This is my first water "resistant" phone and I'm totally tempted to wash it under the kitchen sink just for the heck of it.
But I'm guessing that while the phone will still "work fine" after getting wet, there just isn't much you can do about light damage to speakers.
Even polymer or other "plastic" speakers. Even as tiny as the surrounds on these speakers might be. If they even have surrounds.
Anyone have experience getting phones wet and then listening to the speakers afterwards? Were they okay?
I took mine into the shower and the speakers immediately lost about 75 of the volume. After, I towel dried it, shook it out, even blow dried. Still, it's not back to normal.
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I took mine into the shower and the speakers immediately lost about 75 of the volume. After, I towel dried it, shook it out, even blow dried. Still, it's not back to normal.
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Technically it should be able to handle being under water without any problem. I know that the wife knocked my Lg g6 into the spa and pulled it out right after without any problem to the phone or speakers.
The pixel is IP68:
Meaning"
The new devices can withstand immersion in water of more than 1 meter and will generally work down to 3 meters.
I would presume that the speakers just need to dry out completely before they are back to normal?
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Technically it should be able to handle being under water without any problem. I know that the wife knocked my Lg g6 into the spa and pulled it out right after without any problem to the phone or speakers.
The pixel is IP68:
Meaning"
The new devices can withstand immersion in water of more than 1 meter and will generally work down to 3 meters.
I would presume that the speakers just need to dry out completely before they are back to normal?
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I believe there is also a distinct difference between being immersed in water and forced water. Meaning dipping it in water or using it in the rain might be OK but a shower head spraying water into the speaker or other ports/holes would be bad.
I treat the water resistance as more of an insurance policy/safety net than a standard feature.
I've soaked mine several times when applying the wet install screen protectors and they are 100% fine. The speakers were wet to the point where I pressed the screen liquid was seeping out of the speakers. I haven't noticed any problems after this. I've had the same experiences with other phones as well.
The speakers themselves are fine, but it's the speaker grill that seems to clog up and block the sound from the speaker below. It really doesn't take much to severely reduce the sound of the speakers.
When I first got the phone, I kept the plastic on it while setting it up as I waited for my screen protector to arrive. When I tried to listen to a song, I had to turn the volume up to max just to hear anything. That thin little sheet of plastic was enough to almost completely block the sound at any volume lower than max. So, I'm sure any calcium deposits left in the speaker grills when the water dries will have the same effect.
I've heard people having success scrubbing the grill with a small brush. Be careful not to scratch your screen though.
I literally just sucked on the speaker after getting it wet and it was messed up and when i sucked on it it was fine
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I literally just sucked on the speaker after getting it wet and it was messed up and when i sucked on it it was fine
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Has to be the best post ever on xda. ?
I took my Pixel 3 XL into the shower and it was just fine. The speaker's get quiet and muffled when water gets into them but that's normal. I just played some music at full volume with my phone face down on the corner of my desk so the speaker grilles were exposed and the water eventually came out. It took a bit longer than I was expecting but they returned to exactly how they were before.
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Anyone been unfortunate enough to drop your One X? Or bring it to endure any other cruel and unusual (or mundane) punishment?
How did it fare?
Things like, what case did you have, and how far did you drop it from? Did it break? Or hold it's own?
i dropped once. no case no guard about chest height probably 1.5m. no damage and screen flicker disappeared dont know what happened but it was magical
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I don't know how I did it, but I somehow managed to launch my phone halfway across the floor and face/screen-down onto laminate floor. No damage, but it went with such a bang that I really expected to see a crack!
Mine slipped out of my hand while I was drunk, hit the ground and then I kicked it and it slid for about 3 metres.
Result was a nasty dent on the lower left corner and a scratched camera lens.
Think the phone escaped much worse damage by some good luck.
Edit: Should also mention that the glass popped out of the body on one side, and had to be clicked back into place.
Dropped mine with no case from a hight of about 3.5 feet. It fell face up onto a linoleum floor, hit on a corner and then slid a few feet.
There was no visible damage anywhere. With all the noise it made and as much as it slid I expected scratch on the polycarbonate or a cracked screen at the corner. Was please to see it was perfectly fine including the camera lens. I think the polycarbonate is pretty sturdy.
The lens and screen are the areas to be concerned about.
Dropped mine from 1.5 meters height with the screen side to the ground on a sidewalk. After it got dropped it made a slide on the sidewalk for about 15 cm.
I really thought it would had scratches on the screen or something, but it didn't. Only a little minor scratch between the screen and the body.
