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guys, I've recently noticed that mail_service (from exchange)wakelock drains my battery pretty badly, I've reset the account a few days back and enjoyed quite a bit of good battery life (like 1-2 hrs for 1%, with 3G/data on and auto sync off) for two days,but today the bug came back. I wonder any of you experience this?
There has been reports of battery drain and the Android OS not going to deep sleep properly. However, there's to many factors to take into account.
Some claim that opening and closing the camera app has something to do with it. (CMOS sensor is kept open and active)
fregor said:
There has been reports of battery drain and the Android OS not going to deep sleep properly. However, there's to many factors to take into account.
Some claim that opening and closing the camera app has something to do with it. (CMOS sensor is kept open and active)
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my Android OS was at 30some%, the betterbatterystats showed mail_service contributed to over 50mins wakelocks while I set manual sync. I am afraid it's another bug that android has.
exchange sucks when it comes to battery life, but I think it's more a protocol thing than an app thing. I did battery tests ages ago on my nexus one, and found exchange sucked up more battery/h than gmail/gtalk/facebook/+++ (basically everything else + phone idle) did combined.
Note that if you dont have exchange on push sync some exchange servers will require a full refresh when you connect. So it'll suck up more battery to sync every hour than having push notifications on. (Although exchange push requires a continously connected encrypted session... which isn't great for battery life either).
nurre said:
exchange sucks when it comes to battery life, but I think it's more a protocol thing than an app thing. I did battery tests ages ago on my nexus one, and found exchange sucked up more battery/h than gmail/gtalk/facebook/+++ (basically everything else + phone idle) did combined.
Note that if you dont have exchange on push sync some exchange servers will require a full refresh when you connect. So it'll suck up more battery to sync every hour than having push notifications on. (Although exchange push requires a continously connected encrypted session... which isn't great for battery life either).
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I've been using exchange since I got my Desire and GS2, but neither one had problem with exchange draining battery (which I didn't find it from betterbatterystats), and even for Galaxy Nexus, this bug is on and off, I hope there's a solution for that
hongkongtom said:
I've been using exchange since I got my Desire and GS2, but neither one had problem with exchange draining battery (which I didn't find it from betterbatterystats), and even for Galaxy Nexus, this bug is on and off, I hope there's a solution for that
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It never showed up in the battery stats for anything. But if I disabled exchange and left it overnight I'd have WAY better battery/h than I did if I left it on.
nurre said:
It never showed up in the battery stats for anything. But if I disabled exchange and left it overnight I'd have WAY better battery/h than I did if I left it on.
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For disable do u mean freeze/ remove account/ stop auto sync?
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hongkongtom said:
For disable do u mean freeze/ remove account/ stop auto sync?
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I removed the account, just to be certain it wasn't doing anything. When I added the exchange account I noticed a quite bad drop in battery time, even though it never showed anywhere. So I tested it overnight tons of times with different settings. And the thing that helped me improve my battery time more than anything else was removing exchange.
nurre said:
I removed the account, just to be certain it wasn't doing anything. When I added the exchange account I noticed a quite bad drop in battery time, even though it never showed anywhere. So I tested it overnight tons of times with different settings. And the thing that helped me improve my battery time more than anything else was removing exchange.
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well, that sucks, i need my exchange to get through my job, when exchange is behaving well, i got quite good battery life with 1% drop with 1-2hrs with no tweak (stock 4.0.2), now when exchange bug kicks in 1% would drop in around 15min. i can believe Google can still let it happen when we are already in its 4.0
I had this problem using Enhanced Email, and was able to resolve it by disabling calendar sync for the exchange account. As I understand Enhanced Email to be pretty similar to the stock email application, perhaps you might give that a try and see if it improves the situation.
I suspect the battery usage and best settings depend heavily on exchange server types as well. So do your own testing on this
TheJ0hnman said:
I had this problem using Enhanced Email, and was able to resolve it by disabling calendar sync for the exchange account. As I understand Enhanced Email to be pretty similar to the stock email application, perhaps you might give that a try and see if it improves the situation.
