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Hi all,
so, i persuaded my friend to buy a s4, bt now she's facing several problems with it, the problems are:
1) heating issue (my Note 2 heats too, bt she claims that hers heat very fast, even for short usages)
2) Front camera is blurry ( i'll post a pic soon)
3) she put her phone to charge the whole night (about 8 hours) and when she turned it on, the battery percentage was only 95%
She also bought the phone for a cheaper price ( I'm thinking it's nt 100% genuine, bt she said she gt it from a authorised dealer)
Hope there's a solution to these problems
for now, i'm suggesting her to send it back to a samsung center for a change of device.
thanks!
How much cheaper are we talking about here? You can always buy warranty as well just for protection. As for the heating issue, I do find it to be more frequent that my previous Note 2 or S3. I noticed this especially when I'm using the camera, YouTube, browser. Haven't even played any games on it yet.
As for the camera, you might try to go into settings. Perhaps its trying to auto-focus too much - I also have this issue sometimes with the camera when it wouldn't focus, but just adjust the settings maybe.
imrhay said:
Hi all,
so, i persuaded my friend to buy a s4, bt now she's facing several problems with it, the problems are:
1) heating issue (my Note 2 heats too, bt she claims that hers heat very fast, even for short usages)
2) Front camera is blurry ( i'll post a pic soon)
3) she put her phone to charge the whole night (about 8 hours) and when she turned it on, the battery percentage was only 95%
She also bought the phone for a cheaper price ( I'm thinking it's nt 100% genuine, bt she said she gt it from a authorised dealer)
Hope there's a solution to these problems
for now, i'm suggesting her to send it back to a samsung center for a change of device.
thanks!
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Id do exactly that if u think it's bad send it back, your under warranty
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Only major issue Ive had is a galaxy family wide issue since s2 (loose charge port) only had it 2.5 days
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imrhay said:
Hi all,
so, i persuaded my friend to buy a s4, bt now she's facing several problems with it, the problems are:
1) heating issue (my Note 2 heats too, bt she claims that hers heat very fast, even for short usages)
2) Front camera is blurry ( i'll post a pic soon)
3) she put her phone to charge the whole night (about 8 hours) and when she turned it on, the battery percentage was only 95%
She also bought the phone for a cheaper price ( I'm thinking it's nt 100% genuine, bt she said she gt it from a authorised dealer)
Hope there's a solution to these problems
for now, i'm suggesting her to send it back to a samsung center for a change of device.
thanks!
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These issues are common amongst many users. I personally would not recommend this phone to a friend without telling then about these issues. Its a shame that Samsung has the latest and greatest and then ruin it with these small but important problems.
I'm extremely happy with my phone ONLY because I am rooted and will have access to amazing ROMs that will cure these problems. Software aside, the actually device is amazing and i wouldn't want any other.
The camera could be blurry due to the packaging sticker that most people don't notice and don't remove that's on the camera. Although the sticker has a round cut out and shouldn't affect the picture at all unless its misaligned. Some say its there for protection others say to remove it. Do as u wish.
On the topic of heat, if your charging and heavily using your phone, it DOES get unreasonably hot. Uncomfortable but still not a defect. I'm sure the device is more than capable of handling these temperatures. But it is uncomfortable to hold...this is also very subjective. Hot to me may not be hot to you and vise versa. But I think that it is much hotter than older phones so I understand why people can be alarmed by the difference.
Charging batteries is a wonky topic. Batteries all behave slightly differently. They are temperamental and take time to perform their best. Fully draining and then fully charging ur battery is good practice to ensure good and long lasting performance. But I'd say its too early to call your issue a problem that requires a replacement. If it were, let's say, 75% I'd do something about it. 95? Ehhh not an issue. I suggest getting a larger aftermarket battery anyway if you want acceptable battery life. (12hours)
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sgs22012 said:
Only major issue Ive had is a galaxy family wide issue since s2 (loose charge port) only had it 2.5 days
Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk 2
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Seriously? I came to the S4 from the Fascinate (S1), and my USB port is just as firm as it ever was on the Fascinate. (Of course, haven't had the S4 enough to tell..)
Thanks guys for your reply,
Really appreciate it
Like you guys said the problems are normal
Sent from the undoubtedly best phone on earth, the Samsung Note II
imrhay said:
Thanks guys for your reply,
Really appreciate it
Like you guys said the problems are normal
Sent from the undoubtedly best phone on earth, the Samsung Note II
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Uh... those problems are not normal. Those sound like serious issues and do not seem consistent with a typical S4 experience, at least not mine or the two other people I know that have one. I would even consider that your friend purchased an imitation s4, which are known to exist.
If ever in doubt, return the phone to where she got it from.
-Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2
Dr. Fed said:
Uh... those problems are not normal. Those sound like serious issues and do not seem consistent with a typical S4 experience, at least not mine or the two other people I know that have one. I would even consider that your friend purchased an imitation s4, which are known to exist.
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I, likewise, have NONE of those issues. At all. I do have occasional stuttering lag, but that's it. If I were having those issues I would send it back.
imrhay said:
Hi all,
so, i persuaded my friend to buy a s4, bt now she's facing several problems with it, the problems are:
1) heating issue (my Note 2 heats too, bt she claims that hers heat very fast, even for short usages)
2) Front camera is blurry ( i'll post a pic soon)
3) she put her phone to charge the whole night (about 8 hours) and when she turned it on, the battery percentage was only 95%
She also bought the phone for a cheaper price ( I'm thinking it's nt 100% genuine, bt she said she gt it from a authorised dealer)
Hope there's a solution to these problems
for now, i'm suggesting her to send it back to a samsung center for a change of device.
thanks!
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Though it is possible that there are hardware issues with the device itself, here are some common things to check:
1) Heating is normal when running graphic intensive apps like games. If the phone is heating up while idle, it is a problem.
2) Make sure there is no plastic covering on the front camera. The picture may appear gritty on the screen but transfer it to a computer and check the resolution.
3) I am almost certain it is taking forever to charge because she may be using an old charger or an old usb cable. The S4 comes with a different charger output (0.5V and 2 A) & will charge the phone quickly. The older chargers are (0.5V & 1A), which will charge the S4 but take forever.
Check these things first. If any of these are off, replace the phone asap!
Hello XDA community. I want to make the switch to the Verizon LG G4 and I'm exploring the features. I have gotten use to this Verizon S4 and want to know a bit more. One example is... I use the video settings on my S4 to limit for mms, does the LG G4 support this? I use it alot. Any others made the switch from the S4 that are having feature withdrawls? I just want to have a phone that has most of the same features and I don't want the S6. I need that expandable storage and battery. Thanks for having me here, I love this site and have used it for every phone I've had. Keep up the good work!
Hey so I didn't have the Galaxy S4 but I did just make the jump up from the Verizon version of the Galaxy S3. So far I'm happy with my new purchase!
Pros:
Camera and the screen - both awesome. Top Notch.
Fits in the front pocket of my favorite jeans! This could have been a deal-breaker.
I really like the curvature of the phone, makes it easier to hold and fit in your pocket.
I feel like I'm getting a better Verizon signal, haven't tested nor measured yet though.
Cons:
Battery life isn't bad but could be better. At least I can swap out replacements!
No root yet ...
I really miss installing custom ROMS, especially CM12.1 since it was getting so good.
Have you looked at the settings in video? I want to know if you can limit for mms messaging
I came from a Galaxy S3.
There were some things I'd taken for granted on my S3, which were not found on my G4.
- On my S3, I could turn the volume down to just Vibrate. And one more click would then turn off Vibrate, keeping it completely silent. On the G4, the volume control only turns it down to Vibrate, but no further. The S3 also showed a notification-bar icon for vibrate-only, and for fully-muted. The G4 does not show icons like that, so a few times I forgot to turn the volume up, and left it on vibrate-only in the morning.
- It may be a Lollipop thing, but the battery graph no longer shows bars for whether WiFi, GPS, or the screen were on, as well as whether the phone was Awake. A friend's S6 shows the same behavior, so again, it may not be an LG vs Galaxy change.
- The S3 camera let me set resolution, and metering styles (like Spot, vs Center-Weighted). And you can limit the video length, as you mentioned. The G4 camera app is fixed at full-resolution, and does not let you set a metering mode, even in Manual mode, as far as I can tell. You cannot set size limits for videos. I think the lowest video resolution is 720.
I returned my G4 within my 14-day return period, due to issues with it running warm, and short battery life. I should have exchanged it earlier, as a number of people with those issues have reported that replacements were better for them. I may give it a few weeks and buy one again. I'm in a similar situation to you, except coming from an S3, and I want something with SD and removable battery. My next choice is the S5, but there's a lot to like about the G4, I'm hoping the teething issues are sorted out quickly.
I'm currently using my Galaxy S4 and just bought the G4 a week ago. I'll probably keep using my S4 until the G4 has root. I can't find any option to limit the video size for mms. The only options are UHD, FHD, HD and slo-mo. There are NO modes for things like HDR, Twilight, Fireworks, etc. for the camera either. Your only options are Auto, Panorama and dual. There is an option to turn HDR on or off, but it's for all pics.
