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First of all i take no credit for this discovery or process. If anyone wants credit for this information just MSG me with a reference and i will be more than happy to add you. However i looked around and the information was all scattered so i figured i'de add it all in one easy to follow post. Most of the info i found was thru youtube and a couple of my own added ideas.
This is a how to remove , separate , and replace a cracked
S3 screen from the digitizer by melting/softening the adhesive glue (in other words it is how to replace JUST THE GLASS)
Many people out there still say that the S3 's glass can not be separated from the digitizer and that the digitizer and glass but be bought "fused" together from OEM..this is not true. It can indeed be separated using the the process below and it will work just fine and be just as responsive as when you first bought the phone. Video Proof below.
PLEASE SEE THESE VIDEOS For screen removal from digitizer and Use as reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eneLvVe7DwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZuiCsAtThw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJXXKOl7Nu8
The screen/glass part u are replacing looks like this
(i know it doesn't look like it is glass but trust me it is glass, it is about as thin as 5 sheets of paper):
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video thanks to: marcustaz
This is how i replaced my screen and tools needed:
***Lots of Patience and carefulness *** (about 30 mins if u done before...about 60-90 mins if its your 1st time)
*** wear PROTECTIVE GOGGLES - EYE GLASSES (yes there is a HIGH POSSIBILITY that small glass shards may fly and glass in the eye is not fun)***
1) replacement screen - with no digitizer (exact pictures of what u need to buy are the pictures above..just match your color) ($25 USD aprox on Amazon - Cheaper on Ebay $18 USD) (The same screen fits all models just match the color...Samsung Galaxy S3 III T-mobile SGH-T999 / AT&T SGH-i747 / Verizon SCH-i535 / Sprint SPH-L710 / US Cellular SCH-R530 / GT-i9300)
2) exacto knife ($5 USD aprox)
3) heat gun ($20(harborfreight) for a cheapy....or $40 (homedepot) for a good one with adjustable heat)
***** HEAT IS CRITICAL, most people faill because they did not heat up the glass enough ( MUST BE around 180F)****
4) empty cereal box or cardboard calendar (or something similar that is comparable in sturdiness yet is "not too solid")
5) 90% rubbing alcohol ( $3.. make "damp" on a microfiber cloth or cotton ball (cotton-ball kinda makes a mess) removes any excess glue stuck to the digitizer)
6) microfiber cloth (available from .99 cent stores or dollar stores)
7) tweezers (.99 cent store ...or your moms/girlfriends/wife's beauty box..LoL)
OPTIONAL TOOLS BUT HELPS ALOT
*** an extra hand or two (1 or 2 more people helping is a big help)
*** laser thermometer (to make sure u do not overheat the phone, try to stay under 200F degrees with an average of about 180F degrees, slightly going over 200 does not hurt but i do not recommend)
*** thick leather gloves/welding gloves (prevents your hands from getting burned while someone else is heating the phone and maintaining the temp u can be easily removing the screen...at 180 degrees the glue and glass separate from the digitizer like BUTTER and the gloves protect you from getting burned by the heatgun!!!)
