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[Q] Digitizer won't function properly after repair(shorting with LCD)

So I recently replaced both the lcd and the digitizer(bought separately from ebay).
I tested the phone every step of the reassembly, and everything was working fine until I put the whole thing inside the back cover. That was when the digitizer, for some reason(mainly that I didn't apply any additional glue), popped off.
And then I noticed that it won't work if I put it back in, but would work if I pull it up and away from the phone!
I have taken the whole thing apart, and while testing, I noticed that the digitizer won't work if it's on the lcd. I placed a piece of see-through plastic in between, and it is functional even when resting on the lcd. I could pull the plastic half way down the screen and it would still work but after that I can't be sure.
So what can I do, apart from ordering a new lcd/digitizer assembly? Can I place tape on the sides of the digitizer?
Thanks in advance

Alright so I have a simular problem right now. I think its the glue/adhesive isnt working properly. Try a heatgun or hair-dryer to heat up the screen enough to activate the adhesive and add weight to the glass until the glue dries.

Tw1tchy said:
Alright so I have a simular problem right now. I think its the glue/adhesive isnt working properly. Try a heatgun or hair-dryer to heat up the screen enough to activate the adhesive and add weight to the glass until the glue dries.
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I don't see any adhesive on neither of them! But even if they were heat activated, how are you supposed to line them up? there are no edges or lines for the lcd's placement on the digitizer!
I would try putting them inside the chassis and do it then but I've put quite a lot of very strong glue on there and I'm pretty sure that they won't come off undamaged! So I need to be sure before I put them back in!
You try that and let me know how it turns out :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

david_12121 said:
I don't see any adhesive on neither of them! But even if they were heat activated, how are you supposed to line them up? there are no edges or lines for the lcd's placement on the digitizer!
I would try putting them inside the chassis and do it then but I've put quite a lot of very strong glue on there and I'm pretty sure that they won't come off undamaged! So I need to be sure before I put them back in!
You try that and let me know how it turns out :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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You were supposed to apply adhesive strips to connect the digitizer to the LCD
http://www.amazon.com/Adhesive-Sticker-Digitizer-Supersonic-Incredible/dp/B004WIQW3U

Tw1tchy said:
You were supposed to apply adhesive strips to connect the digitizer to the LCD
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The lcd doesn't have an edge to glue something to.
I put everything inside and it's working now! I have a contacting area in the middle of the screen but it is what it is.
The screen is functional and that's all I care about
Thanks anyway
David

david_12121 said:
The lcd doesn't have an edge to glue something to.
I put everything inside and it's working now! I have a contacting area in the middle of the screen but it is what it is.
The screen is functional and that's all I care about
Thanks anyway
David
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I would recommend appling the adhesive stips. they are only 2mm wide so you can easily apply it to the bezel of the glass digitizer. If your LCD isnt sitting properly between the inner housing and the digitizer it could damage the actual LCD this time.

[Short Review]Recommended Fully Adhere - Tempered Glass

Hi all,
We all know how hard it is to find a good Tempered glass for a smartphone with curving edge display,
That also the case with our Pixel 2 XL
Luckily, finally i managed to found tempered glass that has full adhesive, case friendly, and doesn't break our bank account, :laugh:
Here's the product : Tempered Glass for Google Pixel 2XL Screen Protector FULL GLUE Case Friendly Premium Screen Glass Protector For Google Pixel2XL
http://s.aliexpress.com/qqYVbYFZ?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard
(from AliExpress Android)
Price : $11.77 include free shipping,
It took week till it arrive to my door. Item shipped from Hongkong, am living in Indonesia
Packaging : its good and safe. Tempered glass placed inside a sterofoam box .
Installation : Now, this is the tricky part, although it has full adhesive, the installation wont go as simple as installing other (ex iPhone) full adhesive TG. It (the adhesive) tends to spread unevenly causing bubble.
The trick is to go from the corner, while keep the other corner floating, press the glass with two or more finger ensuring no bubble appear in the process.
It will take sometimes till you get it right with zero bubble,
But the result is rewarding. It perfectly fit, and can be used with cases as well. I use it with original google fabric case.
Check some pictures bellow :

Pictures with screen on and on a straight angle?

scottjal said:
Pictures with screen on and on a straight angle?
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Like this ?

scottjal said:
Pictures with screen on and on a straight angle?
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Sorry, forgot to turn off the portrait mode

Yes. Doesn't look like it cuts off the edges too badly. What I was waiting on but not sure I want to deal with Ali.

scottjal said:
Yes. Doesn't look like it cuts off the edges too badly. What I was waiting on but not sure I want to deal with Ali.
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It was quite gambling for me as well, lol,
But since i have no other option available in my country, u guess i have nothing to lose for 12 bucks.
Now am waiting a case to arrive

Looks good. I just don't understand why they make the top and bottom black instead of clear if it is full adhesive.