I love the manual camera options, and I like the screen much more than my S4's screen but there's not much else that is better (or as good as) my S4. If we get root, I should be able to tweak things to my liking & the G4 should be as impressive as my S4. I'm used to having full control & flashing ROMs.
Hi!
I come from a S4, and it really worth it. You have better camera, screen, etc. Everything is better (except battery life, which is a bit bad right now). I have the phone since a week ago and I'm quite happy with it. I don't miss my S4 at all (except for root and things like that, but it's question of time)
I cant' answer to the mms question because I have never use it, but I don't think you can do that with the G4. But maybe there's an app for that?
Thank you for your help. I'm going into the store and playing with this thing before I make a decision. I guess a hands on experience will either make it or break it. I wish the S6 had a removable battery and SD card slot, or... offer up that 64GB version at verizon. I run into space problems as it is with my S4. I can't imagine not having an expansion option. Also, is it true that Verizon limited the expansion to 200GB on the G4 instead of the 2TB that LG gave it? Why oh why must these companies mess with a good thing? Sigh...
LG G4 !!
Having had the samsung galaxy s4, the G4 and more efficient lg .
Negative point at LG: the empty battery too quickly
@CrustyMcLovin and @RedOCtobyr
Could you please elaborate more on battery life of G4 compared to S3. According to Phonearena info, on stand-by only S3 lasts 2.5 times longer then G4. Is it really the case? Is the battery of G4 that poor?
user9999 said:
@CrustyMcLovin and @RedOCtobyr
Could you please elaborate more on battery life of G4 compared to S3. According to Phonearena info, on stand-by only S3 lasts 2.5 times longer then G4. Is it really the case? Is the battery of G4 that poor?
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Sorry I don't have any numbers just to share, just my anecdotal experiences.. in that regard Id say the G4 battery life is similar to that of my Galaxy S3. That isn't bad but it's just not nearly as good as the reported battery life from some of the newer flagship devices. Either way I gotta say that when people post that they get 5+ hours of screen-on time that it's hard to believe.
I don't expect hard number. Your "feeling" is OK Thx
CrustyMcLovin said:
Sorry I don't have any numbers just to share, just my anecdotal experiences.. in that regard Id say the G4 battery life is similar to that of my Galaxy S3. That isn't bad but it's just not nearly as good as the reported battery life from some of the newer flagship devices. Either way I gotta say that when people post that they get 5+ hours of screen-on time that it's hard to believe.
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I would agree with this summary.
I returned my G4, and have gone back to my S3 for now. The battery issues with the G4 got me paying more attention to the run-time on my S3.
It looks like I've had GSam installed since right after I got my S3 in December 2012. According to GSam, if I'm reading the page correctly, under "Averages Per Complete Charge", it says my Screen On Max is 2:15. Maybe meaning that I've never exceeded 2:15 of SOT? That doesn't seem very impressive at all, but I'd believe that number.
My signal at work varies. In some areas of the building I have no signal at all. So depending on where I'm spending time during the day, my battery can see a bigger drain. But nowadays, if I'm using the screen much at all, I typically try to put my S3 on the charger during the day, to avoid the battery sometimes getting low towards the end of the day. While I had my G4, I was finding similar behavior, I'd need to put it on the charger again at work. Mine was running warm, which probably didn't help.
The S3 is using a 2.5 year old battery, though, and the G4's battery is almost 50% bigger (3000 vs 2100). So seeing similar run-time was not impressive to me, on my particular G4.
First off I don't post often, so forgive me if I break rules. This topic is for discuss of current problems with the S10, S10+, S10E and there varients (Carrier/Unlocked). I will make some good points about the phone as well. Take it with a grain please.
I have the S10+ from Verizon and my phone is up to date as of March 8 2019, the day I bought the phone.
I have noticed a large amount of problems within 2 days of owning my device. Note, I switched from my Note 9 for this.
Here are a list of problems I have noticed, and how I remedied them.
1. Call volume - There is no more sound boost, and calls generally result in low output of the top speaker phone, resulting in a very hard time for me and no sure way to cure this problem as of right now. Note, I have hearing damage from the army, Note 9 was fine without call boost on.
2. Full screen for games is a now hidden feature almost, after some reading and digging, the solution I found is to manually go to phone settings -> display -> full screen apps -> select the app -> change auto to full screen default. Annoying given that my Note 9 and other Galaxy devices all had a toggle option inside each game for full and non full screen.
3. Substratum, A fonts do not install overlays anymore, Andromeda will bootloop your phone. Why... ?. Now I know this is more of Google than samsung, but man does it suck not being able to choose my favorite font and use flux for substratum to change those ugly indicators at the top. No solution, hopefully someone will find a workaround. I don't mind buying something that looks good, but theme store is literally filled with trash, Sorry.