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I've tried Enhanced Email and seems it doesn't support calendar sync fot 4.0 just yet. and i really do need calendar sync for my job.
actually, i also bought Touchdown, but too bad that it can't be integrated into phone's calendar, and the calendar viewing is suck for TD. (i really got spoiled by Calendar Pad / Jorte which can display individual events under month view.)
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I suspect the battery usage and best settings depend heavily on exchange server types as well. So do your own testing on this
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i think so too, but i think if i set manual sync the app shouldn't have that much of wake locks which keep my phone awake which drains battery.
I had my exchange account set to only sync email. I also set the check frequency to manual... the exchange service would still suck up a ton of battery. Every few hours I would receive a notification of new email for my exchange account. WTF? Why was it syncing in the background when I had sync set to manual..?
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NPuter said:
I had my exchange account set to only sync email. I also set the check frequency to manual... the exchange service would still suck up a ton of battery. Every few hours I would receive a notification of new email for my exchange account. WTF? Why was it syncing in the background when I had sync set to manual..?
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Are u using the stock app? I never have this problem you mentioned at the second part.
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I had that bug so I removed and re-added my work exchange account and the CPU usage went away after a couple hours of syncing.
Then I downloaded touchdown and haven't gone back to the stock android email client.
Erukian said:
I had that bug so I removed and re-added my work exchange account and the CPU usage went away after a couple hours of syncing.
Then I downloaded touchdown and haven't gone back to the stock android email client.
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Sorry I don't understand ur first part? So it had gone to normal after a few hours of syncing you mean?
Done more testing yesterday, after a 12hr working day (no emailing on phone but few calendars added/editted,all time 3G & data on ) , the exchange caused around 500 partial wakelocks (spent around 10min in total) reported by betterbatterystats, causing my phone to drop 1% in around 30min which I've undervolted using JameBond 1.2-307.
Yet, when I got home, I switched to my home Wi-Fi and found that the wakelocks were much less and my battery dropped 1% in around 1.5 to 2hr.
Don't know if the network status from 3G triggered the exchange to drain power from wakelocking.
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hongkongtom said:
Sorry I don't understand ur first part? So it had gone to normal after a few hours of syncing you mean?
Done more testing yesterday, after a 12hr working day (no emailing on phone but few calendars added/editted,all time 3G & data on ) , the exchange caused around 500 partial wakelocks (spent around 10min in total) reported by betterbatterystats, causing my phone to drop 1% in around 30min which I've undervolted using JameBond 1.2-307.
Yet, when I got home, I switched to my home Wi-Fi and found that the wakelocks were much less and my battery dropped 1% in around 1.5 to 2hr.
Don't know if the network status from 3G triggered the exchange to drain power from wakelocking.
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If your undervolted then your battery readout is incorrect anyway. Your battery meter isn't displaying actual battery capacity, it's estimating it based on a scale of power consumption @ X mhz of processor speed within an actual timeframe.
When you undervolt, there's no reference point. Your battery display is somewhat useless. It's why often times the last 10% @ idle seems to last forever.
I have high battery usage from Exchange. It's been a concern of mine for some time. Glad to see others noticing the same thing.
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I am connected to two different Exchange accounts, one 2007 server and one 2010 server. Both set to automatic push. Battery life has been excellent with this phone and getting better. Yesterday, with several phone calls, emails, etc. I clocked in at 1 day 7 hours before I hit the 14% warning threshold.
Hi All,
I have had this beautiful device Ascend P6 for more than a couple of months now. Used ROMs B107, B111, B118CN, B122 and currently on B125. I must say that this is a very good device and give me close to 12-14 hours of battery life with not so high usage.
I have configured 2 company emails using activesync on Exchange and have kept the refresh interval at 1 hour with 3 days of sync for both the emails. What bothers me is that when I check the battery usage the Exchange services takes up more than 50% of battery every time. If this can be reduced, I am sure that the battery would rock.
I have attached 4 screenshots with the battery usage config, details on exchange service and my sync settings on both the emails.
