LG has presented “new“' LG V30s RuinQ in Barcelona: same design, CPU, camera, display and battery, but 6GB RAM, up to 256GB internal storage and new AI software for the camera. Two new colors also.
More details:
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/2/24/17048574/lg-v30s-price-release-date-mwc-2018
https://youtu.be/SkfvKEUZrOI
All the "new" software aspects (AI, etc) will also be rolled out to existing V30/V30+ sometime in the future. LG admits that. It's in several of the articles.
The immediate question that surfaces when you look at the V30S is,*why did this need to exist?*LG gave a media presentation here at MWC where it explained its thinking about AI integration into mobile devices and how that found expression in the company’s new AI Cam, the V30S’ headline novelty.
But here’s the issue: the AI Cam and every other software improvement in the V30S are promised to be delivered as an update to V30 phones. So there’s no hardware reason for new hardware. Unless you were really lusting for a slightly darker gray on the back of your phone.
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So the only thing REALLY different is more RAM and the option of 256GB internal storage besides the 128GB storage (already available on the V30+). This new V30ABCD will have 128GB/256GB storage options.
For me, then the only aspect that's different is more RAM.
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I'm pissed off
For me this is a joke, in Europe, LG started sale of V30 in December, so presenting new model in February makes my angry for this company. and I will never buy their product.
We still don't have Oreo update and probably, we will not see it before a few weeks after start of sellling ThunQ model.
* I feel cheated and I'm pissed off.
will be mine on Day 1.
Do you know which markets will be sold ? Korea and ?
Which's the LG keynote date ad MWC18 ?
bombaju said:
For me this is a joke, in Europe, LG started sale of V30 in December, so presenting new model in February makes my angry for this company. and I will never buy their product.
We still don't have Oreo update and probably, we will not see it before a few weeks after start of sellling ThunQ model.
* I feel cheated and I'm pissed off.
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Take a deep breath. "Presenting"/announcing is not the same as "releasing"/available for sale.
When did LG ANNOUNCE the LG V30? August.
When did LG make the LG V30 available for sale in your area? December.
You probably won't see this until April-May.
Oh, sure they'll release it in South Korea next week. Just like they released the V30 in South Korea in September. But the rest of the world probably won't see it for months. UNLESS this is why the V30 and V30+ has been "out of stock" on B&H Photo? Because LG was producing this phone? If so, then I'm impressed they are actually announcing and releasing a phone pretty close together.
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You won't see this until April-May.
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not true at all
April / May you will have in store new G7
wolfgart said:
not true at all
April / May you will have in store new G7
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No, they have said that's June.
https://www.google.com/search?q=jun...rome..69i57.3415j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
And even that's debatable whether that's the "announce" date or the "release" (available in store) date.
When it is time for me to use JUMP again with T-Mobile, I might get this device. Only because I like the device but having more RAM would be a benefit. That and I really like that blue color. Unfortunately T-Mobile will probably only get that gray color. Since it'll be December before I get it, hopefully all colors will already be revealed.
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I think I'm going to JUMP to another device with my v30 as I'm almost Jump eligible. Haven't decided what yet, maybe. Refurbished v20 or a U11 life since it's rootable.
But as much of a fanboy of LG as I've been, I think the smart move next is OnePlus.. Sad times for carrier branded LG devices..
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lol it's amazing to me that anyone gives a **** about "AI" in this form. wow, it can detect the difference between food and faces. i struggle to consider that intelligence. just software doing what it's supposed to.
more ram
that should be form the first
I wonder if the fact that this phone will launch with Oreo (and thus mandatory Treble support) will do anything for us OG V30 owners.
More RAM is a good thing but the rest... The AI stuff being just software is disappointing. I don't really need 256GB internal storage because of the SD card slot. The new colors really don't impress me either. LG's silver model of the V30/V30+ I think is the nicest one they have released so far. It is nice and shiny compared to the toned down look of the platinum.
This refresh I don't think is going to help LG. They might get a few extra sales for those who held out for something with more RAM. If they had gone with an SD845 and added an AI processor, I think the reasons to upgrade would be a lot more compelling. With the S9 and S9+ whoring for attention, the V30s ThinQ is just a fart in the wind that has no punch.
bombaju said:
For me this is a joke, in Europe, LG started sale of V30 in December, so presenting new model in February makes my angry for this company. and I will never buy their product.
We still don't have Oreo update and probably, we will not see it before a few weeks after start of sellling ThunQ model.
* I feel cheated and I'm pissed off.
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Same here. And they also lied to me through customer service. They changed the requirements for a 70 euro cashback after I ordered the phone. When I contacted them, they said I was still eligible because I ordered before the change.
Then when I received the phone a month later and tried to redeem the cashback they denied everything even though I had proof of everything. Took me 20 emails and I was nearly going to court before they gave in.
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lol it's amazing to me that anyone gives a **** about "AI" in this form. wow, it can detect the difference between food and faces. i struggle to consider that intelligence. just software doing what it's supposed to.
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Actually I do. Auto-mode is crap on the v30. Especially at night. According to previews on youtube during the day theres no difference but at night the photos are indeed better. So if thats the case they can call it whatever they like, i just want better photos.
