New phones shipping folded or unfolded? - Motorola Razr 5G Questions & Answers

Been eyeing the phone for a bit, looking at places to order and the amazon listing says it'll be folded with fingerprints but still new. The reviews aren't too comforting claiming the outer screen plastic was reattached or missing. If I'm throwing away $1200 on a phone you bet i want to be the one to peel off the plastics and not get a display unit.
Those who ordered recently from moto/bh/any other place any confirmation that moto changed to folding the phone or amazon is shipping used/display units under the guise of brand new?

I bought from Amazon on launch day. The phone was folded and was sealed in the official case.

I ordered mine from Motorola directly, it came folded, no fingerprints I saw, with outside screen plastic + inside screen plastics in the normal way.

Ordered mine through att and phone was folded with no plastic cover on the screen but the seal was left untouched on the box. Didn't see any fingerprints on the screen but it could also have been att adding their own apps and sim lock before sending to me. Their was a att sim card inserted so I think they have a way to reseal box to make consumer feel like it is brand new

Received my Razr 5g today
I got my Motorola Razr 5G today.
It arrived in a sealed back to protect the box that the phone is shipped in.
I noticed right away that the two Motorola seals on the bottom of the phone were not cut, nor had any "dog ears" to them (like if someone before tried to unstick the stickers to put them back on).
After peeling away the two "security" stickers and opening the box, I noticed the Razr was shipped folded.
But to my dismay, it was also shipped without any protective "Black Motorola Screen Protector" like I have seen on several Motorola Razr 5G box openings. Not that I noticed any scratches, nor figure prints on the screen (which there were none).
I guess the best part (20 minutes into loading my account on this phone) it is super smooth in the manner in which the screen opens and closes (my biggest worry).
Cheers,

Well I can update with my own experience, bought at Best Buy 4 days ago phone was folded with a chunk of foam in the top part of the box that looked like someone with a razor cut a chunk off for the phone to fit. Also the Moto tape holding box together wasn't tampered but looks like it was on top of other Moto tape. I'm guessing Motorola themselves pulled the phones and folded them prior to shipment.
It doesn't matter too much but dropping over $1k on a phone it'd be nice to have a heads up from Moto instead of the amazon listing.

I think it's folded now.

Came folded from Vodafone UK

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UK Folio Case

I've got the official Moto folio for mine at the mo, and its not a bad bit of kit however, it has 2 annoying "features".
When you pop the bottom of the case off to stand the device up, the device "slips" inside the case and the plastic clip bits push the volume rocker.
I dont have a screen protector on mine and the protective ridges leave bars across the screen..
Anyone in the UK tried another case, or someone in the US perhaps with a case that I can get here in the UK?
glad it's not just me then! I'd assumed I'd just gotten a slight "dud" one when I found my Xoom slipping out slightly.
I also find that the bottom corners don't both fully clip over the tablet...I had assumed it was just because it was new (got it last week) and needed to bed in a little, but that may not be the case then.
The bars you mention annoyed me at first, but they wipe off so I'm not too fussed. Would be interested to hear views on other cases as well though
I've had no issues with my uk folio case, apart from the price I paid for it last year. It sits very firmly in the case and clips over fine, however I do have to apply pressure to get it to clip over properly whenever I am putting the case back on.
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I've had no issues with my uk folio case, apart from the price I paid for it last year. It sits very firmly in the case and clips over fine, however I do have to apply pressure to get it to clip over properly whenever I am putting the case back on.
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Same here, no problem with it slipping when popping the bottom of the case of to use as a stand. Its a firm tight fit.
As for the bottom not fully clipping over the tablet. I had that problem when I got my case. I sliced the two little nibs of plastic off and although its not a 100% fit, it does sit a lot better in the bottom half.
I've gone for this one as it seems to get great reviews
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LuvTab-Moto...JO9Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327331680&sr=8-1
Ordered this case today Motorola Xoom Tablet Leather Folio Case Cover White
Seems decent for the price.
Ordered the below from eBay and received quickly. Great vfm and looks great!
Case from e_cell (used them loads over the years! £8. 95
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190623986529?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Screen protector x3 £2. 59
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130631576925?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Stylus £0.99
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260868257859?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Official flip cover - $20 shipped