4. Heating, pretty much all of my other phones never got anywhere near as hot and as often as this device did... I'm running the same settings and everything for the phone its self and for games themselves as well. My phone is constantly hot and even when not in use I can feel the warm device on my thigh whilst in my pocket. Solution, nothing.
5. Even though there is a indicators for the new fingerprint scanner under the display, it sometimes doesn't show and even if it does it's still hard to find. I find myself guessing most of the time with hope to get it right. Better indicator would be nice.
6. Fingerprint scanner, I have put several fingerprint on file of my right thumb and still have issues picking up the fingerprint to unlock without smashing down on the display for a clean crisp pickup. IDK what to say here. Kinda sucks but I still love it.
7. Display brightness outside, I cannot see the screen at all! When I'm outside and Max brightness is on. Help.
Nothing more as far as right now that's it.
Here is some ups thought.
1. Man that HDR 10+ is nice, I notice it right away with games and watching movies, YouTube, etc. Even with low lighting on my display, I can still see colors vividly and distinctly. GJ Sammy!
2. Better audio then the last as usual, distinctly sound with smooth crisp quality from both speakers. Makes great for gaming and movies ?
3. Fast fast fast fast, I noticed the difference and it is very much faster then the Note 9
4. Them cameras though.. ? dare I say more...
Not much more to say, again grain of salt. This is my first big post, let me know what you think and how you feel. Could any of these issues be fixed that I haven't already and how? Note, this was written on my S10+ so I'm gonna go put my hands in ice. ?
Get a replacement it should not overheat just be warm, especially if you are holding the device without a case and have max brightness the device is so thin you feel the heat from the display it is not overheating. if it is then get a replacement
My Full screen apps was on by default not off
Dude its a brand new device substratum and the separate theme developers will have to update there themes and app / service to work with it , it just came out and people that pre ordered not all have even gotten them yet. Be patient and substratum will come this is not the devices fault besides Samsung doesn't even want substratum is third party software not installed by default not a part of Samsung and cant blame the S10 for that its just a brand new phone. give it time and sub devs will fix it.
Dude you can easily see the screen in max brightness is on, in the most sunny situations, you must have poor vision I do too and can still see it or you've got a faulty device and need a replacement.
I have vision problems and I can always see the fingerprint sensor indicators it only shows on the lockscreen if it is on why would it show when the display is off, this is user error not device error.
I'm not a **** I just have autism.
Xak said:
Get a replacement it should not overheat just be warm, especially if you are holding the device without a case and have max brightness the device is so thin you feel the heat from the display it is not overheating. if it is then get a replacement
My Full screen apps was on by default not off
Dude its a brand new device substratum and the separate theme developers will have to update there themes and app / service to work with it , it just came out and people that pre ordered not all have even gotten them yet. Be patient and substratum will come this is not the devices fault besides Samsung doesn't even want substratum is third party software not installed by default not a part of Samsung and cant blame the S10 for that its just a brand new phone. give it time and sub devs will fix it.
Dude you can easily see the screen in max brightness is on, in the most sunny situations, you must have poor vision I do too and can still see it or you've got a faulty device and need a replacement.
I have vision problems and I can always see the fingerprint sensor indicators it only shows on the lockscreen if it is on why would it show when the display is off, this is user error not device error.
I'm not a **** I just have autism.
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I'm biding my time with it, I'm sure updates will fix everything. Thanks for your imput.
Display Problem
When I use Natural Display mode Everything is fine, But When i shift to Vivid mode.. Images get washed out and pale(Characters).
I tried multiple devices in the stores to check if that's only for me and realised its the same for all devices.
The S9 Image result is better than S10 plus(I was Shocked)
And then When i use Video Enhancer the Videos also get washed out
Frustated me tried to figure out the problem.
Opened an image in instagram, and the same image in Chrome(web insta), and one in GB insta(Mod app) The mod app looks closer the the real image. And When i open an image in Google Drive it was fine but when i download and open in photos app it has the same problem.
PS: its an image rendered personally by me. not a weird image that has some format issues
Tried to record a video with the difference, but it was not showing up on the video.
Did anyone have this issue?????
Can't see any query regarding this
DetoxVenom said:
First off I don't post often, so forgive me if I break rules. This topic is for discuss of current problems with the S10, S10+, S10E and there varients (Carrier/Unlocked). I will make some good points about the phone as well. Take it with a grain please.
I have the S10+ from Verizon and my phone is up to date as of March 8 2019, the day I bought the phone.
I have noticed a large amount of problems within 2 days of owning my device. Note, I switched from my Note 9 for this.
Here are a list of problems I have noticed, and how I remedied them.
