My phone shipped from Amazon today and due Monday. Does anyone know if the US unlocked variant shipp with both sims (nano and eSiM) active? Need dual SIMs for work so hoping it does.
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My phone shipped from Amazon today and due Monday. Does anyone know if the US unlocked variant shipp with both sims (nano and eSiM) active? Need dual SIMs for work so hoping it does.
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I checked Motorola's site earlier today, in the specs section, down in the fine print notes, it states Dual-Sim capabilities will be introduced at a later date & may vary depending on carrier model.
At the minimum, sounds like you may have to wait for a software update to enable Dual-Sim capabilities.
Ordered mine from Motorola yesterday and hoping it comes with dual standby. However, I checked out a T-Mobile version yesterday and although it allowed to hot-swap swap from Nano to eSIM in the software it only had one IMEI number... Hoping the unlocked version maybe different but no software update can alter the missing IMEI. Fingers crossed but honestly not hopeful.
Mine is on the UPS truck for delivery this afternoon (unlocked version bought on Amazon) - earlier than expected so I will be able to report back after I have it. I'd read the info on the motorola website mentioned above and was hoping to get a definitive answer.
I got my unlocked Razr 5G (from Amazon) today. Box only shows 1 IMEI. Pretty sweet device - just working on setup but I can report that 1) both eSIM and the Nano SIM work BUT (and this is a really big BUT), only one can be active at a time. I started with my AT&T nano SIM in the device and it works great. I then switched to the eSIM and added my UK eSIM plan to the phone.
I was then able to go back & forth between the SIMs using the switch SIM menu option and it worked fine but only one can be Active at a time so when AT&T is active, no calls, etc on UK eSIM and vice-versa.
So, while it is technically a dual SIM phone, it does not behave as you would expect (or prefer) for a true dual active-dual sim phone. Given the box only shows 1 IMEI i'm doubtful the phone will ever be dual standby (which would require 2 IMEI's) so I'm not sure if I'll be able to use this as a daily driver or not.
Mine is the US version - nXT2071-3 - hopefully someone in the UK or elsewhere with a different model/firmware can confirm if another version is true dual SIM.
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I got my unlocked Razr 5G (from Amazon) today. Box only shows 1 IMEI. Pretty sweet device - just working on setup but I can report that 1) both eSIM and the Nano SIM work BUT (and this is a really big BUT), only one can be active at a time. I started with my AT&T nano SIM in the device and it works great. I then switched to the eSIM and added my UK eSIM plan to the phone.
I was then able to go back & forth between the SIMs using the switch SIM menu option and it worked fine but only one can be Active at a time so when AT&T is active, no calls, etc on UK eSIM and vice-versa.
So, while it is technically a dual SIM phone, it does not behave as you would expect (or prefer) for a true dual active-dual sim phone. Given the box only shows 1 IMEI i'm doubtful the phone will ever be dual standby (which would require 2 IMEI's) so I'm not sure if I'll be able to use this as a daily driver or not.
Mine is the US version - nXT2071-3 - hopefully someone in the UK or elsewhere with a different model/firmware can confirm if another version is true dual SIM.
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But... i have dual Sim smartphone, and it uses 2 nano-sims. I have them both activated and so the phone shows the two IMEI (from both carrier sims). My previous non chinese smartphone was an iPhone 11 and it had esim and a sim slot. So I used the first e-sim with my Canadian carrier and the sim card slot with my other canadian carrier. I could use both phone numbers on the same device but if one phone number rang on the phone I could not receive an inbound call on the second number.
Is that not how the Razr 5G works?
US variant (XT2071-3) that I got does not work like an iphone 11 (which i what I have now and,like you have one carrier using nano sim and another using eSIM) and both can send/receive calls and text - though like you said not at once- and it can do that because it has 2 unique IMEI and which allows it to register on 2 different networks. Moto XT2071-3 only have 1 IMEI - can only have 1 number on at a time and when one is on, the other is off - doesn't receive calls/texts when off.