I purchased one of these a week ago and came in today, it's the official AT&T / LG flip cover with wireless charging and NFC.
Came in today, in a plastic bag inside a padded envelope. Works great, feels great, definitely the real thing.
Don't mean to sound like an ad, it's not my listing, but I've seen people getting replacement back covers without Wireless charging for $30+shipping, so this at $20 is a steal!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360868957051
One question, if I hold the phone or sit the phone on the table, back side down, the front flip cover part doesn't stay all the way shut. The right side is about 1/4th inch up off the screen. The auto screen on/off still works but it'd be nice if the cover stayed "tight" on the screen. Though I understand there is no magnet or anything on the far side so it may not be possible, is it... possible?
" the front flip cover part doesn't stay all the way shut. "
That's probably why it was a RETURN aka REFURBISHED and why there was only one of it. Discounted.
I just bought 2 from the same seller (extra one by accident, hope this seller a4c will let me return it for refund. He didn't even responded to any of my email telling him to just send one). I want to know what do you think of this flip case overall, since you've been using it for a while by now. Does it protect the phone from accidental drops well? I'm thinking I'll have to bind the cover with a large rubber band or something to keep it from opening up when it drops. Right now I'm using am Abecus flip case. It works okay, but holding it in my hand is kind of awkward and tiring. I'm hoping to do better with this lg flip case.
Yeah I'm also searching for a nice smart case for the G Pro and would love your feedback
I just got mine today, and I must say,I'm kind of disappointed. This flip cover case offers no real protection to the phone what so ever. The cover itself may protect the screen from scratches in the pocket or bag, but I already have a screen protector for that. It's really just a lg e980 back cover with a screen cover flap attach to it. There is no protection to the four corners of the device if the phone falls. The battery most likely to come out if the fall is a hard one. The flap itself doesn't attach to anything, there isn't a magnet or a button to keep the flap close. The overall appearance of the phone with this case, is just like the original phone with a black plastic screen cover, but it does give a smart look. Earlier the op mentioned that the cover won't stay tight. On mine it works fine, may be it's not staying tight due to that the synthetic leather needs be worn before it will fit right, but it's really not an issue. The plus side of this case is that when you close the flap, it does make the device sleeps, and open the cover wakes the device. This feature alone is worth the price of the case. Using the cover to wake and puts it to sleep beats the gestures and the button any day. I'm not sure about other features I have heard about, such as the NFC and the wireless charging because I haven't tested them. I may return this case because it doesn't protect my Phone, but my other cheap wallet case is already showing signs of wearing, and this case does look sharp. So I don't know. I may have to shop for another case soon. I will post in a few days after using this case for a while.
hawkwind212 said:
I just got mine today, and I must say,I'm kind of disappointed. This flip cover case offers no real protection to the phone what so ever. The cover itself may protect the screen from scratches in the pocket or bag, but I already have a screen protector for that. It's really just a lg e980 back cover with a screen cover flap attach to it. There is no protection to the four corners of the device if the phone falls. The battery most likely to come out if the fall is a hard one. The flap itself doesn't attach to anything, there isn't a magnet or a button to keep the flap close. The overall appearance of the phone with this case, is just like the original phone with a black plastic screen cover, but it does give a smart look. Earlier the op mentioned that the cover won't stay tight. On mine it works fine, may be it's not staying tight due to that the synthetic leather needs be worn before it will fit right, but it's really not an issue. The plus side of this case is that when you close the flap, it does make the device sleeps, and open the cover wakes the device. This feature alone is worth the price of the case. Using the cover to wake and puts it to sleep beats the gestures and the button any day. I'm not sure about other features I have heard about, such as the NFC and the wireless charging because I haven't tested them. I may return this case because it doesn't protect my Phone, but my other cheap wallet case is already showing signs of wearing, and this case does look sharp. So I don't know. I may have to shop for another case soon. I will post in a few days after using this case for a while.
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Well they just suppose look fancy but where never intended to really protect the phone.
Sent from my LG-E980 using XDA Free mobile app
What's fancy about a piece card board like screen cover attach to the back cover? I figure since they call it a case, it suppose to protect the phone. My cheap wallet case offers some protection when I drop it. They really should call it 'screen cover' because there is really not a case anywhere. But like I said, the best part of this 'case' is the screen sleep/wake function. I may grow to like this special back cover after all.
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has anyone dropped their new Note 4 yet?

