippled my P4 so much that I decided to leave it alone.
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Are you absolutely sure of that? I read some discussions over the years and it appears that some time ago, Google "hardlocked" unlimited photo storage via a unique device ID that can't be just "spoofed", meaning this should be a placebo effect that you experience. I've seen people see "oh, the app says unlimited storage! noice!" but then if you closely looked at the actual data that your Google Account has, every upload still counted AGAINST that data, simply because Googles "hardlock" isn't that easy to fool. Meaning it means nothing if the app gives you the "go", you have to check the actual available MB/GB in your GAccount to verify it actually works.
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Are you absolutely sure of that? I read some discussions over the years and it appears that some time ago, Google "hardlocked" unlimited photo storage via a unique device ID that can't be just "spoofed", meaning this should be a placebo effect that you experience. I've seen people see "oh, the app says unlimited storage! noice!" but then if you closely looked at the actual data that your Google Account has, every upload still counted AGAINST that data, simply because Googles "hardlock" isn't that easy to fool. Meaning it means nothing if the app gives you the "go", you have to check the actual available MB/GB in your GAccount to verify it actually works.
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Here is the proof. Also I noticed in dialer some text of unsuported device. Ot goes out when you touch the screen.
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Here is the proof. Also I noticed in dialer some text of unsuported device. Ot goes out when you touch the screen.
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I don't think the backup is at original quality through, its only for Pixel 1. All other pixels are unlimited at compressed size
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I don't think the backup is at original quality through, its only for Pixel 1. All other pixels are unlimited at compressed size
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Yes, youre probably right
Might just setup a replication to my pixel xl, and get that to sync my photos. I am really surprised google aren't all over this and using other exif information to determine the camera
You are correct original pixel was the only model to have unlimited at original resolution, which is why I kept my pixel xl.
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Are you absolutely sure of that? I read some discussions over the years and it appears that some time ago, Google "hardlocked" unlimited photo storage via a unique device ID that can't be just "spoofed",
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Hm, why shouldn't it possible to spoof the device ID on a rooted device?
Sorry in advance for the slight OT:
For a part of a year, while my wife and I were using the Samsung Note 10+ between our Pixel 1's and Pixel 6's, I was using SyncThing on both our old Pixel 1's, kept charging and on Wi-Fi all the time, and on our Note 10+'s. I was just keeping things simple by having the Note 10+'s sync the entire internal storage, even though I had 512 GB on those and only 128 GB on the Pixel 1's, but most of the time I kept them pretty clear, and I had the Pixel 1's backing up in original quality.
It kinda worked, but there was definite evidence that something wasn't working right, or not working right all the time, or any more, because my wife's Google account ran out of space suddenly. She had the "basic" 15 GB and hardly used Google/GMail for anything, whereas I had 19 GB due to free bonuses over the years, plus I'd been using Google as my primary EMail, and Drive as my primary office document service for a long time. My account was getting fuller, too.
So I'm not sure if Google got wise over time, if it worked for awhile and then stopped, or what happened. I stopped using Google Photos completely except for historical stuff for the rest of the time we had the Samsungs. Once I knew I was likely going to pre-order us the 6 Pros on October 19th, I went ahead and bought into Google One's 2 TB plan so I could get the 10% store credit. I'm not positive if I can keep the credit that I haven't used, and downgrade to a lesser plan that I need right now, or if they might adjust my credit if I did that, unless I spend it first.
TL;DR: I gave up and bought in.
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Did you already try the steps mentioned in the GitHub?
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I have a feeling it might work and that people aren't following the steps. It literally says on the GitHub that it will not work if you don't follow the listed steps lol. But since I have already bought in, I'm probably not gonna give it a shot anytime soon =)
But heck, if the rumors regarding the S22 line are true (that they will be using Snapdragon chips world-wide), then I might get that phone if the bootloader can be unlocked and then give this a shot, haha.