***Magnifying glass (to be able to make sure the glass fragments are completely removed from the digitizer so the new screen will sit flush)
*** thin latex/rubber gloves (when putting on the screen so there are no finger prints)
*** duck tape (hold glass together so it doesn't "fall apart" while removing)
Instructions on how i did it below:
Remove the battery , sim card, micro sdcard. Apply ductape or some kinda of good heat resistant tape to the top of the glass screen so the broken glass stays intact when removing. Put on your safety glasses/eye protection (believe me i highly recommend this regardless of how dorky you may look, if glass from the phone goes in your eye ...well you have been warned). Grab the exacto bladed and lightly apply pressure with it between the glass and the outer grey plastic trim and then outline the entire outer edge of the glass. Put on some heat resistant gloves (gloves that u wont feel the burn) Heat up your heatgun and heat the phones screen to around 180 Degrees Fahrenheit ...you can know the temp by using a laser thermometer (try not to go over 200 degrees). NOTE: U must remove the glass when its at around this temp, failure to do so will make it hard to remove the glass from the digitizer. Try to heat the entire phone evenly by using a "circular" or "side to side" type of motion when applying the heat. Find the outer edge of the glass and find a place in the corner to begin the removal. I recommend beginning on the top left side of the phone (where the S in SAMSUNG side of the corner) is at. Once the phone is heated to approx 180 degrees you can begin to lift the glass. (i do not recommend lifting in the middle of the screen or any "black part" of the screen as you can risk damaging the digitizer, the outer edge (where it is white/blue) is the safest spot to begin separation.) If you don't have access to a laser thermometer then you can risk it and just take your time till you notice the glass begins to "lift/separate" . Once you have a decent amount of the glass lifted (just enough to put the cardboard in) you can shove a piece of the cereal box inside and begin to use the cereal box to lift the rest of the glass. Continue this processes till the glass is all lifted and removed. When you start approaching the bottom of the phone where the button is at BE CAREFUL...try to go around the bottom and you will also notice 2 " touch ribbon light sensors"(look at the attachment pictures BELOW i labeled the light/ribbon sensor). They can removed from the glass using the heat gun and the exacto knife...it should lift right up and separate from the glass. Once u separate the ribbon your should be all done removing or close to done removing the glass from the digitizer. If by this point you haven't already removed the glass continue to remove till all the major pieces of glass is removed. Once the major pieces of glass are removed you can now put on some latex gloves and Remove the excess glass on the corners using the exacto knife and the tweezers. Carefully remove the small pieces of glass on the digitizer using a 90% alcohol LIGHTLY DAMPENED microfiber cloth. DO NOT APPLY HEAVY PRESSURE TO THE DIGITIZER when tiny glass is still on there (instead just kind of gently sweep it...using a new paint brush might even help) when removing the small glass fragment, NOTE that if you do apply too much pressure to the digitizer u risk the glass shards scratching or denting the digitizer!!! Once the glass is all removed and shards are gone you can now clean any fingerprints lint dust or oils using a dry microfiber cloth by gently applying LIGHT/SOFT pressure. Leave the glue on the outside edges of the phone and the bottom and top of the phone...just make sure the digitizer is spotless. Once everything is clean and the digitizer is spotless you can now install the screen. start from the bottom of the phone and proceed to put on the screen, make sure the "push" button is lined up and the line up the "light-sensor-ribbons buttons". the sensor ribbon buttons should just stick to the glass and line up with the screen part. Once the button is lined up you can now line up the rest of the screen and gently push down. The screen should be stuck into place by the existing glue on the outer edges. While holding the screen in place carefully put the battery in and turn on the device and make sure the buttons and screen and everything works properly and make sure the "lights" on the menu buttons work. Once you verify everything works and looks beautiful you can take the battery out one last time. Using the heatgun reheat the screen to melt the adhesive glue to the screen. Once the screen is heated back up to 180 degrees gently push on the glass and press for about 10 seconds and make sure to press in the outter edges of the glass where u left the glue. Let the phone cool off and you are good to go. Have fun using your S3!! This sounds fairly long and hard, but its not as hard as it sounds..its actually fairly easy and should take the average person about 50-70 mins first time. Experienced person about 20-40 mins.
i figure with the videos above you should be able to figure it out. Ill probably be adding more detailed info if this thread becomes popular. Good luck guys/gals
FAQS
Q1) How do i know if its just my glass screen and not the phone itself that's not working?
You will know if your phone screen lens cracked, but LCD display works. In other words you will know that its just the glass that's broken if your phone currently works perfectly fine and the touch screen works fine BUT the only thing wrong with the phone is the screen being physically cracked/scratched. If this is your case then the instructions above will work on replacing the glass.