I'm guessing this is the same product as HeroShield. Looks the same. My HeroShield should arrive in a few weeks, so we'll see.

Does it have a cut out for the proximity sensor? I don't mean just a transparent window, proper gap/no glass bit over the sensor. I can't see from the photos

how is the screen feel and oleophobic coating? Does the finger glide eaily on the screen?

kyacrash said:
Looks good. I just don't understand why they make the top and bottom black instead of clear if it is full adhesive.
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Its because although the adhesive on the display area is full, there's lil gap on the edge area where it doesn't have the adhesive, i guess due to the curve, it still not possible to create fully transparent glass protector with full adhesive. I never seen one for popular phone like iphone either. All iphone x glass protector has coloring as well.
The only real transparent protector with full adhesive is whitestone probably, but thats using low viscosity loca to begin with, so its different story, not to mention the skyhigh price.
mkouk said:
Does it have a cut out for the proximity sensor? I don't mean just a transparent window, proper gap/no glass bit over the sensor. I can't see from the photos
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It doesn't. It have a transparent window with adhesive under . It stick perfectly though, thus no interference to the proximity function. I try make a call and place finger over the sensor, it work normally
Mikulec said:
how is the screen feel and oleophobic coating? Does the finger glide eaily on the screen?
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Nothing extraordinary regarding the coating i guess. Finger glide nicely just like on original screen. But it collecting fingerprint overtime. (Am one of those guy who have wet hand all the time though, so my experience with fingerprint might be severe than how it should) :silly:

ordered! hope it will arrive soon!
btw do you have to tear it out to re position it when you are applying on the screen?

bradputt said:
ordered! hope it will arrive soon!
btw do you have to tear it out to re position it when you are applying on the screen?
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You need to lift it off if you already stick large area of it prior to reposition,
Positioning is quite easy though, the harder part is to push the glass slow and even.

I'd almost be interested, but I try to stay away from protectors that cover the proximity sensor. I know it works sometimes, I've just been bitten by it too many times on phones where it causes issues.

Here's HeroShield's install video. Seems like they include a squeegee with theirs to help with the bubbles.
Mine comes today, so I'll see what it's like too.

ilal2ielli said:
Here's HeroShield's install video. Seems like they include a squeegee with theirs to help with the bubbles.
Mine comes today, so I'll see what it's like too.
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These look interesting. I am with the previous poster about the prox sensor cut out. Please share your experience when you get it.

kiru said:
These look interesting. I am with the previous poster about the prox sensor cut out. Please share your experience when you get it.
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Can see from the video that it has glass covering the sensor, so it will be hit or miss. Some will have no issues with the sensor. Others will.
Mine will be here in a few weeks, so I'll see then too.

Hi OP... Are you able to post some picts of the top and bottom edge of the phone? Or a pict that can somehow show the gap of the side of the protector to where it meets the screen. Just curious to see if there is a slight gap as there is no adhesive there. Since I go case less, I am afraid I will always crack the glass because of this gap. Thanks in advance!

Something like this ?

Those picts are good!!! thanks!!!