Valinorian said:
Same here. And they also lied to me through customer service. They changed the requirements for a 70 euro cashback after I ordered the phone. When I contacted them, they said I was still eligible because I ordered before the change.
Then when I received the phone a month later and tried to redeem the cashback they denied everything even though I had proof of everything. Took me 20 emails and I was nearly going to court before they gave in.
Actually I do. Auto-mode is crap on the v30. Especially at night. According to previews on youtube during the day theres no difference but at night the photos are indeed better. So if thats the case they can call it whatever they like, i just want better photos.
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that's called optimization. my issue is that they call it AI like it's some great technological feat. this device should detect when to use this "night mode" right out of the box. it's just a piece of software they should have included in the first place, but didn't. i'll be kinda ticked if they don't introduce these features to my device, being that it is ONLY software. i don't want to have to use GCam.
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More RAM is a good thing but the rest... The AI stuff being just software is disappointing. I don't really need 256GB internal storage because of the SD card slot. The new colors really don't impress me either. LG's silver model of the V30/V30+ I think is the nicest one they have released so far. It is nice and shiny compared to the toned down look of the platinum.
This refresh I don't think is going to help LG. They might get a few extra sales for those who held out for something with more RAM. If they had gone with an SD845 and added an AI processor, I think the reasons to upgrade would be a lot more compelling. With the S9 and S9+ whoring for attention, the V30s ThinQ is just a fart in the wind that has no punch.
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Yeah it's a weird launch. Some of the leaks I have seen today on the G7 (codename Judy) look interesting to me.
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Yeah it's a weird launch. Some of the leaks I have seen today on the G7 (codename Judy) look interesting to me.
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Judy is more in line with what I personally think LG's next release should have been. LG should have focused on that and been announcing that now with a release window of mid-March. Instead, Judy is looking lime a late June or July release, when everyone will be too busy with summer to care until the fall flagships start making headlines with the SD850.
Another not developer friendly device, select variants with unlockable bootloader. lol
LG got some more bad press today when one of their phones burst into flames on an Air Canada flight before it left Toronto for Vancouver. That effectively puts LG on par with the Note 7.
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This refresh I don't think is going to help LG. They might get a few extra sales for those who held out for something with more RAM.
If they had gone with an SD845 and added an AI processor, I think the reasons to upgrade would be a lot more compelling. With the S9 and S9+ whoring for attention, the V30s ThinQ is just a fart in the wind that has no punch.
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But they couldn't go with the 845 at this point in time -- just like they couldn't go with the 835 last year for the G6. Samsung again has all supply locked up for first weeks.
At least LG is not wasting a "new" phone with "last year's Snapdragon", like they did the G6.
For really new phones with latest processors, the new reality is you have to stand in line behind Samsung. Why Samsung has such a monopoly on the new Snapdragon needs investigation. It was supposed to be for last year only (due to Samsung helping Qualcomm design and manufacture the next-gen 835).
Also, is Qualcomm going to only release ONE new premium chip each year, when in the past they released at least two each year?
LG wisely has pushed back G7 release until they can have adequate supply of 845 chips.
So, LG tricked out a V30 to have something to show at this event. They can't show up empty handed. Samsung and LG are competitive South Korean conglomerates.
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Judy is more in line with what I personally think LG's next release should have been. LG should have focused on that and been announcing that now with a release window of mid-March. Instead, Judy is looking lime a late June or July release, when everyone will be too busy with summer to care until the fall flagships start making headlines with the SD850.
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Judy IS LG's next "real" release. They just have to delay it until they get supply of SN845 chips. Otherwise they release Judy with 835 and everyone makes fun of them for having "last year's" Snapdragon.
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WaxysDargle said:
that's called optimization. my issue is that they call it AI like it's some great technological feat. this device should detect when to use this "night mode" right out of the box. it's just a piece of software they should have included in the first place, but didn't. i'll be kinda ticked if they don't introduce these features to my device, being that it is ONLY software. i don't want to have to use GCam.
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All the so-called "AI" software is coming to ALL LG V30 in a future update. The only thing this new V30ABCD has is new colors, more RAM. And double internal memory option (256GB) in addition to the 128GB the V30+ already has.
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The LG V30 US998*running*Android Pie 9.0 was spotted in the GeekBench database.
https://www.mylgphones.com/unlocked-lg-v30-us998-spotted-on-geekbench-running-android-pie.html
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/11025404
Is it with Android 9.0 from LG official or a custom AOSP Android 9.0 ROM?
Very very very very doubtful its official LG, especially because its the US variant, first all korean variants will get the update, and then, some time later the others will
We're supposed to get Pie in Q1 of 2019 according to LG.
But I wouldn't hold your breath. They certainly won't release it before that time.
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We're supposed to get Pie in Q1 of 2019 according to LG.
But I wouldn't hold your breath. They certainly won't release it before that time.
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Where does LG say that? They never give a timeline or date prediction that I've seen. Don't trust various sites stating when they predict LG will give Pie.
Also, first ones to get PIE we'll be Korean carrier variants -- yeah, possibly Q1 2019... But everyone else will be months after that. Will be at least Q2 for rest of us, just like Oreo earlier this year.
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Where does LG say that? They never give a timeline or date prediction that I've seen. Don't trust various sites stating when they think LG will give Pie.