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Thanks. You think one of these might make it easier to pull out the glass:
http://www.amazon.com/Aftermarket-Product-Professional-Vacuum-Suction/dp/B004ZX48ZQ/ref=pd_ybh_3
rtwhtever said:
Thanks. You think one of these might make it easier to pull out the glass:
http://www.amazon.com/Aftermarket-Product-Professional-Vacuum-Suction/dp/B004ZX48ZQ/ref=pd_ybh_3
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It might but I wouldn't try it... You would have to get the adhesive glue really soft and it may work, but the scary part is that if the adhesive isn't soft you risk damaging the digitizer using that tool. For me a cereal box worked great when separating it.
hey guys on my phone, where the glass is slowly coming off at the bottom right, you can see the bare screen, with glue residue. When heating it up, does the glass just come off. Also when you attach the new glass, can you not see the glue residue inbetween the screen and the glass? Here is an attached photo of my phones current state. It looks pretty bad, but the screen is fully functional. Any help is appreciated!
Sorry guys, I cannot post any links until i get 10 posts, i will post a pic as soon as i can
EDIT Here is the picture:
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3...1028142615.jpg
Thanks for the info
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cr1mson said:
hey guys on my phone, where the glass is slowly coming off at the bottom right, you can see the bare screen, with glue residue. When heating it up, does the glass just come off. Also when you attach the new glass, can you not see the glue residue inbetween the screen and the glass? Here is an attached photo of my phones current state. It looks pretty bad, but the screen is fully functional. Any help is appreciated!
Sorry guys, I cannot post any links until i get 10 posts, i will post a pic as soon as i can
EDIT Here is the picture:
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3...1028142615.jpg
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first of all the link to your picture doesn't work.
Now on to what u were asking....when heating it up the glass doesn't just "come off" or "peel off" or "fall off" .... you have to separate the glass from what you call "bare screen" (i assume u are talking about the digitizer) with a flat sturdy piece of cardboard (like a piece of a cereal box) or something similar. if heated around 180 degreee the glass should come off (separate from digitizer) very easily literally feels like cutting butter with cardboard.
you should not see any "glue residue" inbetween the glass and the screen..u are supposed to remove the glue "residue"/adhesive from the BLACK part of the screen using rubbing alcohol DAMP microfiber cloth. just remove it from the black screen area and leave the glue on the outer edges (where the white part of the glass is) so the new glass has something to stick to.
if u fix your pic or have any other questions maybe i can help u out more.
My digitizer doesn't work
After replacing the glass the touch screen doesn't work. Any ideas?
richardgiroux said:
After replacing the glass the touch screen doesn't work. Any ideas?
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u must have had a broken digitizer too or you have "adhesive glue" stuck in between the glass and the digitizer preventing the screen from sensing your touch. btw: if you have a broken digitizer you might as well just get a whole new phone as a digitizer is very expensive (around $200 USD) for the S3.
XeoNoX said:
u must have had a broken digitizer too or you have "adhesive glue" stuck in between the glass and the digitizer preventing the screen from sensing your touch. btw: if you have a broken digitizer you might as well just get a whole new phone as a digitizer is very expensive (around $200 USD) for the S3.
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hi there !!!
what you mean " broken digitizer " what is that..
i make it all like the video but my screen dont work ... what is that and where is that digi ??
thanx for your time
i buy this from e-bay
****.ebay.de/itm/SAMSUNG-GALAXY-S3-i9300-FRONT-GLAS-GLASS-DISPLAYGLAS-SCREEN-LENS-WERKZEUNG-Weis-/200851508159?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Oberschalen_Designfolien&hash=item2ec3aecbbf
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antaras said:
hi there !!!
what you mean " broken digitizer " what is that..
i make it all like the video but my screen dont work ... what is that and where is that digi ??
thanx for your time
i buy this from e-bay
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its hard to explain, but the digitizer is the next part directly behind the glass screen, normally if u buy the digitizer the glass screen comes with it. (however if u buy the glass screen it generally just comes with the glass screen and no digitizer) <--- i hope this makes sense
i should have taken a picture of mine when i had it apart. the closest picture i could find was this one below that has BOTH the SCREEN & the DIGITIZER, most people just need the glass screen. However if your screen doesnt sense your touches then u need the digitizer too.
http://i.imgur.com/wtq3v.jpg
the bare digitizer by iteself looks almost like a LCD touch screen but i couldnt find a picture of one online.
i understand now what is .. i see the foto and one video ..
so i put the battery i turn on my mobile and if i touch the screen ( lsd ) without the front glass must be ok normaly but my doesnt make nothing i put the glass in front of the screen without a glue exactly like the video but my touch dont work again ..
antaras said:
i understand now what is .. i see the foto and one video ..
so i put the battery i turn on my mobile and if i touch the screen ( lsd ) without the front glass must be ok normaly but my doesnt make nothing i put the glass in front of the screen without a glue exactly like the video but my touch dont work again ..