in case you haven't, let me share my experience:
as with most of us, i've done my best to handle my new phone with care, especially since i was one of the many that preordered the same weekend preorders were opened up. i have had the phone since launch day, i have a variety of cases for it, but not the most optimal case of course. (i'm a woman, it's hard to find fashionable protection.) i learned early on with the Note 2 and the Note 3 that the digitizers can be broken if the phone is dropped at just the right angle, so i thankfully have everything already backed up with Verizon Cloud, (call logs) SMS Backup/Restore, (texts/MMS) Helium, (game data) and Google+ (photos-- on low resolution, storage is unlimited.) today while digging in my purse, my phone fell out from about 3 feet up. landed face down on the hard tile of the womens' restroom. didn't think anything of it, because it was such a low height, just picked my phone up, plopped it back in my purse, finished shopping. (like a woman.)
when i went to check the time, i noticed the phone didn't respond. instantly i thought, "maybe i just need to power it back on, since it fell." held the power button down, 3 seconds, 5 seconds, 8 seconds, nothing. did a battery pull, left it out for about 5 minutes, replaced. nothing.
now, had i not had everything already backed up, i might have had a minor melt down, but i still had my S5 on me (literally, it was in my purse) swapped the SIM, and then cried on the inside. i put the phone on my car charger (generic model) and there was still no response, so i thought about if i should have my computer friend fix it or if I should go ahead and try my luck with insurance, with it being less than 30 days i hoped that maybe something warranty wise would still apply.
got home, put the phone on the charger. not that it needed it, but figured, nothing else could be done. did a few things around the house, then came back about 15 minutes later and saw that the screen had lit up and the phone was charging. lo and behold, i hit the power button, and it booted back up. insert praise dance here.
maybe Samsung finally did learn their lesson with the digitizers being so easily broken in the Note series. one thing that sold me on the Note 4 was the drop tests that were performed, which gave me (some) belief that i wouldn't have to deal with this problem. (link here for the drop test: http://youtu.be/Jj3Jy5ufhaY)
but in case anyone was wondering, it looks like it will survive a drop or two. and i have since thrown my Spigen case on there cause a chick will take no further chances going forward. (should, God forbid, the worst happen, i will update this post.)
No I personally hadn't dropped my phone yet, and hopefully I never will. I generally don't use protective cases on my phones, but I think I will invest in one once I can find a good aftermarket case that is made for the Verizon variant. Definitely don't want any scratches on this beauty
yeah, i've got one small unnoticeable knick in the metal edge up by the IR blaster. the initial case i chose left the top and bottom edge of the phone exposed (easier to handle) but i've definitely learned my lesson.
I beat the hell out of my note 2 for two years without a case or screen protector. Screen has one deep scratch about half an inch long and the corner chrome plastic is kinda mangled but I never cracked or broke the screen. Running my note 4 the same way.
derrtydee said:
in case you haven't, let me share my experience:
as with most of us, i've done my best to handle my new phone with care, especially since i was one of the many that preordered the same weekend preorders were opened up. i have had the phone since launch day, i have a variety of cases for it, but not the most optimal case of course. (i'm a woman, it's hard to find fashionable protection.) i learned early on with the Note 2 and the Note 3 that the digitizers can be broken if the phone is dropped at just the right angle, so i thankfully have everything already backed up with Verizon Cloud, (call logs) SMS Backup/Restore, (texts/MMS) Helium, (game data) and Google+ (photos-- on low resolution, storage is unlimited.) today while digging in my purse, my phone fell out from about 3 feet up. landed face down on the hard tile of the womens' restroom. didn't think anything of it, because it was such a low height, just picked my phone up, plopped it back in my purse, finished shopping. (like a woman.)
when i went to check the time, i noticed the phone didn't respond. instantly i thought, "maybe i just need to power it back on, since it fell." held the power button down, 3 seconds, 5 seconds, 8 seconds, nothing. did a battery pull, left it out for about 5 minutes, replaced. nothing.
now, had i not had everything already backed up, i might have had a minor melt down, but i still had my S5 on me (literally, it was in my purse) swapped the SIM, and then cried on the inside. i put the phone on my car charger (generic model) and there was still no response, so i thought about if i should have my computer friend fix it or if I should go ahead and try my luck with insurance, with it being less than 30 days i hoped that maybe something warranty wise would still apply.
got home, put the phone on the charger. not that it needed it, but figured, nothing else could be done. did a few things around the house, then came back about 15 minutes later and saw that the screen had lit up and the phone was charging. lo and behold, i hit the power button, and it booted back up. insert praise dance here.
maybe Samsung finally did learn their lesson with the digitizers being so easily broken in the Note series. one thing that sold me on the Note 4 was the drop tests that were performed, which gave me (some) belief that i wouldn't have to deal with this problem. (link here for the drop test: http://youtu.be/Jj3Jy5ufhaY)
but in case anyone was wondering, it looks like it will survive a drop or two. and i have since thrown my Spigen case on there cause a chick will take no further chances going forward. (should, God forbid, the worst happen, i will update this post.)
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I think that it's a matter of luck when you drop a phone. I've dropped two.
First one was a Sprint Epic Touch (galaxy s2, 4.5" version), it fell out of my jacket inside pockets right onto a tile floor. It made an spectacular sound, bounced a few times, and lost a back plate and a battery. Nothing else was even remotely damaged.
The second one was me bending trying to get some air in my car's tires, and phone slipped out of my jacket pocket (again). It landed hardly on pavement, but suffered only a minor scratch on the edge.
I wasn't even worried at the time - Galaxy S3 always felt like it was built like a tank, unlike S4 which I also owned.
This new Note4 feels durable in the hand, but the sheer size of the screen screams "fragile." That's "Fra-gee-lee" for uninitiated.
Nothing yet, and I am going naked, Neo Hybrid is reasonably thin, but it feels so much better without a case.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 4 on Verizon unlimited!