Can somebody let me know if anything can be done to make this better, or should I just stay with it.
The amount of transfered data is not really high but depending on the amount of contacts and calender entries it can take a long time to get it synchronized.
If you don't synch contacts and calendar every hour you will encounter more efficient battery drain.
Still the same
experto1 said:
The amount of transfered data is not really high but depending on the amount of contacts and calender entries it can take a long time to get it synchronized.
If you don't synch contacts and calendar every hour you will encounter more efficient battery drain.
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I did try this and it helped upto an extend so and my keep awake time for this service has reduced to half. Still the service is taking up almost 40% of battery and I think there should just be a better way of doing this.
clickabhee said:
I did try this and it helped upto an extend so and my keep awake time for this service has reduced to half. Still the service is taking up almost 40% of battery and I think there should just be a better way of doing this.
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Greenify.
Maybe you should try another app ?
I use touchdown for exchange email,versatile and customizable...much better than stock email
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clickabhee said:
Hi All,
I have had this beautiful device Ascend P6 for more than a couple of months now. Used ROMs B107, B111, B118CN, B122 and currently on B125. I must say that this is a very good device and give me close to 12-14 hours of battery life with not so high usage.
I have configured 2 company emails using activesync on Exchange and have kept the refresh interval at 1 hour with 3 days of sync for both the emails. What bothers me is that when I check the battery usage the Exchange services takes up more than 50% of battery every time. If this can be reduced, I am sure that the battery would rock.
I have attached 4 screenshots with the battery usage config, details on exchange service and my sync settings on both the emails.
Can somebody let me know if anything can be done to make this better, or should I just stay with it.
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I sync with my works exchange and have never had these issues (been on 3 different roms, currently on 122), I have it set to push, days to sync = all, sync email and calendar but not contacts. I only sync with one account though, maybe try removing one account and seeing if that helps, and then re-add and remove the other?
One issue I did have with the stock version was the lack of ability not to set a quiet time, ie weekends and at night, tried a few other apps but didn't like them as much. I just use the profiles at night to turn auto sync off, and at the weekend I just ignore the emails
I get about 2 days out my battery from full charge. I also have it syncing with hotmail, use bluetooth in the car for 2 hours a day, browsing the web etc. So i'd say i'm a mid level battery user.
The latest version of the email/exchange apps you get with the nexus 5 have been released, maybe try them? I installed them on my P6 fine, here they are here...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0dzc0jxylx9h77/com.google.android.exchange-6.0-893803.apk
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr55dvakxktkvtq/EmailGoogle.apk
twostroker said:
I use touchdown for exchange email,versatile and customizable...much better than stock email
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Let me try that... That is a paid app if I am not wrong
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markgranto said:
I sync with my works exchange and have never had these issues (been on 3 different roms, currently on 122), I have it set to push, days to sync = all, sync email and calendar but not contacts. I only sync with one account though, maybe try removing one account and seeing if that helps, and then re-add and remove the other?
One issue I did have with the stock version was the lack of ability not to set a quiet time, ie weekends and at night, tried a few other apps but didn't like them as much. I just use the profiles at night to turn auto sync off, and at the weekend I just ignore the emails
I get about 2 days out my battery from full charge. I also have it syncing with hotmail, use bluetooth in the car for 2 hours a day, browsing the web etc. So i'd say i'm a mid level battery user.
The latest version of the email/exchange apps you get with the nexus 5 have been released, maybe try them? I installed them on my P6 fine, here they are here...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0dzc0jxylx9h77/com.google.android.exchange-6.0-893803.apk
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr55dvakxktkvtq/EmailGoogle.apk
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Let me download them and install. Hopefully they will be better than the default mail app. Still not sure, if I should go with this or the Touchdown
clickabhee said:
Let me download them and install. Hopefully they will be better than the default mail app. Still not sure, if I should go with this or the Touchdown
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I found it used far much more battery and data than the default app. Loads of extra addons in it, but for me I just want to check emails, reply etc. Nothing fancy.