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sorry but your english translation is not making sense to me...pretty much if the touchscreen still works then all u need is the glass, if your touchscreen doesn't work then u need the digitizer and the glass
XeoNoX said:
sorry but your english translation is not making sense to me...pretty much if the touchscreen still works then all u need is the glass, if your touchscreen doesn't work then u need the digitizer and the glass
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my question is: is there affect without having that special clear glue in the middle of screen when put back together?
jay_droid said:
my question is: is there affect without having that special clear glue in the middle of screen when put back together?
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the touchscreen will work just fine without the "glue" (special adhesive), i actually removed it and cleaned it all up and just left some of it on the outter edge, u just have to make sure there is a little bit of that "glue /' residue" around the OUTER EDGE of the glass (the outer edge behind the white/blue/red part of the glass) to make sure the glass STICKS to the phone.
XeoNoX said:
the touchscreen will work just fine without the "glue" (special adhesive), i actually removed it and cleaned it all up and just left some of it on the outter edge, u just have to make sure there is a little bit of that "glue /' residue" around the OUTER EDGE of the glass (the outer edge behind the white/blue/red part of the glass) to make sure the glass STICKS to the phone.
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And lastly, you have now exactly the same feeling and look as original? i.e screen is flush to bezel, no cracking noises, no evident spacing in between glass and digitizer?
how long has it been since install now?
(sorry for the bombardment of questions)
This is useful to my interest....hmmmm yes yes yes it is....
I'm gonna swap parts of my gay-blue T999 to the much cooler black parts!
Heres my glass I replaced today. it wasnt easy and it wasn't too difficult. I been fixing phones for a while so take your time if you Want To replace your glass. and make sure you heat up the glass real good. It helps a lot. And make sure you clean up the residue left from the glue real good. if you don't your phones screen won't work correctly.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
jrocks213 said:
Heres my glass I replaced today. it wasnt easy and it wasn't too difficult. I been fixing phones for a while so take your time if you Want To replace your glass. and make sure you heat up the glass real good. It helps a lot. And make sure you clean up the residue left from the glue real good. if you don't your phones screen won't work correctly.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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How do you set the new screen? Do I need to buy double sided LCD tape?
I see you got it out in one piece. Did you tape it down before heating?
uoY_redruM said:
How do you set the new screen? Do I need to buy double sided LCD tape?
I see you got it out in one piece. Did you tape it down before heating?
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I used reg clear tape on the screen to make sure it stayed in one piece. And I also had double sided tape they sell for the screens itself. I cut diff shapes and to make sure the screen stayed on. Where you see the clamps is where I put the tape to make sure it stays on.
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jrocks213 said:
I used reg clear tape on the screen to make sure it stayed in one piece. And I also had double sided tape they sell for the screens itself. I cut diff shapes and to make sure the screen stayed on. Where you see the clamps is where I put the tape to make sure it stays on.
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So you need tape then right? There's no way to stick it with existing? I just want to make sure I'm prepared lol.
I'd like to warn some about damage done to my phone during the installation of the SGFresh InvisShield. My phone was permanently damaged during installation. LOCA leaked into the speaker grills and damaged the microphone. It works but is a noticeably muffled. Also, either alcohol used for clean up or the LOCA messed up the finish on the back of the phone. It's kind of matte and lost some luster.
Here's what happened:
I followed the installation instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the phone and I ended up with several bubbles. So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
Edit: If you decide to purchase this screen protector, wpy's suggestion to cover the speakers with tape is a very good idea.
benpage said:
I highly recommend that people avoid this product. I followed the instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the place and I ended up with several bubbles.
So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
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When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).
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When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).
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I really appreciate the thoughtful response, but I won't be giving this product a second chance. It nearly ruined my microphone. I spent the last hour letting rubbing alcohol soak in the bottom speaker and then blowing it out with canned air. People can sort of hear me now. I'm going to clean it a few more times and hope for the best.
