New to Pixel 2. Questions re Root/Magisk - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Hey folks. Had the Pixel XL and was running Magisk, but wanted to get peoples impressions of root vs magisk on the Pixel 2.
Primary things I want it for: Adblocking, Viper audio, debloating, I can't even remember what the hell else I do.. (have been on a Samsung S9 temporarily after smashing my XL, didnt want to root for resale purposes)
Also, I know Pie just dropped, and the development here seems fairly active, so what is an estimated timeframe for 9.0 roms to drop? Not looking for ETA, so much as a general (1 month, 2 month, 3 years). On a similar note, is it possible to root/magisk the stock 9.0 rom? I see custom kernels, so methinks it is, but I want to be sure before I take the dive..
And finally, aside from warranty issues (which I don't qualify for anyways as my P2XL is second hand, and no invoice...stupid Australia), why WOULDNT I want to root?
Thanks

jewnersey said:
Hey folks. Had the Pixel XL and was running Magisk, but wanted to get peoples impressions of root vs magisk on the Pixel 2.
Primary things I want it for: Adblocking, Viper audio, debloating, I can't even remember what the hell else I do.. (have been on a Samsung S9 temporarily after smashing my XL, didnt want to root for resale purposes)
Also, I know Pie just dropped, and the development here seems fairly active, so what is an estimated timeframe for 9.0 roms to drop? Not looking for ETA, so much as a general (1 month, 2 month, 3 years). On a similar note, is it possible to root/magisk the stock 9.0 rom? I see custom kernels, so methinks it is, but I want to be sure before I take the dive..
And finally, aside from warranty issues (which I don't qualify for anyways as my P2XL is second hand, and no invoice...stupid Australia), why WOULDNT I want to root?
Thanks
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No reason to not to root lol
Custom roms will come but slow
You can root pie as well with no problems
Cheers ?
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs

I'm debating on taking the root plunge as well on my 2XL. Cannot decide either way. Not super familiar with ADB, but can read directions. Bricked my G2 back years ago, and had to reflash and such back to stock..Scary, but eventually got it to work.

AwkwardUberHero said:
I'm debating on taking the root plunge as well on my 2XL. Cannot decide either way. Not super familiar with ADB, but can read directions. Bricked my G2 back years ago, and had to reflash and such back to stock..Scary, but eventually got it to work.
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Use this unofficial version of Magisk (1674) as opposed to the official (1671). https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77240449&postcount=2832
Why? Some users are experiencing boot issues with the official. This fixes it

Thanks for that. I am going to bite the bullet and do it today.

AwkwardUberHero said:
I'm debating on taking the root plunge as well on my 2XL. Cannot decide either way. Not super familiar with ADB, but can read directions. Bricked my G2 back years ago, and had to reflash and such back to stock..Scary, but eventually got it to work.
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Just did mine (took 5 minutes). I am pretty comfortable with this stuff so let me know if you need any help.

jewnersey said:
Just did mine (took 5 minutes). I am pretty comfortable with this stuff so let me know if you need any help.
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Did you just follow the steps one by one and it worked? I'll be doing this on Mac. Could install a VM with Windows if it makes it any easier.

I'm on windows, but you should be fine on Mac after installing ADB. Mac instruction for doing that are in the first post.
After that just follow directions to unlock and then install TWRP (my preference) .
Save everything important to your PC because it will get wiped.

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I am thinking in either selling this or just update to official

I haven't been able to fully take advantage of my rooted phone and I get tired of re reading and trying to use other roms and doing back up and always finding myself clueless and returning here to ask you guys what where the steps by steps guide.
I can't get another phone yet because I have a contract with AT&T and it will take a few more months.
I am using SlimBean rom probably a very old version and I haven't update it yet and well I get many bugs and other issues such as my pho0ne restarting when playing videos on full screen.
Sometimes I feel desperate and just want to restart from scratch and unroot the phone by installing the latest update of the official phone.
So, the phone is practically unscratched and well taken cared if any of you are interested.
Suggestions are welcome.
Asking price? Age of phone?
audit13 said:
Asking price? Age of phone?
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Make your offer.
Age would be... around 2 years or so...
Harkadenn said:
Make your offer.
Age would be... around 2 years or so...
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I would except I am in Canada and you're probably in the USA.
Harkadenn said:
I haven't been able to fully take advantage of my rooted phone and I get tired of re reading and trying to use other roms and doing back up and always finding myself clueless and returning here to ask you guys what where the steps by steps guide.
I can't get another phone yet because I have a contract with AT&T and it will take a few more months.
I am using SlimBean rom probably a very old version and I haven't update it yet and well I get many bugs and other issues such as my pho0ne restarting when playing videos on full screen.
Sometimes I feel desperate and just want to restart from scratch and unroot the phone by installing the latest update of the official phone.
So, the phone is practically unscratched and well taken cared if any of you are interested.
Suggestions are welcome.
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Have you tried going to Swappa.com? You'd probably get a better selling price there than on places like that online auction site. Plus you don't pay any fees and it's the XDA recommended option for buying and selling phones.
Seriously though, you may want to revert to a full stock ROM to fix the performance issues. Reverting to a stock ROM would often let you know if any performance issues are firmware or hardware based as different custom ROMs often come with their peculiar issues.