1. Call volume - There is no more sound boost, and calls generally result in low output of the top speaker phone, resulting in a very hard time for me and no sure way to cure this problem as of right now. Note, I have hearing damage from the army, Note 9 was fine without call boost on.
2. Full screen for games is a now hidden feature almost, after some reading and digging, the solution I found is to manually go to phone settings -> display -> full screen apps -> select the app -> change auto to full screen default. Annoying given that my Note 9 and other Galaxy devices all had a toggle option inside each game for full and non full screen.
3. Substratum, A fonts do not install overlays anymore, Andromeda will bootloop your phone. Why... ?. Now I know this is more of Google than samsung, but man does it suck not being able to choose my favorite font and use flux for substratum to change those ugly indicators at the top. No solution, hopefully someone will find a workaround. I don't mind buying something that looks good, but theme store is literally filled with trash, Sorry.
4. Heating, pretty much all of my other phones never got anywhere near as hot and as often as this device did... I'm running the same settings and everything for the phone its self and for games themselves as well. My phone is constantly hot and even when not in use I can feel the warm device on my thigh whilst in my pocket. Solution, nothing.
5. Even though there is a indicators for the new fingerprint scanner under the display, it sometimes doesn't show and even if it does it's still hard to find. I find myself guessing most of the time with hope to get it right. Better indicator would be nice.
6. Fingerprint scanner, I have put several fingerprint on file of my right thumb and still have issues picking up the fingerprint to unlock without smashing down on the display for a clean crisp pickup. IDK what to say here. Kinda sucks but I still love it.
7. Display brightness outside, I cannot see the screen at all! When I'm outside and Max brightness is on. Help.
Nothing more as far as right now that's it.
Here is some ups thought.
1. Man that HDR 10+ is nice, I notice it right away with games and watching movies, YouTube, etc. Even with low lighting on my display, I can still see colors vividly and distinctly. GJ Sammy!
2. Better audio then the last as usual, distinctly sound with smooth crisp quality from both speakers. Makes great for gaming and movies ?
3. Fast fast fast fast, I noticed the difference and it is very much faster then the Note 9
4. Them cameras though.. ? dare I say more...
Not much more to say, again grain of salt. This is my first big post, let me know what you think and how you feel. Could any of these issues be fixed that I haven't already and how? Note, this was written on my S10+ so I'm gonna go put my hands in ice. ?
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1. Call volume is fine for me. Just as loud or louder than the 9+ I came from.
2. I'm not much of a gamer, but clash of clans worked just fine when I loaded it up. Also worked fine using a game cloner with clash of clans.
3. This right here is why I stopped using things like substratum, magisk etc. Google ends up breaking them every update. With OneUI dark mode, I no longer feel the need to theme.
4. I have zero heart issues. In fact, even when I'd have heat issues on the 9+, I don't have them on the 10+. That's despite them shoving everything into a smaller phone with a bigger battery!
5. My fp icon works just fine. The only place it doesn't is using the Goodlock lockscreen.
6. The ASAB update helped a ton with the fpr. It's very finicky when it's wireless charging though. I'm using the pre-installed screen protector. I'd try turning on the display sensitivity.
7. Mine is perfectly bright enough outside. I'm using Lux for controlling screen brightness but it shouldn't matter.
Ranganath_ said:
When I use Natural Display mode Everything is fine, But When i shift to Vivid mode.. Images get washed out and pale(Characters).
I tried multiple devices in the stores to check if that's only for me and realised its the same for all devices.
The S9 Image result is better than S10 plus(I was Shocked)
And then When i use Video Enhancer the Videos also get washed out
Frustated me tried to figure out the problem.
Opened an image in instagram, and the same image in Chrome(web insta), and one in GB insta(Mod app) The mod app looks closer the the real image. And When i open an image in Google Drive it was fine but when i download and open in photos app it has the same problem.
PS: its an image rendered personally by me. not a weird image that has some format issues
Tried to record a video with the difference, but it was not showing up on the video.
Did anyone have this issue?????
Can't see any query regarding this
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Yeah, I noticed that too.
Skins look very pale compared to my Note 9 and iPhone XS. I'm frustrated with this phone.
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I've been using the S10+ (Exynos) for a week and I'm very disappointed. I did an extensive comparison against my Note 9 and honestly I don't want to switch.
1. CAMERA: The cameras on the S10+ are worse than the Note 9, specially in low light conditions. Poor detail and blurry areas. Note 9 has Sony IMX camera sensors while the S10+ has ISOCELL.
