Dual Speaker Mod? - Moto G5S Questions & Answers

Before I owned this device, I had a Galaxy S7. The dual speaker Mod on this device added many benefits to the sound quality, and a mod for this device would be perfect. I am no-where near a developer, so can one of our talented developers try this, or at least explain to me how to go about it. ?
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SOUND QUALITY (when compared with devices equipped with the Wolfson DAC )

Just curiuous about the sound quality of the Oppo find 7 compared with those devices carrying the Wolfson DAC .
Regardin headset output
Anyone?
I don't know about headphones but all i know is this phone has the loudest and clearest speakers i have ever seen on a smartphone. I have owned all of the galaxy models, droid dna, xperia z2, optimus g pro, nexus 4, huawei mate; to name a few. Besides the HTC Boom sound i don't think many others come close. Most of the time it is literally too loud for general use at full volume.
Thanks
But I am really interested on the headset sound quality.
No external speaker can match my JBL portable ( for phones) ..
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Actually, it would be interesting to know what is the it's the impact (if any)of the cooperation between Waves and Wolfson ( http://www.analog-eetimes.com/en/mo...-technologies.html?cmp_id=7&news_id=222905459 ) on the find 7, since the Snapdragon processor got its own DAC...
betoNL said:
Just curiuous about the sound quality of the Oppo find 7 compared with those devices carrying the Wolfson DAC .
Regardin headset output
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This is my second device with Snapdragon DAC(first was a Xiaomi Mi-2) and both has a very good sound output with well balance equalizer and 0 distortion. MaxxAudio and DiracHD(in ColorOS) it's DSP and as well they put they signature efects and equalizer, this things I don't like. Comparing to Wolfson DAC in my Galaxy devices ,my iPhone 1st gen and my iPod I can't complain about quality and power output, of course they have diferent signatures of sound but every DAC and headphone has too.
dextructor said:
This is my second device with Snapdragon DAC(first was a Xiaomi Mi-2) and both has a very good sound output with well balance equalizer and 0 distortion. MaxxAudio and DiracHD(in ColorOS) it's DSP and as well they put they signature efects and equalizer, this things I don't like. Comparing to Wolfson DAC in my Galaxy devices ,my iPhone 1st gen and my iPod I can't complain about quality and power output, of course they have diferent signatures of sound but every DAC and headphone has too.
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I am also not that impressed with this "award winning" maxxaudio thing and I wonder if it's any better than Viper4Android as a DSP manager.
I guess I just have to take my headsets to a showroom and run some tests on another device carrying probably the same Qualcomm built-in DAC such as the HTC 1 M8.
However it could be that the HTC got another amp implementation ......
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betoNL said:
I am also not that impressed with this "award winning" maxxaudio thing and I wonder if it's any better than Viper4Android as a DSP manager.
I guess I just have to take my headsets to a showroom and run some tests on another device carrying probably the same Qualcomm built-in DAC such as the HTC 1 M8.
However it could be that the HTC got another amp implementation .......
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As a DSP manager MaxxAudio has a good performance and serve for his purpose that is general public and even Viper has a profile that's similar to it. Equalizers and DSP are fairly wrong because they aren't correct anything but adding something that they don't need used and makes even a great DAC like Wolfson sounds bad.
I'll be able to give you subjective views soon enough
I own the SGS3 (with Boeffla sound) and have the Oppo Find 7 coming to me within a week.
I own the Modded D2Ks (essentailly D5Ks) and Audeo Phonak PFE232s
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
betoNL said:
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
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no worries
betoNL said:
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
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Hey there!
Here's my impressions - I just got the phone today and have been playing around with it.
It's almost 3am here and I've got work tomorrow at 9 lol!
Sound impressions: extremely positive, it sounds great!
If I had to compare, I would say (and this is being EXTREMELY analytical of the sound, A/Bing and trying to listen out to certain parts of songs - difference isn't that obvious):
-S3 has a more meatier sound, little more bass emphasis
-S3 and Find 7 have the same output volume (or very close to it)
-Oppo Find 7 is more mid centric
-S3's soundstage is slightly wider/deeper
-Highs seem very similar
Notes:
-Tests conducted un-amped with my heavily modded D2Ks
-This was tested with the S3 using DeltaROM that has Boeflla kernel, but I made sure to disable Boeffla sound in the configurator, before stating the above results. (With Boeflla enabled, the S3 wins in every way, hands down)
-Oppo Find 7 is running stock ROM Colour OS 1.2.6i.
-Both are running Poweramp (unlocked) with flat EQs
-Both phones are on Android 4.3
End of the day, there's an extremely slight difference between the two. It isn't something like the S2's (yes numero dos) horrible chipset (as far as I'm, aware subjectively speaking), but nor is it better sounding than the S3 nor the beast the S1.
