Deep-sleep / doze standby or to disable network connection in pseudo standby - Shield Android TV General

I want to have the the shield offline when the tv is in standby. I can understand, that if user are using plex server or other 24/7 services the need the shield all the time online.
But there should be a setting to get the shield in a standby without activities and internet connection (LAN / WiFi must be off for security reason)
I know it is possible in Android TV OS. I am using a Sony Android TV. After pressing the power button the TV sreen turns off and the tv is for 5 minutes active. Then it turns into deep sleep and consumes 0.3W, the LAN / Wifi connection is turned off.
Maybe there are some settings that can be set to get a deep sleep in actual shield firmware, but till now i did not find them. Or at least it would be good to disable the network connection when the shield goes to its pseudo standby (green LED off).
I reported this issue to the support, but this answer: The system behaves as expected. I got a suggestion to power down the shield.
We are living in 2018, not in 1998. Its is very awkwardly to power down the Shield via Settings / Info for a save power down before unplugging the power supply. And then to plug to power supply before using the Shield.
There is a HDMI-CEC standard which can do that, same as my AVR do. The AVR powers up and down together with the TV. And in its standby the AVR has no internet connection.

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[Q] question about using tv out cable

Hi does anybody know how to use the tv out cable with screen turned off?
Because when i watch videos i don't need the screen on my device only the screen on my tv but when i press the power button so the screen will shut off the connection with the tv goes down. Any ideas ?
It seems that when the screen is off, you loose the TV out. (I tried just turning off the screen without sleeping the device). The only suggestion I can think of is finding a way of turning off (or down) the backlight - this will save just as much power as turning off display.

When does the fire TV turn off?

It says in 30 min but while I was downloading some games it just stayed on is that right.
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darchur said:
It says in 30 min but while I was downloading some games it just stayed on is that right.
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You can set the screen saver time in settings I have mine at 15 minutes. But after 30 minutes of inactivity it will shutdown. it's really just a deeper sleep then a full power off.
I set my screen saver to 15 minutes (or whatever the lowest is) and then it turns off 30 minutes after screen saver pops up.
It wont turn off if you are in a sideloaded app though like cable tv or xbmc so I always make sure to just hit the home button when I am done using it so it turns off.
Does it turn of if your downloading an app.
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nba1341 said:
I set my screen saver to 15 minutes (or whatever the lowest is) and then it turns off 30 minutes after screen saver pops up.
It wont turn off if you are in a sideloaded app though like cable tv or xbmc so I always make sure to just hit the home button when I am done using it so it turns off.
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This is bad news for me, I want to buy fire TV mostly for XBMC, I use it at night and will just have some TV shows play, I set a sleep timer on my TV to shut off automatically, the Original XBOX i'm currently using has option to shut down after x amount of idle time inside XBMC. Does anyone know of a way to make XBMC app close after certain time frame has passed? I wouldnt want the fire TV to be on/not sleeping ever 24/7
Have you experienced with sleep option on xbmc I have not tried it yet with the Fire TV. Not sure if it just exits xbmc when it reaches 0?
Another option would be to see if SleepTimer can be sideloaded on Fire TV. Not sure if this would work on the Fire TV but you could set to exit your "music" app after a certain amount of time and just set XBMC as the music app.
I'm having an issue that I haven't sorted out yet where it won't seem to sleep even on the default home screen when I have my USB XBox 360 controller plugged in. This happened before I sideloaded antyhing too, and I thought it might be of some help if there was any USB device that may be preventing sleep for someone here too.
would it be possible to do a real shutdown with root?
Pressing Fn+Esc on my Logitech K400 puts it to sleep immediately.
lolwatpear said:
would it be possible to do a real shutdown with root?
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I've been able to do a reboot over adb but I'm not sure if there is a shutdown command. With root I'd assume we'll be able to shutdown pretty easily.
sadboyzz said:
Pressing Fn+Esc on my Logitech K400 puts it to sleep immediately.
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That's awesome news! I'll try it on my wireless keyboard too and report back (if I remember to )
not sure if everyone knows but, holding Play/Pause and middle select button for 5 seconds, turns it off.
YoColdRain said:
not sure if everyone knows but, holding Play/Pause and middle select button for 5 seconds, turns it off.
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You sure? Mine just restarts.
I don't think it ever turns off completely. The light will go out, but if it was 100% off you would have to unplug it and plug it back in to get the control to work. There is no off switch.
Mine restarts as well. Only way I have found to turn it off is to unplug it.
Mine turn off with the combo yocoldrain mentioned, it shows a message of turning off. Thanks
2fastkuztoms said:
Mine turn off with the combo yocoldrain mentioned, it shows a message of turning off. Thanks
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What software version do you have.... as version 51.1.0.1 say shuting down but then actually reboots.
Don't be concerned with the fire TV staying on when not in use, your tv uses more in standby power mode than the fire tv uses in full power mode.
The box is made very well, all that weight comes from cast aluminum, the whole case is one big heat sink.
before and after new firmware, box still turns off on my side. well it says powering off, then amazon logo comes on as in its restarting or something, but actually turns off.
Hours later, I can still see it polling for the remote's battery state. It never really turns off. That's probably for the best, user experience wise. You wouldn't want to click the remote and have absolutely nothing happen.
Skater4599 said:
This is bad news for me, I want to buy fire TV mostly for XBMC, I use it at night and will just have some TV shows play, I set a sleep timer on my TV to shut off automatically, the Original XBOX i'm currently using has option to shut down after x amount of idle time inside XBMC. Does anyone know of a way to make XBMC app close after certain time frame has passed? I wouldnt want the fire TV to be on/not sleeping ever 24/7
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yes, get elmerohueso screensaver, he nicely enough updated it so even if you left xbmc paused, it will stop the video, and initiate suspend. my firetv is always sleeping now