I did 2 installs of the sgfresh invisShield. First one i installed it misaligned with the front facing camera and had a glare when using the front facing camera so i did a fresh install with a 2nd glass panelA. Second install went well and i am satisfied with their product, I too was very concerned with the loca flowing inside the front speakers so before both install i taped the front speaker with clear 3m tape. taped just to the very edge of the speaker and it prevented the loca to flow inside the speakers. The loca does stings when in contact with skin and face so be carefull. Excess loca will leak on the sides so i place the phone on a few sheets of paper table napkins to collect the excess loca as it flows out of the sides then I cured each end for 20 seconeds then cleaned the phone sides with wipes and alcohol. after cleaning i cure again for a couple of minutes. Also i used maybe 1 + 1/4 of the provided loca my reasoning was a bit more is better than it not reaching the edges of the glass. Also as a tip to removed the air bubbles on the edges lift gently pass the bubble then apply a bit of pressure when pressing down so that the bubble will be pushed out. it seem if you do it too gently the bubble just stays in place. Hope this help. i am satisfied with the product.
I love my invisishield. Just followed the video instructions.
No loca in speakers.
Bubbles were removed easily during installation by using the method described.
Sorry to hear you had so many challenges
No problem here, installation went fine on the first try.
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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luigidk said:
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.
That sucks that the LOCA leaked all over the speakers. Mine did not go into the speakers until I tried fixing a bubble. Even then I covered it up with a dust removal sticker and cured it and then cleaned it with some alcohol and a toothbrush (did not pour alcohol on to the speaker. Just on the toothbrush and then lightly brushed). Product is great though!
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Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?
luigidk said:
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?
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My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.
benpage said:
I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.
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All the info here is already in the original thread and also in the installation manual videos on youtube.
EDIT: looks like your thread was moved to the original thread.
I've done Whitestone loca and just ordered the sgfreshidea as Whitestones warranty is a joke. The kit I got from white stone had stickers to cover speaker grills and sponges to absorb any run off on the edges.. I'm not sure what sgfreshidea kit comes with as I have not received it yet. But to anyone else. Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.
letrain02 said:
Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.
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Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.
butterbeanmash said:
Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.
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The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.
How i fixed my phone from the same problem.
So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!
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So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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letrain02 said:
The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.
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You use masking tape or the usual Scotch tape (probably any normal consumer level tape would work). I'm surprised no one thought of covering up the speakers for the install.
$45 on Amazon
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?
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Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?
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Tried em both. No LOCA leakage whatsoever. Plus u get tabs to cover the grills as a precaution. The kit makes installation a breeze. The only thing u need to do is properly clean the screen. With SG the protector doesn't come with protective film. So u have to clean that also. Making the chance of getting particles on the screen and thus wrecking the install way higher and alot more stressful. With the WStone Once put on. U don't even know it's there. Clear and fingerprint resistant like the phone screen. Whitestone is the one to get.
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Hello all!
First time posting in a while, so forgive me if I'm a bit rusty. I just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ yesterday, and my amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector today, so I thought I'd write up a little review. Sorry for no pics, but I was busy installing and trying to keep things dust-free
I've used Whitestone in the past but was disappointed with both my Note 8 and 9 installs, primarily because of the LOCA spiderwebbing on the edges. I figured I'd give another brand a shot, so I went searching here and found the amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector. A quick trip over to Amazon, and $40 later (for a full kit including *2* protectors) and here we are!
PACKAGING: The box is nice - wider and flatter than the WS product. It's clean and simple, but professional looking. Plus their website and install video are well done also. Inside the outer box are three smaller boxes. The largest contains the plastic frame, screen protectors, and wipes (I think). The medium size box contains the UV light and the MicroUSB cable. It appears to be identical to the WS product, but I don't know this for a fact, so take that for what it's worth. The smallest box contains the LOCA (2 tubes), extra absorption pads, plastic pin, tabs to place over the speaker, a bubble level, and a weight. Everything you need comes in this kit, including plenty of wet and dry wipes, microfiber cloths, and dust removal stickers. On the packaging is a QR code to go to the install video.