It lies between the S2 and S3's sound. Great but not as good I guess.
I listen to music a heck of a lot on my phone and I think I'll cope with with this initial listen - in other words, it's not something that will make me put it down, it's something I'll stick to and happily listen to
On a separate note: the Oppo Find 7 is an amazing phone, blistering fast, charging was ridiculously good, the camera is decent (especially the front facing one) and the Colour OS skin is the best Android skin I've ever come across (ie HTC's Sense and Samsung's TW).
However, I'm a little disappointed by its overall brightness levels , lack of pull-down notification customisation and little washed out colours.
other than those three points (which can all potentially be sorted out via a custom rom), the phone is so far flawless
TotallydubbedHD said:
Hey there!
Here's my impressions - I just got the phone today and have been playing around with it.
It's almost 3am here and I've got work tomorrow at 9 lol!
Sound impressions: extremely positive, it sounds great!
If I had to compare, I would say (and this is being EXTREMELY analytical of the sound, A/Bing and trying to listen out to certain parts of songs - difference isn't that obvious):
-S3 has a more meatier sound, little more bass emphasis
-S3 and Find 7 have the same output volume (or very close to it)
-Oppo Find 7 is more mid centric
-S3's soundstage is slightly wider/deeper
-Highs seem very similar
Notes:
-Tests conducted un-amped with my heavily modded D2Ks
-This was tested with the S3 using DeltaROM that has Boeflla kernel, but I made sure to disable Boeffla sound in the configurator, before stating the above results. (With Boeflla enabled, the S3 wins in every way, hands down)
-Oppo Find 7 is running stock ROM Colour OS 1.2.6i.
-Both are running Poweramp (unlocked) with flat EQs
-Both phones are on Android 4.3
End of the day, there's an extremely slight difference between the two. It isn't something like the S2's (yes numero dos) horrible chipset (as far as I'm, aware subjectively speaking), but nor is it better sounding than the S3 nor the beast the S1.
It lies between the S2 and S3's sound. Great but not as good I guess.
I listen to music a heck of a lot on my phone and I think I'll cope with with this initial listen - in other words, it's not something that will make me put it down, it's something I'll stick to and happily listen to
On a separate note: the Oppo Find 7 is an amazing phone, blistering fast, charging was ridiculously good, the camera is decent (especially the front facing one) and the Colour OS skin is the best Android skin I've ever come across (ie HTC's Sense and Samsung's TW). the Find 7
However, I'm a little disappointed by its overall brightness levels , lack of pull-down notification customisation and little washed out colours.
other than those three points (which can all potentially be sorted out via a custom rom), the phone is so far flawless
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Thank you again...
I will give the chinese a go ....just ordered the find 7 ...
I am keeping my GNote 2 ( with Wolfson / Voodoo) just in case..
Will post here my findings too ...
Cheers
betoNL said:
Thank you again...
I will give the chinese a go ....just ordered the find 7 ...
I am keeping my GNote 2 ( with Wolfson / Voodoo) just in case..
Will post here my findings too ...
Cheers
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Cool beans!
Please let me know how your screen looks - I've been worried about mine being faulty:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...on-screen-brightness-issue.19138/#post-275288
TotallydubbedHD said:
Cool beans!
Please let me know how your screen looks - I've been worried about mine being faulty:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...on-screen-brightness-issue.19138/#post-275288
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No problem.
I am new at the Find 7 forums ( here and there) and I didint even get my Find 7 yet, but if I were you I would not compare the screen with a sAmoled device...and... just flash a CM or AOSP rom to check if the issue is softwarewise
If it's not the hardware, I guess a firmware upgrade will do ( if you want to stick with stock)
betoNL said:
No problem.
I am new at the Find 7 forums ( here and there) and I didint even get my Find 7 yet, but if I were you I would not compare the screen with a sAmoled device...and... just flash a CM or AOSP rom to check if the issue is softwarewise
If it's not the hardware, I guess a firmware upgrade will do ( if you want to stick with stock)
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indeed - I'll be flashing nameless tonight
TotallydubbedHD said:
indeed - I'll be flashing nameless tonight
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Dont forget to report back
Since it's a bit off-topic ( no big deal ) you could start a dedicated thread here at the XDA
My Find 7 is probably arriving tomorrow...
I hope it's from a new batch, even if it's coming from England and not China ....:fingers-crossed:
betoNL said:
Dont forget to report back
Since it's a bit off-topic ( no big deal ) you could start a dedicated thread here at the XDA
My Find 7 is probably arriving tomorrow...
I hope it's from a new batch, even if it's coming from England and not China ....:fingers-crossed:
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flashed nameless - seems like the same thing in terms of brightness - I'm just wondering if it's a device/glass thing, rather than anything else....I'#ms tarting to doubt myself.
But each time I see comparisons on YouTube, the S5 and Oppo look identical in brightness
Btw: Nameless is RIDICULOUSLY fast !

