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Hello everybody.
So I was wondering, when CyanogenMod 12 comes out, will they still support all of the devices they have been supporting? Or at least, in specific, our device? I can't imagine why'd they drop support.
Also, I hear in the new Android version, the Linux 3.10 kernel is being used. As opposed to the current 3.4 kernel we are using. Does anybody know about any significant changes between the two?
This is very exciting if/when we get this on our device I personally will just wait on a CM or AOSP version of Android as stock never really does it for me.
I don't know, but the more I think about it, the more excited I get (also the more apprehensive I get since I'll have to upgrade my kernel sources).
I know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but I also can't wait to blow my friend's new iOS 8 update out of the water with CM12/L (Not like CM11 doesn't already do that )
Snepsts said:
Hello everybody.
So I was wondering, when CyanogenMod 12 comes out, will they still support all of the devices they have been supporting? Or at least, in specific, our device? I can't imagine why'd they drop support.
Also, I hear in the new Android version, the Linux 3.10 kernel is being used. As opposed to the current 3.4 kernel we are using. Does anybody know about any significant changes between the two?
This is very exciting if/when we get this on our device I personally will just wait on a CM or AOSP version of Android as stock never really does it for me.
I don't know, but the more I think about it, the more excited I get (also the more apprehensive I get since I'll have to upgrade my kernel sources).
I know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but I also can't wait to blow my friend's new iOS 8 update out of the water with CM12/L (Not like CM11 doesn't already do that )
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I'm so excited about this. It will be sooooooo cool. I need to learn to develop ROMs and stuff, because if developer support dies for this phone I would want to keep the development going.
Well then start now rjm....... Better now then never
2SHAYNEZ
rjmxtech said:
I'm so excited about this. It will be sooooooo cool. I need to learn to develop ROMs and stuff, because if developer support dies for this phone I would want to keep the development going.
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You'll have me doing the little bit I can for this device for the next 8-9 months I'm stuck with this thing
Don't worry about developing ROMs, all you really need to know is how to compile and maintain. I plan to attempt at some unofficial builds of a ROM or two once I can deem my kernel as done. But don't worry, the LG OGP is definitely booming with activity right now, and will probably only get better with the following months to come.
We already have:
Gummy
PAC
Beanstalk
CM11
AOKP
AICP
Vanir
and a pretty good range of stock ROMs.
Soon (and I mean within a month or so) I hope to add Carbon and Paranoid Android to this list, but we will have to see. I do not know how to compile unofficially or much about it, but it doesn't look extremely difficult. So my hopes are high.
Plus, as this device drops in price, we may get some more people to keep development for this device relevant. Although I did not see our device in the local AT&T store last time I was there...
We have a beautiful phone with the processing power to last as a quality device for another year at least. LG makes some pretty nice stuff.
Unfortunately, we will be seeing more and more of our users leave as the months drag on as this phone gains age
We'll have to see who lasts the longest with this phone as their primary device... lol.
I suspect we will reach our peek in ROMs soon a few months after Android L is up and running. Just my guess though.
Shayne has a good point though, now is definitely the time to start. So better hit the tutorials!
Snepsts said:
You'll have me doing the little bit I can for this device for the next 8-9 months I'm stuck with this thing
Don't worry about developing ROMs, all you really need to know is how to compile and maintain. I plan to attempt at some unofficial builds of a ROM or two once I can deem my kernel as done. But don't worry, the LG OGP is definitely booming with activity right now, and will probably only get better with the following months to come.
We already have:
Gummy
PAC
Beanstalk
CM11
AOKP
AICP
Vanir
and a pretty good range of stock ROMs.
Soon (and I mean within a month or so) I hope to add Carbon and Paranoid Android to this list, but we will have to see. I do not know how to compile unofficially or much about it, but it doesn't look extremely difficult. So my hopes are high.
Plus, as this device drops in price, we may get some more people to keep development for this device relevant. Although I did not see our device in the local AT&T store last time I was there...
We have a beautiful phone with the processing power to last as a quality device for another year at least. LG makes some pretty nice stuff.
Unfortunately, we will be seeing more and more of our users leave as the months drag on as this phone gains age
We'll have to see who lasts the longest with this phone as their primary device... lol.
I suspect we will reach our peek in ROMs soon a few months after Android L is up and running. Just my guess though.
Shayne has a good point though, now is definitely the time to start. So better hit the tutorials!
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If you could keep Beanstalk going for our device if development stops I would greatly appreciate it. I'll try and help out too when I learn how in case development does stop.
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If you could keep Beanstalk going for our device if development stops I would greatly appreciate it. I'll try and help out too when I learn how in case development does stop.
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I have a feeling that we don't have to worry about Beanstalk
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ
shayneflashindaily said:
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ
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It seems as though a lot of ROMs by that particular dev get abandoned eventually... but that's none of my business.