Also, first ones to get PIE we'll be Korean carrier variants -- yeah, possibly Q1 2019... But everyone else will be months after that. Will be at least Q2, just like Oreo earlier this year.
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Someone posted a source that cited LG in some other thread. I forget. I thought it was a legit source, but I could be mistaken
I decide to e-mail to LG with knowledge that they not gonna tell me truth and see what they said :laugh: Anyway Im changing phone soon so for me they can do what they want.. Soo long we had to wait for Oreo.. Samsung Huawei Nokia etc have Pie already but LG decide to do 3 more phones instead of sustem update.. Maybe in 2019 they will say something official..
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I decide to e-mail to LG with knowledge that they not gonna tell me truth and see what they said :laugh: Anyway Im changing phone soon so for me they can do what they want.. Soo long we had to wait for Oreo.. Samsung Huawei Nokia etc have Pie already but LG decide to do 3 more phones instead of sustem update.. Maybe in 2019 they will say something official..
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The tech support usually, even if they would have the information (which by far isnt always the case, who would give some confidential information to basically the lowest people in the hirachy?), not allowed to tell that anyone.
Thats the sad thing about that :/
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Where does LG say that? They never give a timeline or date prediction that I've seen. Don't trust various sites stating when they predict LG will give Pie.
Also, first ones to get PIE we'll be Korean carrier variants -- yeah, possibly Q1 2019... But everyone else will be months after that. Will be at least Q2 for rest of us, just like Oreo earlier this year.
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Just like I said -- by end of 2nd quarter for V30. I KNEW that was the plan! See here:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...dule-for-south-korea-v35-and-v40-are-up-next/
Android 9 Pie started rolling out to the Korean G7 today, but other models will have to wait longer. LG's schedule says the V35 will also get Pie in Q1 2019 (which ends March 31), but the V40, V30, and V30S will have to wait until Q2 2019 (ends on June 30). The G6, V20, and Q8 are expected to receive Pie in Q3, and the Q9 and X5 will get it by the end of the year.
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Lg v30 in q2 in korea not sure about other region
https://www.fonearena.com/blog/273172/lg-g7-thinq-android-pie-update-v35-v40-v30-g6.html
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Just like I said -- by end of 2nd quarter for V30. I KNEW that was the plan! See here:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...dule-for-south-korea-v35-and-v40-are-up-next/
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G7, V35 and V40 are soooooo similiar, hardware wise, software probably isnt that different either...
You can use the V40 vendor partition on a G7... (just camera and so will have problems)
How do they manage to get there such delays... I surely wonder what they "engineers" there are doing all day long...
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G7, V35 and V40 are soooooo similiar, hardware wise, software probably isnt that different either...
You can use the V40 vendor partition on a G7... (just camera and so will have problems)
How do they manage to get there such delays... I surely wonder what they "engineers" there are doing all day long...
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Marketing? Why rush to update the "old" models when you are struggling to sell the new ones.
Or was that a rhetorical question?
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How do they manage to get there such delays... I surely wonder what they "engineers" there are doing all day long...
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probably 1 or 2 engineers and few college interns doing all the update work
It's about time LG should realise that just stamping out new phones with 10 different variants isn't gonna do anything for them. With the G8 coming out soon I doubt the V30 will even be getting any security updates after the pie rollout. No cutting edge hardware is any good if it's running 2 year old software. It's one thing to treat mid tier or budget devices this way but even to your flagships, that's like axing your own foot. With the 90day security update criteria to be in the so called 'android enterprise recommended' program, LG is just doing the bare minimum so that they don't lose a marketing opportunity.
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It's about time LG should realise that just stamping out new phones with 10 different variants isn't gonna do anything for them. With the G8 coming out soon I doubt the V30 will even be getting any security updates after the pie rollout. No cutting edge hardware is any good if it's running 2 year old software. It's one thing to treat mid tier or budget devices this way but even to your flagships, that's like axing your own foot. With the 90day security update criteria to be in the so called 'android enterprise recommended' program, LG is just doing the bare minimum so that they don't lose a marketing opportunity.
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But there is a specific time period (duration) they have to give those updates. "Knowledge workers" classification is 3 years. "Rugged workers" (construction use, etc) is 5 years. V30 is 3 years for updates.
https://bayton.org/docs/enterprise-mobility/android/what-is-android-enterprise-recommended/
https://www.androidcentral.com/android-enterprise-recommended
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But there is a specific time period (duration) they have to give those updates. "Knowledge workers" classification is 3 years. "Rugged workers" (construction use, etc) is 5 years. V30 is 3 years for updates.
https://bayton.org/docs/enterprise-mobility/android/what-is-android-enterprise-recommended/
https://www.androidcentral.com/android-enterprise-recommended
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Yeah but V30 was launched in sept'17 and completes it's 3 years sept'20. Since LG takes about an year to rollout the updates(pie released aug'18 and it'll positively be Q3'19 before all V30 variants receive the update) even if the next android version releases in Q3 this year I highly doubt we'll get another software upgrade release within that 3 year time frame.
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Yeah but V30 was launched in sept'17 and completes it's 3 years sept'20. Since LG takes about an year to rollout the updates(pie released aug'18 and it'll positively be Q3'19 before all V30 variants receive the update) even if the next android version releases in Q3 this year I highly doubt we'll get another software upgrade release within that 3 year time frame.
