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Is one ever too old for a quality phone?

I hope not, because I just upgraded my 72 year old mother from a Nexus 5 to a OnePlus 3. Well, it's on the way.
I may not modify anything on the phone. However, I do have a question: Does OnePlus update their phones to the latest versions of Android often, regularly, or will she be lucky to see updates at all?
Thanks!

wvcadle said:
I hope not, because I just upgraded my 72 year old mother from a Nexus 5 to a OnePlus 3. Well, it's on the way.
I may not modify anything on the phone. However, I do have a question: Does OnePlus update their phones to the latest versions of Android often, regularly, or will she be lucky to see updates at all?
Thanks!
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Yes they update their phones fast.Op3 will run Android Nougat .edit.I mean faster than,let s say,Samsung.man o war is right.

JoshDaWhite said:
Yes they update their phones fast.Op3 will run Android Nougat .
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They are generally quite good regarding monthly security updates.
Regarding new android versions, it's not exactly the same. Oh, they will definitely update the OP3 to Android Nougat. Android O won't be out and you'll already have Nougat on your phone ! Amazing ! So fast ! :laugh:
Oneplus are certainly not the best regarding updates but they are probably not the worst.
Don't expect fast updates like Nexus.

Monthly updates are nice, if there're bugs , you may get 2-3 update per month. You surely get the Android N update, but with my experiences with OP1 and 2, you will have to wait 3-4 months after nexus, simply because you are running on a custom android- Oxygen( quite nice now) so they are worth waiting.
and remember you always have HUGE deverlop community here, OP forum &chinese forums( which you could have strange ROMs port ) , so dont afraid ,

_Man0waR_ said:
They are generally quite good regarding monthly security updates.
Regarding new android versions, it's not exactly the same. Oh, they will definitely update the OP3 to Android Nougat. Android O won't be out and you'll already have Nougat on your phone ! Amazing ! So fast ! :laugh:
Oneplus are certainly not the best regarding updates but they are probably not the worst.
Don't expect fast updates like Nexus.
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The OP3 is a shift for them. I think they're potentially going to change the game up on their whole paradigm simply based on the success of this phone. The public and media seem to be pretty fond of the OP3 at present, and Oneplus will need to maintain that momentum and keep their client base happy. If they're smart, they'll push Android M no later than Q4 of this year.

Asus zenfone 5z: Android P release date.

Does any one know when will this latest flagship from asus is about to get Android P.
As the direct compiters of this device is far ahead of the game in providing updates(but with my exp of using this device couple of days it's Sw is pretty stable).
As a android user I will be always eager to use latest updates from Google and see how the performance and innovation is getting improved.
My past exp with using custom roms is very bad and my openion in custom roms is full of bugs and instability.
Instead the device maifacturer has the competency to build and test the rom which is reliable enough. So depending on the OEM is far better. This is just my openion but unfortunately OEM's are not dependable and greedy these days due to completion and other things in market.
Bottom line when is the Android P expected to this device. Or in your openion should I shift to a good supplier who provides faster updates.
Thanks.

suraj051 said:
Does any one know when will this latest flagship from asus is about to get Android P.
As the direct compiters of this device is far ahead of the game in providing updates(but with my exp of using this device couple of days it's Sw is pretty stable).
As a android user I will be always eager to use latest updates from Google and see how the performance and innovation is getting improved.
My past exp with using custom roms is very bad and my openion in custom roms is full of bugs and instability.
Instead the device maifacturer has the competency to build and test the rom which is reliable enough. So depending on the OEM is far better. This is just my openion but unfortunately OEM's are not dependable and greedy these days due to completion and other things in market.
Bottom line when is the Android P expected to this device. Or in your openion should I shift to a good supplier who provides faster updates.
Thanks.
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If you want faster updates, go for Oneplus. For Asus, I read thorugh somewhere P upgrade will be in Q4 2018

chaostan said:
If you want faster updates, go for Oneplus. For Asus, I read thorugh somewhere P upgrade will be in Q4 2018
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Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.

Why are people so hung up on the getting the newest update immediately? There are usually bugs that need to be worked out, such as the Android P fast charging bug.
I'd rather get it a little later after it's smoothed out.

I'm expecting it at end of Q4/18.

suraj051 said:
Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
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This is not a flagship from asus point of view. They treat ROG series as one

suraj051 said:
Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
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Dude calm down. My LG V20 still has Android 7.0

Android 10 update

Any ideas if Samsung finally will update Android on their phones including the new Note 10/10+ fast this year? P30 Pro will have acces to Android Q Beta this September...any news for the Note?
Was a reason i moved away from Samsung phones, i really like the Note 10 + and i really want to purchase it but, can't stand waiting month for the new Android version...
So what you think?

Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest

winol said:
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
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A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me

Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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If timely OS updates is high on your priority list, you bought the wrong phone.
I have owned the Note5, Note7, Note8, and Note9. I recall the Note 8 update to Oreo occurred the April after it was released, and the Note9 Pie update occurred in February after it was released (carrier versions, anyway). So you're looking at Q1 2020 for the update.
However, half the time the Android updates contain things that Samsung has already had in their software for a year or two, so... it's not that big a deal. That said, I still am always super excited when it happens (so I get it).

I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.

Hazzay88 said:
I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
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Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything

torickray said:
Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
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You are missing Android 10

really if you care about the android updates as soon as possible just go to a Pixel device. on the other hand just buy a phone you like and get the updates when they come, an android update doesn't really change a lot, a lot of what is added to the base android are features that are common among third parties, so for a device from a manufacturer like Samsung all the android update means is you get a bigger number and some of the phones features move from the Samsung UI to base Android.

