does the tab s4 lag like the s3? - Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 Questions & Answers

I have a tab s3 and it lags when performing basic tasks.
the feeling is like that of a desktop running windows on a 5200rpm hard disk.
how is the s4?
thank you.

no, it doesn't lag.
but there are some apps that are incompatible with Tab S4 that can cause system wide lags...in my case IOBit Applock.
After uninstall everything runs smoothly.

Can confirm that the Tab S4 does not lag like the Tab S3.
The Tab S3 lag was horrible out of the box and was very frustrating to use. After the firmware update it became tolerable but still frustrating (to a lesser degree).
I didn't see that kind of lag on the S4 yet.

I also can confirm, no lag. It's a much better experience. The updated CPU made a world of difference.
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So far so good with my 64GB LTE version with 4GB RAM, though I have only had the tablet since mid December and haven't really done anything very demanding on it yet.
Are you all using the 4GB variant as well? The 6GB is hard to come by and wasn't available in Doha Hamad International Airport when I bought mine.
I think 6GB should have been standard as I'm sure that 4GB will be the primary limitation that results in lag. The SD835 is fast enough to handle most tasks and games very well.

I can also confirm that the Tab S4 has no lag compared to Tab S3 that I used to have.
Very smooth experience with S4.
Too bad android app support for tablets is diminishing by the minute. Some apps (that is developed for phone) look so aweful on tablet screens, I had to uninstall them.

d4rkkn16ht said:
no, it doesn't lag.
but there are some apps that are incompatible with Tab S4 that can cause system wide lags...in my case IOBit Applock.
After uninstall everything runs smoothly.
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cryptonium said:
Can confirm that the Tab S4 does not lag like the Tab S3.
The Tab S3 lag was horrible out of the box and was very frustrating to use. After the firmware update it became tolerable but still frustrating (to a lesser degree).
I didn't see that kind of lag on the S4 yet.
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folks,
I am reaching the same conclusion.
The t830 is very responsive and smooth.
I hope it remains this way even after installing many apps in the not so far future.
The display is also smoother using either the spen or finger. I don't think it's because it's brand new. Is it the same gorilla?

d4rkkn16ht said:
no, it doesn't lag.
but there are some apps that are incompatible with Tab S4 that can cause system wide lags...in my case IOBit Applock.
After uninstall everything runs smoothly.
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Byte_76 said:
So far so good with my 64GB LTE version with 4GB RAM, though I have only had the tablet since mid December and haven't really done anything very demanding on it yet.
Are you all using the 4GB variant as well? The 6GB is hard to come by and wasn't available in Doha Hamad International Airport when I bought mine.
I think 6GB should have been standard as I'm sure that 4GB will be the primary limitation that results in lag. The SD835 is fast enough to handle most tasks and games very well.
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Exactly. The galaxy s8+ and note 8 come with 6gb. The tab S4, released later, comes with 4gb.

drohm said:
I also can confirm, no lag. It's a much better experience. The updated CPU made a world of difference.
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I don't think it's the CPU only. I know the 835 has 8 cores while the 820 only 4 cores, but does Oreo make good use of extra cores?
Also the frequency difference isn't that much @ 15%.
Perhaps bloatware was optimized...
My 2 cents.

I have both the Tab S3 and Tab S4 and neither of them lag.

diehard2013 said:
I have a tab s3 and it lags when performing basic tasks.
the feeling is like that of a desktop running windows on a 5200rpm hard disk.
how is the s4?
thank you.
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You can fix the lag by rooting your tab S3 and install Trimmer (fstrim)

Almost 24 hours in with owning this thing... I can say that I haven't seen any lag. Not when I'm unlocking it, using apps, swiping through things... nothing. It may not have the latest hardware... but it doesn't look like that's affecting anything. I even edited a whole 16 minute video down to a 6 minute video on this with no lag! This tablet is amazing man I tell you. Never knew you could do some almost PC-like editing on here

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You can fix the lag by rooting your tab S3 and install Trimmer (fstrim)
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Damn!
has Samsung acknowledged this?
By reading the app description one can deduce that the tab S4 will suffer the same fate in the future, unless the SSD is different or newer..
I recall the tab S3 starting to lag just a few weeks after a full factory wipe/reset, though such procedure wouldn't correct trimming, correct?