Similar issue with Moto G 1st Gen India
Hi,
I am using a moto g 1st generation. I have recently updated to lolipop. After upating to lolipop Microsoft Exchange Services eating 49% of my battery. My sync was off.
Hi all,
I have just got my 46mm galaxy watch but i am having trouble with the notification management on the watch.
It's most probably me not using it right as i am used to wear OS but I'm hoping you can help me out.
When i get an email for instance i open it on my galaxy watch... Press the 3 dots on the right hand side and press the bin icon... This clears the notification from my watch but if i open my phone and go into the email app the email is still sat there.
What i am wanting is to completely delete the email from the account when i delete it on my watch not just clear the notification.
Can anyone help me out please?
Thanks in advance.
This is the problem i mentioned in this topic: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ons--answers/email-app-missing-watch-t3865938
Only if you have Samsung Smartphone you can interactively work with mails. Note that you do not have mail app in the watch ( as I do not have )
You are just working with notifications form your mail app on the phone. You are only clearing notification- not the message.
Mayby someone make a full blown email app in the Galaxy Store - that is the only hope
Got it ?
P.S. I cannot understand stupidity of Samsung software team to make it this way
pabgar said:
This is the problem i mentioned in this topic: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ons--answers/email-app-missing-watch-t3865938
Only if you have Samsung Smartphone you can interactively work with mails. Note that you do not have mail app in the watch ( as I do not have )
You are just working with notifications form your mail app on the phone. You are only clearing notification- not the message.
Mayby someone make a full blown email app in the Galaxy Store - that is the only hope
Got it ?
P.S. I cannot understand stupidity of Samsung software team to make it this way
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I am using a Samsung Galaxy note 9. I have the the Samsung email app on the watch and i use that email app on the phone.
On wear OS if i press delete it actually deletes the email from the account but this isn't the case on the Samsung watch it will just remove the notification on the watch / phone but leave the email sat in the account which is a bit poor in my opinion compared to wear OS.
Hopefully someone knows a way to delete the email straight from the notification same as you would on the phone from the pull down notification tray without having to physically go into the email app to do it.
zolah said:
Hi all,
I have just got my 46mm galaxy watch but i am having trouble with the notification management on the watch.
It's most probably me not using it right as i am used to wear OS but I'm hoping you can help me out.
When i get an email for instance i open it on my galaxy watch... Press the 3 dots on the right hand side and press the bin icon... This clears the notification from my watch but if i open my phone and go into the email app the email is still sat there.
What i am wanting is to completely delete the email from the account when i delete it on my watch not just clear the notification.
Can anyone help me out please?
Thanks in advance.
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From what I am reading, the access you have on your Galaxy Watch to your non-Samsung device is purely notifications. If it was a Samsung device (This is what I am hearing), you could get a native watch app that allows this but in your current set up, you can only clear the notification, not the email.
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From what I am reading, the access you have on your Galaxy Watch to your non-Samsung device is purely notifications. If it was a Samsung device (This is what I am hearing), you could get a native watch app that allows this but in your current set up, you can only clear the notification, not the email.
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Hi. I am using a Samsung galaxy note 9 with the Samsung galaxy watch. I can go into the email app on the watch to delete the email but I want to be able to delete straight from the notification not just clear the notification and still have the email sat in the email account.
Thanks
And so the plot thickens...
I have tried to adapt to the way tizen seems to deal with email notifications and i am now opening the notification and pressing the "open in app" option and then long pressing the email and deleting from there on the watch. A bit of a long way around compared to wear os but OK it will have to do i suppose....
Now i am finding that if i do the method above the email deletes from the account, but the notification will still sit on my phone until i remove it on the phone despite already actually being deleted from the account :crying::crying:.