EU variant XT2071-4 is supposed to come with 2 IMEI to work like your iphone 11 - both sims can be on and get calls/text. Very few have been shipped. i have one on order and will confirm when i get it. if that one works, i will keep it. The one i got from AMAZON is going to be returned since I can't use it.
I would guess that Dual SIM Dual Standby for 5G is coming with Android 11. It was the case with the OnePlus phones and perhaps that feature isn't available with Android 10. Are there any Dual SIM 5G phones with Android 10? This article helped explain the situation (along with the comments below) Android Authority Dual SIM 5G phones
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I would guess that Dual SIM Dual Standby for 5G is coming with Android 11.
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I got a UK version XT2071-4 and can report it is a true dual sim phone. Box shows dual SIM’s and I was able to load my US ATT eSIM and my Starhub nano sim on the phone and it works. You can’t use 5G in dual sim mode - probably something about the modem but it works great in 4G LTE with both sims. The global version is missing a few US specific bands though, running on ATT, not missed very much. So far so good. While the build quality isn’t as good (more plastic) I like the smaller form factor over the z-flip and the close to vanilla Android is nice. Happy camper now with full dual sim model - the us model I got from Amazon is going back. Now I just need a decent case...
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Evil Samsung does not sell dual sim models in Australia... Is there a way to use two sims in their single sim phones? Was this ever possible with S7 and S8 phones?
I have an international model S7 edge but decided to get an Australian S9+ because they receive better service and support here, well, actually I broke the screen of that S7 edge, again, and the repairing cost by a 3rd party just made it pointless, all because Samsung Australia won't repair it for me (for a more reasonable A$210) for it is an international model (UAE).
If this is technically possible, best case scenario I just need to find a correct SIM tray?
You can use two different SIMs if the phone is not locked to a particular network.
However, if the phone is not Dual SIM, you will not manage to use both cards at the same time.
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You can use two different SIMs if the phone is not locked to a particular network.
However, if the phone is not Dual SIM, you will not manage to use both cards at the same time.
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So you are saying the hardware is there, but the software won't allow me to use both SIMs at the same time?
I take it as flashing dual SIM ROM would not only void warranty, but beats the purpose of buying an authentic local market device in the first place?
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So you are saying the hardware is there, but the software won't allow me to use both SIMs at the same time?
I take it as flashing dual SIM ROM would not only void warranty, but beats the purpose of buying an authentic local market device in the first place?
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No, what I mean is that you can use two SIM by switching them and having only one at a time inserted in the phone.
If the phone is not dual SIM, you can have two SIM cards working on it only if the phone is a Hybrid Dual SIM.
If the phone is SINGLE SIM, you can't do anything about it.
Hope that this answers your question.
Just want to verify this phone works appropriately with Verizon. I see nothing on this from Verizon's website and nothing more than a few mentions in press releases. Does the lte-a work correctly? Can we access Verizon features like video calling? Does Verizon staff give you problems trying to register the phone?
Can't wait to hear some first hand experience.
wondering the same thing actually
https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/device-showcase/device/7466
Looks good enough for me. I'm about to order one from clove, will update when it gets here if this thread still needs some answers. I hope volte works. Wifi calling would be a cherry on top.
Yup! Having it working on my XZ2 Compact. Didn't originally want to connect, so I flashed the OEM+OEM_Other.sin files from the US version and now I have Verizon working without a hitch. VoLTE is enabled for Verizon by default since it can only connect over LTE to begin with, but no WiFi calling. That being said and it being a dual SIM device, my secondary T-Mobile SIM has access to neither VoLTE or WiFi Calling. So I have calling set up for Verizon and Data over T-Mobile. You're able to do dual LTE standby on this device.
So now that this works with Verizon I should be able to buy the duel sim version and run both my personal At&t sim and my Verizon work sim card in this phone with duel standby? No flashing any software?
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[...] ... I flashed the OEM+OEM_Extra.sin files from the US version and now I have Verizon working without a hitch. [...]
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Does flashing these have any affect on DRM keys and such? I'm going to be getting a H813, but with UK software from clove so I'll need to do the same thing I'm guessing.