Don't have an S3 but my S4 does not lag and as a matter of fact while using it in the DeX mode it is refreshing as compared to my Desktop and Galaxy Book how quickly the apps open up. Third party email and office apps open almost instantly even when not running in the background..

bill-e said:
Don't have an S3 but my S4 does not lag and as a matter of fact while using it in the DeX mode it is refreshing as compared to my Desktop and Galaxy Book how quickly the apps open up. Third party email and office apps open almost instantly even when not running in the background..
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Yes, S4 users don't complain about lag on their tab. I thing that's the first time I see that, it's cool

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Thinking I May Return My Tab 3 8"

I'm pretty disappointed with the Tab 3. Seems very slow/laggy. In addition, there is zero development on XDA for the tab 3. I know this just came out in the US, but it has been out for months worldwide. I've had this tablet for a couple weeks, so it's not just a first impression at this point.....
Currently, very unstable root and recovery. No custom roms. No way to install scripts/intd.
I've had a Galaxy 3 phone for about a year and love it. My phone runs circles around the Tab 3 in terms of responsiveness, processing......pretty much everything actually.
Am I getting a unique experience with my Tab or is everyone noticing the slow, dragging, instability of this tab? Size and screen are great, but do not outweigh the performance issues in my book.
Anyone else returned/exchanged their Tab 3? If so, what did you return it for? Thinking about going w/ the new Nexus 7, but there are a lot of options out there....please help!!!!!!
Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?
rumatt said:
Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?
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Not at all. I don't play games on it or anything that requires heavy cpu usage. Just basic navigation is very slow. Is your tab rooted?
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arshull said:
Not at all. I don't play games on it or anything that requires heavy cpu usage. Just basic navigation is very slow. Is your tab rooted?
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Nope not rooted.
Yeah I wish I could return mine at this point the asus memo 7 hd seems like a much better choice for 50 less than this thing.
arshull said:
I'm pretty disappointed with the Tab 3. Seems very slow/laggy. In addition, there is zero development on XDA for the tab 3.
Currently, very unstable root and recovery. No custom roms. No way to install scripts/intd.
Am I getting a unique experience with my Tab or is everyone noticing the slow, dragging, instability of this tab?
Anyone else returned/exchanged their Tab 3? If so, what did you return it for? Thinking about going w/ the new Nexus 7
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I owned a Nexus-7 2013.. Took it back on the 15th day.. (Walmart) They're a lot of issues going on with the N7.. GPS being the main one.. And there are some bad ones out in the field.. So be warned. I was lucky and got a good one, but it just did not justify the price (32 Gb) $294.00 out the door.. for the size of the Tablet for me.. I also own an iPad Mini.. and the 7" Screen of the N7 just was not cutting it for me after being exposed to the 8" 4:3 Screen of the iPad Mini for the last year or so.. The N7 just seem too small.. lots of development for it.. but for me they were the same ROMs I was running on my recently sold Galaxy Note.. so they were Quite Boring and offered nothing new. Then I spotted this Tablet and the Beautiful Saturated Colors and it's 8" Screen won me over on 1st sight.. You got a bad Tablet.. You should just do a Factory Reset Wipe everything and go back to how the Tablet was when it came out of the box. if it's still laggy.. Return it and try another Tab 3 8.0 or something else. Mine was fast out of the box .. is now rooted and still smokes.. have you tried a different launcher? have you gone into developer options and adjusted your animations for faster response...?
rumatt said:
Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?
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No issues with my Tab 3 8.0 either..
mirrin said:
Yeah I wish I could return mine at this point the asus memo 7 hd seems like a much better choice for 50 less than this thing.
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I think this is about the Tab 3 "8.0" but you are correct... the Asus would be a better choice when comparing to the Tab 3 7.0.. IMO..
Sell what you got for $150.00... Then buy the Asus.
You are still cutting someone a deal if your unit is still in "Like New" Condition..
Speed
Mine is rooted and still is quite responsive.
Speed wise it was not as fast as the Note 8.0 but it is only dual core!
Ran Antutu on Note 8.0 and tab 3 before buying tab 3 8.0
note was 16,000 and tab 12,000
Where as my mtk6569 Note 5.5' clone came in at 16,138.
my old mtk6575 was around 9,000 from memory. But it has gone to the gods RIP.
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Speed wise it was not as fast as the Note 8.0 but it is only dual core!
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This is potentially misleading. It's the same clock rate processor. For many tasks the Tab 8 is just as fast as the Note 8. Exactly the same speed.
Where a quad core will shine over a dual core is when you're trying to do lots of stuff at once. The main area I noticed a difference is something like loading a huge web page and trying to scroll while it's still loading. Lots of stuff happening at the same time there so more processors makes a clear difference.
But for basic, one at a time tasks where there's not much parallelism to be found, there isn't much noticeable performance difference.
I don't know if the '8 is that much different, but my tab 3 10.1 is among the speediest i' ve ever used(tablets)
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Tab s2 9.7' or Tab s 10.5'

Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
lorismarcos said:
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
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I recommend the Tab S 10.5 based on your statement.
Here's a video comparing both:
Really helpful video.
Thanks mate.
Is the performance of that exynos 5420 decent for viewing large PDF's?
Cause from my research many people tend to complain about the tab S' performance.
Or is that associated with the touchwiz
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I have been using the Tab S 10.5 for a while now, and it is terribly slow. The reasons for the slowness are very little RAM which cripples the OS (3GB) and general Android application awkwardness and slugginess (designed for phones not for every day use). Both Galaxy tabs have 3GB RAM so you're out of luck.
Using the tablet to do simple, every day tasks, there is a tremendous difference with the laptop. I know you said you only want to watch movies or read books, but still I think a small laptop running Windows or Apple iOS would beat the pants out of any tablet. The only difference is the price, tablets can be much cheaper than laptops. But I regret having bought the tablet because it cannot really do simple things without extreme awkwardness.
The only major plus is I am using it also as a phone (I have the T805) which is something no laptop can do (that I am aware of).
As you said I also have the tablet in a case/ book cover , complete with keyboard and mouse, so it is like a small laptop anyway.
If you have not bought it yet, try to see if there are 10"-11" laptops that could do everything you need and so much better.
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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"multitasking like crazy..." That was funny!
lorismarcos said:
Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
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since you mentioned cyanogenmod.... go with the good old tab s 10.5... tab s 2 got nothing develop yet.... :silly:
You are either an 16:10 or 4:3 person, if you watch more video get the S1 10.5" 16:10 if you browse the internet mostly get the S2 9.7" 4:3 Version, if you don't care, I don't either.
John.
lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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Go with Tab s 10.5:
Bigger display
Higher resolution 2560 x 1600
Led flash
Infrared
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Astania said:
Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
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I totally agree the tabs 10.5 fast with stock and even faster when rooted. I own the SM-T807P by Sprint variant. I just wish for a couple of custom Roms .
Guys, thanks for all your help.
I went and got my self a nice bronze t805...
I managed to last about 30 mins with bloatwiz.. So now I'm on PAC man Rom...Who cares about Knox and warranties and what not...
I really recommend this Rom. It completely transformed my tab, and now it's much faster.
Cheers lads

Upgrading to the Tab S 8.4 from a Nexus 7 - who's done it?