Installing the SGFresh InvisShield - LOCA in speakers

I'd like to warn some about damage done to my phone during the installation of the SGFresh InvisShield. My phone was permanently damaged during installation. LOCA leaked into the speaker grills and damaged the microphone. It works but is a noticeably muffled. Also, either alcohol used for clean up or the LOCA messed up the finish on the back of the phone. It's kind of matte and lost some luster.
Here's what happened:
I followed the installation instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the phone and I ended up with several bubbles. So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
Edit: If you decide to purchase this screen protector, wpy's suggestion to cover the speakers with tape is a very good idea.

benpage said:
I highly recommend that people avoid this product. I followed the instructions perfectly, but LOCA leaked out all over the place and I ended up with several bubbles.
So I followed troubleshooting steps to remove bubbles (wrap one end and pry up the protector on the other). This just resulted in the bubbles moving to the middle of the screen and staying intact. Worse when I unwrapped the end, the LOCA had leaking into the speaker grill. Since, I refused to cure the LOCA inside the speaker grill, I had no choice but to remove the protector the clean out the grill. Removing the protector with wet LOCA, means the LOCA is free to leak all over the device. I had to thoroughly clean my phone with with rubbing alcohol. The back plastic looks pretty bad now. I think the solvent in the LOCA jacked it up.
In spite of that, I tried again with the second LOCA application (they include two) and had the same experience. I think the amount of LOCA they sent me was simply too much. On top of that the LOCA burns your skin. The LOCA containers have a little stopper in them that has to be removed with your fingernail. I have red burns on the tips of my fingers and I threw away $52 (including shipping).
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When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).

jonstrong said:
When the installation works, it really is nice. I've seen some finished installs that look great, so it does seem possible. But I'm beginning to think that it may be a combination of skill and luck to wind up with a "perfect" installation. I've found the company, as represented here by whiteangelcl, seems to make every effort to be supportive and responsive to any issues that are reported. Whiteangelcl has gone out of the way to provide free replacements when people have reported problems, and has been quick to respond to questions and comments. It's really rare to experience this level of customer support, and I for one really appreciate it.
Getting a tempered glass screen protector on the P2XL has certainly proven to be a challenge. This seems to be due to the phone's screen design, curved at the top and bottom as well as both sides -- as a result, TGSP's that attempt to span all four curved edges run into issues, with lifting, bubbles, etc, unless the placement is exactly right during installation. It seems that 99+ % of the protectors sold for this phone are garbage, with only the two available LOCA installed protectors being realistic tempered glass options: the InvisShield, and the Whitestone Dome Glass. The first provides greater coverage that conforms to overall screen design, and comes with much better customer support -- but it's typically difficult to install; the second is smaller with less screen coverage, installs more easily, but is more expensive, and customer support is not reputed to be anywhere near what you get with InvisShield.
I like the idea of the InvisShield, but I'm not having good luck installing it. I've tried a couple of times, and will make one more attempt, after which I may just give up and either go with the Whitestone Dome product, or skip using a screen protector altogether.
If you have the patience, I would reach out to whiteangelcl and ask for help: truly responsive, with an honest and earnest attempt to provide excellent customer service. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. I suggest this could be a better approach than simply bashing the product: the concept is excellent, the product is being improved in real time, and you'll get good support. I agree that prospective customers go into this with eyes open as it could be a challenge. But I wouldn't necessarily assume that a single bad experience with an install is the end of the road for this.
Jon
EDIT: BTW - you can clean the LOCA out of the speaker grill(s). Moisten a q-tip with some rubbing alcohol (I use 91%), and carefully swab it back and forth over the clogged speaker grill. You can use a wooden toothpick to drag across that LOCA after doing that -- but be VERY gentle and do NOT press inward, or you'll damage the speaker grill. But a gentle swiping / very light scraping will eventually remove the LOCA if you pre-soften it with the alcohol. Be sure to blot off any excess alcohol pretty quickly so it doesn't attack the rest of the LOCA under the edge of the screen protector. It takes a bit of patience, but you can clean out the speaker grill so they're pretty much like new with alcohol, q-tip and wooden toothpick (and remember to be gentle!!!).
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I really appreciate the thoughtful response, but I won't be giving this product a second chance. It nearly ruined my microphone. I spent the last hour letting rubbing alcohol soak in the bottom speaker and then blowing it out with canned air. People can sort of hear me now. I'm going to clean it a few more times and hope for the best.