Hazzay88 said:
You are missing Android 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.

Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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Software is important for EVERYBODY, what I tried to tell you is this: if you like/want a note10 device, it works fine as it is, it will update in due course, if the updates are your most uttmost concern, then a pixel would be the perfect choice for you, it is well known that samsung is never the first to issue updates, knowing this, better get something else

After seeing the YouTube video of One UI 2.0 over Android 10, I can't see anything that exciting. Android 9 (RIP desserts) runs great, and 10 looked like a very incremental update.

Just enjoy your phone you just got it . Q will come orob will get 10 and 11 . Let's get 9 working good before we think of getting 10

torickray said:
Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
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You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late

Hazzay88 said:
You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.

Belimawr said:
there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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I had the Pixel 2 XL and when the update came through my battery life improved which was already good but improvement in any department is good.

Why should you come to this forum and complain about Samsung update when you know how they work?
We all know the update will take some time to be available since the moment we buy it. We like this phone not because of the google update that we eventually will get, but because of the features that not available even with latest google update.
You should buy pixel and iphone then. Or huawei.

Exactly

I've only had one recent "need" for an android upgrade(Wireless android auto), just to find out that after we got it that google had restricted the feature to google devices. After 6 months of google claiming it was the Samsung's issue, even though no other brands worked either, they came out with a "beta" that enabled Wireless AA on other devices, no patches from samsung required.
There are so few important updates in Android these days, it's the least of my concerns.

March security update OTA available

Region - Poland (XEO), no Android 10 yet unfortunately. :silly:

k3lcior said:
Region - Poland (XEO), no Android 10 yet unfortunately. :silly:
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Samsung Members A50 update android 10 May month

Received the same one (Netherlands):
- Camera stability improved
- Camera photo quality improved
- Wifi connection and stability improved
- Security improved
- Other stabilisation codes applied

bootoneui said:
Samsung Members A50 update android 10 May month
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Source?

k3lcior said:
Source?
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Samsung Members App

Still not available for the A505U1...

Also the fingerprint sensor issue is better as far I can see. I had some trouble rooting it but after a second try it work better. Battery life feels a little better also. So far so good......

I don't know how send images but I am sure they still have not fixed the bug with draining battery by Android system

bootoneui said:
Samsung Members A50 update android 10 May month
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It doesn't make any sense. It's not that I'm in a hurry since from my last experiences sometimes updating to a newer Android version makes the phone work worse than with the version it first shipped with.
But, that being said, why would Samsung roll out the update to cheaper and less popular devices like the A30/M30 and delay it for it's second most sold phone in 2019? What about A70 users!? They paid for a higher end product and they are left behind even worse.

hi, Samsung 10+ SM-N975U

hi everyone
I'm New here and my issue that I have Samsung Note 10+ SM- N975U ...4DTH7 and I noticed that My Phone stuck on Android 10 while other Phones around the world has been updated to Android 12
I tried many times to update my phone but every time it said that I got the last Update. So is there any way to update my phone to Android 11 or 12
thanks for your help

Flash manually with odin there is a thread in the guides section with the files you need

I would leave it on 10 until you get feedback on 12 from other users.
No huge reasons to update from 10... but there may be many valid reasons not too!
I have one that's running 9, one that's on 10; both are fast and very stable. Security is not an issue...
Scoped storage and forced encryption are fully active on 11 and up. These will use more cpu cycles and resources. Scoped storage will also screw up older apps that run fine on 10. All apps need to be compatible with 12 or it can cause system wide issues.

11 runs all apps just fine and 12 is pretty stable as well beeen riung the beta with no issues up grade to 11 and wait for stable 12 to come through ota

jolly_roger_hook said:
11 runs all apps just fine and 12 is pretty stable as well beeen riung the beta with no issues up grade to 11 and wait for stable 12 to come through ota
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So what doesn't work besides most older apps?
SOT is how much worse?
Hey I could be all wrong but I think 11 and 12 are wallowing ducks.
Android 10 wasn't a net wash but I still lost valuable functionality and troubleshooting tools to it. For what?
I'm running 2 N10+'s, one on 9, one on 10. I can easily see what was lost or gained. Goggle gestures is a complete bloody abortion, what a mess. Thankfully Samsung has numerous work around modifications and virtual nav buttons can be used.
Lol, which Galaxy themes work with 12?
Android 12 is puking on the flagship Pixel's... that tell you something?
If you upgrade using OTA you are boned if it upgrades the bootloader version (which it usually does)... no going back.

blackhawk said:
So what doesn't work besides most older apps?
SOT is how much worse?
Hey I could be all wrong but I think 11 and 12 are wallowing ducks.
Android 10 wasn't a net wash but I still lost valuable functionality and troubleshooting tools to it. For what?
I'm running 2 N10+'s, one on 9, one on 10. I can easily see what was lost or gained. Goggle gestures is a complete bloody abortion, what a mess. Thankfully Samsung has numerous work around modifications and virtual nav buttons can be used.
Lol, which Galaxy themes work with 12?
Android 12 is puking on the flagship Pixel's... that tell you something?
If you upgrade using OTA you are boned if it upgrades the bootloader version (which it usually does)... no going back.
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Each their own I guess. I personally think 12 is awesome with some tweaking.

thereefour777 said:
Each their own I guess. I personally think 12 is awesome with some tweaking.
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What features or benefits do you like with 12?
What don't you like?