I have owned the Nexus 7 (2013) since early 2014. It's quite nice overall although occasionally the touchscreen becomes unresponsive. It's running stock Marshmallow which is pretty nice. The only shortcoming for me is the 7" screen. I'd like a slightly larger screen but something less than 9". Either an 8 or 8.4 seems about right. I will buy a used tablet and the current 8" S2 models are still more than I want to spend so I'm thinking either a Tab S or a Tab Pro. Leaning towards the S because it's running Lollipop. Just wondering if any 8.4" Tab S owners came from the Nexus 7 and if so, are you happy you made the switch. FWIW, I mainly use it for reading books, web-surfing and a few apps e.g., NYTimes, Flixster, XDA, Facebook, YouTube. I don't play any games. Thanks.
I had a Nexus 7 2012, then a Nexus 7 2013 before coming to the Tab S 8.4. I have had my Tab S since February of last year, and loved it...until the day before yesterday when it bricked. But that is a different story...=(
The Tab S is a great tablet, and was a huge upgrade over either of the Nexus. My only complaints were 1.) the camera is far inferior to the N7 2103's, and 2.) the stock lollipop was so bloated I couldn't stand it. So I rooted it early on, and ran the stock firmware, debloated via Titanium, for well over a year. A couple months ago I switched to AOSP 6.0 because I needed to have adoptable storage. Like any tablet, it is sometimes laggy, etc. But overall the performance, for me, was top notch. I don't play games on my tablet, tho. It is mostly utilitarian for me, websites and spreadsheets, etc. for work, and watching movies and such at home.
I hope this helps.
-A.H.
amateurhack said:
I had a Nexus 7 2012, then a Nexus 7 2013 before coming to the Tab S 8.4. I have had my Tab S since February of last year, and loved it.
I hope this helps.
-A.H.
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Yes it does. Thanks.
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Op, I am curious if you have considered the Nvidia Shield K1 tablet? In USA, the new one is now priced at 200USD. According to a lot of reviews and benchmarks, the K1 has faster internal hardware than either Tab S1 or S2, although its screen colors may be less accurate than those of both Samsung tablets.
Akopps said:
Op, I am curious if you have considered the Nvidia Shield K1 tablet?
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I have not but I'll give it a look. My impression was it's aimed at the serious gamer which I am not. Thanks.
lmacmil said:
Yes it does. Thanks.
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Don't forget to click that "Thanks" button, then. =)
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Don't forget to click that "Thanks" button, then. =)
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Done!
Btw, I found your comment "Like any tablet, it is sometimes laggy" very interesting. I have noticed this both on my Nook HD (whether it was running CM11 or CM13) and to a lesser extent, on my Nexus 7 (currently on Marshmallow.) I'm not sure why that is. Sometimes when the Nook first wakes up from sleep, it is sluggish for several minutes until it "warms up." Not sure if this is due to hardware or software or both. FWIW, I never notice that kind of behavior on my Moto X phone.
I had the Nexus 7 (2012 and 2013) and the Tab Pro 8.4 before I got the S 8.4. The AMOLED screen on the S 8.4 is the best feature, so skip the Pro 8.4. Since you're used to AOSP (Nexus 7 and Moto X) you'll probably hate Touchwiz, but that's easily remedied with custom AOSP ROMS on the S 8.4. I love the S 8.4 and I don't plan on upgrading for a while. I don't play games on my phones/tablets either.
Here's a comparison the S 8.4 vs Nexus 7 2013
HKSpeed said:
I had the Nexus 7 (2012 and 2013) and the Tab Pro 8.4 before I got the S 8.4. The AMOLED screen on the S 8.4 is the best feature, so skip the Pro 8.4. Since you're used to AOSP (Nexus 7 and Moto X) you'll probably hate Touchwiz, but that's easily remedied with custom AOSP ROMS on the S 8.4. I love the S 8.4 and I don't plan on upgrading for a while. I don't play games on my phones/tablets either.