I did 2 installs of the sgfresh invisShield. First one i installed it misaligned with the front facing camera and had a glare when using the front facing camera so i did a fresh install with a 2nd glass panelA. Second install went well and i am satisfied with their product, I too was very concerned with the loca flowing inside the front speakers so before both install i taped the front speaker with clear 3m tape. taped just to the very edge of the speaker and it prevented the loca to flow inside the speakers. The loca does stings when in contact with skin and face so be carefull. Excess loca will leak on the sides so i place the phone on a few sheets of paper table napkins to collect the excess loca as it flows out of the sides then I cured each end for 20 seconeds then cleaned the phone sides with wipes and alcohol. after cleaning i cure again for a couple of minutes. Also i used maybe 1 + 1/4 of the provided loca my reasoning was a bit more is better than it not reaching the edges of the glass. Also as a tip to removed the air bubbles on the edges lift gently pass the bubble then apply a bit of pressure when pressing down so that the bubble will be pushed out. it seem if you do it too gently the bubble just stays in place. Hope this help. i am satisfied with the product.

I love my invisishield. Just followed the video instructions.
No loca in speakers.
Bubbles were removed easily during installation by using the method described.
Sorry to hear you had so many challenges

No problem here, installation went fine on the first try.

Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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luigidk said:
Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.

That sucks that the LOCA leaked all over the speakers. Mine did not go into the speakers until I tried fixing a bubble. Even then I covered it up with a dust removal sticker and cured it and then cleaned it with some alcohol and a toothbrush (did not pour alcohol on to the speaker. Just on the toothbrush and then lightly brushed). Product is great though!

jonstrong said:
Personally I don't think it's rude or inaccurate - the post just reflects one person's experience and opinion. Others here may have similar experience, or different / better experience - and are free to share their opinions as well. I think a site like this would lose credibility if it were to filter out anyone's negative experiences, even if other folks have positive experiences with the same products or services. If somebody is rude, lies, or is disrespectful that's a problem (IMHO), but this is simply a matter of people sharing their own experiences.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?

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Maybe such a deflamatory post should be moderated and removed.
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I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
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On the other hand, there is already a thread about this screen protector. Why not to post it there? Why the need to make it so much more visible by screating new thread?
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My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.

benpage said:
I'm not sure if you meant defamatory or inflammatory. My post isn't defamatory. I only described my experiences.
I can sort of see how the title could be taken as inflammatory. I changed the title and tweaked the first paragraph based on your feedback.
My phone was permanently damaged during installation. My microphone works but is a noticeably muffled. My intention was to make sure people know this is a real risk. I didn't want the warning lost in a thread with 600 messages. There have been some very good replies to this thread. It now has good information on how to avoid this problem and how to recover from it. I think this thread could end up being very helpful to some people.
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All the info here is already in the original thread and also in the installation manual videos on youtube.
EDIT: looks like your thread was moved to the original thread.

I've done Whitestone loca and just ordered the sgfreshidea as Whitestones warranty is a joke. The kit I got from white stone had stickers to cover speaker grills and sponges to absorb any run off on the edges.. I'm not sure what sgfreshidea kit comes with as I have not received it yet. But to anyone else. Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.

letrain02 said:
Cover anywhere the the screen protector will not be. Clear tape should work. even with the Whitestone I had some run off but no issues getting into anything it shouldn't.
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Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.

butterbeanmash said:
Easier said than done - the InvisShield sits absolutely flush with the edge of the speaker grills.
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The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.

How i fixed my phone from the same problem.
So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!

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So I had the same exact problem as you. So this is what i did. I took a toothbrush poured some rubbing alcohol on the speakers. and stared gently brushing it. Then after that go to you tube and play a very high bass song. the pour more alcohol on the speakers and let it sit you'll see the liquid vibrating. then flip it and beat it into a towel really hard. keep poring and flipping it and beating it onto a towel until the speakers sound better. And something for the mic take an ear swab and dip it i the alcohol and tap it into the mic and let it sit then flip it and beat it into a towel. Trust me it works. I just fixed mine I'm so happy. !!!!
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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letrain02 said:
The white stone is pretty close. I only did one application with my Whitestone kit (Which they wanted me to ship everything back at my expense, and charge $15 handling fee to send me my "warranty replacement", i can get 2 protectors from sgfreshidea for that price). The tabs they send actually lock into the frame they send that you set the phone in. And the tab-tape they send with white stone just barely cover the to the edge of speaker. So with the whitestone kit it's easier to get it right at the edge. I'll see how they work with the sgfreshidea when they they get here and report back. Maybe these tabs can be found elsewhere? As I found with the whitestone having a little missing local on the edge was not s killer... It takes a lot to life the screen off. But dust did kind of collect on one of the edges. Maybe I'll take the risk and use clear packing tape and no special frame kit and see if I can get it done with regular household items. If I screw up I have extra loca and it only hardens when it's hit with uv.
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You use masking tape or the usual Scotch tape (probably any normal consumer level tape would work). I'm surprised no one thought of covering up the speakers for the install.

