Guys,
I didn't see any questions popped up in the forum yet about unlocked bootloaders. I'd like to buy an unlocked version directly from Samsung. I remember Best Buy selling a different version of an unlocked S7 and S8 that you could not unlock the bootloader. With that said, I wanted to create a small list of the majority of S9's here in the states and see if we can confirm the bootloader is unlockable and that fastboot commands work.
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ Unlocked direct from Samsung
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ Unocked from brick and mortar stores like Best Buy / B&H Photo, etc.
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from Verizon
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from Sprint
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from AT&T
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from T-Mobile
Thanks, guys!
joesee said:
I didn't see any questions popped up in the forum yet about unlocked bootloaders.
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That's because we all know the snapdragon ones will be locked, if you want an unlocked bootloader get the european one.
I thought that "unlocked" in this context just meant it it's unlocked from the various carriers, not that the bootloader was unlocked?
protella said:
I thought that "unlocked" in this context just meant it it's unlocked from the various carriers, not that the bootloader was unlocked?
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Clearly we 'all' don't know, hence the reason why the thread was created.
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That's because we all know the snapdragon ones will be locked, if you want an unlocked bootloader get the european one.
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Do you have any idea if Samsung warranties the Exynos versions here in the states?
joesee said:
Do you have any idea if Samsung warranties the Exynos versions here in the states?
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No it doesn't, but if you buy your phone from clove.co.uk they will help you with warranty if you send it back to them, but if you unlock your bootloader and root the phone then your warranty is gone anyway.
joesee said:
Guys,
I didn't see any questions popped up in the forum yet about unlocked bootloaders. I'd like to buy an unlocked version directly from Samsung. I remember Best Buy selling a different version of an unlocked S7 and S8 that you could not unlock the bootloader. With that said, I wanted to create a small list of the majority of S9's here in the states and see if we can confirm the bootloader is unlockable and that fastboot commands work.
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ Unlocked direct from Samsung
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ Unocked from brick and mortar stores like Best Buy / B&H Photo, etc.
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from Verizon
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from Sprint
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from AT&T
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from T-Mobile
Thanks, guys!
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Your list is showing network unlocked devices and such not bootloader unlockables
That's because each carrier in the states typically has their own variant and each has different bootloader status. Usually Verizon is locked down. Usually T-Mobile isn't (until recent years), so I created the thread to have one place to look and CONFIRM if a bootloader is locked or not.
This has nothing to do whether or not the phone is SIM unlocked. (Locked to a carrier)
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That's because we all know the snapdragon ones will be locked, if you want an unlocked bootloader get the european one.
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This says it all.
Go exynos, snapdragons are a waste of time if you want an unlocked bootloader and development
The Chinese devices are snaps and BL unlocked also but see next to no development. So again exynos is a better choice
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
Would still be good to get a confirmation whenever someone gets their "unlocked" snapdragon S9. Personally, I'm just waiting for Clove to get their stock... I would be highly surprised if you could unlock the snapdragon's S9 BL
peachpuff said:
No it doesn't, but if you buy your phone from clove.co.uk they will help you with warranty if you send it back to them, but if you unlock your bootloader and root the phone then your warranty is gone anyway.
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False. Denying warranty service for an unrelated issue is illegal in the US, large swaths of europe and many other places.
You and many others have fallen victim to a misinformation campaign put on by Samsung and many carriers to make you think this is true so that you either won't do it or if you do and they're is an issue then you won't even try.
Keep in mind it has to be something impossible to be caused by unlock or root, like for example a physical screen detect or the outside body becoming discolored. If it could at all be caused by something you did that you couldn't do without unlock or root you are still sol even if you know you didn't
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False. Denying warranty service for an unrelated issue is illegal in the US, large swaths of europe and many other places.
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How many phones with knox tripped has samsung fixed for you under warranty? Illegal schmiegel no one is going to take samsung to court in the US if the service center denies you warranty if knox is tripped.
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How many phones with knox tripped has samsung fixed for you under warranty? Illegal schmiegel no one is going to take samsung to court in the US if the service center denies you warranty if knox is tripped.