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Good info on the Tab Pro vs S. Had been looking at the Pro mainly because they are cheaper, being a little older. Since it will be mainly a reader, websurfer and YouTube video watcher, the older screen may not be a big issue for me. I just bought a Tab S 10.5 for my wife to replace her Nook HD+. I should have it on Saturday so I'll play with it some and see how Touchwiz is. You're right, I'm not a fan of the manufacturers' overlays in general. When it comes to Android, less is more, imo. I'm not averse to flashing a new ROM as long as it's pretty stable. I have only used CM on the Nooks.
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Good info on the Tab Pro vs S. Had been looking at the Pro mainly because they are cheaper, being a little older. Since it will be mainly a reader, websurfer and YouTube video watcher, the older screen may not be a big issue for me. I just bought a Tab S 10.5 for my wife to replace her Nook HD+. I should have it on Saturday so I'll play with it some and see how Touchwiz is. You're right, I'm not a fan of the manufacturers' overlays in general. When it comes to Android, less is more, imo. I'm not averse to flashing a new ROM as long as it's pretty stable. I have only used CM on the Nooks.
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I forgot the Tab S has 3 GB of RAM versus 2 on the Tab Pro.
Yes. I've made a spreadsheet comparing specs. The RAM and the screen appear to be the main differences, other than the Android versions.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM13 (Android 6.0.1)
Samsung is supposed to announce the availability of the Tab S3 some time soon which means that the prices on the Tab S2 (even brand new one), should start coming down any moment now. That's just my theory.
Akopps said:
Samsung is supposed to announce the availability of the Tab S3 some time soon which means that the prices on the Tab S2 (even brand new one), should start coming down any moment now. That's just my theory.
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I'm in no hurry so I will just wait until the S3 is released. I would actually prefer the 8" to the 8.4" screen anyway so if S2 prices do come down, that would be good.
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Done!
Btw, I found your comment "Like any tablet, it is sometimes laggy" very interesting. I have noticed this both on my Nook HD (whether it was running CM11 or CM13) and to a lesser extent, on my Nexus 7 (currently on Marshmallow.) I'm not sure why that is. Sometimes when the Nook first wakes up from sleep, it is sluggish for several minutes until it "warms up." Not sure if this is due to hardware or software or both. FWIW, I never notice that kind of behavior on my Moto X phone.
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I've always attributed that to background processes that sometimes wake up while you're using the device. Every "computer-type" device I've owned in the last 30+ years has had some level of lag at times. The only way to eliminate that would be to eliminate multitasking, and who wants that? I did find, after a year or so of heavy use that the lag was getting to be pretty bad, and I realized that I was always running critical on internal storage. I have the 32gb model, and I initially had a 32gb sd card, so I had plenty of storage, but the cache would almost instantaneously take up more than 1gb with all the apps I have installed. So that's why I switched to the AOSP 6.0 ROM, and I upgraded to a 128gb sd card, and adopted it all as internal storage. It hasn't eliminated the lag, but it hasn't been nearly as bad. If you look at some of my previous posts, you can see some of my history with that, if you like.
I'm also happy to say that my tab s miraculously uh-bricked itself today. Minutes ago, in fact. I am one super-happy camper at the moment.
Thanks for the thanks!
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...and I upgraded to a 128gb sd card, and adopted it all as internal storage.
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I have not heard of this. Is this an Android feature or a feature added to a custom ROM?
It's a feature of Android 6, but you will need a custom ROM to enable it as it is expected that the Samsung stock 6.0 ROM will have it disabled. Just search for "adoptable storage."