[Q] Noob questions about rooting for this phone

1) Is this phone likely to get root soon after release? Just based on LG history or whatever is known about the phone so far.
2) Does being on Verizon usually mean waiting longer or not getting root access at all? If Verizon-rooted phones are rare, please let me know some good alternatives.
Thanks all for putting up with me.
89titanium said:
1) Is this phone likely to get root soon after release? Just based on LG history or whatever is known about the phone so far.
2) Does being on Verizon usually mean waiting longer or not getting root access at all? If Verizon-rooted phones are rare, please let me know some good alternatives.
Thanks all for putting up with me.
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Im sure there will be root. but it will take a while, and i dont see anybody posting on the dev section talking about root. so probobly in afew months, once they read the source of the OS, and figure out how to make root.
Im from big red, and they always lock there bootloaders. so thats alittle more work and codeing which turns into abit more waiting time if you want custom roms. but G4 seems like a pretty popular phone, so im sure root will come eventually
89titanium said:
1) Is this phone likely to get root soon after release? Just based on LG history or whatever is known about the phone so far.
2) Does being on Verizon usually mean waiting longer or not getting root access at all? If Verizon-rooted phones are rare, please let me know some good alternatives.
Thanks all for putting up with me.
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This phone hasn't been fully released yet. It will def get root. I'd give it a month or so.
I have Verizon and the G3 was unlocked within 3 months. I'm hoping since this is Qualcomm's first hexa-core, there'll be some exploits to gain root/unlock BL faster. Take it from a Sammy guy, WAIT THE FEW MONTHS. Samsung hasn't seen an unlocked BL for Verizon in 2 years.
Sent from my S5 using your mom
yep, probably gonna pull the trigger on the att g4 with their nasty corporate locked BL crap. I'd normally be concerned about root, but in this case I'm not terribly worried, because this phone will have SO much attention in the dev community. now, getting the att BL unlocked to run twrp... that's another story and could be a very long time if at all (just for the att version).

Zenfone 3 deluxe Custom rom + Encryption?

Hi, I was thinking of getting this phone but it seems rather empty in these parts!
Are there/Will there be soon, any Custom rom + working encryption?
If not I think I will go with oneplus 3T, thanks.
Jonog said:
Hi, I was thinking of getting this phone but it seems rather empty in these parts!
Are there/Will there be soon, any Custom rom + working encryption?
If not I think I will go with oneplus 3T, thanks.
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What do you mean by "working encryption"?
Encryption is enabled by default in MM roms.
adwinp said:
What do you mean by "working encryption"?
Encryption is enabled by default in MM roms.
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Thank you. Last time I was installing custom roms CM12 etc, sometimes on certain phones encryption would not work.
I wasn't aware it is now enable by default.
Bootloader unlock only just came out less than a week ago. Root has been available for a few days. There should eventually be ROMs but there is basically nothing for the time being. If you are willing to wait a month or two or three for a good ROM, consider this phone.
I'd honestly recommend the 1+3T though. The dev community is much more existent.
jsheradin said:
Bootloader unlock only just came out less than a week ago. Root has been available for a few days. There should eventually be ROMs but there is basically nothing for the time being. If you are willing to wait a month or two or three for a good ROM, consider this phone.
I'd honestly recommend the 1+3T though. The dev community is much more existent.
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Thank you. Settled on the 1+3T
zs550kl unlocked no problem but cant root
my zs550kl is two days new, I am upgraded to android 7.0 nougat it automaticly updated as soon as i got threw initial set up. so my problem is that it was no problem at all unlocking it useing the unlock tool from thread xda-developers Asus ZenFone 3 Deluxe Asus ZenFone 3 Deluxe ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Development [DEV][ZS550KL][ZS570KL][ZS570KLPRO] Bootloader Unlock, Root & Busybox by adwinp First shot no problem unlocked my problem comes from the bootroot.img i think because i am 7.0 all ready. so is there a boot.img available for android 7.0? and if not can i downgrade back to the firmware specified in that post? any help would be awesome i suck at this stuff but i just cant help myself and i cant stand all the bloatware and asus is the worst one ive come across so far, such a nice device completely bogged down by a crappy UI.
jsheradin said:
Bootloader unlock only just came out less than a week ago. Root has been available for a few days. There should eventually be ROMs but there is basically nothing for the time being. If you are willing to wait a month or two or three for a good ROM, consider this phone.
I'd honestly recommend the 1+3T though. The dev community is much more existent.
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Jonog said:
Thank you. Settled on the 1+3T
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This was a colossal failure on Asus' end, in my opinion. I'm glad those who have the ZF3 5.7" finally got their unlocker. I really had high hopes for this phone. After holding onto it as long as I could (in the box it shipped in) with Amazon's extended holiday return period & crossing my fingers for unlocking...I had to go with the 3T. I really wanted to go with the Zenfone 3 but Asus didn't even suggest an unlocked bootloader was coming, as far as I am aware, until very recently. That was after missing out on 2 rounds of in-stock 3T's due to overly sensitive fraud detection on both OnePlus and my bank's end. Finally ended up getting a 3T 128GB model, even though I bought a 128GB microSD card and nice USB-C cable for the Zenfone 3.
Asus really said something about their support/concern in regards to their mobile phone product line(s) with this - OnePlus Support has already given me trouble, no less. I kinda like Asus, too.
I finally have a phone after nearly 6 months of borrowing -- hijacking my mom's OP 2.