2. DISPLAY: Not as bright as my Note 9. Whites are very muted and reds look yellowish/pale specially in human skins.
3. BATTERY: Definitely not better than my Note 9.
4. THERMALS: It gets hot so easily even when using low demanding tasks.
5. GAMING: It's impossible to run games at truly full resolution now that Game Tuner is gone. Also, in PUBG I notice constantly frame drops while in my Note 9 it's a smooth experience.
I'm sad. This device is so beautiful but it's a shame that Samsung didn't care about the actual performance.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's discovered that they are again placing different screens and camera sensors as in previous generations...
DetoxVenom said:
2. Full screen for games is a now hidden feature almost, after some reading and digging, the solution I found is to manually go to phone settings -> display -> full screen apps -> select the app -> change auto to full screen default. Annoying given that my Note 9 and other Galaxy devices all had a toggle option inside each game for full and non full screen.
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open your app switcher and tap the app icon.
I can't really help with the rest, but I figured this out when I updated my S9+ to 9.0.
Like that
twelvematic said:
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Skins look very pale compared to my Note 9 and iPhone XS. I'm frustrated with this phone.
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I've been using the S10+ (Exynos) for a week and I'm very disappointed. I did an extensive comparison against my Note 9 and honestly I don't want to switch.
1. CAMERA: The cameras on the S10+ are worse than the Note 9, specially in low light conditions. Poor detail and blurry areas. Note 9 has Sony IMX camera sensors while the S10+ has ISOCELL.
2. DISPLAY: Not as bright as my Note 9. Whites are very muted and reds look yellowish/pale specially in human skins.
3. BATTERY: Definitely not better than my Note 9.
4. THERMALS: It gets hot so easily even when using low demanding tasks.
5. GAMING: It's impossible to run games at truly full resolution now that Game Tuner is gone. Also, in PUBG I notice constantly frame drops while in my Note 9 it's a smooth experience.
I'm sad. This device is so beautiful but it's a shame that Samsung didn't care about the actual performance.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's discovered that they are again placing different screens and camera sensors as in previous generations...
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So I have an Exynos S9+ that I can compare to my Snapdragon S10+ for this.
1. near identical for me, but I'm not a shutterbug. I do really like the ultrawide angle, though.
2. So I set my screen mode to vivid, and then all the way to cool. I can still see a warmer tone on the S10+, but it doesn't bother me. I almost prefer it. Brightness looks the same to me, but I have no way of measuring this. the other stuff, I just do not see.
3. Battery is waaaaaay better, but my S9+ has like a 3,500Mah I think.
4. Thermal feels fine. Didn't measure. Just seems okay to me.
5. I had this issue with every Exynos phone. My SD S10+ runs PUBG at max settings with zero stutter. My S9+ dropped frames a lot.
Honestly, if you're happy with your Note 9, save your money, but part of your issue may just be Exynos, not the S10.
I'm comparing to my previous S7 Edge, so the difference in generations is noticeable compared to people switching from the S9 or Note 9.
SPEED: The SPEED of the phone is truly amazing. No lag, no stutters, apps start very very quick. I don't do a lot of gaming except some card games and the phone never really gets hot.
I also noticed that there is no slowdown while charging the phone, which was a real PITA with the S7.
DISPLAY: The display is AMAZING, but compared to my wife's S9+ there is not that much of a difference. They're both great screens.
BATTERY: I had an ageing phone with a smaller battery so the endurance of this phone is stellar for me. I can easily survive the day. And because I charge the phone wireless in the car when going from/to home I never run out. I never charge above 80% btw to avoid battery wear as suggested by the developers of AccuBattery.
UNLOCKING: I'm not happy with the FPS. I was hoping that the new ultrasonic technology would work flawlessly, but I'm having 50% chances to unlock. So I use the (not very secure) facial unlock for now.
CAMERA: I don't really use the camera that much except for some occassional snap with friends, but I can still see the huge improvement over the S7. Not that much over the S9 though, although like I said, I don't really use it that much.
I've got the Exynos s10+ andhave come from a note 4 so everything is a pretty big upgrade.
My two gripes: the fingerprint reader is frustrating, but more importantly - no notification LED! I thought that edge lighting was going to be the substitute for that but apparently that's not how it works. Any solutions there?
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Yeah, I noticed that too.
Skins look very pale compared to my Note 9 and iPhone XS. I'm frustrated with this phone.
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I've been using the S10+ (Exynos) for a week and I'm very disappointed. I did an extensive comparison against my Note 9 and honestly I don't want to switch.
1. CAMERA: The cameras on the S10+ are worse than the Note 9, specially in low light conditions. Poor detail and blurry areas. Note 9 has Sony IMX camera sensors while the S10+ has ISOCELL.