Who at Samsung thought this was all OK and was a good way of managing email notifications. It is completely broken
Solution found
I found following solution to satisfy author of the topic ( and me either ):
Note: I do not have Mail app on the watch as I do not have Samsung phone - all happens through notifications from Email app on the phone
1. Find and install TypeApp mail client from Play Store
2. Configure client above as you like - it is feature rich and bit messy but once done you will be satisfied
3. Important: in TypeApp: Setting-Notifications- Advanced Notifications ( top of screen ) ENABLE: Extended notifications for Wear & Nougat
4. Enable notification push to watch in Galaxy Wearable phone app
And now: when you receive notification on the Watch, click 3 dots on the right. You will note 2 wastebaskets icons. Touching upper icon deletes email and notification, touching lower icon clears notification from the Watch only
Happy Tuesday
P.S. I do not know how it works with other Emaill apps. Your comments are welcome.
I've just bought the Huawei Mate 20X - liking it so far, but I want a watch to go with it.
Could anyone advise me if the Galaxy Watch will work ok with it?
I'd want to be able to use Samsung Pay, receive notifications for Gmail, SMS etc, and be able to use some kind of fitness app - don't mind it that was Google Fit, Samsung Health or another really.
Anybody know if I'm likey to face problems? Samsung list some Huawei (and other manufacturers) but the list doesn't seem exhaustive.
Thanks.
greatcapp said:
I've just bought the Huawei Mate 20X - liking it so far, but I want a watch to go with it.
Could anyone advise me if the Galaxy Watch will work ok with it?
I'd want to be able to use Samsung Pay, receive notifications for Gmail, SMS etc, and be able to use some kind of fitness app - don't mind it that was Google Fit, Samsung Health or another really.
Anybody know if I'm likey to face problems? Samsung list some Huawei (and other manufacturers) but the list doesn't seem exhaustive.
Thanks.
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I had an Honor 8 and had no problems with a Gear S3. Even though the phone didn't have NFC Samsung Pay did work on the watch. I could receive notifications, email and SMS and Samsung Health now works on non-Samsung phones. You'll have to wait on someone with a Mate but I don't think you'll have any problems.
Tel864 said:
I had an Honor 8 and had no problems with a Gear S3. Even though the phone didn't have NFC Samsung Pay did work on the watch. I could receive notifications, email and SMS and Samsung Health now works on non-Samsung phones. You'll have to wait on someone with a Mate but I don't think you'll have any problems.
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Thanks very much for your reply.
Did you have to side-load on the Samsung Pay app onto the phone somehow,I'm guessing that the app is needed on the handset?
greatcapp said:
Thanks very much for your reply.
Did you have to side-load on the Samsung Pay app onto the phone somehow,I'm guessing that the app is needed on the handset?
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No, that installed from the Samsung app once i started the Pay setup on the watch.
I'm picking the watch up in the morning, so hopefully, I'll have it all set up by the weekend. Thanks again.
All seems to be good. Watch setup was no problem, Samsung Pay loaded up fine & all cards added. Still have to try making a payment & completing an exercise, but everything seems to be syncing ok with the watch. Notifications all seem to be coming through on the watch.
Hi @ all,
I hope you can help me out.
I own the Huawei Watch 2 and got me the 3 now. In 2 you could synchronize the messages from your Smartphone to the Watch and for instance set WhatsApp messages on "read" or delete E-Mails directly from your E-Mail App. With that you could comfortably delete the messages directly from the Watch off the Manage Notifications Screen from your Smartphone and the corresponding Apps which was a great Feature!
Apparently this is not possible (anymore) in 3 or am I missing something? In 3 you only can "delete" the message from the Watch but not directly from the Smartphone.
Any thoughts on that?
CaerCadarn said:
Hi @ all,
I hope you can help me out.
I own the Huawei Watch 2 and got me the 3 now. In 2 you could synchronize the messages from your Smartphone to the Watch and for instance set WhatsApp messages on "read" or delete E-Mails directly from your E-Mail App. With that you could comfortably delete the messages directly from the Watch off the Manage Notifications Screen from your Smartphone and the corresponding Apps which was a great Feature!
Apparently this is not possible (anymore) in 3 or am I missing something? In 3 you only can "delete" the message from the Watch but not directly from the Smartphone.
Any thoughts on that?
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Yes you are right. Actually you just remove the notification.
Maybe in some future updates.