$45 on Amazon
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For $50 this is NUTS!!! I switched to Whitestone cause SG was too difficult and messy. Whitestone glass is also way better. SG gets hazy if u gotta clean LOCA off. But there customer service is TOP NOTCH. Unfortunately if you're in Canada or the US. Delivery is like a month. Which again is NUTS!!!
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Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?

mikepopo99 said:
Wow its $45 on amazon and primed shipping. So have you tried it? Does it come with the kit that helps with installation. Did any of the glue leak on the speakers?
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Tried em both. No LOCA leakage whatsoever. Plus u get tabs to cover the grills as a precaution. The kit makes installation a breeze. The only thing u need to do is properly clean the screen. With SG the protector doesn't come with protective film. So u have to clean that also. Making the chance of getting particles on the screen and thus wrecking the install way higher and alot more stressful. With the WStone Once put on. U don't even know it's there. Clear and fingerprint resistant like the phone screen. Whitestone is the one to get.
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[Review] GPEL Tempered glass

The GPEL screen protector is fantastic! No dot matrix, full adhesive, comes with 2, affordable, case friendly & no Halo affect.
The black border is just a tad too big, so you lose a row of pixels..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D1CG8QY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MQYCBbYM79AP7

Thanks for sharing the review!

Hello,
Does the black line cut from the sides of the screen ? Or the bottom ?
Thank you !

Al3xxxinho said:
Hello,
Does the black line cut from the sides of the screen ? Or the bottom ?
Thank you !
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I currently have this protector, as stated in the OP it cuts off a little on all sides and is it a bit crooked. I have plans to review another screen protector (might be the one) in a new thread soon

So, anyone that sells this internationally for less than 15usd for shipping?

8bitbang said:
I currently have this protector, as stated in the OP it cuts off a little on all sides and is it a bit crooked. I have plans to review another screen protector (might be the one) in a new thread soon
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Care to share which one? I just picked up a g7 yesterday, have a SUPCASE UB Pro on order, want to pull the included plastic shield, put on glass.
The gpel sounds good, but I'm interested in seeing what else looks solid. (Not interested in going to the $50 dome glass.)
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markfm said:
Care to share which one? I just picked up a g7 yesterday, have a SUPCASE UB Pro on order, want to pull the included plastic shield, put on glass.
The gpel sounds good, but I'm interested in seeing what else looks solid. (Not interested in going to the $50 dome glass.)
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I have 2 g7s one with gpel and dome glass. Do you want a side by side comparsion picture. Either is perfect and has flaws

8bitbang said:
I have 2 g7s one with gpel and dome glass. Do you want a side by side comparsion picture. Either is perfect and has flaws
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Sure, thanks!
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Dome is on the left and GPEL is on the right
Dome - doesn't affect the sensors but it's smaller than the actual display. It's a bit too short on the left and right sides. This causes light bleed on the edge of the screen protector. Dust magnet but less likely to have bubbles
GPEL - affects sensors and black borders cut off display and is especially noticeable when watching YouTube videos in full screen pinch. Bubbles can happen

8bitbang said:
Dome is on the left and GPEL is on the right
Dome - doesn't affect the sensors but it's smaller than the actual display. It's a bit too short on the left and right sides. This causes light bleed on the edge of the screen protector. Dust magnet but less likely to have bubbles
GPEL - affects sensors and black borders cut off display and is especially noticeable when watching YouTube videos in full screen pinch. Bubbles can happen
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What are the sensor impacts from using the gpel?
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markfm said:
What are the sensor impacts from using the gpel?
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It can cause the display to dim and sometimes turn off like when you raise your phone to answer a call. To be fair all full cover screen protectors are suffering for this flaw. Even OtterBox is getting massive hate for their version and is temporary unavailable.