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Does flashing these have any affect on DRM keys and such? I'm going to be getting a H813, but with UK software from clove so I'll need to do the same thing I'm guessing.
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Are the frequency's for both of these phones the same? Only difference would be that one is duel sim and the other isnt correct?
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Are the frequency's for both of these phones the same? Only difference would be that one is duel sim and the other isnt correct?
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I believe so. H8324 is the Asian dual SIM and H8314 is the Western single sim. I wasn't checking all the bands but both phones have all three of Verizon's LTE bands supported
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I believe so. H8324 is the Asian dual SIM and H8314 is the Western single sim. I wasn't checking all the bands but both phones have all three of Verizon's LTE bands supported
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Just ordered the duel sim version and should have it by Wednesday. I currently have both an At&t personal phone and a Verizon work phone. Plan is to combine them both in this duel sim phone and only have to carry one haha. If it doesnt work out for whatever reason il just try google voice for my work number i suppose.
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Yup! Having it working on my XZ2 Compact. Didn't originally want to connect, so I flashed the OEM+OEM_Extra.sin files from the US version and now I have Verizon working without a hitch. VoLTE is enabled for Verizon by default since it can only connect over LTE to begin with, but no WiFi calling. That being said and it being a dual SIM device, my secondary T-Mobile SIM has access to neither VoLTE or WiFi Calling. So I have calling set up for Verizon and Data over T-Mobile. You're able to do dual LTE standby on this device.
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Having some issues with my XZ2 Compact Duel sim. With At&t I am only getting H and H+ connection and Verizon I cant seem to get anything to work. What APN did you pick for your Verizon sim, i have choices of CBS, FOTA, IMS and Internet.
So I have some more information that may help someone or may not. After talking with Verizon in depth about my issue with connecting to their service they have determined that the XZ2 Compact will not work on their service. Even with it being labeled as an Certified Open Market device on their own site and even being listed as Verizon Compatible on Bestbuys site and many others. They said noone there has any knowledge of the device coming to Verizon at all and were confused about it being posted on all the sites as being Certified. So i suppose it just wont be compatible lol. I guess im porting my 2nd # over to at&t and just not dealing with it because im sure as heck not going through the hassle of sending this phone and the chargers and cases back lol. If anyone has any success on getting this connected with Verizon please post, but im not hopeful lol.
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So I have some more information that may help someone or may not. After talking with Verizon in depth about my issue with connecting to their service they have determined that the XZ2 Compact will not work on their service. Even with it being labeled as an Certified Open Market device on their own site and even being listed as Verizon Compatible on Bestbuys site and many others. They said noone there has any knowledge of the device coming to Verizon at all and were confused about it being posted on all the sites as being Certified. So i suppose it just wont be compatible lol. I guess im porting my 2nd # over to at&t and just not dealing with it because im sure as heck not going through the hassle of sending this phone and the chargers and cases back lol. If anyone has any success on getting this connected with Verizon please post, but im not hopeful lol.
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I love Verizon but I was actually thinking of going to AT&T myself tired of Verizon having such a limited phone selection. However there is a post in this thread by the name of themoveforward or something who claims he got this working on verizon you may want to try his methods before making the switch
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I love Verizon but I was actually thinking of going to AT&T myself tired of Verizon having such a limited phone selection. However there is a post in this thread by the name of themoveforward or something who claims he got this working on verizon you may want to try his methods before making the switch
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I tried sending him a message but haven't heard back. I'm assuming perhaps he was mistaken about what phone this post was referring to.
I believe carol_vzw is a Verizon employee who maintains this list: https://community.verizonwireless.com/docs/DOC-2843
The H8314 is listed on here as officially supported, but H8324(dual SIM) is not. You could try messaging her on there to see if they can add the H8324, or find out why it's not compatible.
Edit: looks like you've already seen this based on the comments
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I believe carol_vzw is a Verizon employee who maintains this list: https://community.verizonwireless.com/docs/DOC-2843
The H8314 is listed on here as officially supported, but H8324(dual SIM) is not. You could try messaging her on there to see if they can add the H8324, or find out why it's not compatible.
