Question Waterresistant? - Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40

Hi,
Got my F3 almost a week ago, but comming from a Sony XZ1c I'm used to a waterresistant phone. I know this isn't in the specs, but some things just keep me wondering....
see 2m30s: Jerry takes out the simtray of the F1 and there's no rubber sealing. The F3 clearly has one:
see 0m12s or look at your own if you're as lucky as I am Also the outside of the USB port seems to have some rubber around it (see 1m16s) but I can't see the inside.
Also GSMarena was curious (https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_f3-review-2248p2.php)
"We can say two things for sure - the Poco F3 has fewer ports than the X3 Pro - hence fewer potential water entries - and it seems the F3 has similar SIM and USB port insulations as the ones on the Poco X3 Pro. Long story short - we do believe the F3 is protected against splashes, but for some reason, the maker isn't advertising it as such."
In the Poco teardown video I can't get a clear look at the speaker ports and even using a magnifier I'm unable to see if there any kind os sealing on the inner end of the holes in de phone.
What is your opinion? Who's maybe more adventurous or experienced to see if the holes have been waterproofed?
Have a great weekend!
Patric

PatricB said:
Hi,
Got my F3 almost a week ago, but comming from a Sony XZ1c I'm used to a waterresistant phone. I know this isn't in the specs, but some things just keep me wondering....
see 2m30s: Jerry takes out the simtray of the F1 and there's no rubber sealing. The F3 clearly has one:
see 0m12s or look at your own if you're as lucky as I am Also the outside of the USB port seems to have some rubber around it (see 1m16s) but I can't see the inside.
Also GSMarena was curious (https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_f3-review-2248p2.php)
"We can say two things for sure - the Poco F3 has fewer ports than the X3 Pro - hence fewer potential water entries - and it seems the F3 has similar SIM and USB port insulations as the ones on the Poco X3 Pro. Long story short - we do believe the F3 is protected against splashes, but for some reason, the maker isn't advertising it as such."
In the Poco teardown video I can't get a clear look at the speaker ports and even using a magnifier I'm unable to see if there any kind os sealing on the inner end of the holes in de phone.
What is your opinion? Who's maybe more adventurous or experienced to see if the holes have been waterproofed?
Have a great weekend!
Patric
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Personally I think it's water resistant but they've decided to not get it officially tested to lower costs so they could instead spend on an amoled and snap 870 5g. So my opinion is it is water resistant however we'll never know for sure

Robert314 said:
Personally I think it's water resistant but they've decided to not get it officially tested to lower costs so they could instead spend on an amoled and snap 870 5g. So my opinion is it is water resistant however we'll never know for sure
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I agree, I have the same feeling as well.
Looking at the rubber sealing they for sure thought about water ingress protection, but did not go for official certification to safe cost.

GeForce66 said:
I agree, I have the same feeling as well.
Looking at the rubber sealing they for sure thought about water ingress protection, but did not go for official certification to safe cost.
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Reminds me of the OnePlus One if i remember correctly they did the same.

It seems it will be like POCO F1 - unofficialy annouced to be splash resistant after some time of release. Personally I have no knowlage about it. I used poco f1 in the light rain or spilled some drops on it and I had never face an issue.

Thank you all!
I'never actually made made my old phone really wet, but knowing it can handle it gives a peace of mind
Too bad I don't know how they made the lower speaker holes....

I'd say most phones these days are splash resistant with a tempered glass screen protector and TPU case.
I bought my Mi Pad 4 in 2018 when there was little to no IP rating phones on the market and I've used it under snowy and rainy conditions during bus stops, it's still working perfectly with 94% battery charge.

osemoka said:
It seems it will be like POCO F1 - unofficialy annouced to be splash resistant after some time of release. Personally I have no knowlage about it. I used poco f1 in the light rain or spilled some drops on it and I had never face an issue.
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Funny it can handle a splash after all after Jerry finds that "they made no effort to make it water resistant at all" or something like that. And a reassuring thought also

Nemix77 said:
I'd say most phones these days are splash resistant with a tempered glass screen protector and TPU case.
I bought my Mi Pad 4 in 2018 when there was little to no IP rating phones on the market and I've used it under snowy and rainy conditions during bus stops, it's still working perfectly with 94% battery charge.
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True, chances of it ever getting wet without any case at all are very very small. Using it without a case it'll probably slip right out of my hand in a day or 2

Sorry for obsessing guys
Finally managed to make a pic of the bottom speaker holes. They're not completely open after all but there seems to be a small grid of somekind.
Seems the holes in the grid are too small for water.
Now I'll try to leave the topic alone until it actually drops in the water

Ok, probably it really is since the K40 pro has what seems to be the exact same design and is IP53. I really don't beleive that internally there's something different with the ports so guess you're right:"they saved costs for and official rating and can use it now as a ksp for the pro

Well, I can say that I've already accidentally tested this myself. The other night I accidentally knocked over half a glass of water right on top of the screen, and left it for a minute or two before I noticed. I just wiped it off and haven't had a single problem.