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Yes, Pie will be the last letter upgrade and will start arriving Q2 2019 and continue into Q3 2019. Security updates will continue for at least a full year after that.
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I doubt the V30 will even be getting any security updates after the pie rollout.
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Security updates will continue to Q3 2020 and possibly Q2 2021 -- depending on definition of the starting line. Oreo was needed to even be in the Enterprise Recommended program, and we didn't get Oreo and the 90-day updates until Q2 2018.
The V30 will be the first and last LG smart phone I will buy. I'll stick to Google or Samsung next go. But no more LG. Lucky to get one major android update.
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The V30 will be the first and last LG smart phone I will buy. I'll stick to Google or Samsung next go. But no more LG. Lucky to get one major android update.
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We will get two major Android updates. We already got Oreo and will get Pie.
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The V30 will be the first and last LG smart phone I will buy. I'll stick to Google or Samsung next go. But no more LG. Lucky to get one major android update.
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I'll take this reasonably priced phone I can actually unlock/root before I ever consider a Samsuck again!
Anyone got pie update or security patch for LG H930DS?
Has anyone received a security patch update after AUG 2018 for LG H930DS? And has anyone received the pie update? and when do you guys think we will get it? For the H930DS Indian Version..
Watched Google's 2019 IO and I saw that LG is on the beta list for Q. Is G7 supported?
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/07/android-q-beta-3-phones/
It's the G8..
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https://9to5google.com/2019/05/07/android-q-beta-3-phones/
It's the G8..
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? ? ?
Nevermind... I don't think that the sound functions like dtx and quad dac works with vanilla beta... ?
They are too dumb for that, and pretty sure it will be release on korean version only again, worst phone of my life
bilrage said:
They are too dumb for that, and pretty sure it will be release on korean version only again, worst phone of my life
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Indeed Korea get priority if it comes to beta or anything else. Don't believe a thing they would treat the G8 any other way like G7 to make you upgrade. Some of the G7 got a few days ago security update April instead of pie.
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Yea, only Korean model. Anyone starting to feel that lg's koreans are some sort of racists?
Inerent said:
Anyone starting to feel that lg's koreans are some sort of racists?
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I don't think they are racists. But probably 95% of their sales are in Korea. The US and Europe is not that important for them. They are acting just like Apple and Google did in the beginning when they thought the world only consisted of the US. I remember my first Android phone I had to root just to get Google Play since that was a US feature only. When my xbox got voice control I was thrilled, I knew it was only English, but since I'm a fluent speaker I would not mind. But no, you could only turn on that feature in the US. Amazon Prime? Sorry, not in your country. The list goes on and on.
Companies are in this for the revenue. You don't spend lots of $ to please those 5% of users outside your main market, that's just a fact of capitalism. As a consumer you need to think about why this seemingly great spec phone is cheaper that comparative models from Samsung, Sony and others. They sell some phones to test the market. If it's a success then great, they'll prioritize this market for the next model (G8), if not, the no worries, we did not spend that much money in that market anyway.
My next phone is going to be a "global" contender without a strong tie to a country. Like the One+ or something like that I think.
(The numbers are just grabbed out of my a** and are probably totally wrong, but the principle remains).
It is another stunt by LG for publicity and lure the customers again.. Like last year when they announced new software update centre..
By joining the beta program, they are still not obligated to roll out timely updates on G8 either.. It's it just for beta testing at the end of the day...
So, the OP7 pro sucks a**. I am done with crap hardware just to have an open phone.
With that said, if @ChazzMatt wants to catch me up on the latest... That would be great.
If anyone wants to know how bad the OP7 pro sucks .. just ask. Luckily they are going for around 800 on eBay for the 12/256 model that I bought.
Just typing this on my US998 V30+ is soooo much nicer. Having the "all screen" on the OP7 pro is just an illusion.
-- Brian
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So, the OP7 pro sucks a**. I am done with crap hardware just to have an open phone.
With that said, if @ChazzMatt wants to catch me up on the latest... That would be great.
If anyone wants to know how bad the OP7 pro sucks .. just ask. Luckily they are going for around 800 on eBay for the 12/256 model that I bought.
Just typing this on my US998 V30+ is soooo much nicer. Having the "all screen" on the OP7 pro is just an illusion.
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Nice to have you back. Someone mentioned you a couple of days back and I was wondering if you'd ever come back. As soon I saw the title I hoped it'd be you. Nice to see you are here
But I am curious why OnePlus 7 pro sucks, I was considering my next phone as OnePlus phone as LG seems to be allowing unlocking only on EU variant devices(and you leaving made unlocking on other regions less likely ) and their updates are slow as ever.
So far h930eu got pie update and it was pulled back but reason was not given. It had issues like notification overlap and poor Ram management. We have rctd and disable verify working for pie.
Australian and some other 930ds as well as Korean v30 also got the update. Those weren't pulled back afaik.
Lineage OS 16 with pie blobs is work in progress. There's some RIL issue on it where sim sometimes works and sometimes doesn't but otherwise it seems a big improvement :laugh::fingers-crossed:
Edit: We also have Ceres kernel now for some time and it's amazing
Glad to have you back.