I love the feel of the n4 without a case but I learned my lesson of going case less when I dropped my note 3 from a very low height and got a surface Crack that spread over the next few days. I take it out the case at night when I'm in but when I'm out this baby is covered with a screen this large it will probably shatter pretty easy. To each his own though
YES! Before the DE came out, I was stripping insulation off a 12 gauge wire........
with my White Note 4 in my shirt pocket. When the insulation suddenly gave with a snap. The Note 4 jumped up out of my shirt pocket about 5 foot high and landed on the left front bottom corner on concrete then flipped over on it's glass screen face down. I was afraid to pick it up. As far as I can tell not a scratch on the screen but the Aluminum has a dent where it meets the glass. That slight gap may have saved the screen.
I am coming from the Note 2 and I had all my work shirts modified to fit the Note 2 snug. After the accident I have added a Home made Elastic Strap on top to hold the phone in place. I have not been using any case or screen protector because they slow me down and time is money. I got to be quick on the draw.
not yet... although i had a close call in the gym today with a 100lb dumbbell... i am not sure how long this is relationship is gonna work out...
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with my White Note 4 in my shirt pocket
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As soon as I read that first sentence, I knew this story wouldn't end well
I got an Otterbox Defender case for mine, $44.99 with discount through verizon's website.. Absolutely love it, Otterbox has gotten a lot better over the years, and I've got huge gorilla hands so the extra couple mm doesn't bother me :cyclops:
BizzLeonDaCouch said:
I got an Otterbox Defender case for mine, $44.99 with discount through verizon's website.. Absolutely love it, Otterbox has gotten a lot better over the years, and I've got huge gorilla hands so the extra couple mm doesn't bother me :cyclops:
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Man I have the same case it's awesome .yea I have big hands too lol. Only thing is I ripped the built in screen protector out and replaced it with a normal stick on one. The built in one was horrible and made a loud click every time i tapped it. I have a cheap tempered glass one coming Monday hopefully it fits in the defender.
You people that go caseless are imho tempting fate and then are upset when your $800 phone shatters. I fix people's phones at cost that I know, most of which are iphones. At least those screens are fairly cheap and easy to replace. An Iphone 5S screen is $70 for oem at the local store. I asked about how many galaxy's they repair and the answer was very few. Why I asked, they don't break as easy??? No was the reply, the amoled screen is super expensive. A quick check on ebay......Minimum $170 for a Note 3 screen.
For about $20 you can get a simple thin rubber type case and tempered glass screen protector. You get both drop protection, thin profile, and screen protection. Seems like a no brainer, but if you have the money to replace such and expensive device I guess it's not an issue lol.
when i went to local verizon store to pick up my note 4, the rep who helped me dropped the phone 3 feets height to the table we were on while unboxing it!!! needless to say, i was unhappy and relieved that no dent or scratch found. that store was the only store that had white note 4 in stock and i wanted to beat the deadline to trade in my old phone for $200, so i still took it.
I droppped mine at the gas station. No damage suffered despite taking a perfect hit in the middle of the screen on the corner of a curb. I had a spigen tough armor case on it to lessen the blow to the edges of the phone once it bounced around on the ground and prevented any chips im sure, but the screen held up great and didn't receive the slightest bit of damage.
edit: this is the case i have. perfect amount of protection for me (SGP11139)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAWQU14/
I got mine the Thursday they were released. I was using the Spigen Tough Armor case and had the phone in the pocket of my sweatshirt. I squatted down to look in a delivery box and the phone fell out from maybe a foot high - but it landed exactly face down. The s-pen still worked, but it would not respond to my fingers at all.
Fortunately I was able to take it back to Best Buy and they just swapped it for a new replacement. I'm using an Otterbox Defender now until Seidio makes an Active or Dilex case since the Defender adds a good 1/2" or more to the width of the device and has no kickstand despite costing $70 bucks.
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I got mine the Thursday they were released. I was using the Spigen Tough Armor case and had the phone in the pocket of my sweatshirt. I squatted down to look in a delivery box and the phone fell out from maybe a foot high - but it landed exactly face down. The s-pen still worked, but it would not respond to my fingers at all.
Fortunately I was able to take it back to Best Buy and they just swapped it for a new replacement. I'm using an Otterbox Defender now until Seidio makes an Active or Dilex case since the Defender adds a good 1/2" or more to the width of the device and has no kickstand despite costing $70 bucks.
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The convert Is in development was my favorite note 2 case they never made it for the n3 though. I have a tough armor it's going back the kickstand is a joke, worst I have used on a supposedly high quality case. FYI I have the defender you know the holster can be locked and used as a stand right? ..
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The convert Is in development was my favorite note 2 case they never made it for the n3 though. I have a tough armor it's going back the kickstand is a joke, worst I have used on a supposedly high quality case. FYI I have the defender you know the holster can be locked and used as a stand right? ..
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Thanks but I stopped carrying my phones on my belt a few years ago so the belt clip just sits in a drawer. I had Otterboxes and others and kept knocking them off my belt and causing them to fall. The final straw was when one fell in a gravel parking lot the same day I bought it and it chipped the screen through the protector. You'd think though for $70 that they'd include a nice metal kickstand on the actual case like Seidio does.
Yeah, I agree that kickstand was a complete joke. Everything else on that Spigen case felt inferior to any other case I've ever used too, but that kickstand was some awfully weak sauce.
Aw that sucks about the belt clip thing you got me worried I mainly use mine at the gym when I don't want the phone annoyingly bouncing in my pocket. I just can't believe spigen would release something so flimsy and half assed. I caught it on sale for 11 bucks and I still felt let down lol. Honestly the Verizon shell holster combo has the best kickstand in my opinion. Just wished it covered the top and bottom of the phone.
nabbed said:
This new Note4 feels durable in the hand, but the sheer size of the screen screams "fragile." That's "Fra-gee-lee" for uninitiated.
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Must be Italian!