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Well, I can say that I've already accidentally tested this myself. The other night I accidentally knocked over half a glass of water right on top of the screen, and left it for a minute or two before I noticed. I just wiped it off and haven't had a single problem.
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ok that is good to know. So aparently the very tiny speaker grill on the top left front of the display (barely visible to the naked eye) has been protected too.
Thanks for testing

Xiaomi doesn't was to pay for certification to keep the prices low for consumers, but I'm pretty sure the phone has splash/dust proof equivalent to IP53 rating.

Someone was kind enough to try

PLZ deleted.. stupid XDA App...

All those dunk tests... don't try it.
Failure is always the last result

Thanks, i won't, unlocking a new phone is tense enough

fyi, I forgot to remove my phone from my pocket when I went in the swimming pool. For around 10min under maybe 50cm of water.
I press on/off button and worked great. But for 2min.
I made noob mistakes (trying to unlock it, pressing buttons, and blowing through holes) and after 2min, it died. Reboot and screen slowly turned off. I think the buttons are the worst part of the phone, I could literally drink the water that went into the phone from them. Crazy.
Anyway, my adventure with the F3 ends here Gonna make a last attempt in few days again (after drying it for 3 days into rice). Going back on my S10e.. which is waterproof ^^

Morak75 said:
fyi, I forgot to remove my phone from my pocket when I went in the swimming pool. For around 10min under maybe 50cm of water.
I press on/off button and worked great. But for 2min.
I made noob mistakes (trying to unlock it, pressing buttons, and blowing through holes) and after 2min, it died. Reboot and screen slowly turned off. I think the buttons are the worst part of the phone, I could literally drink the water that went into the phone from them. Crazy.
Anyway, my adventure with the F3 ends here Gonna make a last attempt in few days again (after drying it for 3 days into rice). Going back on my S10e.. which is waterproof ^^
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Rice doesn't work! NO!
Pull the rear cover and disconnect the battery asap!!!
Place in a warm dry room with a fan on it. Allow to completely dry, more is better than less. At least 2 days.
For better water removal:
If it doesn't have a LCD display, you can flush with anhydrous (96-99% only!) isopropyl alcohol to absorb the water. Be careful if it can get in between the glass and display, avoid this as it may leave a water mark. Get as much as the isopropyl off then by using centrifugal force and gravity*. Proceed to the drying procedure above.
Isopropyl is flammable so don't get stupid with it.
Never use it or any solvent around a LCD display; it will poison the display.
Use your best judgement. If you are successful the device will function normally.
If not it's likely because you delayed in removing the battery.
If it was salt water... it's already dead.
*Dry, oil free low pressure (5-15 psi) compressed air can be used to more efficiently displace/dry the isopropyl alcohol. Get under the BGA chipsets on the mobo with it. Connectors and switches. Don't go too nuts but blowout as much as possible without driving it in between the display/glass.

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[Q] Quality control problems with the frame?