Yes AICP would be a great one to start on, first thing is first though, rjm, get yourself on a Linux VM or a Linux computer. Also, I hope you have some decent specs or it'll be hell trying to do it.
For example, I have an AMD FX-6350, so I have 6 cores in my system. I can allocate 4 to my VM
And you'll want some RAM, too. Like 8 GB so if you're using a VM you can allocate 4 as well.
For the distro I suggest using Linux Mint 64-bit (has to be 64-bit).
And I really hope your host OS is 64-bit, because otherwise you are probably incapable of compiling ROMs.
Best of luck!
P.S: I downloaded Carbon sources today. We'll see how that goes.
Oh also be sure you have PLENTY of free space, those sources love hogging space. I just cleaned out my old VM and set up a new one with 200 GB of space allocated. Thank God for Terabyte HDDs
Staying on topic, the L/5.0 SDK was released today. Approx. two weeks until the official Nexus release, and hopefully not too long until we get a taste of that afterwards.
KitKat was great (it felt like the smoothest Android experience ever when I flashed my first KK ROM) but I'm ready for Lollipop!
Material design looks interesting, although I gotta say... the circle triangle square virtual buttons aren't the best design choice imo. Maybe it's to make switching from an iPhone to an Android easier for the iUsers that find the current system to difficult to understand :laugh: They sure like their shapes of rounded edge squares and circles.
I'm not kidding, actually. A friend of mine steals my phone all the time and she cannot figure out PIE to save her life...
shayneflashindaily said:
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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What about compiling it for the sake of learning how to compile...?
Snepsts said:
What about compiling it for the sake of learning how to compile...?
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Maybe
rjmxtech said:
I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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Is Beanstalk as stable as cm11. Does it have a RC or something similar to PAC or M11?
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Is Beanstalk as stable as cm11. Does it have a RC or something similar to PAC or M11?
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I'm pretty sure Beanstalk only releases stable updates. From what I remember there aren't any nightlies, as it sometimes is months before a new update is released. That is another reason why I like Beanstalk better than other ROMs.
I will be happy to see official LG update for Android Lollipop 5.x Waiting for updates!
rahib172 said:
I will be happy to see official LG update for Android Lollipop 5.x Waiting for updates!
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Not much news from lg on updates yet:
http://www.androidauthority.com/which-phones-android-lollipop-540232/
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rjmxtech said:
I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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Probably a sort of noobish question, but anyway many roms are cm-based (including beanstalk), and even aokp is cm enabled. How dependent are these roms on cm, basically meaning could they sustain themselves without cm continuing support too?
abumy said:
Not much news from lg on updates yet:
http://www.androidauthority.com/which-phones-android-lollipop-540232/
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Probably a sort of noobish question, but anyway many roms are cm-based (including beanstalk), and even aokp is cm enabled. How dependent are these roms on cm, basically meaning could they sustain themselves without cm continuing support too?
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I think CM official support is close to vital for these ROMs, mainly for the kernel, but also because they update the device thingy you use to build ROMs I do believe.
I am 90% sure we will receive updates from CM though. They sure know how to take care of their devices.
Any custom ROM will do, if we are talking about testing the new Android L. What's bothering me is the support for F240x devices. If CM, Beanstalk, VANIR/COMMOTIO or AICP (the one I am using for a long period of time), will release an update, will there be a KERNEL or ROM that will work for the F240x?
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Any custom ROM will do, if we are talking about testing the new Android L. What's bothering me is the support for F240x devices. If CM, Beanstalk, VANIR/COMMOTIO or AICP (the one I am using for a long period of time), will release an update, will there be a KERNEL or ROM that will work for the F240x?
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I really hope it is for your sake. Luckily the dev that makes F240 ROMs for you guys seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure he'll keep working for you. As long as e980 has support he can use that kernel and use it for F240.
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I really hope it is for your sake. Luckily the dev that makes F240 ROMs for you guys seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure he'll keep working for you. As long as e980 has support he can use that kernel and use it for F240.
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Hopefully.
Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
The device is aging, M9 is supposed to be revealed tomorrow. I'm not even sure if they will make the 5.1 Android for M8, and that is much needed, seeing how buggy Lollipop is. I seriously regret updating, I wish I had enough sense to stay wit KitKat, that worked great on my phone.
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Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
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ViperOneM8 has been updated three times in the last two weeks, with another update to come out in the next few days. Although two of them mostly addressed bug fixes, there were also new features added.
There has been a couple of lollipop nightly builds for this device. To be honest, I don't really notice a slowdown of development.
PresidentCupcake said:
Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
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No i do not share the feeling development slowed down, then again why should a developer spend so much time on these builds when sense 7 is around the corner. I think they pick the most valuable tweaks and parts of optimization.