PRODUCT: Everything seems to be on the same quality scale as the WS product, with a few minor changes - 1) there is no LOCA applicator "bridge", you have to aim and dribble the solution by hand, 2) the pin is different - there's no more tilting the entire phone to move the liquid into position - the pin is angled and sets the glass down at an angle, and 3) the "fingerprint" weight (more on this later). Otherwise, if you've done the WS before, this isn't significantly different.
INSTALLATION: **REMINDER** REMOVE the factory plastic screen protector and clean your screen THOROUGHLY before proceeding! I ALMOST forgot, which would have been a disaster! I watched the video twice and didn't see any mention of this, so amFilm, here's a tip for you Anyway, installation is straightforward -put the little feet on the bottom of the phone to bring it flush with the pins inside, make sure the screen is 100% clean, install the sticker over the speaker, apply the liquid (making sure to absorb any "splatter" before proceeding!), peel the protective film off the glass, place it, and pull the pin. Once the liquid starts to spread, put the weight where the fingerprint sensor is and let it settle and "ooze" for 3-ish minutes. (NOTE - it's hard to locate the fingerprint scanner, so you might want to mark the frame in advance with a Sharpie (another tip for amFilm - marking that plastic with some kind of raised bumps or hash marks might be a good idea, or maybe a film for on top of the glass that marks where to place it - just a thought). After that, it's bake-time under the UV light, then you're done.
RESULTS: I'm very impressed so far. The glass appears to be nice and clear, and I can't even see the little "spots" in the corners others mentioned. I lucked out this time and no dust specs at all. No bubbles, etc. the fingerprint scanner appears to be working fine, although I haven't re-registered anything. It DOES require a little extra "umph" to scan, but that's not a big deal. Part of that could be me getting used to an in-screen scanner. There was minimal over-oozing, and the pre-installed pads absorbed everything fine. Barely needed a wipedown afterward.
FITMENT: There appears to be no flaws in placement using the guide, or in the fitment of the glass. It sits flat, and lines up exactly where it should. The cutout for the front-facing camera is exactly where it should be, and it's not overly-exaggerated in size. The edges leave plenty of room for putting the phone in a case (I've tried 4 so far, all fit without touching the glass edge, so there's no worry about case push on the glue). The bottom edge is just a tad bit short, maybe a 1/16", but that could be allowing for larger cases (I don't use the big bulky ones, so IDK).
OVERALL ASSESSMENT: 4.5/5 Stars - Great product, especially for the price. I'll keep you posted on long-term wear & quality, but for now, I'd say it's a great deal versus the competition.
Thanks for the feedback, just got my note 10 plus and am trying to filter out the paid/promo reviews vs legit ones.
I may go this route with amfilm as well. i bought the tech matte clear case, so i hope it fits well within it without popping off.
hows your experience after putting it in a case?
I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
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I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
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Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
joogle said:
Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
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The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
entropism said:
The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
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If you turn sensitivity on, does that resolve the fingerprint issue?
No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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The September update includes improved finger printer recognition.
Ok I decided to go ahead and buy the amfilm note 10 plus screen protector from Amazon. Watched their video and then another on Youtube like twice. I think I got the install right, the whole weight placing situation is a guesstimate, if they are reading this thread - put something on the tray to take the guessing out of the process, like a stick with a weight so it stays in one spot.
Also, the glue stick - be careful when lifting it to make sure no drop falls out - i didnt put the black cap back on - saw an extra few big drops fall on my desk - no biggie - but if it was on the screen would have been a hassle.
then the UV light shuts off at 45 seconds - their last instruction is to keep it lit for 60 seconds - they should probably adjust it - again not a big issue.
in terms of quality of the screen protector - looks good - its a thin piece of glass - hopefully it protects the screen. the fingerprint sensor - its been a hit/miss kind of. i added my same thumb print twice, sometimes it has to read directly in the middle of the thumb, othertimes i feel like i have to press harder. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor before the screen protector so don't know if its just the way it is.