Recently i received my Xperia Z1C White. After some careful checking (that happens when you are a techy) i noticed that the frame bends slightly inwards at the back side. I made a small example of what i mean on a photo. The problem is. If you can press those parts of the frame inwards, what happens with the waterproof seal between that part of the frame and the plastic bezel on top of this? Is this the case with every Xperia Z1C or is this a rare problem?
I suspect this also is the reason why you can hear a sound while pressing the screen slightly.
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Recently i received my Xperia Z1C White. After some careful checking (that happens when you are a techy) i noticed that the frame bends slightly inwards at the back side. I made a small example of what i mean on a photo. The problem is. If you can press those parts of the frame inwards, what happens with the waterproof seal between that part of the frame and the plastic bezel on top of this? Is this the case with every Xperia Z1C or is this a rare problem?
I suspect this also is the reason why you can hear a sound while pressing the screen slightly.
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Same on my phone, but only the charging port side, and my phone squeaks too.
Me too - i can also press the frame inward. Oh my god, i´m a bit confused now...lets hope everything is ok and water is no problem for that...
*EDIT* But i have to say that this also is an issue to find on my Z1 !
Had a bit of convex shape on the back, barely noticeable. Hairdryer and pressing did the trick.
And no, don't be too harsh to the phone.
Glue seems to be unequally applicated.
Made in China after all.
I don't know why, but it doesn't seems any problem with my white phone.
I wonder hwo wide spread or problematic this is. On a normal phone this wouldnt be a problem at all. But on a waterproof phone every error can be a problem.
Mine seems to have the same microscopic gap on the back around the docking port.
I dunked it in a bowl of water and let it sit for 5 minutes. Took it out, dried it off - no problems.
The back of mine flexes when pressed hard in the center, but there are no gaps at the edges (even when pressed)
Is this something they'd accept a warranty replacement for? Where do you go about requesting such?
slvrarrow said:
Is this something they'd accept a warranty replacement for? Where do you go about requesting such?
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I think no warranty on this, they will probably consider it normal.
The problem with high precision designed devices like this and iphones is, that if something is a bit off you notice it easier.
I do regret it a bit that i didnt exchange it within the 7 days that it is possible to exchange a product after buying it in holland. But if it is widespread, then the case of a phone without the flexing frame/misaligned frame would be very small.
For anyone worried about the waterproof nature of their device, the only thing I can say is - test it. If the product works as intended you're golden. If not, you're covered by warranty.
I'm avid photographer and diver and with all new waterproof equipment, the first thing I do is test their waterproofing by either dunking them in the tub or the sink full of water.
You've bought a device with a capability which you should be able to trust. No need to find out 1 year later when you drop it in the toilet that your device is faulty.
Hejnfelt said:
Mine seems to have the same microscopic gap on the back around the docking port.
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Same here, only a small gap around docking port that can be ever so slightly pressed in under higher-than-normal pressure, never noticed it in every day handling.
Mine keeps pulling hairs out of my beard!
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I believe there's a sensor-like surface when you open up one of the flaps (the micro-USB one I think). It's a small white square and it turns red when in contact with water.
This is how the service centres know that you are complying to proper usage. So do be careful not to get the internals wet
That would make sense
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I have exchanged mine, still a little flex around the charging port but the back is definitely more flush. No small gap and less cracking noise when pressing the back as well. Very content with the built quality of this phone now.