Safe way to shutdown/power down Fire TV?

I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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billsam38 said:
I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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It should be safe to just unplug, but if you use it often eventually it could cause a problem either in the firmware or the the connection itself. A simple solution would be something like a Woods wireless remote outlet. The one I have comes with 3 plugs and a remote with a switch for each. The plug can take a bit of room on the surge protector but so does the FTV power cord. I just press and hold the select and play buttons on the FTV remote for about 5 seconds and when the screen goes black I hit the power button for the outlet.
billsam38 said:
I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
mattngsx said:
Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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As i've stated in another thread, "sleep" on this is pretty much the same as sleep on a regular android device. It's still fully awake, although the CPU might be downclocked a little.
As for home, you need F12 to get home.
rbox said:
As i've stated in another thread, "sleep" on this is pretty much the same as sleep on a regular android device. It's still fully awake, although the CPU might be downclocked a little.
As for home, you need F12 to get home.
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I love low watt setups, so I know the mind set for the OP. It would have been nice to be able power off the device! I was told that lab126 felt the footprint was small enough in standby that it wasn't needed. They also wanted to be able to update when not in use, etc...
You could hook it up the ftv to a power strip. I've seen power strips that have one active outlet and shuts off the rest of the outlets when the primary device is not used. That could be another option?
Rbox- Do you know where the MCE remote values are stored in the FIreTV. I want to see if I can modify so the windows button is f12.
mattngsx said:
Rbox- Do you know where the MCE remote values are stored in the FIreTV. I want to see if I can modify so the windows button is f12.
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Since it shows up as a regular HID keyboard I don't think it has a keylayout file. What I do know, is that the kernel could probably do it. The HID layer has a quirks system that allows you do to funky stuff for individual HID devices. Do you know the usb vendor and device id for the remote? I can take a look at the quirks stuff tonight and see if we can do anything. It might have to wait until custom kernels can be loaded though.
rbox said:
Since it shows up as a regular HID keyboard I don't think it has a keylayout file. What I do know, is that the kernel could probably do it. The HID layer has a quirks system that allows you do to funky stuff for individual HID devices. Do you know the usb vendor and device id for the remote? I can take a look at the quirks stuff tonight and see if we can do anything. It might have to wait until custom kernels can be loaded though.
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I'm at work but I can pull the HID/Device info when i get home tonight. I will PM you the info, so we're not clogging the OP's thread.
It takes 3 to 4 watts to stream a movie - measured on a Kill a Watt meter. I forgot what the reading was on sleep mode but its not much. The max watts I've seen was 5 watts and that's while installing an app.
mattngsx said:
Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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Which MCE remote do you use? I have one from philips but it doesnt work with my ftv.
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KillerJoeBR said:
Which MCE remote do you use? I have one from philips but it doesnt work with my ftv.
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What gen is it? I heard old mce receivers don't work? My USB receiver is a Phillips/nxp. It came with my zotac mini pc.
I just got my fire TV, rooted and installed a few apps including the firedtv.
I left it over night and realized it never went into sleep (the front led was on). I was able to put into sleep using a keyboard, but I don't want to keep the keyboard near my fire tv all the time.
Do you guys know what is wrong?
minmao said:
I just got my fire TV, rooted and installed a few apps including the firedtv.
I left it over night and realized it never went into sleep (the front led was on). I was able to put into sleep using a keyboard, but I don't want to keep the keyboard near my fire tv all the time.
Do you guys know what is wrong?
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Try rebooting your box and without loading any external apps, see if it goes to sleep after a certain time. My guest is that an app is still running in the background preventing sleep mode.
When I first installed XBMC that happened too. I found out that XBMC was still running in the background because I didn't properly exit the app. Clicking the home button on the remote just leaves XBMC running in the background. Exit by pressing XBMC power off button and setting the system power saving timer to shut down at a interval during idle works.
ETFoneHome said:
Try rebooting your box and without loading any external apps, see if it goes to sleep after a certain time. My guest is that an app is still running in the background preventing sleep mode.
When I first installed XBMC that happened too. I found out that XBMC was still running in the background because I didn't properly exit the app. Clicking the home button on the remote just leaves XBMC running in the background. Exit by pressing XBMC power off button and setting the system power saving timer to shut down at a interval during idle works.
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You can also set the power off setting in xbmc to exit after some idle time value.
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Shinyhead said:
You can also set the power off setting in xbmc to exit after some idle time value.
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Yea, that's what I said. It's set to 30mins. Works fine.