Just to let you guys know,
You will NOT have the "notch" border pixel line problem if you perfectly align the holes at the top with the sensors, but with a catch: you have to align it with the sensor being more towards the bottom than dead center. My very first screen protector had it more towards the top (basically, the entire protector aligned downwards 1mm, which made the notch very prominent). Then I wasted two more trying to make it bottom aligned. (edit). That fixes the sensor problem and the pixel problem at the top with the notch, unless you are looking down at the phone from above the phone (and who the hell does that?). Unfortunately, perfect alignment is expensive and will cost you several screen protectors since you have to deal with lifting and replanting as well as small nudging WHILE you are in a steamy bathroom hoping for no dust hairs to drop on something. Took me three of them to get it perfect. But I got perfect and I'm pleased.
The left and right sides black bars aren't a problem; the missing pixel line can always be seen by looking to the side of the phone. Just remember to focus on aligning the TOP first (edit) align the ridged sensor so it's almost touching the bottom cutout) and then pressing the top down, then the middle. That's the hard part. This will also cause a few air bubbles on the sides, which means you will have to carefully lift the edges and press outwards to reapply again, and make very sure your fingernails are spotless. That is going to be the risk of dust getting in there, so be careful. Get it perfect then everything will make you happy.
The results are worth it.

Falkentyne said:
Just to let you guys know,
You will NOT have the "notch" border pixel line problem if you perfectly align the holes at the top with the sensors. That fixes the sensor problem and the pixel problem at the top with the notch, unless you are looking down at the phone from above the phone (and who the hell does that?). Unfortunately, perfect alignment is expensive and will cost you several screen protectors since you have to deal with lifting and replanting as well as small nudging WHILE you are in a steamy bathroom hoping for no dust hairs to drop on something. Took me three of them to get it perfect. But I got perfect and I'm pleased.
The left and right sides black bars aren't a problem; the missing pixel line can always be seen by looking to the side of the phone. Just remember to focus on aligning the TOP first and then pressing the top down, then the middle. That's the hard part. This will also cause a few air bubbles on the sides, which means you will have to carefully lift the edges and press outwards to reapply again, and make very sure your fingernails are spotless. That is going to be the risk of dust getting in there, so be careful. Get it perfect then everything will make you happy.
The results are worth it.
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Where's your proof? Both the OP and me have reported information (with evidence mind you) that contradicts your statements.

8bitbang said:
Where's your proof? Both the OP and me have reported information (with evidence mind you) that contradicts your statements.
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My proof is me owning the phone and going through 4 GPEL screen protectors before I got it perfect. I paid my dues. And as someone disabled and on SSI and with a fixed income, I don't have money to go through infinite screen protectors, unlike some of you people here.
The trick is to align the "ridged" sensor so that it's (edit: just looked at my phone: the hole aligned at the -bottom- of the ridged sensor, rather than dead center! but not blocked by the edge of the screen protector), sensor bottom aligned and then after that, making sure all the sides are perfectly straight when applying (a LOT harder than you think, even in a steamy shower, because I'm in an old apartment). Took me 4 protectors and cost me over $30 dollars. (air bubbles and dust from me constantly having to re-lift to get the orientation perfect and eventually dust getting under the edges, and I have OCD so I want nothing less than perfection). Might even give GPEL an email and see if they'll send me an extra sample for my troubles. And no, I have no way to take a picture of the phone screen for you.
I forgot that I had it 'bottom' side sensor aligned rather than mid sensor aligned because I spent over 30 minutes in the shower sweating and uncomfortable wasting screen protectors trying to get rid of the notch line and getting it on with air bubbles. I was extremely stressed out, and it's difficult for someone with a metal bar in their spine to have to work that hard. Needless to say the fourth protector (thank god) I got absolutely perfect.
If it's dead center yes you will have a pixel row of the notch visible. So you have to 'raise' the protector upwards by that same pixel space. There's enough cutout to work with to make that work.
This is no problem because the very *BOTTOM* of the phone isn't used by the display (since this is an IPS display; someone mentioned this in a review, compared to OLED), unlike the top, so you have like 1mm of extra room to work with for the cutout (as long as the top sensor isn't blocked by the bottom edge of the protector). The black border at the bottom won't interfere with anything (checked with a screen test in the service menu).
I'll -try- to upload a picture of the phone with my laptop's built in camera if I can later on, but please don't be upset if you don't like the quality. My laptop isn't high definition and isn't made for such precise pictures. 720p isn't going to work very well.