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Yea the crazy thing is while talking to Verizon support yesterday i referenced that post and also Bestbuy having it labeled as for Verizon as well as the phone being posted on their Showcase directly on the Verizon site lol. The support guy kept putting me on hold and said he was taking the info as I was giving it to him to another support team directly and that they were all baffled at this information as none of them had any knowledge of this phone let alone it supposedly being compatible with Verizon at all. After about an hour into the call a woman picked up the phone and directed me to attempt to put my new sim card (when i swapped to this phone i had a micro-sim from my old phone not a nano-sim which this phone needs) directly into someone elses phone that has Verizon and attempt to activate the sim card on their phone, then attempt to reinsert it back into my phone to see if the network picked up. I will be attempting this in about an hour when I see a friend who has Verizon. I will update on whether this works or not.
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Yea the crazy thing is while talking to Verizon support yesterday i referenced that post and also Bestbuy having it labeled as for Verizon as well as the phone being posted on their Showcase directly on the Verizon site lol. The support guy kept putting me on hold and said he was taking the info as I was giving it to him to another support team directly and that they were all baffled at this information as none of them had any knowledge of this phone let alone it supposedly being compatible with Verizon at all. After about an hour into the call a woman picked up the phone and directed me to attempt to put my new sim card (when i swapped to this phone i had a micro-sim from my old phone not a nano-sim which this phone needs) directly into someone elses phone that has Verizon and attempt to activate the sim card on their phone, then attempt to reinsert it back into my phone to see if the network picked up. I will be attempting this in about an hour when I see a friend who has Verizon. I will update on whether this works or not.
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If its any hope, I had a similar situation when I was trying to activate my Nexus 5x on Verizon. The people in the store didn't know that it existed and had no instructions on what to do. Also my first nano SIM phone, and they couldn't get it to activate. That's when I learned to never go to their stores for technical help. But it was worth it that time because they let me keep the sim card and later I was able to get someone on their tech support number who was able to activate it remotely. It could just be that the phone is new and information hasn't gotten around internally. Verizon seems pretty bad about that.
My xz2c single sim package got lost on Wednesday by DHL ? but I'm going to be dealing with this soon
Well no luck trying to activate the Sim with another Verizon phone. It seems that the phone just isn't in the Verizon system yet.
I have a UK single sim that I'm having no service with Verizon. Not sure if it's due to the phone being from the UK or something else with Verizon maybe. Trying to flash the US firmware but having problems with Newflasher.
If I have any luck I'll post back here.
Just posting for others who may be curious; I was able to get the phone working on Verizon today. Using the sim from an already activated pixel 2 initially worked for data and calling, and sending text messages, but I could not receive text messages. I grabbed an updated sim (says 4G LTE on it) and activated it on the pixel 2, then moved it to the xz2c and currently have everything working. It's only been a few hours so we'll see if it stays like this or if it goes the way of the htc U11 and has problems every couple of weeks. I'm using the verizon approved H8314 single sim model, not the dual sim model.
Interesting, thanks for the update! I'm using an activated sim from my Pixel 2 as well. It says 4G LTE on the sim too and my model xz2 compact is the same H8314. So maybe it is the UK firmware in my case, I'm going to keep trying to figure out my drivers issue this weekend to flash US firmware and see if that helps.
Does anyone know if any of the new Galaxy phones announced yesterday will have a dual sim (duos) version? I was hoping to get the Ultra 5G version with dual sim functinality. Obviously if dual sim models are not available, there won't be much to do about that. Maybe they come with e-sim functionliaty? I currently have an S10+ dual sim which takes both my work and personal sims and would like to continue doing that with the new Ultra in 5G.
what a mess and headache the upgrade has been so far - the site failed to finish my order 2 times and i ended up with 2 separate credit agreements with Klarna and 2x150GBP deposits paid, but still no order went thru to samsung so no phone preordered yet ----- they keep saying they will sort it but starting to really get fed up with them - every year same ****
As far as I could tell there was no dual-sim option available, at least on the UK website having pre-ordered myself last night. Still, the website was far from fully up after the announcement; I checked in around midnight to pre-order, and the product specification page for the ultra just resulted in 'under embargo' placeholders... only summary information, no telling whether the 512gb option was with 16gb of RAM at the time. Things cleared up by 2am, and I had pre-ordered the correct thing.