Can Le Pro 3 survive water test? =D

Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any damage to your phone by doing this demonstration.
I am half-crazy/half-scared today and thought what kind of protection does my phone have? What if it rains and I want take a picture or video of a wonderful scene or event?What if I accidentally drop my phone on a puddle or in a sink filled with water? So without further ado, please watch this very short video that demonstrates the level of protection in the Le Pro 3.
https://youtu.be/RgMyI_vmu4c
https://youtu.be/wCI5R1esqPw
IMHO, the phone may survive rainfall or quick dip in the water. The phone case may have helped as well. It feels good that our phone has this kind of protection when you need it. Again, I am not encouraging you to perform this test but just providing you some confidence that Le Pro 3 may survive accidental drop in or splash of the water.
P.S. The phone still works and I am still using it right after the test. No issue so far. =D
Joms_US said:
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any damage to your phone by doing this demonstration.
I am half-crazy/half-scared today and thought what kind of protection does my phone have? What if it rains and I want take a picture or video of a wonderful scene or event?What if I accidentally drop my phone on a puddle or in a sink filled with water? So without further ado, please watch this very short video that demonstrates the level of protection in the Le Pro 3.
https://youtu.be/RgMyI_vmu4c
IMHO, the phone may survive rainfall or quick dip in the water. The phone case may have helped as well. It feels good that our phone has this kind of protection when you need it. Again, I am not encouraging you to perform this test but just providing you some confidence that Le Pro 3 may survive accidental drop in or splash of the water.
P.S. The phone still works and I am still using it right after the test. No issue so far. =D
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damn, that's to much of a risk.
I think for a sealed phone like this the most risk is the speakers.... I hope your speakers are functioning properly. I recommend doing a rice treatment just to be safe. Even if it looks okay for now, the moisture can sip in over time.
suhridkhan said:
damn, that's to much of a risk.
I think for a sealed phone like this the most risk is the speakers.... I hope your speakers are functioning properly. I recommend doing a rice treatment just to be safe. Even if it looks okay for now, the moisture can sip in over time.
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Or do an intensive benchmark so that heat will dissipate the moisture? I might do the rice trick later when I get home.
Quick update:
Phone still works 100%, even the speaker is as loud as before. And I did not do the rice trick yet. ^_^
You are great!!
Joms_US said:
Quick update:
Phone still works 100%, even the speaker is as loud as before. And I did not do the rice trick yet. ^_^
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That's quite impressive for such a low priced phone. Just icing on the cake!
benjmiester said:
That's quite impressive for such a low priced phone. Just icing on the cake!
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I guess the Le Pro 3 has a typical IP53 certification but just not advertised.
P.S Phone still works 100%, now I am tempted to take it to the next level. =D
Joms_US said:
I guess the Le Pro 3 has a typical IP53 certification but just not advertised.
P.S Phone still works 100%, now I am tempted to take it to the next level. =D
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I would like to caution you one more time.
Most phones include a water damage sticker inside them, I think LP3 should also have one or two. Even if your phone works just fine, you might lose your warranty for future purposes, if those stickers get in touch of water.
Happy New Year!
Lets end the year with a bang!
https://youtu.be/wCI5R1esqPw
Joms_US said:
Lets end the year with a bang!
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How about testing without a case
Regardless, you are crazy, careless, or wealthy to risk this!
slgooding said:
How about testing without a case
Regardless, you are crazy, careless, or wealthy to risk this!
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Let's be realistic here, do you use your phone without a case at all? I don't, because it needs to be protected from scratches, bumps and fall (my daughter dropped it already 3.5 feet face down on cement floor).
The case was never designed to protect Le Pro 3 from water test like this but may have helped somehow because water will pass through case holes first before going into the phone itself.
I maybe crazy or careless but not wealthy LoL.
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Let's be realistic here, do you use your phone without a case at all? I don't, because it needs to be protected from scratches, bumps and fall (my daughter dropped it already 3.5 feet face down on cement floor).
The case was never designed to protect Le Pro 3 from water test like this but may have helped somehow because water will pass through case holes first before going into the phone itself.
I maybe crazy or careless but not wealthy LoL.
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This is my first most-expensive phone I have bought. (I know some of you American/European guys might be laughing at me but living in a country where an 'honors post-grad' earns average 600$/month and being married, it is hard to actually dedicate half of my monthly salary for buying a phone). I don't regret buying it but I agree with your every bit.
Thank you for testing this phone's resilience and reliability for rainy weather. Although camera isn't top notch but it will work for a carry-around instant snapshot purpose. (My G3 still beats this phone in camera quality but I care less, I don't even use camera at all )
dark_prince said:
This is my first most-expensive phone I have bought. (I know some of you American/European guys might be laughing at me but living in a country where an 'honors post-grad' earns average 600$/month and being married, it is hard to actually dedicate half of my monthly salary for buying a phone). I don't regret buying it but I agree with your every bit.
Thank you for testing this phone's resilience and reliability for rainy weather. Although camera isn't top notch but it will work for a carry-around instant snapshot purpose. (My G3 still beats this phone in camera quality but I care less, I don't even use camera at all )
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No problem, have you tried Google Camera App? It will bring the IQ to few notches up up to level of Galaxy S6 or iPhone 7. Yes iPhone 7 IQ is horrendous by comparison even with Nexus 5X.
Hey guys,
today I dropped some beer over my Le Pro 3 and I instantly cleaned it (sucked out the liquid out of the charging port and speakers etc.)
But then I got a reboot from my phone, it says I'm out of battery (it got 40% at this moment)..
After reboot, my home button doesn't work anymore, no vibration, no interaction or something else..
I tried to dry it through put it in a bag of rice, but after 3 hours it doesn't changed the situation.
I'm now very desperately about this, do you guys got any tips for me?
Or should I just send it back through my reseller to LeEco for a retail?
Thank you for reading and replying to me!
Greetz
You could try the old trick of leaving your phone in a bag of rice over night to pull out all the moisture.
You can try to clean the usb c port, patiently and with care, with something very moist that can melt the sugars and absorb/remove all the beer residues on the contacts. Then dry out the area with the help of an hairdryer and try to turn on or reset your phone from recovery, if it starts! Good luck!
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Ok guys, I just wrapped my phone in a tshirt (didn't found any rice in my home haha) and after 10 hours, my home hutton work again <3
I'm so happy rn!
Sony make.belive said:
Ok guys, I just wrapped my phone in a tshirt (didn't found any rice in my home haha) and after 10 hours, my home hutton work again <3
I'm so happy rn!
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Good for you, the rice trick and hair blower saved mine last time when it plunged into a salty pool.
Joms_US said:
Good for you, the rice trick and hair blower saved mine last time when it plunged into a salty pool.
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in what order do we need to do it? first hair blower and then rice trick?
SUMMERBREEZE said:
in what order do we need to do it? first hair blower and then rice trick?
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- Turn off the phone right away
- Wash with clean water if phone was soiled/dunked in dirty/sweet/salty water
- Shake/Suck the water out
- Hair Blower for at least 15 mins
- Rice trick overnight
Good luck!