Scrolling smoothness

Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The Note 7 has the same amount of lag as every Samsung device. It'll never go away. We learn to deal with it, even though it still disappoints me year after year.
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Rippley05 said:
The Note 7 has the same amount of lag as every Samsung device. It'll never go away. We learn to deal with it, even though it still disappoints me year after year.
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Agreed. Not nearly as smooth as my year old Nexus 6P.
You guys are complaining about the qualcomm version.
Over here with an SM-N930F (Exynos) and can't complain. Very smooth scrolling performance.
Deliberately opened a long thread from here on xda using Samsung browser (NOT CHROME) and it scrolls perfect even with music playing in the background while downloading a file.
souds diapointing
I can confirm the choppiness not only with the browser but also the transition when switching between apps. I swear my iphone5s feels better than this brand new flagship from Samsung. I've tried to turn off all the animations and to no avail.
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I've got a Tmobile Note 7. Mine seems to often not detect that I've tapped on something, and takes another tap or two to finally register. Other times, it'll be sluggish with scrolling, pulling down the notification shade, opening recent apps, and general on screen animations. The Samsung keyboard is especially bad.
The phone goes through almost no battery when asleep, so it doesn't seem like it would be something keeping the CPU active. This feels like either some sort of over-aggressive governor or some kind of conflict with data transferred to the new phone over Samsung Smart Switch.
I've rebooted multiple times, cleared app cache partition, changed animation scale to 0.5, disabled numerous Samsung bloat apps, nothing has helped. The issue started about a minute after I left the store, so it wasn't caused by any of this troubleshooting. Add this to the heat-up issues and unimpressive battery life when in use, and I am one frustrated dude. My S6 edge+ was leaps and bounds ahead of this thing.
Very smooth scrolling on N930FD. (Exynos)
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I've rebooted multiple times, cleared app cache partition, changed animation scale to 0.5, disabled numerous Samsung bloat apps, nothing has helped. The issue started about a minute after I left the store, so it wasn't caused by any of this troubleshooting. Add this to the heat-up issues and unimpressive battery life when in use, and I am one frustrated dude. My S6 edge+ was leaps and bounds ahead of this thing.
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yikes dude, your phone seems to have other problems other than the standard Samsung bs! tbh I haven't noticed stuttering while I've been using mine. Only problems I've had were with my back key, it took some time getting used to the placement and the capacitive touch buttons since I was coming from a phone with on-screen buttons. The only time I feel my phone gets hot is when I'm watching 1080p or higher videos while the phone is charging. You should try backing up important stuff to Google and then doing a full software reset and not use the smart switch stuff. I'll agree that the Samsung keyboard is not great I went back to SwiftKey but the screen size is something I'm still getting used to. I love that you can adjust the long press time to make it shorter on SwiftKey lol. Also Samsung browser is my default now just to test it out and I'm loving the fingerprint sign in thing for accounts and the ad block extension. Only good stuff so far
Exynos Note 7 reporting in - It's plenty fast and smooth so far.
Seems like the Exynos version is smooth while the SD820 is not as smooth.
Yup. Another exynos owner here - this is smoother than my 6P by far.
Nitemare3219 said:
Agreed. Not nearly as smooth as my year old Nexus 6P.
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Said the same thing.
But one way to improve it -
disable as many bloat apps as possible.
Use a different launcher - sense launcher beta has made it much faster.
Use google chrome
My battery life has improved and things are marginally faster. But it is a crying shame that the nexus 6p, the htc 10, the moto z, and even samsung last devices (galaxy s6) are faster than the note 7 in the day to day.
It's ... unnerving
domineus said:
Said the same thing.
But one way to improve it -
disable as many bloat apps as possible.
Use a different launcher - sense launcher beta has made it much faster.
Use google chrome
My battery life has improved and things are marginally faster. But it is a crying shame that the nexus 6p, the htc 10, the moto z, and even samsung last devices (galaxy s6) are faster than the note 7 in the day to day.
It's ... unnerving
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Are you on exynos os snapdragon ?
gekkehenkie11 said:
Are you on exynos os snapdragon ?
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snapdragon
not as smooth as other phones that I own: LG G5, HUAWEI P9, NEXUS 6P. Kinda disappointed but the screen keeps me from returning it.
Syzygium said:
Very smooth scrolling on N930FD. (Exynos)
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Is there a way to get this phone version for Sprint in the US?
I have SM-N930F Exynos - super smooth scrolling and haven't seen any lag whatsoever!
my sm_n930FD lags or stutters on wen scrolls and some times on typing fast on apps like what's app. FD is exynos version
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not as smooth as other phones that I own: LG G5, HUAWEI P9, NEXUS 6P. Kinda disappointed but the screen keeps me from returning it.
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Can you please also state which variant of the note 7 you have rather than just say it's not smooth.
Thanks