2. DISPLAY: Not as bright as my Note 9. Whites are very muted and reds look yellowish/pale specially in human skins.
3. BATTERY: Definitely not better than my Note 9.
4. THERMALS: It gets hot so easily even when using low demanding tasks.
5. GAMING: It's impossible to run games at truly full resolution now that Game Tuner is gone. Also, in PUBG I notice constantly frame drops while in my Note 9 it's a smooth experience.
I'm sad. This device is so beautiful but it's a shame that Samsung didn't care about the actual performance.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's discovered that they are again placing different screens and camera sensors as in previous generations...
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Yeah note was a better device for sure. Specially for gaming.
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I'm comparing to my previous S7 Edge, so the difference in generations is noticeable compared to people switching from the S9 or Note 9.
SPEED: The SPEED of the phone is truly amazing. No lag, no stutters, apps start very very quick. I don't do a lot of gaming except some card games and the phone never really gets hot.
I also noticed that there is no slowdown while charging the phone, which was a real PITA with the S7.
DISPLAY: The display is AMAZING, but compared to my wife's S9+ there is not that much of a difference. They're both great screens.
BATTERY: I had an ageing phone with a smaller battery so the endurance of this phone is stellar for me. I can easily survive the day. And because I charge the phone wireless in the car when going from/to home I never run out. I never charge above 80% btw to avoid battery wear as suggested by the developers of AccuBattery.
UNLOCKING: I'm not happy with the FPS. I was hoping that the new ultrasonic technology would work flawlessly, but I'm having 50% chances to unlock. So I use the (not very secure) facial unlock for now.
CAMERA: I don't really use the camera that much except for some occassional snap with friends, but I can still see the huge improvement over the S7. Not that much over the S9 though, although like I said, I don't really use it that much.
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So it's just me that sees lags then. Or is it because I'm coming from the OnePlus 6T. Fluidity King.
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So it's just me that sees lags then. Or is it because I'm coming from the OnePlus 6T. Fluidity King.
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I honestly don't know. Everything I do is blazing fast, no stutters. (Except the FPS which is slowww).
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So it's just me that sees lags then. Or is it because I'm coming from the OnePlus 6T. Fluidity King.
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Turn on the profile GPU rendering and shows us your lags then.
i miss the security of the iris scanner
My S10+ SD is One of the sleekest fastest feeling devices I've handled! ?
1. Call volume is fine for me.
2. Notch affects some games, but can adjust most by NOT selecting full screen. SOME don't work full screen even when toggled on
3. I have zero heat issues because the battery is SO BAD it doesn't last long enough to create any heat.
4. The FP is simply UNUSABLE! It's so unreliable it's easier to have it off.
5. Screen brightness is fine for me in direct sunlight , with sunglasses on even.
6. Noticing lagginess also the more I use it, specifically with the browser (chrome). Never experienced this type of lag with the previous 5 Samsung devices??
Kudos to anyone willing to wait through hopeful software updates, apply tricks to TRY to get he phone to work the way it should out of the box. I'm not that guy. This is going back. It's far more hassle to try to use it the way I'm used to. The Note 9 works much better than this crap.
GPU Performance
Geekbench GPU benchmarks / Note 9 (Snapdragon) vs S10+ (Exynos)
Pff...
unlocked bootloader and easy root must be available out of the box !!
everything is wrong with sams s10+ !!
Anyone ever notice their phone getting hot and shutting down features or even turning off? I know this might be kinda extreme... My 6 pro has been shutting down all sorts of things just to cool the phone and eventually shutting off. This has been happening while I'm in a sauna after working out with the lowest brightness on even. But my Note 10 plus never even mentioned anything to me ever even with full brightness. Thanks for the help
It happened to me once with a Galaxy S7 but it was in a heatwave that said I read on forums that several users complained about an overheating problem on the pixel 6.
As the chip is made in partnership with Samsung and it is well known that exynos chips overheat other than waiting for software upgrades or sending it back there is nothing that can be done.
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My 6 pro has been shutting down [...] while I'm in a sauna.
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But my Note 10 plus never even mentioned anything to me ever even with full brightness. Thanks for the help
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Interesting that your Note 10 Plus works in a sauna-environment. I would definitely call that an extreme situation where no phones needs to properly work, after all we are talking about an ambient temperature of ~ 65°C to 90°C, that's much hotter than even a desert. Most commercial products only operate up until 70° Celsius, Industrial usually up to 85°, Military ones even higher.
Personally I would never/have never taken my phone inside a sauna out of fear it might get damaged, after all it's a thousand dollar product. Treating it with care and caution is usually a wise choice, if longevity is of any concern.