With regards to the pre-ordering option, I went with PayPal credit. I could pay for the phone outright, but why would you with 0% interest on finance? I'll keep my interest for the two years! No issue second time around, first time in my cart the website froze on the payment option screen so I had to start from scratch, but I definitely haven't been charged twice. Still, no discount applied going through the student portal (PhD student, but hey, can still try) and for some reason, the trade in value for a OnePlus 5 was £50 lower on the student portal than the usual one. Have none of the orders gone through then? You should receive an order confirmation in your email if it was successful, it's certainly odd that Klarna's charged you and not placed the order...
I'm still in debate about the case / screen protector combo to use for now, so will hold out until after delivery to see what's available. Did bag myself a SanDisk extreme pro 1TB card to pop into it when it arrives, call me old fashioned, but I like the space.
the upgrade program is different is when you get to upgrade to the new device half way thru the contract and return the old one and get the remaining credit written off ....is a good idea but terrible at times like these
upgrade programme takes Samsung a couple of days every year to work out the glitches.
I'm waiting a few days because last year i ordered my upgrade straight after the unpacked event, then a couple of days later I received an email re the upgrade with a £50 discount code
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Does anyone know if any of the new Galaxy phones announced yesterday will have a dual sim (duos) version? I was hoping to get the Ultra 5G version with dual sim functinality. Obviously if dual sim models are not available, there won't be much to do about that. Maybe they come with e-sim functionliaty? I currently have an S10+ dual sim which takes both my work and personal sims and would like to continue doing that with the new Ultra in 5G.
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For once its good news having the Exynos processor. This is what you get. Hybrid sim & eSim. This is how you can use them.
Hybrid sim - nano sim + micro SD card / nano sim + nano sim
If you activate eSim, this is what you get.
eSim + micro SD card / eSim + nano Sim
You cannot have 2 nano sims and an eSim , ie 3 sims
Trust this makes sense.
So you can have two sims active Either 2 physical nano sims or one physical nano sim and an eSim.
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For once its good news having the Exynos processor. This is what you get. Hybrid sim & eSim. This is how you can use them.
Hybrid sim - nano sim + micro SD card / nano sim + nano sim
If you activate eSim, this is what you get.
eSim + micro SD card / eSim + nano Sim
You cannot have 2 nano sims and an eSim , ie 3 sims
Trust this makes sense.
So you can have two sims active Either 2 physical nano sims or one physical nano sim and an eSim.
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Have been trying to figure this out the last couple of days, but there is no single good message around which models of the S20 will have dual sim support, even on samsung pages it says that it is "dependent on carriers and countries" which is not very helpful!
Thank you so much for this answer, it cleard out my last doubt about getting the SM-G988BZADEUA
The specs page says Pro 9 has dual Sim but all the press reviews say that the US Version will have only single sim. Does anyone know? If 9 Pro unlocked NA version is 1 sim I'm pretty bummed and pissed off, especially since my order tech sheet says dual sim.
I was just looking at the spec page on their website, and it says "Single nano-SIM slot". Fire up my VPN and go to the UK page, dual sim. Also, black version not available on US store.
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I was just looking at the spec page on their website, and it says "Single nano-SIM slot". Fire up my VPN and go to the UK page, dual sim. Also, black version not available on US store.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will you post if it works?
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That's a brilliant idea. Will you post if it works?
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I'm currently on the fence, mostly cause my current phone works and performs fine. But if I do, I'll post here.
I can report, I just got my US variant (AA) and the dual sim tray slot on the backside like normal had a plastic bar preventing the use of dual SIM...I wonder if it's also disabled in software as well if one were to get a dual sim card tray...
I just tried my dual SIM tray from my OnePlus 8 Pro and it will only recognize a SIM in the front slot. I assume the functionality is disabled in the rom.