Edit 2: With pie coming A few of people bricked their phone with 9008
Good job inform him
Also I wonder what's wrong with OP7?
runningnak3d said:
So, the OP7 pro sucks a**. I am done with crap hardware just to have an open phone.
With that said, if @ChazzMatt wants to catch me up on the latest... That would be great.
If anyone wants to know how bad the OP7 pro sucks .. just ask. Luckily they are going for around 800 on eBay for the 12/256 model that I bought.
Just typing this on my US998 V30+ is soooo much nicer. Having the "all screen" on the OP7 pro is just an illusion.
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Nice! Would you consider the V50?
Welcome back I remember how you said goodbye to us before changing to OP7 Pro Honestly I didn't expect such a quick return but this only proves that the V30 is a great and underrated phone. In a free moment describe your problems with OP7 Pro. This will be great advice for others
I used a Pixel 3 XL for 2 weeks. I went insane. It's heavy, ugly, even darker screen than V30, half the battery life and the sound quality was abysmal. Oh and no wide angle camera was driving me insane. Also the GPS in other phones is horrible. You have to shout at Google Assistant for it to hear you lol! It's shocking how much LG nailed the hardware to this day. I returned the Pixel. It made me realize how great my V30 is and that I can go with it for at least two more years.
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So, the OP7 pro sucks a**. I am done with crap hardware just to have an open phone.
With that said, if @ChazzMatt wants to catch me up on the latest... That would be great.
If anyone wants to know how bad the OP7 pro sucks .. just ask. Luckily they are going for around 800 on eBay for the 12/256 model that I bought.
Just typing this on my US998 V30+ is soooo much nicer. Having the "all screen" on the OP7 pro is just an illusion.
-- Brian
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Well...I tried the same with Oneplus 6T...
Brought around 4 months ago.... Used it for a week... And Sold it within the same week...
Camera was pathetic....Inface totally artificial and overprocessed.
Though Oxygen OS was amazing, I would go with better cameras anytime.
Was happy after I was back to V30.
I have used a S10+ for work and daily for a week. I couldnt stand it after that. The ultra sonic reader was absolutely horrible. Beyond me why any manufacturer doesnt have both rear and display FPR. The ultra sonic is not even a good verision of the display FPR in the first place....
Software, Idk if its because Pie is truly trash or Samsung is utterly incapable of optimizing their OS and making any feature at all work just as good as other flagships or even the old V30 i.e proximity sensor/AoD, wide angle, portrait/night mode (V30 Gcam/night sight), manual focus etc. The battery life was a joke, although performance was good the phone was no where near smooth like an iphone.
In terms of design, it was a big phone, in a light compact form factor with one of the best displays. Basically similar feel to a V30. For S10+ price range and samsung being the industry lead, you would think we would see an innovative implementation of the infinity O display. But nope, no front wide angle, no ToF/infared/depth sensor, no shoulder buttons, nothing worth changing usage at all. If we look at the note 10, no new front optics/iris, right hand power button, headphone jack, SD card expansion, and rear sensor all gone. Its sad LG is losing against these imbeciles.
Anyway my ending point, it will be a tricky one upgrading from the V30 i think. OP 7 pro imo, is good but the phone is gigantic and heavy. No rear sensor, jack or SD slot. The V50 has it all but its $1k and is bootloader locked.....
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I have used a S10+ for work and daily for a week. I couldnt stand it after that. The ultra sonic reader was absolutely horrible. Beyond me why any manufacturer doesnt have both rear and display FPR. The ultra sonic is not even a good verision of the display FPR in the first place....
Software, Idk if its because Pie is truly trash or Samsung is utterly incapable of optimizing their OS and making any feature at all work just as good as other flagships or even the old V30 i.e proximity sensor/AoD, wide angle, portrait/night mode (V30 Gcam/night sight), manual focus etc. The battery life was a joke, although performance was good the phone was no where near smooth like an iphone.
In terms of design, it was a big phone, in a light compact form factor with one of the best displays. Basically similar feel to a V30. For S10+ price range and samsung being the industry lead, you would think we would see an innovative implementation of the infinity O display. But nope, no front wide angle, no ToF/infared/depth sensor, no shoulder buttons, nothing worth changing usage at all. If we look at the note 10, no new front optics/iris, right hand power button, headphone jack, SD card expansion, and rear sensor all gone. Its sad LG is losing against these imbeciles.
Anyway my ending point, it will be a tricky one upgrading from the V30 i think. OP 7 pro imo, is good but the phone is gigantic and heavy. No rear sensor, jack or SD slot. The V50 has it all but its $1k and is bootloader locked.....
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V50 is good. And it price will drop fast. And for the future, who know if it can be unlocked, like the v30 is not supposed to be unlocked for all model
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So, the OP7 pro sucks a**. I am done with crap hardware just to have an open phone.
With that said, if @ChazzMatt wants to catch me up on the latest... That would be great.
If anyone wants to know how bad the OP7 pro sucks .. just ask. Luckily they are going for around 800 on eBay for the 12/256 model that I bought.
Just typing this on my US998 V30+ is soooo much nicer. Having the "all screen" on the OP7 pro is just an illusion.
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tech_infinity said:
Nice to have you back. Someone mentioned you a couple of days back and I was wondering if you'd ever come back. As soon I saw the title I hoped it'd be you. Nice to see you are here
So far h930eu got pie update and it was pulled back but reason was not given. It had issues like notification overlap and poor Ram management. We have rctd and disable verify working for pie.