@Falkentyne - thanks for the explanation.
It sounds like the critical part is where the protector is relative to the front mounted speaker (towards the right edge of the notch) front mounted camera (center of the notch), mystery circle to the left of the camera, and tiny notification led circle furthest to the left side of the notch?
If a photo of your own screen is hard to get, I've attached a photo, the top part of the g7 screen. Maybe draw a line showing where the gpel edge needs to be (outside edge of the line = outside edge of the gpel).

This is the best I could do.

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@Falkentyne - thanks for the explanation.
It sounds like the critical part is where the protector is relative to the front mounted speaker (towards the right edge of the notch) front mounted camera (center of the notch), mystery circle to the left of the camera, and tiny notification led circle furthest to the left side of the notch?
If a photo of your own screen is hard to get, I've attached a photo, the top part of the g7 screen. Maybe draw a line showing where the gpel edge needs to be (outside edge of the line = outside edge of the gpel).
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In your picture, move the screen protector UP about 1mm upwards so the bottom is where the red line is.
This will leave about 1mm of 'extra' space above the sensor area (whatever that thing is, sensor, microphone, I don't know). But it will still fit fully into the enclosure.
Took me 4 screen protectors to do this AND have no spare dust hairs from all the relifting !

Perfect thanks!
Just over the bottom edge of the front speaker (the oval on the right with the grid pattern).
I just got my gpel protectors in today, will give it a try tomorrow.

I installed it following your suggestion, it seems to be working fine. Thanks for the info!

markfm said:
I installed it following your suggestion, it seems to be working fine. Thanks for the info!
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Glad you got it working and got the results you wanted.
It's good that the cutout is slightly larger than the speaker(and sensor/camera) itself, but bad that people won't know about this without experimentation (or somehow coming across the posts here).

[REVIEW] amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector

Hello all!
First time posting in a while, so forgive me if I'm a bit rusty. I just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ yesterday, and my amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector today, so I thought I'd write up a little review. Sorry for no pics, but I was busy installing and trying to keep things dust-free
I've used Whitestone in the past but was disappointed with both my Note 8 and 9 installs, primarily because of the LOCA spiderwebbing on the edges. I figured I'd give another brand a shot, so I went searching here and found the amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector. A quick trip over to Amazon, and $40 later (for a full kit including *2* protectors) and here we are!
PACKAGING: The box is nice - wider and flatter than the WS product. It's clean and simple, but professional looking. Plus their website and install video are well done also. Inside the outer box are three smaller boxes. The largest contains the plastic frame, screen protectors, and wipes (I think). The medium size box contains the UV light and the MicroUSB cable. It appears to be identical to the WS product, but I don't know this for a fact, so take that for what it's worth. The smallest box contains the LOCA (2 tubes), extra absorption pads, plastic pin, tabs to place over the speaker, a bubble level, and a weight. Everything you need comes in this kit, including plenty of wet and dry wipes, microfiber cloths, and dust removal stickers. On the packaging is a QR code to go to the install video.
PRODUCT: Everything seems to be on the same quality scale as the WS product, with a few minor changes - 1) there is no LOCA applicator "bridge", you have to aim and dribble the solution by hand, 2) the pin is different - there's no more tilting the entire phone to move the liquid into position - the pin is angled and sets the glass down at an angle, and 3) the "fingerprint" weight (more on this later). Otherwise, if you've done the WS before, this isn't significantly different.
INSTALLATION: **REMINDER** REMOVE the factory plastic screen protector and clean your screen THOROUGHLY before proceeding! I ALMOST forgot, which would have been a disaster! I watched the video twice and didn't see any mention of this, so amFilm, here's a tip for you Anyway, installation is straightforward -put the little feet on the bottom of the phone to bring it flush with the pins inside, make sure the screen is 100% clean, install the sticker over the speaker, apply the liquid (making sure to absorb any "splatter" before proceeding!), peel the protective film off the glass, place it, and pull the pin. Once the liquid starts to spread, put the weight where the fingerprint sensor is and let it settle and "ooze" for 3-ish minutes. (NOTE - it's hard to locate the fingerprint scanner, so you might want to mark the frame in advance with a Sharpie (another tip for amFilm - marking that plastic with some kind of raised bumps or hash marks might be a good idea, or maybe a film for on top of the glass that marks where to place it - just a thought). After that, it's bake-time under the UV light, then you're done.
RESULTS: I'm very impressed so far. The glass appears to be nice and clear, and I can't even see the little "spots" in the corners others mentioned. I lucked out this time and no dust specs at all. No bubbles, etc. the fingerprint scanner appears to be working fine, although I haven't re-registered anything. It DOES require a little extra "umph" to scan, but that's not a big deal. Part of that could be me getting used to an in-screen scanner. There was minimal over-oozing, and the pre-installed pads absorbed everything fine. Barely needed a wipedown afterward.
FITMENT: There appears to be no flaws in placement using the guide, or in the fitment of the glass. It sits flat, and lines up exactly where it should. The cutout for the front-facing camera is exactly where it should be, and it's not overly-exaggerated in size. The edges leave plenty of room for putting the phone in a case (I've tried 4 so far, all fit without touching the glass edge, so there's no worry about case push on the glue). The bottom edge is just a tad bit short, maybe a 1/16", but that could be allowing for larger cases (I don't use the big bulky ones, so IDK).
OVERALL ASSESSMENT: 4.5/5 Stars - Great product, especially for the price. I'll keep you posted on long-term wear & quality, but for now, I'd say it's a great deal versus the competition.