How to power off Fire TV?

I always turn off power to all devices including the TV after using but on the Fire TV 2, the only option is to put it to sleep so I'm wondering is there a way to power it off completely or is it safe to put it to sleep and just unplug the power adapter?
Lither said:
I always turn off power to all devices including the TV after using but on the Fire TV 2, the only option is to put it to sleep so I'm wondering is there a way to power it off completely or is it safe to put it to sleep and just unplug the power adapter?
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The sleep mode seems to basically be a black screensaver. The only true on/off is power/no power. And other whe flashing or saving something. There is no bad time to unpowering it.
Its an Android device. They sleep.
I always pull the plug.
Lither said:
I always turn off power to all devices including the TV after using but on the Fire TV 2, the only option is to put it to sleep so I'm wondering is there a way to power it off completely or is it safe to put it to sleep and just unplug the power adapter?
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You can use TV usb port as fire tv's power source and when TV turned off, it's off too but it's going take time to boot when you turn on TV.

Nvidia Shield + Sonoff

I have my Nvidia Shield plugged into an old dumb TV with no CEC. Currently, to watch something I have to turn on the shield (i.e. press any button on the Shield remote) and also manually turn on the TV. The Shield is the only device connected to my TV, so I would like the TV to turn on automatically when the Shield turns on and off when the shield standbys. I assume this can be done using a smart plug like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sonoff-Ass...=1535040440&sr=8-1&keywords=sonoff+smart+plug
or similarly, a switch like this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SON...9ad2-4b29-b4ba-e032c30a1f8a&priceBeautifyAB=0
I either need the Shield to tell the Sonoff to turn on when the Shield does (and off when the Shield standbys), or something else to monitor the status of the Shield, and turn on and off the Sonoff as required. Does anyone know the best way to do this?
You can use a sonoff SV. It uses low voltage 5-24v to trigger the relay. Connect that to a usb on your shield and it should power on your tv when the shield turns on

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