Metal band cracked

Hi all
Bought the metal version of the sw3 in may last year
Was perfect for me as I needed a watch that looked ok with a suit but would track my runs
All was fine until November when I noticed fine cracks in the plastic part surrounding the watch face
These cracks worsened over the following few weeks until the watch was unwearable
No problem I thought, I'll return it under warranty,which I did
Just received the watch back with a note saying not covered under warranty!
How can sony sell this as a premium product and then not support it
Has anyone else had a similar problem
mine cracked from the junction of the metal and the plastic had to use this to glue
http://www.resistol.com.mx/es/productos/pegamentos-de-montaje/resistol-no-mas-clavos-multiusos.html
it looks a bit bad but still usable
How old was the watch when it cracked?
an alternative
I have a silicone one but I now use a metal strap by using an adapter. I bought an adapter through this site: https://www.shapeways.com/product/T9NVRLAJV/sony-smartwatch-3-adapter-22mm?optionId=58575196
This adapter is not the best but I find it usable and far more cheaper than an official one. I have used it 24/7 for a month now. No problem so far.
There are adapters for other strap size (20 mm, 24 mm, ...). You can also order them in different colours. This site offers discount or free shipping sometimes.
Hope this helps
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mine cracked from the junction of the metal and the plastic had to use this to glue
http://www.resistol.com.mx/es/productos/pegamentos-de-montaje/resistol-no-mas-clavos-multiusos.html
it looks a bit bad but still usable
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Whoa - that definitely looks rough. I had both sides of my band break at the metal/plastic interface, but was able to repair with superglue - looks pretty much as good as new and solid after a month.
Also bought the shapeways adapter and a silicon band for sports/exercise. It looks fantastic.
Same here
Metal version purchased 1 year ago, still under warranty, USB protector below the watch is broken and the support for wrist strap too, and it is not covered by Sony.
150€ repair they claim. Simply wore every day since I bought it. Not abused. Programmed obsolescence. Very disappointed of Sony.

anyone yet found a ZERO-magnet folio-style case?