I would rate this like 3.5 / 5 -- i think tempered glass is solid, the fingerprint sensor can be annoying, its not really that smooth like if you slightly put your finger/thumb on it that it will open. like literally it won't take it on first try, on second or third try it will take - that is the most annoying part about it.
the install process was decent, as long as you watch the videos first - its straight forward.
price wise its sucky - i wish they would sell this for $20 - even with just one screen protector. $40 is steep, replacement protectors they can probably price between $7 to $10 i feel.
By the way this is the same UV type device used to cure fingernail paint - lol - your household may already have one.
I don't have the Whitestone to compare to. But I can say man the Samsung film screen protector is solid, used it for few days, even when taking it off it was on perfectly. I kind of miss it but i think tempered glass will offer more protection on a fall.
Pictures, please.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VKHMK9J/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_2oX0DbYMHRS0A
I've installed two of these protectors on a note 10 + and a note 10. I did have the issue with the frame cracking with the note 10+ but the company has since fixed that issue.
I've used WDG for a few years now and this one has exceeded my expectations and is better than Whitestone.
The installation is simple and comes with a weighted cylinder that's used when you're curing the glass with the UV light. I've had zero issues with the finger scanner as well as my daughter on her note 10. I actually put the cylinder on while the glue was spreading. I can actually see a circle where the finger print scanner is at and I think this is a recipe for success. I've installed these just after release and they still look brand new. Scanner works great! I can provide forage if anyone is interested. The price is great for getting two in the box. I highly recommend!
I'm new to in-screen fingerprint scanners. I've had this S20 for less than one week and miss the back of the phone scanner of my previous phone. Maybe in time I'll be able to reliably find the scanner without looking at the screen. Do long time users of this sensor eventually develop muscle memory to reliably find the it?
I've found a flawed, low tech method to unlock the phone without looking at the screen. I put a small piece of clear tape on the screen centered on the fingerprint scanner, see attached photo.
After finding the tape with my thumb I need to lift my thumb and put it right back down. I was having a high rate of success unlocking the screen this way. Unfortunately putting the phone in my pocket rubbed off the tape. I cleaned the screen protector (factory installed one) and reapplied the tape but it still came off in my pocket.
Just having the tape there for about 30 minutes of unlocking seemed to help train my thumb. Even after losing the tape I had about a 60% success rate in unlocking the screen without looking at it. I wouldn't call 60% acceptable but it's better than I was achieving before.
Maybe someone has a suggestion for a better method? Better tape? A small drop of super glue or some other adhesive? Maybe use this tape method short term to train my thumb to find the sensor? Something else? Maybe someone will eventually develop a screen protector with a subtle dimple or divot.
The tile says it all.
This: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09KC72DWF
Work with the FP scanner, without the dot glue and is tempered glass.
I f***up and even though I used the tape, got glue in my speakers. It was a pain in the @$$ to take out and I had to use a sewing needle once it cured. So be careful!
Otherwise, the install was easy.
Also, "Currently unavailable" unfortunately. But thank you.
mkhcb said:
The tile says it all.
This: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09KC72DWF
Work with the FP scanner, without the dot glue and is tempered glass.
I f***up and even though I used the tape, got glue in my speakers. It was a pain in the @$$ to take out and I had to use a sewing needle once it cured. So be careful!
Otherwise, the install was easy.
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What do you mean by "dot glue"?
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What do you mean by "dot glue"?
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Some glass protectors have a spot where the fingerprint reader is located to improve responsiveness, so the rest of the protector is "floating" over the screen, but at that position, it sticks. It may work, but it's ugly as f*** and completely breaks the apparel of the phone. I guess for what he describes this one comes with the LOCA bottle you have to pour over the screen and then cure with the UV light.
Robdyx said:
Some glass protectors have a spot where the fingerprint reader is located to improve responsiveness, so the rest of the protector is "floating" over the screen, but at that position, it sticks. It may work, but it's ugly as f*** and completely breaks the apparel of the phone. I guess for what he describes this one comes with the LOCA bottle you have to pour over the screen and then cure with the UV light.