Crease condition after months of use

Hi All,
I need some info from people who have been using the fold for quite some time now.
I just got the fold 2 and that is my first folding phone.
I got to be honest: I've been using it unfolded and I've been keeping it unfolded most of the time because im afraid that keeping it close would increase the crease.
So, you that you have used this type of folding phones for many months, could you give me some suggestions? Do you keep it unfolded when not in use/charging or you just keep it folded when not using it?
For the latter: no issues with the crease.. have you notice any increase of the crease?
Thanks
I've had the Galaxy fold for 4 months now and I do fold/unfold quite a lot every day and I can tell you that the crease has remained identical. Don't read too much into the YouTube reviewer hype, the screen is plastic and it won't crease like folded leather does with stretch mark. What I did notice tho is that you'll get lots of microscratches, but unless you're pointing your screen towards a light bulb, you can't see them as they're very superficial. That's with the first gen fold tho, so the second one might be better in that regard. And I treat the phone like a baby with utmost care.
I tend to agree with the above response. +1.
I have the og Fold now since january and sleep every night with it open. Actually, I keep it open at all times at the house and only close it when I'm "on the road." I'm sure thats overkill. No issues since day one and dont really know why I'm in that habit of keeping it open at the house. lol.
As far as the tiny scratches, thats from wiping down too hard with a dirty micro fiber. Ive seen this before on other device's screens, and in a great example, Oakley sunglasses. Those cheap a*s plastic lenses get scratched just looking thru them.
The KEY would be to only use a completely clean and dry microfiber cloth and apply literally hardly any pressure making time to constantly shake the rag and use different parts of it as you "brush" the screen. RIDICULOUS, I know, but the ONLY way to keep those tiny scratches at bay.
And hes right, They can only be noticed when the screen is OFF and at a crazy angle with reading glasses on...lol.. Really a non-issue, if you ask me.
Iv had fold first gen since 4th Feb and it still ok no scratches nothing at all
I have had the Fold for nearly a year. I keep it closed most of the time but open it several times a day, the crease is actually the same as it was on day 1 as far as I can see. Neither screen has got any blemishes/ scratches, I am generally pretty careful about it to the point that if I am working in a dirty/ dusty environment I use my Pixel instead. At all other times, I use the Fold.
Some feedback
Been using my Fold for almost 1 year (I have the 5G variant) and looks the same as first day. The hinge mechanism maybe a bit less firm than when I bought it but fully functional and very reliable. The only thing I have never manged to find is a GOOD screen protector. I always use one not to scratch the screens' delicate surface and I went through many and they all suck.. scratch easily, start peeling and distort the image and produce streaks at pixel level.. I've tried like, 10. Other than that, best phone I've ever owned and will not upgrade to the Fold 2 because its too incremental. Will wait for the Fold 3 and see if there are truly major changes, namely the device being thinner and the screen really more resistant.
Still all stock under Android 10 and want to root it but not sure whats the best way to do it or if I can even get TWRP on my model. Worrying about screwing it up, nut really would love to root it.
All in all, awesome phone!
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Some feedback
Been using my Fold for almost 1 year (I have the 5G variant) and looks the same as first day. The hinge mechanism maybe a bit less firm than when I bought it but fully functional and very reliable. The only thing I have never manged to find is a GOOD screen protector. I always use one not to scratch the screens' delicate surface and I went through many and they all suck.. scratch easily, start peeling and distort the image and produce streaks at pixel level.. I've tried like, 10. Other than that, best phone I've ever owned and will not upgrade to the Fold 2 because its too incremental. Will wait for the Fold 3 and see if there are truly major changes, namely the device being thinner and the screen really more resistant.
Still all stock under Android 10 and want to root it but not sure whats the best way to do it or if I can even get TWRP on my model. Worrying about screwing it up, nut really would love to root it.
All in all, awesome phone!
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153860911539 try thus link i bought it works good easy to peel off aswel
liggerz87 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153860911539 try thus link i bought it works good easy to peel off aswel
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Thanks a lot for the tip, I'll give it a try
I had to take it off had it for a while I suggest getting the 2 pack as was bit difficult to get on only took it off as had a black spot a smoke nearly burnt it lol screen was fine under neath
I've had the Fold since Oct 27, 2019. I constantly close and open it all day. I was also experiencing tiny scratches on the inside screen for no reason and decided to start using a screen protector for about ten months. But the crease did not increase one bit.
About two weeks ago I using dex to watch a movie one morning and the hdmi cable hit my inner screen and created dead pixels. I took it to a samsung repair center and they replaced it for free, and the hinge, along with a factor installed screen protector that wasn't originally there. It's like having a new phone! But I would definitely recommend closing it once you set the phone down.
murdok83 said:
Hi All,
I need some info from people who have been using the fold for quite some time now.
I just got the fold 2 and that is my first folding phone.
I got to be honest: I've been using it unfolded and I've been keeping it unfolded most of the time because im afraid that keeping it close would increase the crease.
So, you that you have used this type of folding phones for many months, could you give me some suggestions? Do you keep it unfolded when not in use/charging or you just keep it folded when not using it?
For the latter: no issues with the crease.. have you notice any increase of the crease?
Thanks
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Do you also put plastic covers on your couches and leave the paper floor mats when you get your car washed? Just use the damn device you paid money for.