I've spent hours looking at threads and product pages, and only found one goofy-looking thing shipping from China -- and even that one doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", but at least doesn't mention magnets or auto-wake/sleep. Minimum requirements:
-- non-magnetic secure closure / clasp (for example. button-snap, or velcro, or the kind of self-locking metal closure used on attache- or brief-cases -- or even a zipper)
-- bumper-style surround (vs. corner straps -- looking for secure attachment *and* shock protection)
-- sufficient excess border material to protect corners and edges
-- able to fold the front cover all the way back (even though that blocks the camera), so that the whole thing can be held in a grippy stand / holder, without the front cover flapping around (BTW, this guy does a fantastic job of making stands / mounts to *custom* requirements, *inexpensively* -- he's already made two for my S8+ in Spigen Wallet case, and is about to make another to hold the same + wireless charger: SlipGripCarMounts.com)
Nice to have but not essential (could mod these features myself):
-- pen holder
-- elastic strap inside the front cover, to slip your hand through when cover is folded back
-- a carrying handle on the spine, as on artists' portfolio cases
-- able to fold back the closure so that it also holds in place the folded-back front cover
My dad is actually making me a leather folio case, I'll post photos when hes finished.
I have found this case and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forefront-Cases-Rotating-Smart-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S3-9-7-SM-T820/332224684565?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Dd914a29d045545bfb27f87a1b1b52fc7%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D332224684565&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a9d0226-7861-11e8-8690-74dbd180fbe2%7Cparentrq%3A367553b51640ac3d2c0efbd6fffa85f3%7Ciid%3A1
eBay item number:332224684565
The seller confirmed that there is no magnets and it uses the strap to keep it shut
double check about the magnet
if its this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWtSCBsBjE
and on the offical site it looks like it has sleep wake feature if you look thru pictures.
https://forefrontcases.co.uk/produc...t820-leather-rotating-smart-case-cover-stand/
let us know either way mate .
I need a case
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I have found this case and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forefront-Cases-Rotating-Smart-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S3-9-7-SM-T820/332224684565?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Dd914a29d045545bfb27f87a1b1b52fc7%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D332224684565&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a9d0226-7861-11e8-8690-74dbd180fbe2%7Cparentrq%3A367553b51640ac3d2c0efbd6fffa85f3%7Ciid%3A1
eBay item number:332224684565
The seller confirmed that there is no magnets and it uses the strap to keep it shut
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Ronin475 said:
double check about the magnet
if its this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWtSCBsBjE
and on the offical site it looks like it has sleep wake feature if you look thru pictures.
https://forefrontcases.co.uk/produc...t820-leather-rotating-smart-case-cover-stand/
let us know either way mate .
I need a case
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This is what he said to me before
I can confirm this item does not have a magnetic closure and is kept shut using the strap.
I have sent him a message again quoting the website , but the vide you sent was of s2. Not sure if they have changed it on S3.
bad news and good news
The bad news...
Examining the evidence offered by @Ronin475, I think it's probably true.
The good news...
I FOUND THE CASE. Before I started this thread, I had actually already ordered a case on Amazon, purely on the basis that:
(a) although the Amazon page doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", it does't mention magnets or sleep / wake;
(b) it was going to take 3+ weeks to deliver (from China), and I had no idea how much longer I might be searching; and,
(c) it's cheap ($14 US including shipping) and therefore low-risk.
Well, it arrived today, much sooner (11 days) than expected. I had been expecting to be disappointed in one or more
respects, considering the low price and the shipping location -- not because it's *made* in China, but because no one
thought it worth *warehousing* in a major market like the U.S.
I've been pleasantly surprised.
(a) I confirmed there are no magnets. I ran a small "horse-shoe" magnet all over the case, and detected no metal.
Then I passed all parts of the front cover over the right side of the powered-on S3, and it had no effect.
(b) Given the price, it seems to be better build-quality than I expected. And it "ticks" the essential boxes...
(c) It has rubber bumpers all around, with properly located openings for everything, except that there's no opening for the
microSD card tray. (Oddly, though, it appears to have an opening for the ejection pin.). I guess it's not unreasonable to think
that users wouldn't be opening the tray very often; and having to remove this case to access the tray isn't difficult. And the
Spigen Wallet folio case on my S8+ also blocks the combination SD / SIM tray.
(c) I'd prefer to have the surround be a *tiny* bit thicker and project a couple of mm higher above the screen than it does,
but I'd say it's roughly proportional to what the Spigen does.
(d) The edges of the case do extend visibly beyond the bumper, providing side and corner protection.
(e) The front cover does fold all the way back, lying completely flat against the back.
(f) This wasn't part of the "essentials" in my OP, but the outer surfaces are moderately textured, making it less likely to
slip out of your hand.
(g) Likewise not originally listed as essential, it has a slight detent / kickstand inside the front cover, which holds the screen
at approximately 60 degrees in landscape-mode.
My only reservation about the construction is that I haven't yet installed the Spigen tempered-glass screen protector
which I already purchased for the tablet, so I can't yet confirm that the surround will still properly fit after I do that.
It doesn't have any kind of closure, but I can fix that easily and cheaply with some stick-on pieces of "hook-and-loop"
material (AKA velcro) which are sold on Amazon and in any office-supplies store.
It doesn't have any of the attributes I listed as "Nice to have but not essential", but as I said, I could mod those features myself.
And one more thing...
The decorative image is garish -- no plain patterns or solid colors or other "quiet"-looking options are offered.
But you have a choice of fifteen different garish and / or juvenile-looking patterns from which to choose.
Now that I'm looking at the Amazon page again, the least silly-looking one is probably the "Plum Blossom" pattern --
if you don't mind seeing a flash of Shocking Pink whenever you open the case.
If you're the "handy" type, you could probably find something at a crafts-supply store which you could trim to fit
and then glue over the outside.
The forum isn't letting me post the complete URL, but you can simply go to Amazon, and copy and paste
the following product-ID into the search field: B074H1H9XS
The Forefront case mentioned by @swagatsourav certainly looks nicer, and I like the swivel and the multi-position