[Q] Power supply to Headphones

hey guys! just a month ago i bought sony mdr-xb450 Xtra bass headphones...and i own an android one... i used my headphones in iphone5 and was shocked to see a better performance and bass on them. i read somewhere that iphone provide more power supply to headphones than androids. so if it is the thing...is there any way i can provide more power supply to my headphones through my android one to get a better performance and quality of my headphones? i know developers and hackers will surely have something for it...after all its android..it can do anything ��
Help is right here!
techyrohit1 said:
hey guys! just a month ago i bought sony mdr-xb450 Xtra bass headphones...and i own an android one... i used my headphones in iphone5 and was shocked to see a better performance and bass on them. i read somewhere that iphone provide more power supply to headphones than androids. so if it is the thing...is there any way i can provide more power supply to my headphones through my android one to get a better performance and quality of my headphones? i know developers and hackers will surely have something for it...after all its android..it can do anything ��
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Be sure you are on latest version of android that is 5.1 then root your phone and install Viper4android app/equilizer then install busybox . Grant root acces and install drivers from Viper4ANdroid and enjoy.
Viper4Android :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
Root :- XDA
Bro i used ..but m not getting that bass i got in iphone5 ....that bass vibration....u knw what kind of power music m talking about...tell me something elsse.. :/

Sound quality / chip

Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english
My OnePlus 3 arrived today and I think the quality with headphones is good. Can't hear any difference between my old Nexus 5 and the OP3 both sound good
I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones
nexus 5 has terrible speaker
knince said:
nexus 5 has terrible speaker
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They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT
ralph78 said:
They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT
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got it lol
ichlernungern said:
Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english
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I believe the audio solution is the same as for all SD820 processors. Built-in 24bit 96khz support. Nothing out of the ordinary and not high-end but good enough for Spotify Premium and stored Flacs etc.
For Premium Audio you are better off adding an outboard DAC such as from Audioquest (Dragonfly) or Meridian Explorer. Built-in ad-hoc sound processors are almost always a compromise.
A few manufacturer, LG and HTC spring to mind, have better, separate built in DAC's and amplifiers which may suit you better if you don't want to shell out for separate ones.
Having said all this, I use an S7Edge (Exynos version) which, like the Snapdragon uses propriatory decoding and I am happy with it for music on the move. (I also use a full Cyrus home system and Grado Headphones for indoor listening to give some perspective).
The headphone quality w/ Bose QC25 is good and a LOT better than the 6P (stock) in my opinion. It still doesn't beat the iPhone 6s+ in loudness and overall sound quality using Spotify or Apple Music. For most people it's good enough and for others Viper should help a ton but for audiophiles and stock out of the box, it's not going to cut it.
latech4832 said:
I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones
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How? at amazon? bcoz they don't support return for mobile phones in India
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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My dad has a 6S Plus and every android device (flagships only) I used had much much better quality with V4A installed. Not sure about OP3 though. Yet to test properly.
micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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I read that in order to install Viper one has to:
"Setup your Device
For Samsung devices,
1. Try install V4A as user app instead of system app if the latter failed doesn’t work.
2. Use Normal Mode and select V4A FX in Settings>Sound>Music Effects.
3. If don’t work, use another player rather than Samsung stock Music player.
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1. ROOT your device.
2. Install busybox if doesn’t come with root.
3. Modify build.prop (Thanks [email protected])
a. Open up /system/build.prop in text editor using any file explorer with root access.
b. Change the line (If you can’t find these lines, skip this step.)
– “Ipa.decode=true” to “lpa.decode=false”
– “tunnel.decode=true” to “tunnel.decode=false”
– “lpa.use-stagefright=true” to “lpa.use-stagefright=false”"
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks
Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it
I'm getting really good and rich sound when I use my Sony headphones and when I hook it up to my car stereo it has better sound than my iPhone really impressed with the sound...
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vdundgren said:
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks
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Viper is by far ur best bet. Using it myself and it improved the sound a lot. Everything else would just be an equalizer since ab adequate driver can't be installed without root.
gusano38 said:
Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it
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it does indeed! Only way right now I can stand the poor audio quality... Hopefully V4A will work soon on OP3...
I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg
hasenbein1966 said:
I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg
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Agree, limitations are hardware based and no player will improve that. For audiophiles ... use an outboard dac/headphone amplifier.