Question Fold 3 Screen cracking

Hey,
I have been a Note fan since the very beginning and a foldable with spen support has been a device of my dreams. When the Fold 3 was released I decided to go for it and give my Note 20 Ultra a break. The fold isn't perfect especially with such a small battery but as an exynos user the battery has always been a thing to compromise in my region. But,
The reports about the screen being so fragile and getting cracked in concerning numbers have halted me from getting this expensive piece of tech. I am aware of the cracking issues with the earlier folds but the reports about this third generation looks really concerning.
Are the cases that high? or is it just the usual (defective patch) in any product?
Think of it this way, no one will post about how their screen is fine and not cracked, but people will be inclined to post when their screen is shattered and broken. If every person with a screen that wasn't cracked would post theirs, it would far surpass the cracked screen numbers. I have had mine since 22nd of October and I have not had one issue, not one cracked screen. I recommend it as it's the best phone 2021 could bring.
Had mine since the early pre-order time. No screen crack or break, but I have a Spigen hard case on it. I've dropped it a few times, but have been uber lucky it wasn't anything that cause damage. One has to look at the cause of the damage before assuming it's a defect of the product.
Not sure what reports you have read, but I've yet to see an influx of cracked screens from general everyday use. Plus, many of use early birds have coverage for damage.
No issues here.
I have to wonder though, if the phone was left in a car overnight with below zero temps and then unfolded cold. What would happen? Has anyone been brave enough to try? ;-)
I have had mine since shortly after release and I use it... and I mean USE it...
I use the outer screen for many quick things, but I spent over 75% of my time opening and using the inner screen. I have a Fold SPen and use it constantly and I am STILL on the original factory inner screen protector and have ZERO issues with any bubbling, cracking or anything else on the device screen or the protector.
Just take some care of your device and it will take care of you.
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
ghassan haddad said:
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
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My case has a hinge cover, but many have issue with the phone not lying flat.
ghassan haddad said:
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
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There are some cars that specifically cover the hinge I believe. I think Samsung even has their own. But they seem so bulky and awkward.
NONE of the cases that I have seen or used or played with have a Hinge Cover that will protect from Dust/Water intrusion. Just not going to happen. Sorry mate.
I've had my Fold 3 since a couple of days before release day and use the inner screen 99.99% of the time, all day long. No issues here. I clean the dust and fingerprints (which you can barely see and don't cause the rainbow effect) with a reusable screen cloth from Amazon with a koala on it - bought it for my car stereo screen, but there are a ton in the pack, so I use them for different things.
Not only the operation of the phone in cold weather exasperating this issue but maybe also a combination of pressing on the screen with a finger to close the phone..
Plasticisers are a limited lifespan. They are what makes plastics flexible. As they fail, cracking is the result. With a close to a near 180° the engineering is less than brilliant. Made with a very finite lifespan in mind.
The Fold series is an even more niche market than the Notes. Like an inept gambler Samsung don't know when to run away. By shoving the prototype Fold down the throats of its loyal Note customer base Samsung deserves what they get... idiots.
sorry, blackhawk.. do you have one of these?? best phone ever lol.
if the stock protector fail, replacements are easy
Ya been a Note User since the first one .. after going Fold 3 I can never go back... love the screen .. really better battery, cameras, I'd like a micro SD slot again and for thr s pen to go into the phone and it would be perfect...
As for the screen cracking mine has not but the built in screen protector has peeled up so I peeled off ... all good so far.. but if you get this phone usually it's on a 24 month contract then you swap phones to 2 gens later. Also I'd assume everyone would get the insurance for the screen replacement etc... so if that's done you just send it in for any screen issues .
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sorry, blackhawk.. do you have one of these?? best phone ever lol.
if the stock protector fail, replacements are easy
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No, blackhawk just likes bagging it as far as I can tell.
Best. Phone. Ever. For me, anyway.
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Ya been a Note User since the first one .. after going Fold 3 I can never go back... love the screen .. really better battery, cameras, I'd like a micro SD slot again and for thr s pen to go into the phone and it would be perfect...
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I loved the note, from the very first, and my note 12 pro tablet. Now that I'm retired and don't need the spen I love the fold. It's like carrying a tablet in your pocket everywhere.
I can't wait until they actually get the whole 'Z' folding thing working, to triple the size
What I find funny is all the people bagging the idea of the Fold, alongside all the companies trying to make one themselves. I'm pretty sure Apple will sell one in five years, well behind the curve as usual while claiming to be ahead as usual.
Ha ha yes exactly apple will bring a foldable out when samsung goes to the next design for foldable.. I also like that sliding screen they might out put out ... I'd rather the than the folding but for now beggars can't be choosers lol
it's interesting that no one here had a bad experience while a similar thread on reddit is full of (cracked) displays
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it's interesting that no one here had a bad experience while a similar thread on reddit is full of (cracked) displays
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Link? (or it didn't happen )