kickstand. But 20+ British pounds (with shipping) is about $27US. I would have been willing to spend that much,
if I'd been aware of that case, and if I could have been *certain* about the magnet.
excellent review mate, my finte case arrived (the reviews said no probs with magnets, i contacted finite they said they were unaware of any problems )
but unfortunatly it does affect the pen once you know what to look for sadly.
It was less than £10 ,so i took a scalpel to it and removed the magnetic strips without any major damage. (this version has the pen holder BTW)
It still acts as a stand but not as secure as with magnetic strips and doesnt clip closed , but until i can get a better version this may do
link below for refrence
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072N4YGVG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
nusratt said:
The bad news...
Examining the evidence offered by @Ronin475, I think it's probably true.
The good news...
I FOUND THE CASE. Before I started this thread, I had actually already ordered a case on Amazon, purely on the basis that:
(a) although the Amazon page doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", it does't mention magnets or sleep / wake;
(b) it was going to take 3+ weeks to deliver (from China), and I had no idea how much longer I might be searching; and,
(c) it's cheap ($14 US including shipping) and therefore low-risk.
Well, it arrived today, much sooner (11 days) than expected. I had been expecting to be disappointed in one or more
respects, considering the low price and the shipping location -- not because it's *made* in China, but because no one
thought it worth *warehousing* in a major market like the U.S.
I've been pleasantly surprised.
(a) I confirmed there are no magnets. I ran a small "horse-shoe" magnet all over the case, and detected no metal.
Then I passed all parts of the front cover over the right side of the powered-on S3, and it had no effect.
(b) Given the price, it seems to be better build-quality than I expected. And it "ticks" the essential boxes...
(c) It has rubber bumpers all around, with properly located openings for everything, except that there's no opening for the
microSD card tray. (Oddly, though, it appears to have an opening for the ejection pin.). I guess it's not unreasonable to think
that users wouldn't be opening the tray very often; and having to remove this case to access the tray isn't difficult. And the
Spigen Wallet folio case on my S8+ also blocks the combination SD / SIM tray.
(c) I'd prefer to have the surround be a *tiny* bit thicker and project a couple of mm higher above the screen than it does,
but I'd say it's roughly proportional to what the Spigen does.
(d) The edges of the case do extend visibly beyond the bumper, providing side and corner protection.
(e) The front cover does fold all the way back, lying completely flat against the back.
(f) This wasn't part of the "essentials" in my OP, but the outer surfaces are moderately textured, making it less likely to
slip out of your hand.
(g) Likewise not originally listed as essential, it has a slight detent / kickstand inside the front cover, which holds the screen
at approximately 60 degrees in landscape-mode.
My only reservation about the construction is that I haven't yet installed the Spigen tempered-glass screen protector
which I already purchased for the tablet, so I can't yet confirm that the surround will still properly fit after I do that.
It doesn't have any kind of closure, but I can fix that easily and cheaply with some stick-on pieces of "hook-and-loop"
material (AKA velcro) which are sold on Amazon and in any office-supplies store.
It doesn't have any of the attributes I listed as "Nice to have but not essential", but as I said, I could mod those features myself.
And one more thing...
The decorative image is garish -- no plain patterns or solid colors or other "quiet"-looking options are offered.
But you have a choice of fifteen different garish and / or juvenile-looking patterns from which to choose.
Now that I'm looking at the Amazon page again, the least silly-looking one is probably the "Plum Blossom" pattern --
if you don't mind seeing a flash of Shocking Pink whenever you open the case.
If you're the "handy" type, you could probably find something at a crafts-supply store which you could trim to fit
and then glue over the outside.
The forum isn't letting me post the complete URL, but you can simply go to Amazon, and copy and paste
the following product-ID into the search field: B074H1H9XS
The Forefront case mentioned by @swagatsourav certainly looks nicer, and I like the swivel and the multi-position
kickstand. But 20+ British pounds (with shipping) is about $27US. I would have been willing to spend that much,
if I'd been aware of that case, and if I could have been *certain* about the magnet.
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Ronin475 said:
i took a scalpel to it and removed the magnetic strips without any major damage.
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I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
will grab some pics when i get home tomorrow mate
the case was simple black which is all i wanted no frill's no spills.
Doesnt every one have a scapel laying around just in case? lol
A friend of my is a Doctor so she knows i like gadgets etc so gave me the small light pen scapel etc , they have come in handy on occasion
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I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
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swagatsourav said:
This is what he said to me before
I can confirm this item does not have a magnetic closure and is kept shut using the strap.
I have sent him a message again quoting the website , but the vide you sent was of s2. Not sure if they have changed it on S3.
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So finally he did confirm it does HAVE magnets when i asked specifically about sleep wake.
Unfortunately the case mentioned by @nusratt is no longer available on amazon UK and neither does the seller on amazon USA ships it to UK.
I am still contemplating about going for
MoKo Galaxy Tab S3 9.7 Slim-Fit Multi-angle Folio Cover Case but need confirmation from any members that it would not affect the spen use. 
 @leojab mentioned in https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/accessories/zero-magnet-folio-style-case-t3807323 thread that it works perfectly fine.
swagatsourav said:
Unfortunately the case mentioned by @nusratt is no longer available on amazon UK and neither does the seller on amazon USA ships it to UK.
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I'm surprised that they won't ship to UK, since they're shipping from China. Have you tried contacting the seller directly, through their Amazon page?
how about this one?
swagatsourav said:
I am still contemplating about going for MoKo Galaxy Tab S3 9.7 Slim-Fit Multi-angle Folio Cover Case but need confirmation from any members that it would not affect the spen use.
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On xda and elsewhere, I've read several posts saying about various cases, "I didn't see the problem until I had been using the case for a while." That's why I decided not to pursue any case which mentioned having *either* a magnet *or* a sleep / wake function.
Somewhere recently, maybe on xda or even in this very thread, I saw this one ("kwmobile Elegant") on Amazon: B07233PKL8
Maybe you could ask that one's seller about magnets, sleep, and shipping.