BTW, the 8 Pro SIM tray doesn't quite go in all the way, it has a thicker red gasket for sealing than the 9 Pro does. It still works, just not flush with the body of the phone.
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I just tried my dual SIM tray from my OnePlus 8 Pro and it will only recognize a SIM in the front slot. I assume the functionality is disabled in the rom.
BTW, the 8 Pro SIM tray doesn't quite go in all the way, it has a thicker red gasket for sealing than the 9 Pro does. It still works, just not flush with the body of the phone.
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I tried this as well, same result. It is hard to remove the 8 Pro SIM tray from the 9 Pro if you push it in.
Is the international ROM available to flash? I want to see if flashing that will make it recognize the second SIM with the 8 Pro's SIM tray.
I am very interested in this as well. I pre-ordered this phone because it said it was Dual-SIM for the USA. The following day, they edited it back to single-SIM.
If this can be worked around via getting a dual-SIM tray and flashing the global ROM, maybe I won't have to return it after all.
I can't believe we even have to have this discussion with a $1000 phone from a brand that has always had dual sim functionality. Argggggg...... It's going to make my head explode!
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I can't believe we even have to have this discussion with a $1000 phone from a brand that has always had dual sim functionality. Argggggg...... It's going to make my head explode!
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Right? The whole reason I splashed out for a carrier-free "premium" phone was to not be held down by any idiotic restrictions- but lo and behold OnePlus bent over backwards for T-Mobile. The worst part is that it's literally the same hardware, we just got a single-slot SIM tray and software to lock us out of the second slot.
It boils my blood that you can see the second set of SIM contacts in there and can't use them without jumping through hoops.
Mine's sitting in the damn box still, because I'm not using it until I know I can utilize both SIMs I have on it.
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Right? The whole reason I splashed out for a carrier-free "premium" phone was to not be held down by any idiotic restrictions- but lo and behold OnePlus bent over backwards for T-Mobile Verizon. The worst part is that it's literally the same hardware, we just got a single-slot SIM tray and software to lock us out of the second slot.
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I suspect it's Verizon's fault to forcing it as Single SIM on the software side. Verizon gimped previous Android models in a similar way previously. Pixel 3 eSIM was disabled on Verizon-sold models, and they forced OnePlus to make separate variants of the OnePlus 8 for both Verizon and Visible.
They knew OnePlus would want it certified for 5G mmWave, and that was probably Verizon's 'terms' for getting it cleared.
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I suspect it's Verizon's fault to forcing it as Single SIM on the software side. Verizon gimped previous Android models in a similar way previously. Pixel 3 eSIM was disabled on Verizon-sold models, and they forced OnePlus to make separate variants of the OnePlus 8 for both Verizon and Visible.
They knew OnePlus would want it certified for 5G mmWave, and that was probably Verizon's 'terms' for getting it cleared.
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This is actually a very good point that I hadn't considered. I hate how anti-choice the US wireless market is.
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I am very interested in this as well. I pre-ordered this phone because it said it was Dual-SIM for the USA. The following day, they edited it back to single-SIM.
If this can be worked around via getting a dual-SIM tray and flashing the global ROM, maybe I won't have to return it after all.
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the second sim does not even fit in the the sim slot, it kinda looks like a microSD can but I don't have one to try.
Yeah I was kinda upset about this too, b/c I used my OP7Pro for personal and work phone with 2 sims.
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the second sim does not even fit in the the sim slot, it kinda looks like a microSD can but I don't have one to try.
Yeah I was kinda upset about this too, b/c I used my OP7Pro for personal and work phone with 2 sims.
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The tray has been deliberately rendered useless on the second side. I tried it with the tray from the 8 Pro which fits two SIMs properly, but the software won't recognize the second SIM.
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Right? The whole reason I splashed out for a carrier-free "premium" phone was to not be held down by any idiotic restrictions- but lo and behold OnePlus bent over backwards for T-Mobile. The worst part is that it's literally the same hardware, we just got a single-slot SIM tray and software to lock us out of the second slot.
It boils my blood that you can see the second set of SIM contacts in there and can't use them without jumping through hoops.