Question Got some permanent stains on the Display

Hey everbody,
I got some stains on the display that cannot be removed any more. If you move over them with the finger tip, you can feel a unevenness down. I have no idea where they could have been from.
What do u guys think. Im usually really careful with my smartphone.
I am by no means an expert first and foremost.
But when I have something I can't get off my glasses with regular cleaning, I will use some toothpaste and a soft microfiber cloth and that has just the right abrasiveness to get whatever is on my glasses off them. Granted there's more cleaning involved but it works for me
spart0n said:
I am by no means an expert first and foremost.
But when I have something I can't get off my glasses with regular cleaning, I will use some toothpaste and a soft microfiber cloth and that has just the right abrasiveness to get whatever is on my glasses off them. Granted there's more cleaning involved but it works for me
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Thanks mate. But im pretty sure these are tiny "holes" in the top layer of the display.
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What do u guys think. Im usually really careful with my smartphone.
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I think that you have not been careful enough and somehow damaged your display. It's possible that you only damaged the oleophobic coating, and not the underlying glass (should be easy to tell by looking at the display when it's ON - do the pixels underneath the damage still work?).
There is no other explanation to this, at least not from the looks of it (since you talk about "a[sic] unevenness down" - implying not superficial stains, but serious damage). There are extremely rare instances where displays damage themselves ("spontaneous shatter") but that is another matter entirely and has nothing to do with your - apparent - circular damages (since those lead to the shatter of the entire tempered glass). I'd wager either fire or acid or something else destructive happened here, but only you can tell.
Fire damage leaves a distinctive mark
Gorilla Glas Victus has a 6-7 on Mohs scale of hardness, you can pick whatever might have been your problem:
I have the same issue, appeared two days ago. I have one small one that looks the same as your small ones, On mine the mark is under the top glass, it almost looks like dust under an applied screen protector. If I look at it at 180 deg for the mark I can't see it at all, not until i move about 5 deg off 180, then at about a 45 deg angle it dissapears again.
To me that very big one looks like damage to the top surface, then the others look like they are below the glass
did you possibly get alcohol on the screen that dried up? I have something similar that happened to my screen and the only thing I can remember that possibly got on my screen was alcohol. I woke up the next day and noticed the spots on my phone but only when the screen is off
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did you possibly get alcohol on the screen that dried up? I have something similar that happened to my screen and the only thing I can remember that possibly got on my screen was alcohol. I woke up the next day and noticed the spots on my phone but only when the screen is off
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Alcohol is bad for the phone's display because it'll heat up the display and the glue inside will lose its stickiness. This causes the display to fall out or some damages like this cause the display to burn inside and show like this!
@randylahey786 Why in all heavens should alcohol heat up the display unless you burn it on the display/phone ? ..... and just for the record: i have been using isopropanol since ages to clean glasses, binoculars and, yes, also smartphone displays. BTW the nice tabs provided with many display protectors for cleaning the display are just alcohol swabs as well.....
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I have the same issue, appeared two days ago. I have one small one that looks the same as your small ones, On mine the mark is under the top glass, it almost looks like dust under an applied screen protector. If I look at it at 180 deg for the mark I can't see it at all, not until i move about 5 deg off 180, then at about a 45 deg angle it dissapears again.
To me that very big one looks like damage to the top surface, then the others look like they are below the glass
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can u upload a photo of yours?
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did you possibly get alcohol on the screen that dried up? I have something similar that happened to my screen and the only thing I can remember that possibly got on my screen was alcohol. I woke up the next day and noticed the spots on my phone but only when the screen is off
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Since i dont trink alcohol thats pretty unlikely, but yea, sth must have spilled over there but i have no idea what tbh.
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@randylahey786 Why in all heavens should alcohol heat up the display unless you burn it on the display/phone ? ..... and just for the record: i have been using isopropanol since ages to clean glasses, binoculars and, yes, also smartphone displays. BTW the nice tabs provided with many display protectors for cleaning the display are just alcohol swabs as well.....
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I have seen issues with some people who have used sanitizer to clean the display and the display came out! Sanitizer contains alcohol in it, also isopropanol comes as a cleaning liquid especially for phones so they would've tested it but sanitizer or alcohol drinks are worst!