I've been using a magnet case on my Tab S3 since August of last year with zero issues. It is on every day 24/7. I only take about 2 hours of notes a day on average Monday-Friday and the rest of the time is spent with magnets engaged and case cover closed. No issues.
I used a bit of glue under the flaps of the case i have cut open the sealed them down.
I then added some electrician's tape just to cover it ( the tape makes it look a bit rougher than the cuts )
I have marked where the magnetic strips were removed in yellow.
It does fold into the stand option but isnt as secure as i would like it as magentics dont hold it in place.
I may use something to sort that out later
Pic's
https://imgur.com/a/Y3SltoB
nusratt said:
I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
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Ronin475 said:
I then added some electrician's tape just to cover it ( the tape makes it look a bit rougher than the cuts )
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1. Looking at the pic, I wondered, did you use the electrician's tape to smooth over the rough feel of the cut edges on the hand? And / or because the opposite sides of the cut couldn't be brought back together in a gap-less seam?
2. Also, from which side did you initiate the cutting? Superficially it looks like the inner and outer covers are two separate pieces of different materials, the inside matte and fabric-like, and the outside shiny plastic / TPU; but maybe the inner matte surface is merely a coating. Was there an inner core between them, maybe cardboard? I'm asking because I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove the magnets by cutting only from the inside, so that the outside never shows any sign of the alteration. I imagine that the magnets were held in place by some kind of adhesive.
3. Looking at the pic again, it occurs to me to ask: do the rubber bumpers on that case completely surround the tablet, or are they only on the corners? The pic makes it appear that either it's corners-only, or the corners project higher above the tablet edge than the bumper sides do.
aspexil said:
I've been using a magnet case on my Tab S3 since August of last year with zero issues... 2 hours of notes a day...
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I understand completely -- there are many people who report fortunate experiences like yours. It's just that there are so many who've had the opposite experience, that a lot of shoppers, in this forum and elsewhere, are bending over backwards to be "better safe than sorry".
btw, what case are you using?
To make the longest cut on the "outside" of the case i had to split it (like splitting a piece of cardbord) ,
the split is fairly easy , it gets a bit messy pulling out the magnetic strips that are glued in place so in some spots its a little rough depending how lucky you are. ( i would recomend breaking the magnetic into smaller bits as its easier to remove)
It doesnt feel rough to the touch or any thing and its mainly the central bit that was slightly rough you can see that in the pic.
For the magnetic strip closer to the screen i cut away from the smooth grey side of the case , this was slightly more tricky as i didnt want to poke thru to other side of case.
The central bit of the case is indeed carboard but as the magnets are glued in place there will be a little damage removing them.
The magnets in the plastic part of the case i used a metal spudger to pry them out
I added the tape as a layer of protection to stop any further splits etc
The bumpers are only on the edges are a hard plastic type of material.
The overall build of the case is "ok" not amazing but its a decent case for unde £10.
nusratt said:
1. Looking at the pic, I wondered, did you use the electrician's tape to smooth over the rough feel of the cut edges on the hand? And / or because the opposite sides of the cut couldn't be brought back together in a gap-less seam?
2. Also, from which side did you initiate the cutting? Superficially it looks like the inner and outer covers are two separate pieces of different materials, the inside matte and fabric-like, and the outside shiny plastic / TPU; but maybe the inner matte surface is merely a coating. Was there an inner core between them, maybe cardboard? I'm asking because I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove the magnets by cutting only from the inside, so that the outside never shows any sign of the alteration. I imagine that the magnets were held in place by some kind of adhesive.
3. Looking at the pic again, it occurs to me to ask: do the rubber bumpers on that case completely surround the tablet, or are they only on the corners? The pic makes it appear that either it's corners-only, or the corners project higher above the tablet edge than the bumper sides do.
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also forgot to mention the sleep wake function still works without the magnets in the case.
there is a stong magnet in the tablet where the spine of the case is.
So i think the small square of metal i left in the case is registered by the fluctuation in the device field and when the light sensor is covered/uncovered it sleeps/wakes.
Ronin475 said:
To make the longest cut on the "outside" of the case i had to split it (like splitting a piece of cardbord) ,
the split is fairly easy , it gets a bit messy pulling out the magnetic strips that are glued in place so in some spots its a little rough depending how lucky you are. ( i would recomend breaking the magnetic into smaller bits as its easier to remove)
It doesnt feel rough to the touch or any thing and its mainly the central bit that was slightly rough you can see that in the pic.
For the magnetic strip closer to the screen i cut away from the smooth grey side of the case , this was slightly more tricky as i didnt want to poke thru to other side of case.
The central bit of the case is indeed carboard but as the magnets are glued in place there will be a little damage removing them.
The magnets in the plastic part of the case i used a metal spudger to pry them out
I added the tape as a layer of protection to stop any further splits etc
The bumpers are only on the edges are a hard plastic type of material.
The overall build of the case is "ok" not amazing but its a decent case for unde £10.
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Ronin475 said:
also forgot to mention the sleep wake function still works without the magnets in the case.
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1. WTF?! Then what the hell is the purpose of all the other magnets you found and removed?
2. Damn. This is depressing news. I can't begin to tell you how many otherwise very desirable-seeming cases I looked at and ruled out simply on the assumption that "sleep/wake = magnet".
it appears the magnets mainly held the case closed an the other strip was used to secure the stand bit.
I double checked with a magnetic field app on my phone , not high tech but does pick up fields.
and magnets are gone and there is a small reading where that small metal or maybe chip is.
i have attached a small elastic ribbon so the stand works perfect now, may work on something for keeping the case closed .
nusratt said:
1. WTF?! Then what the hell is the purpose of all the other magnets you found and removed?
2. Damn. This is depressing news. I can't begin to tell you how many otherwise very desirable-seeming cases I looked at and ruled out simply on the assumption that "sleep/wake = magnet".
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