Mine's sitting in the damn box still, because I'm not using it until I know I can utilize both SIMs I have on it.
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So frustrating. US telcos need more consumer-friendly regulation so they can't engage in anti-competitive behavior like this.
I put mine back in the box. Offering it to my wife to use, and if she doesn't, this is going back for a refund. Ordered the exact same phone from Amazon Italy, that should have dual SIM. ETA Apr 1-2.
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So frustrating. US telcos need more consumer-friendly regulation so they can't engage in anti-competitive behavior like this.
I put mine back in the box. Offering it to my wife to use, and if she doesn't, this is going back for a refund. Ordered the exact same phone from Amazon Italy, that should have dual SIM. ETA Apr 1-2.
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That's not a bad idea, I think I'll do the same since I know my wife doesn't need dual-SIM. She probably won't want it though, haha. Let us know how that works out, if it's smooth sailing then I might just do that as well. I wish I knew this before ordering from OP directly, I'd have just gone to Amazon first.
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That's not a bad idea, I think I'll do the same since I know my wife doesn't need dual-SIM. She probably won't want it though, haha. Let us know how that works out, if it's smooth sailing then I might just do that as well. I wish I knew this before ordering from OP directly, I'd have just gone to Amazon first.
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Just a heads up bro.
If you live in North America like me ordering the OnePlus 9 series from Amazon Italy makes no sense as their variant is UK version which misses many LTE & 5G bands that we need in USA & Canada! I almost put the order through before noticed that is a UK variant.
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Just a heads up bro.
If you live in North America like me ordering the OnePlus 9 series from Amazon Italy makes no sense as their variant is UK version which misses many LTE & 5G bands that we need in USA & Canada! I almost put the order through before noticed that is a UK variant.
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The bands are almost always different. I think they do it on purpose so people in North America are stunted if they do a gray market purchase.
Why does the North American models have 5G band 78 for the EU but they don't have 71 or n260, etc.. They do it on purpose to screw us over.
samteeee said:
Just a heads up bro.
If you live in North America like me ordering the OnePlus 9 series from Amazon Italy makes no sense as their variant is UK version which misses many LTE & 5G bands that we need in USA & Canada! I almost put the order through before noticed that is a UK variant.
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Damn, man- this got me thinking, so I threw together a quick comparison graphic of the bands, which are missing in their respective models. Top is from the US OP page, bottom is from Spain's.
I was planning on using mine with Verizon, looks like that might not be a good idea.
Looks like the NA version should work in EU with minimal problem, but the EU version is missing many NA bands. 100% due to carrier pressure, disgusting.
If anyone can manage to successfully enable the second SIM slot of a NA variant, that looks like the way to go.
I search around and found that iphone US version are also single sim and they are able to make it to dual sim only if they open the phone and replace the actualy sim inserted piece on the motherboard. I watched the tear apart video of oneplus 9 pro which the sim card piece on the motherboard is also detachable without remove the whole motherboard. I think the would work. Simply use a dual sim tray would not work.
We can finally order dual-SIM trays via eBay as of today. What are the odds of being able to enable that second slot?
It might need some time. I read from other post that oneplus 8 pro took a year before a low that feature. now oneplus 9 pro only have one sim tray so it might talk even a longer time for them to release that feature. I am more depending on the people who know how to customize the rom and add feature . So just stay tune at different forums.
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
carbondog said:
We can finally order dual-SIM trays via eBay as of today. What are the odds of being able to enable that second slot?
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That's great news. I returned by OP9P NA variant, but don't have a global variant yet. Shouldn't it just work with the NA variant if we flash a global ROM on the same device? It looks like it has pins on both sides.
pavankp said:
That's great news. I returned by OP9P NA variant, but don't have a global variant yet. Shouldn't it just work with the NA variant if we flash a global ROM on the same device? It looks like it has pins on both sides.
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Not that simple I think. I already flash to EU tom but it does not second sim in the settings. I think it might need wire flash of all components including baseband
amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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it doesn't for USA model.
fifasax said:
Not that simple I think. I already flash to EU tom but it does not second sim in the settings. I think it might need wire flash of all components including baseband
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Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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I saw one guy on Reddit complaining of the same situation we're in- ordered the phone when it said dual-SIM and trying to return it afterward.