Playing the Slots: Firmware Slots on the Pixel XL

So, my Google Edition Pixel XL arrives tomorrow, and I've been digging around in preparation (I've previously owned the OG Droid and Galaxy Nexus, so consider myself marginally competent as a consumer of non-OEM firmware). Anyway, I'm super intrigued by the firmware slots I've heard mentioned, but was hoping for some clarification on how they work.
-Do they run from the same Data partition, so you can run one Kernal/ROM one day, and the other on another day, back and forth, forever...
-Or are they more like a nandroid backup?
Thanks for helping me understand this new feature,
Christian
Same data.
So remember what they were built for. They were built to run the same​ OS and provide seamless updates. They were not built for dual boot.
You can do a little trickery. Like same Rom with one rooted and one not pretty easily. Beyond that it is very tricky, there are a couple of folks here that seem to habe a handle on it.
Hopefully they will be along shortly.
The slots on the Pixel XL seem to trip up a lot of people who try to install TWRP, a custom Rom or root the phone. The really frustrating thing is that I did my research too and came across completely contradictory information regarding how they relate to custom flashing and should be handled. Even worse, the custom flashing guide on XDA for this phone is terrible. If you read through all the pages at various points it tells you to do something different than at the beginning of the thread and it doesn't deal with the dual slots at all. Google also seems to keep breaking root on the Pixel XL where SU programmers have to come up with updates and new flashing procedures to keep root working. The Pixel XL is the only phone I have ever owned that I am afraid to flash on, but if you are braver than me then I certainly wish you luck.

Is there an actual need to root?

I've recently rooted my phone and now I am questioning why I did it. The first phone I rooted was my Nexus One and I've been a member of this site since the release of the Galaxy S2 so I am no novice. It used to be a necessity to root for the increased control it gave, but now all I seem to be doing is finding solutions to get back functionality that I've lost through tripping Knox. Please, can anyone give me a reason or list the advantages of rooting the current generation of phones because I'm struggling to justify keeping the bootloader unlocked and not going back to stock?
No. I wouldn't... for you though the cat's already out of the bag.
If running on Pie I definitely wouldn't update to 10 or worse 11.
mckeowngoo said:
I've recently rooted my phone and now I am questioning why I did it. The first phone I rooted was my Nexus One and I've been a member of this site since the release of the Galaxy S2 so I am no novice. It used to be a necessity to root for the increased control it gave, but now all I seem to be doing is finding solutions to get back functionality that I've lost through tripping Knox. Please, can anyone give me a reason or list the advantages of rooting the current generation of phones because I'm struggling to justify keeping the bootloader unlocked and not going back to stock?
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Like you, I've been rooting since my HTC-Hero way back in the early days of Android. It was necessary for better kernels, better battery life, better RAM and CPU management, better file systems (Early days of ARM and EXT4) and of course those cool themes and apps that only work with Root (Titanium Backup, Gosh I miss you!!). Not to mention what was my favorite, MIUI!
The last phone I rooted was the Nexus 6. It was a powerhouse! I still have it in a drawer full of old devices in my desk and miss it! Someone once told me when checking out my N6, "Your phone is like a muscle car!"
I miss rooting and I hate that carriers have locked the Bootloaders down. Android was founded on and was expanded by the Amateur Development community. Look up Cyanogen for details!.
I just bought my daughter this device outright - first, one I've ever bought that wasn't through my carrier and I'll be doing the same with the Pixel 6 for myself later this year which means I can finally go back to rooting and hopefully back to what earned me the RC title, but I also wonder, do I really NEED to root these??
My daughter isn't a power user. She's probably happy with whatever native settings and Samsung themes she can find on her own. My Pixel 4 XL has been great as is. so I applaud your question because I also wonder if rooting is still necessary or is it just a way to feel rebellious and outside the fray?
I also own a Pixel 4, bought to scratch an itch when I wanted to try out GrapheneOS.
I think I will go back to stock, which is sad as I enjoyed the process of modifying the phones software. If there was a net gain or increased functionality to keep the phone rooted, I would but unfortunately there isn't a compelling reason to keep the bootloader unlocked.
Am I wrong? Is the scene, at least for Samsung phones, dead and this forum obsolete?
Root is a must for me. Just being able to debloat. Either way I bought a unlock token
I understand the debloat of carriers useless apps, but since I found that ADB can basicly remove the programs I don't need root for that. But I still like root for change hosts files and such.

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