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Small claims is a great, inexpensive way to get big corporations to cooperate when damages are small. No lawyers in most states, and companies will usually fix the problem rather than spending the resources to send someone to some small, local court to respond.
check the s7 and s8 Snapdragon forums and you will know what to expect.
as for fastboot on Samsung, you dont do that. You use Odin.
This is amazing. An entire thread of posts pertaining to everything except the op's question. To that end -
Yes! There are Snapdragon S8's and 9's with unlockable bootloaders. Snapdragon S8's we're being sold in China (by Samsung themselves) with unlockable bootloaders. With the S9, these phones are being sold in Latin America as well, making them easier to import. I don't know how, and wish I knew more about this before I bought my Snapdragon US variant.
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This is amazing. An entire thread of posts pertaining to everything except the op's question. To that end -
Yes! There are Snapdragon S8's and 9's with unlockable bootloaders. Snapdragon S8's we're being sold in China (by Samsung themselves) with unlockable bootloaders. With the S9, these phones are being sold in Latin America as well, making them easier to import. I don't know how, and wish I knew more about this before I bought my Snapdragon US variant.
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Just sell it and buy an unlocked one, easy problem to fix
Now sure the Chinese and latin snaps are unlockable but historically see next to no development, exynos is where all the action is.
Something to keep in mind.
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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False. Denying warranty service for an unrelated issue is illegal in the US, large swaths of europe and many other places.
You and many others have fallen victim to a misinformation campaign put on by Samsung and many carriers to make you think this is true so that you either won't do it or if you do and they're is an issue then you won't even try.
Keep in mind it has to be something impossible to be caused by unlock or root, like for example a physical screen detect or the outside body becoming discolored. If it could at all be caused by something you did that you couldn't do without unlock or root you are still sol even if you know you didn't
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Samsung USA is a different company than Samsung. If you buy an exynos phone from Samsung, Samsung USA has no obligation to warranty it. I've tried.
kekistaneerefugee said:
Samsung USA is a different company than Samsung. If you buy an exynos phone from Samsung, Samsung USA has no obligation to warranty it. I've tried.
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Same here in Canada, but I'd rather have to deal with that than end up with a POS device which is locked down lol.
I just ordered a 128gb, dual sim exynos s9 plus so my trend with exynos continues ?
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
kekistaneerefugee said:
Samsung USA is a different company than Samsung. If you buy an exynos phone from Samsung, Samsung USA has no obligation to warranty it. I've tried.
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Im sorry I don't follow,but I think it's irrelevent. It does not matter what the corporate structure of Samsung is. When you purchase a device, that device comes with a warranty. It is illegal in the usa to refuse service for an incident unrelated to root that would otherwise be covered by warranty. Doesn't matter if the warranty is with Santa Claus, it's still subject to us law.
They will of course try and tell you otherwise, but standing your ground, knowing your rights and threatening to sue in small claims court if it comes to it will get your warranty honored.
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Im sorry I don't follow,but I think it's irrelevent. It does not matter what the corporate structure of Samsung is. When you purchase a device, that device comes with a warranty. It is illegal in the usa to refuse service for an incident unrelated to root that would otherwise be covered by warranty. Doesn't matter if the warranty is with Santa Claus, it's still subject to us law.
They will of course try and tell you otherwise, but standing your ground, knowing your rights and threatening to sue in small claims court if it comes to it will get your warranty honored.
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Wont work sorry.
Do you really think samsung cares about small claims court? They could show up with an army of lawyers if they wanted to. You on the other hand would spend more on a lawyer than what buying a new device would cost.
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I've heard plenty of people comment that all snapdragon variants will not be able to unlock the bootloader. As far as I can tell though this has just been speculation based on the s7 and s8. Is there anyone who has an unlocked model that can confirm they can't unlock the bootloader?
Additionally, if anyone has the T-Mobile variant can you confirm you can't unlock the bootloader on it.
Poke_N_PDA said:
I've heard plenty of people comment that all snapdragon variants will not be able to unlock the bootloader. As far as I can tell though this has just been speculation based on the s7 and s8. Is there anyone who has an unlocked model that can confirm they can't unlock the bootloader?