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Oh I've seen those but they where mostly made to deal with the issue of ultrasonic fp sensors. Didn't know they made them for optical sensors, I guess trying to help with the P6 sub par sensor. And yeah they look ugly af
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Oh I've seen those but they where mostly made to deal with the issue of ultrasonic fp sensors. Didn't know they made them for optical sensors, I guess trying to help with the P6 sub par sensor. And yeah they look ugly af
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For what it's worth, my P6P in-screen optical fingerprint reader works perfectly for me, and my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+'s in-screen ultrasonic fingerprint reader was pretty terrible.
Honestly, I've not had any issue with the FP reader, coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro I feel it even quicker than there, so I don't quite get all the hassle.
BTW, reading the good comments from the Mocolo glass protectors I just ordered one, let´s see when I apply it if the FP reader keeps working as intended.
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Some glass protectors have a spot where the fingerprint reader is located to improve responsiveness, so the rest of the protector is "floating" over the screen, but at that position, it sticks. It may work, but it's ugly as f*** and completely breaks the apparel of the phone. I guess for what he describes this one comes with the LOCA bottle you have to pour over the screen and then cure with the UV light.
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This is correct.
My FP scanner works amazing well. Way better than the OP 7 Pro on my parent's phone.
This screen protector was worth the hassle it took to install.
mkhcb said:
The tile says it all.
This: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09KC72DWF
Work with the FP scanner, without the dot glue and is tempered glass.
I f***up and even though I used the tape, got glue in my speakers. It was a pain in the @$$ to take out and I had to use a sewing needle once it cured. So be careful!
Otherwise, the install was easy.
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I tried the UV glue glass. And glue went in to my speaker too, then the volume of my upper speaker become very low. When I make phone calls I cannot hear anything. I tried all the method but cannot sovle it. So I have no way but to disamble the screen and clean inside. Now it's better but I can tell it's not like before. I guess there are still some UV glue block the outlet of upper speaker. I figure out if you want to disamble the upper speaker and clean the outlet you need to remove the battery and main board first, which is not easy so I gave up.
Btw I did tape the speaker but UV glue went in. And I also find out once glue flow in to gap between screen and frame , after you UV light it , it get hard and swollen which will make the gap larger.
Although tempered glass feels really good and has no impact on FP sensor, I just went back to film screen protector after this terrible experience
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I tried the UV glue glass. And glue went in to my speaker too, then the volume of my upper speaker become very low. When I make phone calls I cannot hear anything. I tried all the method but cannot sovle it. So I have no way but to disamble the screen and clean inside. Now it's better but I can tell it's not like before. I guess there are still some UV glue block the outlet of upper speaker. I figure out if you want to disamble the upper speaker and clean the outlet you need to remove the battery and main board first, which is not easy so I gave up.
Btw I did tape the speaker but UV glue went in. And I also find out once glue flow in to gap between screen and frame , after you UV light it , it get hard and swollen which will make the gap larger.
Although tempered glass feels really good and has no impact on FP sensor, I just went back to film screen protector after this terrible experience
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Youve got to be very,very careful with the UV glue and use a good strong tape to cover all the openings. I runied my Oneplus 8 Pro because of the glue but my P6P install was good.
Yes. The tempered glass protector I have only leave me with around 1 mm between the glass edge and the upper speaker slot. So it's impossible for me the apply a tape cover the speaker effectively.
TimbauKing said:
I tried the UV glue glass. And glue went in to my speaker too, then the volume of my upper speaker become very low. When I make phone calls I cannot hear anything. I tried all the method but cannot sovle it. So I have no way but to disamble the screen and clean inside. Now it's better but I can tell it's not like before. I guess there are still some UV glue block the outlet of upper speaker. I figure out if you want to disamble the upper speaker and clean the outlet you need to remove the battery and main board first, which is not easy so I gave up.
Btw I did tape the speaker but UV glue went in. And I also find out once glue flow in to gap between screen and frame , after you UV light it , it get hard and swollen which will make the gap larger.
Although tempered glass feels really good and has no impact on FP sensor, I just went back to film screen protector after this terrible experience
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I used a sewing needle to get under the glue and pull it out. Don't worry, the speaker gills are kinda deep. That said, be careful and don't just ignore that's the speaker is there lol.