Australian and some other 930ds as well as Korean v30 also got the update. Those weren't pulled back afaik.
Lineage OS 16 with pie blobs is work in progress. There's some RIL issue on it where sim sometimes works and sometimes doesn't but otherwise it seems a big improvement :laugh::fingers-crossed:
Edit: We also have Ceres kernel now for some time and it's amazing
Glad to have you back.
Edit 2: With pie coming A few of people bricked their phone with 9008
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@tech_infinity just about covered it all.
We have newer:
Dev Patched LGUP (by @tecknight),
rctd (by @JohnFawkes) and
disable verify (by @Zackptg5)
files which are compatible with Pie, as well as backwards compatible with Oreo. I've put the newer LGUP in relevant threads like Frankenstein, WTF Instructions and EU H930 Pie KDZ (for several people who want to DOWNGRADE from buggy Pie back to stable Oreo).
I had to re-write the Section 6 (TWRP stuff) of the WTF instructions slightly for the different order for the newer disable encryption and disable root checker files. Basically you have to flash Magisk twice. You can read a copy here, which is a standalone post in the EU H930 Pie KDZ thread.
Stable TWRP 3.2.3.7 is still recommended by our TWRP dev -- yes, even on Pie.
I have new Pie KDZ threads locked and loaded for North American variants, whenever they are released. That link is for US998, but I have all the others ready too.
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On the non-dev side, we still have people who refuse to read. This guy posted IN the WTF thread he couldn't find the instructions even though the first post of the WTF thread is a HUGE hyperlink to go to the Instructions... Several people set him straight.
Couple days later, another guy claimed the WTF Instructions were a complete mess ("rabbit holes") and said the Frankenstein Instructions not only didn't have KDZ download links, that there was "no mention" anywhere in the thread where to download needed KDZ. I called him a liar to his face and posted screenshot of Frankenstein Instructions showing KDZ download links.
He basically wanted a dedicated thread for US998 -- instead of instructions where you follow what's right for your variant. (And he didn't even need Frankenstein, as he was already on US998 with fastboot flash commands.) He also didn't quite comprehend he needed to downgrade to pre-July 2018 Oreo, even though that's said several times throughout the WTF instructions -- especially at the beginning, and also listed first in the Troubleshooting Tips. That's the WHOLE POINT of WTF bootloader unlock exploit! Plus, I had reiterated that prerequisite at least TWICE in my replies to him.
Then, a few hours later he bricked his phone trying to flash T-mobile H932 firmware onto his US998. I asked him why he did that, and posted screenshots from both WTF and Frankenstein threads showing bolded red letter warnings T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption. He said he thought warning was only one way, not the other.
I'm not picking on the 2nd guy specifically (I'm sorry he bricked his phone) -- but both are examples of people rushing to do something and not reading. Skimming so fast they miss very important information. (How can you miss the post #1 link to the WTF instructions?)
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Anyway, WELCOME BACK!
And yes, LG nailed the hardware for the LG V30. It really was the best phone of all 2017, and with the early Oreo WTF bootloader unlock exploit it's PURE GOLD. (I still suspect someone in LG did that on purpose. So thank you to them also!)
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V50 is good. And it price will drop fast. And for the future, who know if it can be unlocked, like the v30 is not supposed to be unlocked for all model
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Yeah. But those who want to buy a phone soon and definitely want to be able to root and install custom ROMs, they can't really take that gamble.
Also LG seems be messing up a lot. India (world's 2nd largest smartphone market), they launched neither the V50 nor the G8. Even V40 costs about 600$ right now.
I was almost about to post that the important message of this thread is that Brian IS BACK, not the inferiorities of various other phones. But I see now that ChazzMatt got us back on track.
Anyways welcome back, buddy. In sorry the OP7 didn't work for you, but you've been missed! We've held the fort in your absence, with Chazz and the Devs doing the heavy lifting as usual.
H932 lafsploit is still going strong. As always a few people have problems or "misread" ( ) the instructions, and we try to get them back on track the best we can. But sometimes we just don't know the exact answer and missed your insight.
As you've seen, Pie is finally on its way, hit the Korean V300 and the European H930. LG pulled it temporarily and are now in the process of re-releasing it.
My current obsession is the fact that all Pie KDZs we've seen so far are still ARB0, which means V30 is still rootable, since we can still roll back, either for WTF or for lafsploit. We have yet to see US releases, but fingers crossed that the barn door stays open
Once again welcome back. The offer to meet and help with Windows on your PCs stands, as I'm only 10mins away.
runningnak3d said:
So, the OP7 pro sucks a**. I am done with crap hardware just to have an open phone.
With that said, if @ChazzMatt wants to catch me up on the latest... That would be great.
If anyone wants to know how bad the OP7 pro sucks .. just ask. Luckily they are going for around 800 on eBay for the 12/256 model that I bought.
Just typing this on my US998 V30+ is soooo much nicer. Having the "all screen" on the OP7 pro is just an illusion.
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Man, I just got the Note 9 a few weeks ago and I keep my cracked screen V30+ on hand to listen to music. The Note just can't crack it plus root is nice.