Additionally, if anyone has the T-Mobile variant can you confirm you can't unlock the bootloader on it.
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I have Snapdragon with unlocked bootloader. Hong Kong variant - SM-G9650. You can find it on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item33e4a7f7bc:m:mnFRmnuhEaxfI-dzrYsceIg
varcor said:
I have Snapdragon with unlocked bootloader. Hong Kong variant - SM-G9650. You can find it on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item33e4a7f7bc:m:mnFRmnuhEaxfI-dzrYsceIg
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Is it worth buying? I've read that they're terrible at getting updates. The S8+ equivalent (G9550) hasn't even gotten Oreo yet, and SamMobile shows *very* few firmwares for it:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s8/SM-G9550/
varcor said:
I have Snapdragon with unlocked bootloader. Hong Kong variant - SM-G9650. You can find it on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item33e4a7f7bc:m:mnFRmnuhEaxfI-dzrYsceIg
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Yep the HK snapdragons are always unlocked.
The rest will 100% ve locked down so its either the HK snap or exynos if you want an unlocked BL.
The exynos gets all the development attend though the HK version doesnt see much.
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Yep the HK snapdragons are always unlocked.
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Does that mean that they come with Knox tripped? As far as I know that was the price to pay when unlocking the other variants, meaning you'd lose Samsung Pay and some camera features.
Zoide_ said:
Does that mean that they come with Knox tripped? As far as I know that was the price to pay when unlocking the other variants, meaning you'd lose Samsung Pay and some camera features.
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No of course knox isnt tripped, why would it be?
And unlocking the exynos does not trip knox either flashing twrp will though.
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Is it worth buying? I've read that they're terrible at getting updates. The S8+ equivalent (G9550) hasn't even gotten Oreo yet, and SamMobile shows *very* few firmwares for it:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s8/SM-G9550/
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With respect to updates you're likely correct, that model will not get the 1st updates. Firmware is typically model specific but it's true you'll see fewer custom ROM's compared to Exynos devices. There's no such thing as a perfect device so then it comes down to what are the primary functions you plan on using? I'm into gaming in which Snapdragon has a clear edge over Exynos but I still wanted an unlocked bootloader for future modifications. So far all US devices are limited to 64gb Internal Memory, not enough for me. Also I travel globally a few times a year so Dual SIM's are a must and not an option in the USA. Samsung Pay was an issue but that has been resolved and now works in the USA on Snapdragon variants, not sure if that's the case with Exynos powered devices. To me the only downside to the device is no voLTE or WiFi Calling but even without those features I don't have issues when communicating via voice calls. As far as not having a warranty it's never come back to bite me on my S6, S7 or S8 but I'm careful with a device, they're too expensive nowadays not to handle with care. One more thing I've noticed in the posts related to International Galaxy devices, Exynos powered units seem to have more bugs. Could be that's due to, at least on this forum more International variants have Exynos chipsets. No doubt a following post will tout "I have Exynos and it works fine", which is likely the case for most owners. Only time will tell.
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With respect to updates you're likely correct, that model will not get the 1st updates. Firmware is typically model specific but it's true you'll see fewer custom ROM's compared to Exynos devices. There's no such thing as a perfect device so then it comes down to what are the primary functions you plan on using? I'm into gaming in which Snapdragon has a clear edge over Exynos but I still wanted an unlocked bootloader for future modifications. So far all US devices are limited to 64gb Internal Memory, not enough for me. Also I travel globally a few times a year so Dual SIM's are a must and not an option in the USA. Samsung Pay was an issue but that has been resolved and now works in the USA on Snapdragon variants, not sure if that's the case with Exynos powered devices. To me the only downside to the device is no voLTE or WiFi Calling but even without those features I don't have issues when communicating via voice calls. As far as not having a warranty it's never come back to bite me on my S6, S7 or S8 but I'm careful with a device, they're too expensive nowadays not to handle with care. One more thing I've noticed in the posts related to International Galaxy devices, Exynos powered units seem to have more bugs. Could be that's due to, at least on this forum more International variants have Exynos chipsets. No doubt a following post will tout "I have Exynos and it works fine", which is likely the case for most owners. Only time will tell.