My 2 cents
Mr Hofs said:
No i do not share the feeling development slowed down, then again why should a developer spend so much time on these builds when sense 7 is around the corner. I think they pick the most valuable tweaks and parts of optimization.
My 2 cents
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Do you think Sense 7 and Android 5.1 are actually coming to the M8?
unifex_ said:
Do you think Sense 7 and Android 5.1 are actually coming to the M8?
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I don't think.....know for sure it will
Do you know when we can expect a ROM based on Android O?
Can't say for sure. May never see an official release from Nextbit/Razer, but I'm sure custom rom devs will release it when it's ready.
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Can't say for sure. May never see an official release from Nextbit/Razer, but I'm sure custom rom devs will release it when it's ready.
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Didn't Nextbit or Razer hire the devs from Paranoid Android? If they are working on the Robin ROM, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we'll get Oreo. However Razer announced a gaming phone a while ago, so there is no way to tell.
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Didn't Nextbit or Razer hire the devs from Paranoid Android? If they are working on the Robin ROM, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we'll get Oreo. However Razer announced a gaming phone a while ago, so there is no way to tell.
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One of the Developer's for PA is also one of the 30 teams members of nextbit.
There are quite a few links like these which mention Lineage OS 15 (Oreo) supported devices and robin is one of them! I cant wait for the release!
http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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There are quite a few links like these which mention Lineage OS 15 (Oreo) supported devices and robin is one of them! I cant wait for the release!
http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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Except those are all fake. The LOS maintainers won't actually know if a device will support LOS 15 until they actually try porting it in the first place. As of now, they haven't tried for the Nextbit Robin yet, so we don't know if the Robin could actually get LOS 15 yet.
If you wanna keep tabs on what devices are currently being worked on, go to https://review.lineageos.org/#/q/statuspen and look for anything being commited to the lineageos-15.0 branch for android_device_nextbit_ether.
Software updates till February as they say on Twitter. Apart from nextbits cloud framework the OS is pretty much stock AOSP and it seems to me they're really good with releasing kernel source and providing updates almost every three months.
Robin, on N, is a mess. If it does eventually get O, it will be a while. We cannot upgrade it to O until we fix out the bugs we have on N first.
What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Camera, GPS, battery blah the list goes on. The kernels a mess because of bad sources. I wouldnt recommend it , it would be better getting a moto G device or similar at this stage.
DarkExistence said:
Camera, GPS, battery blah the list goes on. The kernels a mess because of bad sources. I wouldnt recommend it , it would be better getting a moto G device or similar at this stage.
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I have two devices, and I don't have troubles with it.
HeaDekBatHblu said:
I have two devices, and I don't have troubles with it.
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Doesn't make a difference, the code base is a mess. If your buying for a Dev device, dont. Even the top lineage Devs are struggling to make it as stable as it is (and it's not very stable, messy as hell!) As an every day device it's ok but there are better phones now a days in the price range, and support is basically dead for robin now.
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Doesn't make a difference, the code base is a mess. If your buying for a Dev device, dont. Even the top lineage Devs are struggling to make it as stable as it is (and it's not very stable, messy as hell!) As an every day device it's ok but there are better phones now a days in the price range, and support is basically dead for robin now.
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Development is not dead at all. Have you seen Gerrit for many of the ROMs??? The CarbonROM Dev already has pushes to Gerrit for O. Lineage still gets device specific changes. ParanoidAndroid has a private kernel source for ether so their working on it behind the scenes. AICP and many other ROMs use the Lineage kernel, so there aren't many differences to those that use that kernel. O development is still ongoing, and this device is still great for the price. The ROMs at the moment, are very stable in my opinion.
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Development is not dead at all. Have you seen Gerrit for many of the ROMs??? The CarbonROM Dev already has pushes to Gerrit for O. Lineage still gets device specific changes. ParanoidAndroid has a private kernel source for ether so their working on it behind the scenes. AICP and many other ROMs use the Lineage kernel, so there aren't many differences to those that use that kernel. O development is still ongoing, and this device is still great for the price. The ROMs at the moment, are very stable in my opinion.
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I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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My apologies if I seemed aggressive. Official development seems to be like any other manufacturer, however, as we all know, software support is ending soon. I've been following Gerrit and have noticed the ongoing development by our developers (including you). IIRC camera was borked on one of the nightlies, but was immediately fixed. IMO, we are now depending on development from our ether devs rather than official support since Nextbit have been ghosting for the past few months.
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Keep in mind what DarkExistence said, and realize the Robin's closest equivalent is a Nexus 5. If you can get better & newer hardware for a little more money, do so. I got mine as an "emergency" replacement when I was short on funds a few months ago. I lucked into an eBay sale & discount code which brought the phone to about 100.00. I'm happy with it, but I wish Razer would have made good sources available & gave full permission for them to be hosted elsewhere. So the devs didn't get so frustrated with what should be a decent phone to run custom ROMs on.