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On the non-dev side, we still have people who refuse to read. This guy posted IN the WTF thread he couldn't find the instructions even though the first post of the WTF thread is a HUGE hyperlink for the instructions. Several people set him straight.
Couple days later, another guy claimed the WTF Instructions were a complete mess ("rabbit holes") and said the Frankenstein Instructions didn't have KDZ download links. I called him a liar to his face and posted screenshot showing Frankenstein KDZ download links. He basically wanted a dedicated thread for US998, instead of instructions where you follow what's right for your variant. He also didn't quite comprehend he needed to downgrade to early Oreo, even though that's said several times throughout the WTF instructions -- especially at the beginning, and listed first in the Troubleshooting Tips... Plus, I had reiterated that prerequisite at least TWICE in my replies to him.
Then, a few hours later he bricked his phone trying to flash T-mobile H932 firmware onto his US998. I asked him why he did that, and posted screenshots from both WTF and Frankenstein threads showing bolded red letter warnings T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption. He said he thought warning was only one way, not the other.
I'm not picking on the 2nd guy specifically (I'm sorry he bricked his phone) -- but both are examples of people rushing to do something and not reading. Skimming so fast they miss very important information. (How can you miss the post #1 link to the WTF instructions?)
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Lol what's wrong with this guy, didn't know he ended up bricking his phone :laugh:
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Lol what's wrong with this guy, didn't know he ended up bricking his phone :laugh:
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Yeah, you tried to help him too. You also told him he needed to downgrade to pre-July 2018 Oreo.
I'm sorry he bricked his phone. But everything he NEEDED to do or should NOT do, was clearly written.
Don't forget LG and Samsung have easy firehose rescues using Octoplus box to fix Qualcomm USB QLD 9008 hard bricks
Dang guys; you're really making me not want to upgrade ?
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I used a Pixel 3 XL for 2 weeks. I went insane. It's heavy, ugly, even darker screen than V30, half the battery life and the sound quality was abysmal. Oh and no wide angle camera was driving me insane. Also the GPS in other phones is horrible. You have to shout at Google Assistant for it to hear you lol! It's shocking how much LG nailed the hardware to this day. I returned the Pixel. It made me realize how great my V30 is and that I can go with it for at least two more years.
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I find this hard to believe. The pixel 3xl is basically v30 with some changes as you mentioned like have a wide angle camera and the DAC which I don't use.
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HueyT said:
Don't forget LG and Samsung have easy firehose rescues using Octoplus box to fix Qualcomm USB QLD 9008 hard bricks
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This is reassuring, tbh. Thanks for tha info.
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I find this hard to believe. The pixel 3xl is basically v30 with some changes as you mentioned like have a wide angle camera and the DAC which I don't use.
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Different preferences for different folks. Personally, i dislike the Pixel (at least compared to the v30). I'm probably biased, but where I'm from Pixels are expensive. Moreso than LG phones after a few months (their price drops insanely fast, at least in my opinion).
Also, i was never an audiophile (I'm not one even after the v30), but i have to say my tase in audio has shifted significantly after this getting this phone (and some chifi equipment). I'm going with v30 on this, but I'm sure many people would disagree.
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I find this hard to believe. The pixel 3xl is basically v30 with some changes as you mentioned like have a wide angle camera and the DAC which I don't use.
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Yeah. If someone told me they'd give me their pixel 3xl in exchange for my v30+150$ I'd probably do it.
Seems like pixel 3xl didn't match up with what he personally wanted
Though pixel devices have been notorious for having some or the other issue soon after soon.
Just watch 4K 60 FPS super steady mode! Is this insane or what? Check out the last video!
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vwg4i9jennior3v/20190829_164313.mp4/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vw1s8u9g0fqlp3w/20190829_165507.mp4/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cakeny7h15ho1u9/20190829_181256.mp4/file
Is this recorded with the G8 or the G8s?
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Is this recorded with the G8 or the G8s?
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Neither. LG V50.
@Inerent, when you cross post demos like this to other forums, you should explain the phone you're using. Same question was asked in the V30 forum when you posted this. Unless otherwise stated, users assume you are showing some capability of the phone the forum is about...
As for me, I'm happy with my LG V30+ and have no plans to upgrade to another phone until next year about this time IF LG puts out something in which I'm interested. I also don't want a 1st Gen 5G phone.
My phone is rooted (all V30 variants can be rooted, don't need LG permission), I have Magisk mods that give me G7/V40 camera. No notch, etc. I'm very satisfied with my V30+.
So no matter how awesome the V50 may be, I don't care.
However, others may be interested -- as long as you clearly identify your sales pitch. But G8 is 2019 phone, so probably not many are going change phones this soon. In fact, G8 owners probably specifically chose it over V50 (which came out about the same time), if I remember correctly.
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Neither. LG V50.
@Inerent, when you cross post demos like this to other forums, you should explain the phone you're using. Same question was asked in the V30 forum when you posted this. Unless otherwise stated, users assume you are showing some capability of the phone the forum is about...
As for me, I'm happy with my LG V30+ and have no plans to upgrade to another phone until next year about this time IF LG puts out something in which I'm interested. I also don't want a 1st Gen 5G phone.
My phone is rooted, I have Magisk mods that give me G7/V40 camera. No notch, etc. I'm very satisfied with my V30+
So no matter how awesome the V50 may be, I don't care.