Used for a bit of emergency navigation in the ash-tray of our car (Sensation fit in there perfectly) it slid out on a corner, about 6 inches. Slid over metal or grit because it got 2 scratches on the glass along with a nasty little gouge at the start of one.
I can live with it, I know Gorilla Glass is not magical. Got screen protectors now.
Mine slid out of my hand while I was sitting on the edge of the Mississippi river, faced down across the grass and then onto some rocks. Got some small scratches in the screen I'm gonna wait a couple months then replace it using ensquare
Dropped mine, screen popped out, but since then damn good battery life. Really wierd.
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Dropped mine, screen popped out, but since then damn good battery life. Really wierd.
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screen popped out?
Sckank said:
Dropped mine, screen popped out, but since then damn good battery life. Really wierd.
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i guess the screen pop out from left side.. am i right?
yup most likely left side
Did not fair well atall.. Two massive dents/scratches on the right side
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Mine slipped out of my hand while I was drunk, hit the ground and then I kicked it and it slid for about 3 metres.
Result was a nasty dent on the lower left corner and a scratched camera lens.
Think the phone escaped much worse damage by some good luck.
Edit: Should also mention that the glass popped out of the body on one side, and had to be clicked back into place.
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God that sounds horrible. I would of cried if I saw that incident happen to this beautiful phone.
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I was doing cardio at the gym on a treadmill. The phone was resting on the display area so I could watch a TV show while doing my steady-state cardio session. When I finished, I got off the treadmill without taking my headphones out of my ears, I accidentally hit the cord and it yanked the phone off it's resting place, it hit the safety-bar/arm rail thing, and then hit the plastic border of the treadmill, and then landed on the carpeted floor. After I resumed my breathing and my heart started beating again, I picked it up and there was only a tiny smudge on the back which rubbed out with my finger. It didn't even turn off. This was with no case.
Yikes.
No Damage
No case/protectors on mine. It slipped out of my hands while sitting & bounced/slid .5 m on a hard tile floor. I expected something, but it came away unscathed!
Still getting both a case & screen protector, just to be safe
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God that sounds horrible. I would of cried if I saw that incident happen to this beautiful phone.
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I wasn't far from it but just thankful the phone still does everything it should. The scratches on the camera were around the metal rim so no effect on picture quality.
I ordered a case for it the next day.
I was walking to the kitchen while replying to an SMS.
Kitchen almost reached, I was at the estabilished goal! Let's put the phone in its pouch.... OH NO!
I've accidentally launched it, dunno how, on the floor with the screen faced down: the whole thing happened in like one second, but it was an hard and LONG second (felt like 30 seconds), with me there with the pouch in my hands and the X falling on the floor.
I walked and took my One X, raised it from the floor carefully.......
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......and it was surprisingly perfect! Not a scratch, but something really not noticeable on the lower right corner of the phone shell.
That was a real horror movie
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culac said:
Mine slipped out of my hand while I was drunk, hit the ground and then I kicked it and it slid for about 3 metres.
Result was a nasty dent on the lower left corner and a scratched camera lens.
Think the phone escaped much worse damage by some good luck.
Edit: Should also mention that the glass popped out of the body on one side, and had to be clicked back into place.
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A dent? Like the plastic is bent inward as metal would be? Or there's like a chunk of plastic missing (rubbed away?)
Anyhow...
I'm glad to hear it fares well in minor skirmishes!
Looks like the choice to spring with a phone with Guerrilla Glass was a good move (Can anyone attest to it being better than other screen materials?)
Also, from the sound of it, the claims that the One X is "flimsy" don't seem quite as sturdy as the phone itself? What do you think?
I've dropped my 3 times so far, well technically I've dropped it twice and thrown it once.
The 2 times I dropped it were both onto carpet so did not damage the phone ( from about 60cm once and 80cm the second time)
The time I threw it was from about 50cm high and about the same distance out onto laminate flooring because I was using it in the bath and had finished with it, was fine on this occasion too.
Recently i received my Xperia Z1C White. After some careful checking (that happens when you are a techy) i noticed that the frame bends slightly inwards at the back side. I made a small example of what i mean on a photo. The problem is. If you can press those parts of the frame inwards, what happens with the waterproof seal between that part of the frame and the plastic bezel on top of this? Is this the case with every Xperia Z1C or is this a rare problem?
I suspect this also is the reason why you can hear a sound while pressing the screen slightly.