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Exynos versions get far mote frequent OTA updates as compared to snapdrqgons.. they can be typicallly 4 or 5 versions ahead of the north american versions.
This in my opinion could contribute to more bugs as these updates would not be as rigourously tested I wouldn't think.
And as you said there will be people who say their exynos works fine, i have had exynos versions of the s7 edge, note 7 and s8 plus and can say i never noticed any issues. ?
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I have no idea why anyone on xda site or other development places would by snapdragon. I just bought s8 and learned that they are no cuctom roms no kernels since bootloader for north america is locked due to corporate greed and lack of right regulation other than self lobbing corruption. (normal gov should slap companies for locking it should be prohibited) and i feel that i was spat in the face. Same way just can buy bloody snobbish applephone and what's the difference. Don't buy snaprdagon, buy from another location for exynos or buy another phone. Don't let them spit in your face. Coz they will continue to do so.
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I have no idea why anyone on xda site or other development places would by snapdragon. I just bought s8 and learned that they are no cuctom roms no kernels since bootloader for north america is locked due to corporate greed and lack of right regulation other than self lobbing corruption. (normal gov should slap companies for locking it should be prohibited) and i feel that i was spat in the face. Same way just can buy bloody snobbish applephone and what's the difference. Don't buy snaprdagon, buy from another location for exynos or buy another phone. Don't let them spit in your face. Coz they will continue to do so.
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Not that i disagree with you but you said you dont understand why anyone would buy a snapdragon but you yourself bought one lol?
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
force70 said:
Not that i disagree with you but you said you dont understand why anyone would buy a snapdragon but you yourself bought one lol?
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I assumed that it was for all s8's. that there will be at least a few for snapdragons and didn't check well before i buy, i own s7e exynos and was having much confidence in samsung, but they are as a leaf that bends to every wind that blows on them. I also have tab s2 810. exynos while only snapdragon t813 version of it gets new development only. unpredictable. I would have bout snapdragon only if it was dirt cheap compared to exynos dirt cheap.
I was eyeing unlocked s9 for a while but then i realized if i can't get custom rom in a year after warranty ends and i can't take full control of my phone. Scumsung will not keep updating this phone indefinitely. i can't put latest lineage on it, so WTF am i going to do with it. I already have one motorola rooted lineage phone that i can probably put pie based lineage on it when it becomes available. Excellent support here. My last scumsung phone was galaxy s3 which i rooted and custom rommed. No problems. I must've gone throught 7-8 verizon locked bootloader phones which i could not root and had to get rid of. This is seriously insane. I can't understand why cripple such flagship in us&a. Of course i won't touch s9 or any future scumsung phone which will have permanently locked bl. Same for verizon or any others. Motorola, Huawei don't cripple their phones. Will be looking into those.
UPDATE: BOOTLOADER IS UNLOCKED AND TABLET CAN BE ROOTED USING MAGISK v16.7!
Haven't seen any discussion on root yet for this tablet. I'm interested in picking one up, but would like to know if the bootloader is unlockable so that the tablet could have TWRP/custom ROMs installed on it at some point. Especially interested because of Treble.
Anybody have any ideas yet or is it still too early?
That is also interesting for me. I will never by a phone or tablet without the possibility of rooting. I currently owning the Tab S2 under Lineage OS 14.1 and I am pretty happy with the degree of freedom I have.
I hope the development with the Tab S4 will be more than with the Tab S3 (this was the reason why I never buyed one)
hurray said:
That is also interesting for me. I will never by a phone or tablet without the possibility of rooting. I currently owning the Tab S2 under Lineage OS 14.1 and I am pretty happy with the degree of freedom I have.
I hope the development with the Tab S4 will be more than with the Tab S3 (this was the reason why I never buyed one)
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Sadly don't get your hopes up... SD's are notorious for being locked.
The S3 was Snapdragon and was unlocked as far as I'm aware. Either way, I have sent Samsung an e-mail requesting kernel source code for the Tab S4 since it apparently hasn't been done yet. Just waiting for a response.