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Got it. Sorry.
do you think this will eventually be ported to the G8? i mean almost everything internally is the same V50 and G8.
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do you think this will eventually be ported to the G8? i mean almost everything internally is the same V50 and G8.
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Not quite the same. Also V series has better software. Telling you because I was coming from G7
Hello, I am wanting to buy a smartphone that is as complete as possible in all aspects and this LG G8s is a great option that I am seeing.
One of my doubts is the Software, in many reviews they kill it for it, is it so bad?
Do you still recommend it or would you buy another one at the same price today ($ 400)? The only two that call my attention against the G8s are the Huawei P30 and Xiaomi Mi note 10.
Galeonero said:
Hello, I am wanting to buy a smartphone that is as complete as possible in all aspects and this LG G8s is a great option that I am seeing.
One of my doubts is the Software, in many reviews they kill it for it, is it so bad?
Do you still recommend it or would you buy another one at the same price today ($ 400)? The only two that call my attention against the G8s are the Huawei P30 and Xiaomi Mi note 10.
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$400? I would buy a g8 off eBay for around $300 (make sure to not get an at&t one or Verizon)
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$400? I would buy a g8 off eBay for around $300 (make sure to not get an at&t one or Verizon)
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The price is the only one I get in Argentina, I can't buy on eBay.
If you don't care about updates, the software works out of the box. You do not have to restrict, disable, deactivate applications. Everything is working properly.
The ONLY thing this phone has going for IMO is the price. I got an ATT version for $230 and don't feel ripped off at all. If I paid $400 for it? Yeah I'd probably feel ripped off.
Hi, how are you? I tell you my experience, I have had the LG G8s ThinQ for three months and for now no problem, except as they said above, the topic of the updates because it has not yet been updated to Android 10 being high-end of 2019. But someday it will arrive for sure . Beyond that, excellent equipment, supports any application and game without problems or lags. Great screen, perfect audio, beautiful design. I am quite satisfied except for the updates because I really like modifying the system (modding). I bought it in Argentina together with your LG W7 watch.
I got a Verizon G8, it's been updated and everything to Android 10, has desktop mode, beautiful screen, great cameras, it's fast, battery life is good. The LG G8 is very under rated.
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The ONLY thing this phone has going for IMO is the price. I got an ATT version for $230 and don't feel ripped off at all. If I paid $400 for it? Yeah I'd probably feel ripped off.
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It has a lot more than that going for it. Top of the line specs, ip68, wireless charging, SD card, the last flagship with a headphone jack and a duel dack for fantastic sound. 2k screen, what more you want from a phone?
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I got a Verizon G8, it's been updated and everything to Android 10, has desktop mode, beautiful screen, great cameras, it's fast, battery life is good. The LG G8 is very under rated.
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It has a lot more than that going for it. Top of the line specs, ip68, wireless charging, SD card, the last flagship with a headphone jack and a duel dack for fantastic sound. 2k screen, what more you want from a phone?
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I just want a smooth experience. You're right, wireless charging and water proof are a nice feature that I've used but my essential phone was way faster than this phone. So many hitches and slow transitions with the software. Ok Google detection going in and out. Camera being so slow to load often making me miss what I was trying to take a picture of. The list just goes on and on. The software just sucks
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I just want a smooth experience. You're right, wireless charging and water proof are a nice feature that I've used but my essential phone was way faster than this phone. So many hitches and slow transitions with the software. Ok Google detection going in and out. Camera being so slow to load often making me miss what I was trying to take a picture of. The list just goes on and on. The software just sucks
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Then use a gsi
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Then use a gsi
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Not an option with my device (ATT LG G8)
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Not an option with my device (ATT LG G8)
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Are you on android 10?
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Are you on android 10?
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Yes i am
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Yes i am
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How is it not an option then? If you have an exploitable firmware version
I have a G8 through Xfinity and I think it's pretty great. I have always had phones that could be rooted and ROM'd, but I don't really miss it. The quad dac is awesome, it's fast, every game I've tried works great, and I get updates all the time. I just got one today. G820QM520i. June security update. I think even at $400 this phone isn't a bad value, especially depending on where you live.
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I have a G8 through Xfinity and I think it's pretty great. I have always had phones that could be rooted and ROM'd, but I don't really miss it. The quad dac is awesome, it's fast, every game I've tried works great, and I get updates all the time. I just got one today. G820QM520i. June security update. I think even at $400 this phone isn't a bad value, especially depending on where you live.
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You can root though. But since you've done all the updates (I'm assuming the one today was may or June patch), you can only do it if you had a kdz available for your model. But I'm pretty sure all the qm ones do, so go for root if you'd like
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How is it not an option then? If you have an exploitable firmware version
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I have an exploitable Android 10 firmware but all I can get is temp root. Afaik only sprint ones can bootloader unlock.
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I have an exploitable Android 10 firmware but all I can get is temp root. Afaik only sprint ones can bootloader unlock.
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No all of them can. I'll publish the files everyone needs as soon as I manage to get them all
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No all of them can. I'll publish the files everyone needs as soon as I manage to get them all
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Legend if so.
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Legend if so.
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I was planning on doing it yesterday, but I've been a bit busy switching from windows to Linux. I'll do it asap tomorrow