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Recently i received my Xperia Z1C White. After some careful checking (that happens when you are a techy) i noticed that the frame bends slightly inwards at the back side. I made a small example of what i mean on a photo. The problem is. If you can press those parts of the frame inwards, what happens with the waterproof seal between that part of the frame and the plastic bezel on top of this? Is this the case with every Xperia Z1C or is this a rare problem?
I suspect this also is the reason why you can hear a sound while pressing the screen slightly.
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Same on my phone, but only the charging port side, and my phone squeaks too.
Me too - i can also press the frame inward. Oh my god, i´m a bit confused now...lets hope everything is ok and water is no problem for that...
*EDIT* But i have to say that this also is an issue to find on my Z1 !
Had a bit of convex shape on the back, barely noticeable. Hairdryer and pressing did the trick.
And no, don't be too harsh to the phone.
Glue seems to be unequally applicated.
Made in China after all.
I don't know why, but it doesn't seems any problem with my white phone.
I wonder hwo wide spread or problematic this is. On a normal phone this wouldnt be a problem at all. But on a waterproof phone every error can be a problem.
Mine seems to have the same microscopic gap on the back around the docking port.
I dunked it in a bowl of water and let it sit for 5 minutes. Took it out, dried it off - no problems.
The back of mine flexes when pressed hard in the center, but there are no gaps at the edges (even when pressed)
Is this something they'd accept a warranty replacement for? Where do you go about requesting such?
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Is this something they'd accept a warranty replacement for? Where do you go about requesting such?
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I think no warranty on this, they will probably consider it normal.
The problem with high precision designed devices like this and iphones is, that if something is a bit off you notice it easier.
I do regret it a bit that i didnt exchange it within the 7 days that it is possible to exchange a product after buying it in holland. But if it is widespread, then the case of a phone without the flexing frame/misaligned frame would be very small.
For anyone worried about the waterproof nature of their device, the only thing I can say is - test it. If the product works as intended you're golden. If not, you're covered by warranty.
I'm avid photographer and diver and with all new waterproof equipment, the first thing I do is test their waterproofing by either dunking them in the tub or the sink full of water.
You've bought a device with a capability which you should be able to trust. No need to find out 1 year later when you drop it in the toilet that your device is faulty.
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Mine seems to have the same microscopic gap on the back around the docking port.
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Same here, only a small gap around docking port that can be ever so slightly pressed in under higher-than-normal pressure, never noticed it in every day handling.
Mine keeps pulling hairs out of my beard!
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I believe there's a sensor-like surface when you open up one of the flaps (the micro-USB one I think). It's a small white square and it turns red when in contact with water.
This is how the service centres know that you are complying to proper usage. So do be careful not to get the internals wet
That would make sense
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I have exchanged mine, still a little flex around the charging port but the back is definitely more flush. No small gap and less cracking noise when pressing the back as well. Very content with the built quality of this phone now.
Hey so I was using my HTC One M8 outdoors today and it began to rain. I was about to put it away but I realised there were a few light droplets on the screen and on the speakers. I cannot notice any sort of damage or decline in the performance of the speakers but I am still concerned. Could there be any detrimental effects whatsoever and would I be able to distinguish them? I believe the phone is water resistant to some degree but could it be affected? Thanks.
Someone submerged the phone under water for quite sometime and it survives, just be sure to dry it out first. You'll be good
So got my phone 2 days ago and finally decided to take my phone for a swim in my salt water pool. Everything was fine until I dipped my phone underwater for 2 seconds. Phone then started to malfunction like crazy! Power button stopped working, camera would randomly open every few seconds, google on tap would Activate every few seconds. I turned my phone on and off and let it dry for one hour and the phone was still acting crazy. Even while the phone was on the lock screen or on the always on display screen it would go crazy and turn the camera on! I was getting ready to return my phone the next day as defective. I then took the phone and dipped it in regular sink water for a few seconds and now it works fine! Does anyone know if this phone is only resistent to fresh water and not salt water?? Lesson learned, never put this phone near water again. Hope I dont experience permanent damage after only having the phone for a few days!
I am not surprised at the reaction that your phone went through. The only thing seperating your Note's innards and water are some rubber. Even though it's rated at IP68, it speaks nothing of it's ability to withstand what mother nature is capable of. But I recommend that you stop dipping your phone in water for no reason. Unless of course you have a YouTube channel to which I will say I am looking forward to hot nickel ball vs Note 7. I am a sucker for those.
I actually had gone to the lake yesterday and tested this out, of course after watching a youtube of someone else using the phone under water, and can't say that I've experienced any issues. Then again the lake is freshwater, but I'm interested in knowing more about the affects of saltwater on this phone... Probably because the charger port is still exposed?