With the Samsung devices I've had, no issue unlocking the bootloader. You have to use Odin or Heimdall to load a rom, and your warranty is voided (they've all had a 'knox bit' that gets burnt and is irreversible once burnt).
SD's notorious for being locked? Not in my experience. They are the most common chips to have aftermarket roms, thus the devices have to be unlockable. I'd put my money on a rom being developed for a device with an SD before any other chip available.
AsItLies said:
With the Samsung devices I've had, no issue unlocking the bootloader. You have to use Odin or Heimdall to load a rom, and your warranty is voided (they've all had a 'knox bit' that gets burnt and is irreversible once burnt).
SD's notorious for being locked? Not in my experience. They are the most common chips to have aftermarket roms, thus the devices have to be unlockable. I'd put my money on a rom being developed for a device with an SD before any other chip available.
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In terms of phones, all Samsung Snapdragon phones sold anywhere except China/HK are bootloader locked. That's why I ended up importing an Exynos variant S9, so that I could benefit from the unlocked bootloader.
Bl is NOT locked. I contacted @ashyx a few days hoping he could make us a twrp, but he hasn't got back to me.
Phones are not tablets. Phones are generally branded to a carrier that likes to fiddle with the UI, add unremovable bloatware, determine tethering rules, and other things that can be circumvented with root. My money is that the generic tab s4 gets an unlocked bootloader eventually and the Verizon branded one does not
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Phones are not tablets. Phones are generally branded to a carrier that likes to fiddle with the UI, add unremovable bloatware, determine tethering rules, and other things that can be circumvented with root. My money is that the generic tab s4 gets an unlocked bootloader eventually and the Verizon branded one does not
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The generic tab S4 is the one that I plan to pick up. I'm just worried because even the official carrier unlocked Galaxy S9 sold in the US and Canada has a locked bootloader, so it just seems like a very Samsung thing right now.
tomiga said:
The generic tab S4 is the one that I plan to pick up. I'm just worried because even the official carrier unlocked Galaxy S9 sold in the US and Canada has a locked bootloader, so it just seems like a very Samsung thing right now.
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We will see. If the bootloader is really locked I will not become a customer of the Tab S4. Simple as that, as then there is no benefit for me anymore.
Received an e-mail this morning from Samsung in regards to the Tab S4 kernel source:
[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
model name : SM-T830
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your interest in our product.
We are now in the process of reviewing your inquiry.
We will let you know a reply to this issue soon.
Sincerely yours,
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I have the Verizon T837V if any info is needed. There's already an update, but I haven't taken it yet.
Edit: looks like it might just be a security update, data usage is claiming only about 10mb for system update.
Edit 2: it's a small build update, new kernel, baseband.
TechNyne66 said:
I have the Verizon T837V if any info is needed. There's already an update, but I haven't taken it yet.
Edit: looks like it might just be a security update, data usage is claiming only about 10mb for system update.
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Unfortunately I'm expecting the Verizon variant to be locked. I'm moreso just curious about the generic Wi-Fi variant.
tomiga said:
Unfortunately I'm expecting the Verizon variant to be locked. I'm moreso just curious about the generic Wi-Fi variant.
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Vz will absolutely be locked. WiFi is not.
suzook said:
Vz will absolutely be locked. WiFi is not.
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Do you have a source on this?
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Do you have a source on this?
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I have it. I'm the source.
suzook said:
I have it. I'm the source.
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Without anything custom to flash yet, how do you know that the bootloader is unlocked? As far as I'm aware, just having "OEM Unlock" available in developer settings doesn't necessarily mean that custom binaries (TWRP, for example) can be flashed without throwing an error.
I'm just trying to be extremely careful before I get a Tab S4, because I don't want to buy it only to end up returning it just because it ends up being locked after all.
[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
♦ model name : SM-T830 ♦
Dear Customer,
We are pleased to provide you the source code of SM-T830.
You can download the source code from the site below: http://opensource.samsung.com
Thank you.
Sincerely yours,
Samsung OSRC Team
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Sure enough, the source code is also available on the Samsung OSRC website.
Well thats cool.