Most smartphone (and desktop) processors can only take about ~100 Degrees Celsius (internal, chip temperature), before they throttle down into the abyss and try to cool down (to prevent permanent damage). But if they are in a sauna... there is no cooling down, lol. Afterall they lack a dedicated fan. As an example: It's a situation comparable with your ambient room temperature in the summer - if you have 30° Celsius in your room, but outside it's 40°, your room of course will not cool down, but heat up even more. ESPECIALLY not if you have several heaters on (= processor, display, et cetera).
That's why it's quite the achievement of your Note 10 to properly function in that kind of situation, that seems like a well-balanced phone in terms of heat/cooling. Props to Samsung in that case.
According to several reports in this forum, Tensor can get quite toasty, even in a normal environment. It shutting down in a sauna does not surprise me. There's probably nothing that you can do here, expect switch the phone or hope for a Google firmware update that lowers the coreclock.
I haven't had any overheating. I think the very first day when I was setting up the phone and restoring from my cloud backup it got a little warm, but mine hasn't overheated at all or shut down anything. I am probably not pushing the envelope of what any phone could handle, however.
Haven't witnessed any overheating on my unit.
Never had this happen on any of my recent phones including my Note 10 plus and my buddy has a new 20 Samsung as well.. No problems for them or anyone else with their iphones and a few others while they are in sauna as well.. even my samsung ear buds murder this thing lol
NOTE TO ALL POTENTIAL 6 OR 6P BUYERS: this is not a common phenomenon. Just want to put that out there.
I use GSAM bettery monitor (with the ADB mods) and it works great to watch the temp. Once or maybe twice it got warm (107F) when I was backing up the entire unit to my NAS (or vice versa). Ever since it gets warmer when I use it more, and then cooler when I don't.
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Anyone ever notice their phone getting hot and shutting down features or even turning off? I know this might be kinda extreme... My 6 pro has been shutting down all sorts of things just to cool the phone and eventually shutting off. This has been happening while I'm in a sauna after working out with the lowest brightness on even. But my Note 10 plus never even mentioned anything to me ever even with full brightness. Thanks for the help
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I think you answered your own question buddy... The temperature in the sauna ranges typically between 60oC to 95oC. Your Pixel phone is designed to operate up to 45oC at extreme situations.
I'm afraid the problem lies with the owner in your case, not the device itself.
A Sauna?! A SAUNA?? Did I read that right? I .... I .... I just don't understand. And when my sister "washes" her Galaxy S20 under the tap, the first thing she says: "Samsung says it's OK! The phone is Waterproof and Heat Proof and Mud Proof!" ... ok the last two things are false but every galaxy owner I've come across thinks their phone can be used in a shower, hmmm....
Again... I knew I would catch some crap for posting this.. but I'm trying to figure out why most and yes I said most phones do not have a problem including my old note 10+ and also my other friends phones and random people as well..
My Note would be full brightness and wouldn't even really feel hot. Warm yes and it would continue to work just perfect.. I even tried to put my 6 pro in battery saver mode which shuts down cores and it still could not last 5 mins at the lowest brightness.. My Note in performance mode and full brightness would last the full 25+ minutes I would be in there.
Looking for advice or answers. I've stated comparisons with the same scenarios with two completely different phones of my own along with others. One works great and another does not..
TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
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Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.
Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.
I will probably update to the pixel 8 pro after my 6 pro. I think even the 6 pro is worth getting for $250. I have lineage os 20 on my 6 pro and those updates should last quite a while. I'd invest in it.
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TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.
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Also, considering custom Roms and GSI, you can run anything you want. Like my backup phone, Oneplus Nord N10 5G only got android 11, and ROM support is dead for it. It is running Crdoid 2/20/2023 android 13 GSI ROM with 0 issues
Custom ROMs and GSI (Generic System Image) provide an opportunity for users to install and run a different version of the Android operating system on their devices. They are particularly useful for devices that no longer receive official software updates or have limited support from the manufacturer.
In the case mentioned, the Oneplus Nord N10 5G only had official support up to Android 11 and no longer received updates. However, the user was able to install a custom ROM called Crdoid 2/20/2023 based on Android 13 GSI, which allowed them to run the latest version of Android on their device without issues.
Custom ROMs and GSI may require some technical knowledge and effort to install, but they offer the flexibility to customize and modify the device's software to suit individual preferences. They also provide an opportunity to extend the lifespan of older devices by enabling them to run newer software.
However, it is essential to note that installing custom ROMs or GSI may void the device's warranty and can also pose some security risks if not done correctly. It is always advisable to research and follow the installation instructions carefully, and only install ROMs from trusted sources.
skoda9635 said:
Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.
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I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.
MapzOr said:
I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.
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Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.
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Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.
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I have seen several reviews and almost no one mentioned the issues I faced, especially the battery drain on LTE and ultra wide camera.