dual speakers mod question

Hey just want to ask this question, coming from the note 7 we had the dual speaker mod which utilized both the bottom and top speakers. I have never seen this done on another phone before and was wondering has anyone seen this mod on any other device?. Is it a simple mod that can be done to any phone..?
quangtungnguyen said:
Hey just want to ask this question, coming from the note 7 we had the dual speaker mod which utilized both the bottom and top speakers. I have never seen this done on another phone before and was wondering has anyone seen this mod on any other device?. Is it a simple mod that can be done to any phone..?
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The Nexus 5X had this mod, it has a bottom firing speaker but they got the top(call speaker) speaker to also work. There was a low audio mod which was supposed to be more safe, and a loud mod if you didn't care if it degraded the speakers life.
I was hoping this would come out since the HTC ten has this and this phone is manufactured by HTC. Plus I have my iPhone 7 which I hate to watch video on by the audio is much better
Is this mode included in some custom ROM. Or will it work only on 7.1 or too on 7.1.2?

Lenovo Z2 Plus low speaker and earphone volume

Recently bought a new Z2 Plus. Updated from 2.0.093 to 2.0.133 to 2.5.104
No difference observed in volume levels.
Overall I am quite disappointed with the volume levels both in speaker and earphones. Very low compared to other mobiles. My Moto G 1st gen is approx 40% louder.
Even at the highest volume levels it is just OK and the lower volume levels are so insignificant that you can hardly hear anything.
Little bit of research showed that Indian roms have low volume. Saw some threads on zuk EU forum and also one patch was released to boost volume levels which never came to India. See this:
www.phonearena.com/news/ZUK-Z2-receives-a-small-update-that-improves-camera-volume-levels_id86995
Just a bit concerned if this issue is with my device only or it is a general problem of Z2 Plus?
Also, I eventually will go the custom ROM way after few more days of usage on stock ROM. Does the custom roms boost volume levels or is it same or even worse?
Not interested for the audio mod which makes the earpiece work as secondary speaker.
Plz suggest
Yes ... Custom roms perform well in almost every aspect than the stock... Zui 2.5.104 ( indian version ) is buggy that why you might be experiencing the problem... Change to a custom rom like crdroid ( recommended ) or aex ... You will experience good sound quality and there is a dolby atmos mod available... U can flash too if u want
use dolby atmos in custom rom, much better.
Yeah. The stock rom is really bad in terms of some needed features. GSMArena page has mentioned this phone supports 24bit/98khz audio but doesn't feel like it. I bought this phone for Snapdragon 820 but now I regret it because it lags & heats up like some low end old phone. Also audio is one of my priority & it sucks on stock.
As suggested by fellow members, flash custom rom with dolby atmos. My personal experience, audio is way better on AEX stock than ZUI. I didn't install any mods though.
Try for yourself what audio setup you like.
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Yeah. The stock rom is really bad in terms of some needed features. GSMArena page has mentioned this phone supports 24bit/98khz audio but doesn't feel like it. I bought this phone for Snapdragon 820 but now I regret it because it lags & heats up like some low end old phone. Also audio is one of my priority & it sucks on stock.
As suggested by fellow members, flash custom rom with dolby atmos. My personal experience, audio is way better on AEX stock than ZUI. I didn't install any mods though.
Try for yourself what audio setup you like.
Dude just install AEX 4.6 with dolby atmos a7000 module from magisk. You will get the best and louder sounds than any other mobile.

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