When I was thinking SD not being unlocked I'm thinking of the phone versions are not unlock able, or rarity that they can be.
suzook said:
Bl is NOT locked. I contacted @ashyx a few days hoping he could make us a twrp, but he hasn't got back to me.
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u saying u purchased the verizon tab s4 from verizon and unlocked the bootloader?
Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?
BadBoy2K7 said:
Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?
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Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).
Exynos equals root.
carandcar said:
Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).
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For realsies? none of the "U" Variant... So I cant root my note 10+ SM-N975U? Dang that really grinds my gears!!!!!!!!
Leave it to samsung to figure out a new way to keep people from rooting their phones... "Hey lets get rid of the OEM unlock toggle, that way they cant unlock the bootloader and root their phone, and will have to keep all the bloatware we, and their carrier, force down their throats against their will, whether they want to or not."
I knew I never should have bought this phone. I swore 6 years ago I would never own another Samsung Device, but then they came out with this cool new phone and I wanted it so bad. I should have just waited until the pixel 4 XL came out and bought it instead.
Guess I'll Know better next time around at least, and by the time I need a new phone hopefully all phones will have the inscreen ultrasonic fingerprint reader.
I HATE YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/
SD=Snapdragon, the SoC of the N975U/N975U1 phones. Those devices for US market have the locked bootloader.
The models with Exynos SoC (Samsung's own SoC), in models of most international markets N975F have working OEM unlock option and thereby unlockable bootloader.
Why would Samsung provide unlockable bootloader for one part of the world, but not for US where phones have US SoC (I.c. Snapdragon)? You tell me...
Maybe you can join this club: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/bounty-sm-n975u1-note-10-usa-unlocked-t4006249
gkennedy88 said:
What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/
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lol they sure get a lot of clicks with that fake news
try setting a lock. i've had this same issue and thats what worked for me. Although when i unlock and root, it factory reset which sucked.
OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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Well why not do a oneplus/google thing where unlocked versions have unlockable bootloaders while carrier versions don't?
Note 10+ Snapdragon
It is a nice device stock, after flashing the N975U1 firmware with ODIN, and disabling (at least), about 150 system-apps with ADB, it is fast and efficient.
I can't imagine how nice the Note 10+ would be with administrative rights.
Guys if i bought from US (Best Buy) unlocked by Samsung Galaxy Fold and i don't getting OEM unlock in Dev settings. (I researched some tutorials how to unlock by skipping the time etc, but still no luck)
So is that mean US versions of galaxy fold Bootloader is locked ?
Samsung phones sold in the US haven't had an unlock-able bootloader since the S6 unfortunately
unknownbeing said:
Samsung phones sold in the US haven't had an unlock-able bootloader since the S6 unfortunately
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Oh maan....if i knew that. So what's the point of US unlock version....damn Samsung. I can get chipper carrier version and unlock sim online for 30$. Now im think to get international version.
avetny said:
Now im think to get international version.
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Do you really want to buy a $2K phone with potential durability issues that has no warranty and no U.S. support? I have a Spanish Tab S6 LTE so know about life with grey market devices but I wouldn't even think of buying a Fold that way. In fact, I bought my Fold via AT&T Next for the sole reason that I only have to keep it for a year and won't have to worry about how it ages or its resale value. I've always bought outright from Samsung as each new generation of phone launched but not this time and not with a phone who's resale desirability and value is going to be a giant question mark.
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Do you really want to buy a $2K phone with potential durability issues that has no warranty and no U.S. support? I have a Spanish Tab S6 LTE so know about life with grey market devices but I wouldn't even think of buying a Fold that way. In fact, I bought my Fold via AT&T Next for the sole reason that I only have to keep it for a year and won't have to worry about how it ages or its resale value. I've always bought outright from Samsung as each new generation of phone launched but not this time and not with a phone who's resale desirability and value is going to be a giant question mark.
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I changing phone every 2-3 months. You don't remember me ? First galaxy note? Because i remember you
I got space silver US unlocked. Thinking to sell it and get space black international (even if 5G is useles). Android without root it's a gym without weights...getting boring.
Did u try new build ASJ4? New kernel is kicking so hard over there. A lot of stuff fixed.