He claims OP customer service said dual-SIM would be enabled via update in the future. While I hope that's true, it's the first and only time I saw that said anywhere. Could've just been said to try and avoid return. Even if it does happen, it'd probably be a ways off.
carbondog said:
I saw one guy on Reddit complaining of the same situation we're in- ordered the phone when it said dual-SIM and trying to return it afterward.
He claims OP customer service said dual-SIM would be enabled via update in the future. While I hope that's true, it's the first and only time I saw that said anywhere. Could've just been said to try and avoid return. Even if it does happen, it'd probably be a ways off.
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I chatted with OnePlus customer service two different times. Both agents tried to talk me out of wanting Dual SIM, but were very clear that it is single slot only for the US. One even cited spouted some bull**** about doing that to optimize 5G performance on US networks.
pavankp said:
Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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I guess we have to wait to see if anyone can figure out how. At least, just upgrade to a newer version of EU tom does not work. Not sure if you for flash everything and reset from adb is the same
i have a bnib stellar black chinese version dual sim 8/256 oneplus 9 pro for sale. I am in SF bay area.
Will it work if i have a Dual Sim Oneplus 9 from Malaysia, install NA rom to open more BANDS ? The malaysia OnePlus 9 has the same 5G bands as in UK, but lack of some US 5G bands like n71. All CN variant do not have B13 band, therefore, not supporting Verizon LTE nicely. All ebay sellers who claimed dual sim with 12GB RAM and 256GB storage are mostly CN variant. I'm better off with EU/UK or MY. Hong Kong spec is the same as USA with dual sim. If anyone wants a dual sim and want mostly all US bands supported, Hong Kong Oneplus seems to be the right fit. Only if we can get it from HK
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amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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Funny, I don't have the option.
amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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wait what?! both SIM fits in the same compartment ?
wouldn't that be too tight?
mine only has a slot for 1 SIM
The dual sim versions have 1 sim on each side of the tray.
Mine came with dual sim out of the box and is working perfectly.
I really like how I don't have carry around 2 phones anymore.
flaxjef said:
Mine came with dual sim out of the box and is working perfectly.
I really like how I don't have carry around 2 phones anymore.
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Do you have the US version?
I was very disappointed that the US version didn't come with a dual sim. I ordered mine at launch, when their website said that it had it.. Anyway, I finally figured out an acceptable replacement option for mine. I did have 1 sim for my personal number and a second sim for my work number (worked great on my OP 6T for a couple of years now). After playing around with things, I finally ended up porting my work number over to Google Voice (1 x $20 fee) and installed the Google Voice app on my phone. Now I essentially have 2 #'s on one phone, just like having a second SIM, but no cost to my carrier. I can receive calls and txt's for the # I ported to GV. Wasn't quite the solution I was hoping for, but now I no longer pay for that line.
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Do you have the US version?
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I don't think is a US variant. As far as US Variant is concern, is single SIM. Anyone that is using Dual sim could be CN or EU/UK Variant. If it is indeed a US variant, then I'm interested to know where the source to get it then . Those variants have fewer 5G sub-bands compared to the US except HK. I just hope that Oneplus has the hardware embedded and is just a matter of software activation. Samsung Note20 new firmware patch also opens up their eSIM support.
Ops400 said:
I was very disappointed that the US version didn't come with a dual sim. I ordered mine at launch, when their website said that it had it.. Anyway, I finally figured out an acceptable replacement option for mine. I did have 1 sim for my personal number and a second sim for my work number (worked great on my OP 6T for a couple of years now). After playing around with things, I finally ended up porting my work number over to Google Voice (1 x $20 fee) and installed the Google Voice app on my phone. Now I essentially have 2 #'s on one phone, just like having a second SIM, but no cost to my carrier. I can receive calls and txt's for the # I ported to GV. Wasn't quite the solution I was hoping for, but now I no longer pay for that line.
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You do know they make an app called second line right? So you don't need to pay for 2 plans