The ports are sealed which means there shouldn't be water getting into the phone itself to mess with the internals. I don't think salt makes a difference except it might confuse the screen input.
The phone shouldn't be acting in this way if the seals are doing their job. If indeed there is water ingress, go to Samsung for an exchange.
Along those same lines of salt vs fresh water, what about hot vs cold/room temperature? Regular tap water from the sink, the pool, getting sprayed with the hose...all fine. But what about a jacuzzi, a natural hot spring or a hot steamy shower? I took mine in the shower yesterday, but at a lower temp than usual to test it out, it was warm water, and the phone did fine. Nervous to try a full blown hot shower or jacuzzi. Anyone have experience with it in hot water yet?
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Along those same lines of salt vs fresh water, what about hot vs cold/room temperature? Regular tap water from the sink, the pool, getting sprayed with the hose...all fine. But what about a jacuzzi, a natural hot spring or a hot steamy shower? I took mine in the shower yesterday, but at a lower temp than usual to test it out, it was warm water, and the phone did fine. Nervous to try a full blown hot shower or jacuzzi. Anyone have experience with it in hot water yet?
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Interesting because my pool was also Heated and was probably 85 degrees. I wonder if the heat along with the salt water affected the phone. It's weird but once I dipped it in fresh water for a few second everything went back to normal. However, I really think it was the salt for some reason. Must have been something Electrical that made the phone go crazy!
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I am not surprised at the reaction that your phone went through. The only thing seperating your Note's innards and water are some rubber. Even though it's rated at IP68, it speaks nothing of it's ability to withstand what mother nature is capable of. But I recommend that you stop dipping your phone in water for no reason. Unless of course you have a YouTube channel to which I will say I am looking forward to hot nickel ball vs Note 7. I am a sucker for those.
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I literally dipped in for no more than 5 seconds! I didnt even use it underwater. If the phone cannot withstand 5 seconds being submerged in water than it should not be IP68!
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Interesting because my pool was also Heated and was probably 85 degrees. I wonder if the heat along with the salt water affected the phone. It's weird but once I dipped it in fresh water for a few second everything went back to normal. However, I really think it was the salt for some reason. Must have been something Electrical that made the phone go crazy!
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Judging by my warm shower (not sure the temp, but not nearly as hot as usual for myself) I wouldn't think your heated pool would be much different as far as temp goes. I would guess the salt probably had more to do with the erratic behavior and random inputs than the temperature of the heated pool.
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Judging by my warm shower (not sure the temp, but not nearly as hot as usual for myself) I wouldn't think your heated pool would be much different as far as temp goes. I would guess the salt probably had more to do with the erratic behavior and random inputs than the temperature of the heated pool.
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My friend who has the Samsung Galaxy Edge 7 used his phone to take pictures underwater with his phone and didn't have any problems. That's another reason why I'm concerned.
Actually it is the salt waters fault...
Salt water is more conductive than freshwater due to the sodium and chlorine ions within it. This has probably meant the screen has freaked out as it works on conductivity etc.
Even after drying out there was probably a residual coating of salt on the screen and when you washed it in freshwater it was removed and it started being OK again.
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Really interested about people testing the Note 7's water resistance.
This was one of the big selling points for the Note 7 for me, but from what I've seen with Galaxy S7 tests and Note 7 tests, it still seems like a risk using your phone in water. I think I'll wait until at least next year before testing out the water resistance. I'd like to get some use out of my new $950 phone before I intentionally submerge and it blows up or something.
Do NOT put the phone in saltwater. That IP68 certification is for freshwater. The saltwater was definitely the problem. I've heard Samsung will not cover the replacement if they find out it has been in saltwater.
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My friend who has the Samsung Galaxy Edge 7 used his phone to take pictures underwater with his phone and didn't have any problems. That's another reason why I'm concerned.
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Unless your friend has a salt water pool, or was in yours, I wouldn't be concerned about it. I would assume the ocean would have the same type of effect on the phone unfortunately. In regular water circumstances it should be fine, as I've experienced so far. I'm just curious about how the hotter end of the spectrum effects the phone.
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Well seems we have our answers about salt water
salt water conducts electricity better than sweet water.
in fact, you should be fine dipping an open non-WR device in perfectly clean water as it doesn't conduct electricity at all(not easy to find)
water resistance with this phone refers to it's capability of keeping the water away from the internals, which it does well enough(i read somewhere the rating means at least 30 minutes at 1 meter depth)
your phone wasn't affected by water on the inside, but traces of highly conductive salt water on the screen's surface which mimicked tapping from your fingers.
you should definitely avoid "extreme" temperatures (freezing or hot water) as these will cause both the casing and the sealing material to change shape a bit which can create gaps.
and also avoid soap, as it weakens the water's surface tension allowing it to leak through smaller gaps.