Sent from my Robin using XDA Labs
So how us the Robin treating you. Did you root? ARE you using any ROMs
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Yes, for $130 it's worth buying. The bugs on android N are not nearly as bad as what some claim them to be.
Here's as list of what I can recall:
1. Enhance colors distorts colors (so turn it off)
2. Screen static displays when unlocking phone for 1/10th of a second with some roms
3. You can hear The Speakers turn off after sound has stopped playing if You listen closely
4. Headphones with a mic sometimes cut out and play through internal Speakers although there is as work around for this
5. Audio fx does not work
Other than any of those there is not much i can personally complain about and I own 2 robins. About to get a moto g4 plus because it's time for something that has a larger XDA fourm and something that has been confirmed to get android O (wich nextbit has yet to announce a decision to besides "we have been discussing it").
If I were You and my budget was under $200 i'd get The robin.
If You can spend $225 get The g4 plus without a doubt. Hope this helps
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So how us the Robin treating you. Did you root? ARE you using any ROMs
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I like it, especially for the price. Currently using CarbonROM rooted with Magisk. Just realize you're getting a phone with zero support from the manufacturer, so don't spend more than you're willing to lose.
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DarkExistence said:
I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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Well thank you for being the maintainer on Ether. I just ordered the phone. 129.00 for a phone with these specs. Couldn't pass it up. I'm sure you will eventually make AICP stable. Thank you for your honesty.
Hey everyone!
Just wanted to ask a couple questions and start another discussion thread for those of us that have Oreo installed on our devices.
Questions:
With twrp on oreo, what's the status on the flashable version?
Anyone currently or thinking about creating new roms, kernels, etc for the device?
Lastly, what are some things that the nondevs here can do to help us all out?
Hope to see some good discussions
Thanks in advance!
Idk anything about the status of TWRP, so I can't help you there. Overall, I know there was an effort to get a device to a dev, and it was successful. Invisiblek now has one. Looks like he's working on lineage, which is super awesome.
The device now has a repo on the lineage github, so you can see work is being done. As for a timeframe, no clue, just have patience and know that it'll be released once it's ready. We're fortunate that Moto has already updated us to Oreo and it's a pretty stock interface. Only way they could've done better in my view would have been to update the device to support project treble, but that's an entirely different story.
That's about all I know, hope it helps somewhat.
Patience indeed. It'll move along at some point. Next to Sony, I think Moto has one of the cleanest implementations of Android, so it's definitely bearable.
Plus, with the price dropping into "steal" territory, I see more smart ppl coming this way.
Yea thank you guys! I'm being as patient as can be and I just wanted to have a thread here were any and all of us curious folks can have a place to talk about the upcoming of this device and the near future development holds for it. I didn't know it was on lineages repo so that's awesome to hear! That's a perfect example of why I created this post, just to spread the word into one forum and just have a couple chats with everyone about the moto.
Cheers guys, hope to hear more from others too!
Dear All,
I had been wondering if there was any chance to see a LOS16 (A9) port for this device?
I know LOS 17 has been ported which is really great.
I understand everyone is eager to get to the latest version of Android they can get, but I don't always like what comes next, not always better than what was there before, not to mention, often performances are not as even as good as they were before.
Of course sometimes you have to compromise to get that new feature you were looking for, but some other times you simply do not need it and would just be happy on earlier version.
I am quite satisfied with A9, it meets my needs so far, and for now I see no reason to move to A10.
Dont get me wrong, that's great we have all those new roms based on A10, I thank all the dev for that, but I am just curious if anything would come based on A9 or if that's just not possible because of some reasons I am not aware of.
Thank you very much!
Regards,
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Dear All,
I had been wondering if there was any chance to see a LOS16 (A9) port for this device?
I know LOS 17 has been ported which is really great.
I understand everyone is eager to get to the latest version of Android they can get, but I don't always like what comes next, not always better than what was there before, not to mention, often performances are not as even as good as they were before.
Of course sometimes you have to compromise to get that new feature you were looking for, but some other times you simply do not need it and would just be happy on earlier version.
I am quite satisfied with A9, it meets my needs so far, and for now I see no reason to move to A10.
Dont get me wrong, that's great we have all those new roms based on A10, I thank all the dev for that, but I am just curious if anything would come based on A9 or if that's just not possible because of some reasons I am not aware of.
Thank you very much!
Regards,
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Or maybe someone could explain how to make a LOS16.x Rom for Redmi?
I am unsure how it works exactly but I guess it is about to mix some files? That should be doable since we have device tree no?
I am curious to learn how that works.
Thanks to anyone who could help.