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I have seen issues with some people who have used sanitizer to clean the display and the display came out! Sanitizer contains alcohol in it, also isopropanol comes as a cleaning liquid especially for phones so they would've tested it but sanitizer or alcohol drinks are worst!
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I agree, as you never know what stuff is included in those sanitizers and of course alcoholic drinks may include sugar and other ingredients that could leave residue on the screen after drying out.
I always get pure isopropanol for cleaning purposes, this way I know it's safe to use
Quite a few people on r/GooglePixel have had the same issue upon release - it's been speculated that it's something to do with the oleophobic coating not adhering to the glass & is a manufacturing fault.
I would contact Google and see if they will replace the device for you as it will probably get worse over time.
it looks like your oleophobic coating has been removed. Can you post some different photos? Do you have another smartphone you can add to the photo? Your display looks very dull (but it could be the photo).
I recommend the toothpaste and micro fiber trick the other comment suggested. then grab some oleophobic spray and coat your screen again. It takes 2 or 3 coatings to get it even but it works well. Unfortunately coating isn't covered in Google's Official Warranty (it says its not on their website). There's a good oleophobic brand that many people use and they swear by it but I forget the name.
But I would get the display even and unform first before doing anything - maybe even using a polisher tool with a really soft brush. Someone did this on reddit on their 6 Pro a few months ago to remove scratches and it worked really well.
I would also try to get as many reddit and xda posts as you can and document them, then contact Google and see what they can do. Also maybe try going to your nearest UbreakIfixit - see what they say? They see hundreds of different phones a day. But there seems to be over 15 posts on reddit that shows the same type of "Spotting" or "blotches" that appear on the 6 / 6 Pro. Not sure what exactly is going on there but some have gotten their devices replaced if I remember correctly (but others were told to kick rocks by google support, so make sure you prepare yourself before calling).
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can u upload a photo of yours?
Since i dont trink alcohol thats pretty unlikely, but yea, sth must have spilled over there but i have no idea what tbh.
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Sorry missed you asking this question, will need to find a camera to take the photo
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I have seen issues with some people who have used sanitizer to clean the display and the display came out! Sanitizer contains alcohol in it, also isopropanol comes as a cleaning liquid especially for phones so they would've tested it but sanitizer or alcohol drinks are worst!
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Neither sanitizer nor alcohol belong on a display. If people damage their phones on purpose or through the sheer act of incompetence, Google is hardly at fault... a phones display should only be cleaned with a fine microfiber cloth - and if the display is too dirty, only a special display cleaner should be used. Even that however should never be DIRECTLY applied to the display, but only used on a microfiber cloth again, which is then used in a slightly wet state to clean the display.
Since I know people, and people do stuff like that (smashing glasses cleaning cloth drenched in alcohol, sanitizer or something like that onto their phones), it's hard to judge/evaluate these threads here. Often it just seems like something that can easily be caused by a user, and is probably not a hardware issue.
xflowy said:
Hey everbody,
I got some stains on the display that cannot be removed any more. If you move over them with the finger tip, you can feel a unevenness down. I have no idea where they could have been from.
What do u guys think. Im usually really careful with my smartphone.
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any update on this?
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any update on this?
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what u mean? the stains are not removable. the coating seems to be gone at this area. i didnt try the suggestion yet to completely redo the coating
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what u mean? the stains are not removable. the coating seems to be gone at this area. i didnt try the suggestion yet to completely redo the coating
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was wondering if you tried google support at all, just to see what they would say. there's other instances of "blotching" on reddit on the Google Pixel forum. Do you know how it might have happened now that its been a few more days>?
xflowy said:
Hey everbody,
I got some stains on the display that cannot be removed any more. If you move over them with the finger tip, you can feel a unevenness down. I have no idea where they could have been from.
What do u guys think. Im usually really careful with my smartphone.
You have touch these screen with something containing parfum
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Same issue. It was caused by dripping some salsa on the screen at a restaurant and didn't notice it right away. First time I've ever had anything like this happen to a phone screen.

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