I think Samsung should at the very least tell people not to use the phone in Salt Water in it's Ads!!! Alot of the answers in this thread make sense and it seems that it's not a good idea to use these Samsungs in salt water....
I went to the beach yesterday...i didnt even go in the water with the phone (too cold) when i was driving home I had a warning about my charge port having water.
Interesting.
Good info about no salt water... glad I didnt trat it the waves.....phew!
It's in the manual: no salt water, no washing with soap etc...
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See this guy putting his note 7 into coca cola flor 11hours
Phone do it great
Youtu.be/8eL7d55g994
Your best bet is to treat this water resistance as a precaution. Yes, Samsung even uses shows the s7 series (includes the note) as being able to handle taking pictures underwater. I am sure this is the case, but the warranty for this phone VERY SPECIFICALLY says that if the water resistance fails, they are not responsible. There is even liquid damage indicators in the sim slot. So, again, this will be at your own risk.
Also, salt is more conductive, etc, as everyone has already said. What is more important, and an effect that can't be washed off with freshwater, is the corrosive nature of salt on electronics, and rubber. The salt, overtime, will eat away at a water sealing gasket. If any salt gets into the sealed portion of the phone....game over.
I owned a S7 for 2 weeks, before returning it and getting an s7 edge (I now have the note 7). I was talking on the phone when I got drenched by a drunk buddy with a hose. Guess what? The LDI did not trip, and there was no signs of water damage. The phone worked fine...but the mic never worked again, for the remaining week I owned the phone. I even told the store I returned it to, and they were nice enough to take the phone back anyway. But if the mic malfunction was the result of the water exposure, and I assume it is, Samsung would not have been obligated to fix it for free.
I take advantage of the water resistance, but I don't flirt with it either.
Now I'm nervous that I somehow did some permanent damage to my phone. Seems to be working fine right now with no issues whatsoever. Speaker seems to be working fine. Anyone know other possible permanent damage to the phone I should be on the lookout for to determine if I should return it during the warranty period?
Slowly, day by day, incall volume decreased.
I compared mi mi6 with a newer one, a friend's MI6, and I found out that my top speaker grid is completely clogged with dust and dirt... I tried to clean that with a needle and a vacoon, it worked, but after some hours the volume decreased another time...
How about you? Are you facing a similar problem? How you solved? Or how would you solve?
P.s.: Top speaker also have very little holes, is pretty difficult to clean.
use old toothbrush to clean the grill
face the grill downside so that the dust come out
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use old toothbrush to clean the grill
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That happened to you too? I'm going to try
Mi6 is almost water resistang BUT NOT THE USB PORT
So basically you can clean it with water or alcohol. Be careful with pointy objects.
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Mi6 is almost water resistang BUT NOT THE USB PORT
So basically you can clean it with water or alcohol. Be careful with pointy objects.
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I don't really suggest any liquids other than ones made specifically for electronics. Alcohol is a good one or some water with its charge removed (forgot the name). The Mi 6 has no water resistance rating. They just say it has some sealing against water so take the advice with a pinch of salt. Sony made all their phones "water resistant" and later recalled the claims :/
I cleaned some small fibers from my ear speaker using bluetac gently pressed against it. GENTLY!!!
You can clean the bottom speaker with a pin gently around the very outer part.
Don't put the pin actually inside or it will get damaged. Just the outside parts.
Its not too bad to clean luckily. Not ideal that there are places for dirt to build up but many phones have this issue
Hello friends:
In the same way, over time the volume was decreasing until reaching the point of not listening to anything!
the problem is the blessed speaker, it seems to be clogged with dirt or I really do not know what happens.
I cleaned it with a contact cleaner for electric circuits and then with a suction vacuum for the outside ... and I really improved a lot, but I do not stay 100% as when I was new, a pity I am disappointed by this Mi6, apparently they are equipment with failures factory.
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JC
Hi, with a toothbrush and contact cleaner (electronic) on the speaker call, with circular movements I cleaned it and now if it sounds much better, I can say 100%, I noticed when I cleaned the speaker, there were some white particles, I guess that had saturated, obstructed in its entirety the output of the sound, even until the stereo mode is better heard in that front speaker .. greetings and luck!
JC