Thanks for the feedback, just got my note 10 plus and am trying to filter out the paid/promo reviews vs legit ones.
I may go this route with amfilm as well. i bought the tech matte clear case, so i hope it fits well within it without popping off.
hows your experience after putting it in a case?

I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.

entropism said:
I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
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Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?

joogle said:
Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
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The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.

entropism said:
The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
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If you turn sensitivity on, does that resolve the fingerprint issue?

No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.

entropism said:
No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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The September update includes improved finger printer recognition.

Ok I decided to go ahead and buy the amfilm note 10 plus screen protector from Amazon. Watched their video and then another on Youtube like twice. I think I got the install right, the whole weight placing situation is a guesstimate, if they are reading this thread - put something on the tray to take the guessing out of the process, like a stick with a weight so it stays in one spot.
Also, the glue stick - be careful when lifting it to make sure no drop falls out - i didnt put the black cap back on - saw an extra few big drops fall on my desk - no biggie - but if it was on the screen would have been a hassle.
then the UV light shuts off at 45 seconds - their last instruction is to keep it lit for 60 seconds - they should probably adjust it - again not a big issue.
in terms of quality of the screen protector - looks good - its a thin piece of glass - hopefully it protects the screen. the fingerprint sensor - its been a hit/miss kind of. i added my same thumb print twice, sometimes it has to read directly in the middle of the thumb, othertimes i feel like i have to press harder. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor before the screen protector so don't know if its just the way it is.
I would rate this like 3.5 / 5 -- i think tempered glass is solid, the fingerprint sensor can be annoying, its not really that smooth like if you slightly put your finger/thumb on it that it will open. like literally it won't take it on first try, on second or third try it will take - that is the most annoying part about it.
the install process was decent, as long as you watch the videos first - its straight forward.
price wise its sucky - i wish they would sell this for $20 - even with just one screen protector. $40 is steep, replacement protectors they can probably price between $7 to $10 i feel.
By the way this is the same UV type device used to cure fingernail paint - lol - your household may already have one.
I don't have the Whitestone to compare to. But I can say man the Samsung film screen protector is solid, used it for few days, even when taking it off it was on perfectly. I kind of miss it but i think tempered glass will offer more protection on a fall.

Pictures, please.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VKHMK9J/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_2oX0DbYMHRS0A
I've installed two of these protectors on a note 10 + and a note 10. I did have the issue with the frame cracking with the note 10+ but the company has since fixed that issue.
I've used WDG for a few years now and this one has exceeded my expectations and is better than Whitestone.
The installation is simple and comes with a weighted cylinder that's used when you're curing the glass with the UV light. I've had zero issues with the finger scanner as well as my daughter on her note 10. I actually put the cylinder on while the glue was spreading. I can actually see a circle where the finger print scanner is at and I think this is a recipe for success. I've installed these just after release and they still look brand new. Scanner works great! I can provide forage if anyone is interested. The price is great for getting two in the box. I highly recommend!