Should I buy Tab S4 or not?

Basically, I have always been an Android user back to the early days when XDA was helping users to install Android on their Windows Mobile devices. I akways had devices like Nexus 5, 7, Tab S 8.4, etc. However currently I am terribly depressed with the tablet options out there. I'm not crazy about Samsung experience and apps. I have a Pixel 2 XL I'm pretty happy with.
I never liked Apple much due to the closed nature of their ecosystem. However I always envied their hardware and the simplicity and high performance. From what I've read, the soon to be replaced iPad pro processor A10x easily beats Samsung's shiny new Tab S4 processor Snapdragon 835. Lately, it seems like iOS has opened up a bit slightly... But still can't do all the things Android can do.
So my question is, based on my background... Do you think I would enjoy the Tab s4? For what reason did you choose to hand Samsung over so much money vs the tried and true iPad? I am hesitant to drop so much money on the same processor running on my phone from a year ago. What are your thoughts on the S4?
Also I would be buying the LTE Verizon version to use on TMobile. Does root work there too?
It's the same question I had, but I've always been an android user and in the end I took this tab, even if the latest ipad (not Pro) seems to be a bargain and even supports the pencil.
I can tell you the experience is very good, great battery, great screen, and also dex behaves very well (even if reviews say the opposite). The pen is very well implemented and when you get used to it, it's really a bonus, even if now you think you don't need it.
But I've never tried an ipad and probably it's wonderful, with better apps (they're expensive, but if you don't buy the pro you have a lot of money to spend for the apps).
Also keep in mind that the ipad can't wirelessly mirror the screen to a TV and can't read a Ntfs usb stick.
In the end I don't think you'll be disappointed whatever choice you'll take, it's just up to you to understand which tab better suits to your needs.
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I had a lot of doubts like you too. To be honest, I would probably not have bought it if not for the free upgrade to 256gb in my region. Regardless, it is a great tablet to me, beautiful, quite snappy (way way better than Tab S3) and has an awesome screen. Regarding Android apps, you should probably be aware too, most apps are going to say 'it's not optimised for your device' in the playstore but they are usable nevertheless.
DeX mode is really cute too, seeing it 'turns' into a pesudo mini laptop which may or may not be useful to you. This is part of the reason I bought it too to use as a partial laptop
Bottomline, Tab S4 is a much better buy for me compared to the Tab S3 which I bought for only slightly cheaper 1.5 yrs ago (only 32gb storage and laggy as hell!!).
Thanks guys. I am leaning towards getting the Tab S4 LTE because I want more freedom over the iPad.
How has the battery life been? Does anyone know if the LTE can get rooted same as the WiFi? I'm planning to buy Verizon version
I would not buy it, because of lack of fingerprint and most probably ****ty development
EugenStanis said:
I would not buy it, because of lack of fingerprint and most probably ****ty development
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That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?
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That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?
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First time i saw my S3 i was suprised how good it look, but some times after i was disappointed. Fingerprint is working like in 2015 flagships, performance is not as good as i expect, performance is poor (on stock it is extremely slow, on linege or treble roms little bit better but still laggy when compared to e.g my OnePlus 5T).
Only good things in this tablet is screen, and nothing else. I'am thinking about switching to Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 or Google Pixel C
Stay away from it if you're going to use it in portrait mode, it suffers from crooked/slanted scrolling on text heavy pages, really annoying.
Its awesome tablet. Almost have working twrp already
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Its awesome tablet. Almost have working twrp already
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Any idea if it will work on LTE? - TWRP / Root
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Any idea if it will work on LTE? - TWRP / Root
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I should work the same
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First time i saw my S3 i was suprised how good it look, but some times after i was disappointed. Fingerprint is working like in 2015 flagships, performance is not as good as i expect, performance is poor (on stock it is extremely slow, on linege or treble roms little bit better but still laggy when compared to e.g my OnePlus 5T).
Only good things in this tablet is screen, and nothing else. I'am thinking about switching to Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 or Google Pixel C
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Google pixel is even more ancient.
Where can you buy the xiaomi? Doesn't show up on Amazon
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Google pixel is even more ancient.
Where can you buy the xiaomi? Doesn't show up on Amazon
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Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest
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Thanks guys. I am leaning towards getting the Tab S4 LTE because I want more freedom over the iPad.
How has the battery life been? Does anyone know if the LTE can get rooted same as the WiFi? I'm planning to buy Verizon version
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That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?
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Battery life is great, I can get 12 hours SOT (no games, just surfing the Web and reading).
Development could be good, we have a snapdragon 835 which is quite supported. Anyway Samsung features are a great value for me (S Pen is very well implemented) and IMHO they are more important than getting 1 or 2 more releases of android. I have a Note 8.0 tablet with android 4.4.4 and it still works perfectly, I never needed to upgrade to LineageOS Nougat even if it was available.
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Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest
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I disagree with that the S4 is comparable and with further tweaking it will be even better. The pixel c was awesome and I loved it but too old now
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I disagree with that the S4 is comparable and with further tweaking it will be even better. The pixel c was awesome and I loved it but too old now
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Too Old but working better and faster. Even my Nvidia Shield Tablet was faster than Tab S3/S4
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Too Old but working better and faster. Even my Nvidia Shield Tablet was faster than Tab S3/S4
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You had the Tab S3 but it doesn't look like you have the Tab S4? Why are you so sure they are better than Tab S4?
I have both. Tab S3 is indeed crap but Tab S4 is a lot better.
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You had the Tab S3 but it doesn't look like you have the Tab S4? Why are you so sure they are better than Tab S4?
I have both. Tab S3 is indeed crap but Tab S4 is a lot better.
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I've tested S4 for 6 days, and not much changed for me. Lack of fingerprint scanner is disgusting, no more ram and only snapdragon 835. On terms of use, same problems like scrolling lag, etc.
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Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest
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Absolutely not. Pixel C features a Tegra chipset that is not quite very optimized for Android. Also, the Pixel C is a 3-year-old device, not recommended at all.
BarajaVLC said:
Absolutely not. Pixel C features a Tegra chipset that is not quite very optimized for Android. Also, the Pixel C is a 3-year-old device, not recommended at all.
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If you talk to me about optimization, look at S3/S4 performance. UI seems to be laggy, animations are not smooth. In normal use Pixel C seems to work faster, animations are snappy. I have tried Tab S3/S4 and Google Pixel C and i'am going to test Xiaomi mi pad 4. Now am disappointed

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