Hello friends. I bought S20 fe exynos 990 and gets very hotting during phone calls. I feel it in my ear. Before that,I was using s9+, it did not have such a problem. Is there anything that can be done to fix this problem?
Dear @Okan94:
Unfortunately, this processor got huge problems with overheating. I've also bought S20 (first realease) a year ago, and after a week i've returned back that, cause its almost "went into flames" in a mostly simple operations. I heard about some Class Action LawSuit WorldWide against this processor, but don't know how this ended.
As an extreme example (?):
It happened during a car driving ( i always use three apps simultanesouly - Google Maps + Music + Yanosik [polish antiradar app] with Vidoe Recording)...that ended really badly = the brilliant(!) "Safe&Secure" built-in chip simply disabled/closed running apps, to reduce the overheats from 70-80C down to around 60C! it happened to me 3 time during couple of car trips, but never before on other Galaxys.
I think this is still a problem with Exynos 990 and apparently Samsung will still be pushing this crap into other devices.
I ended up finally with S20 FE 5G 8/256GB...i'm more than happy now
Good luck Man!
And this is the answer you will get like 100% of the time.
The thing is, when I bought it, it tended to heat and stay that way, since it was constatly running heavy background tasks, especially when you clone old device to new (I consider overheating if it goes above 45* which only does when I play demanding games for hours) or charging on 25w fast charging. The only other time it gets close to 45 is when I expose it directly to sun and outside is easily 28+ degrees (celsius) show me the phone who remains cold on direct sunlight when it's scorching.
The unit will start to heat and etc much less - including prologue battery sustainability as days go by, but what I dont get is how are you people getting 60c ?
For me it never went beyond 45 to begin with, and it stays at stable 27-37 when I use it moderately to extensively - the same thing you get with SD, don't sell empty stories, plus not all of us are willing or can switch back and forth.
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The period when it's at the lowest is when I was using phone just for some social media activity and etc or in idle mode. I actually even went ahead and allowed the threshold to increase for 2 C more before throttling.
The icons here can be confusing but basically Third level (orange unhappy smiley means that it's above 35 and closing to 42-45. And that's by no means hot potato temperature.
Not ideal but also fairly normal. My suggestion is to install thermal apps to identify what exactly is overusing your phone CPU in the background all the time because that's what causing overheating and doze it when you don't need it.
Samsung have stopped production of the S20FE in the Exynos 990 variant.
apparently it will be replaced by a snapdragon 4G version and the existing stock will be sold off cheap.
I'd google that lawsuit and see about trying to get Sammy to swap your phones for something else (if that's at all achievable).
LOTS of unhappy ''Exytoast'' users on reddit r/Samsung Galaxy S20FE
Try a network reset.
Clear system cache.
Okan94 said:
Hello friends. I bought S20 fe exynos 990 and gets very hotting during phone calls. I feel it in my ear. Before that,I was using s9+, it did not have such a problem. Is there anything that can be done to fix this problem?
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It will always have a heating issue, such a bad processor, that's why I spend the extra 100 pounds and got the snapdragon, hasn't overheated once even when playing cod mobile on high settings
I've got the exy version, and two weeks later it was completely replaced by the Snapdragon version in Brazil markets. I've got pissed and called Samsung to switch my Exynos by a snapdragon version. They told me I can send the phone for assistance and evaluation, but before I should try a new FW version they launched - but not in Brazil yet.
SW version endings with BTL1 (mine is CUCC from April). I'll wait for more or less one month. If nothing happens I can send it to Samsung (to a replacement, I hope so)
Samsung is notorious for substituting parts during a production run including smaller chipsets and... heat pipes.
This can and does cause consumer issues. The most common one is firmware updates producing erratic results with the substituted chipsets that didn't recieve that correct instructions
That can be one reason why Samsung asks for the unit; to physically inspect it to see what they used in it as they can't tell otherwise
For a box full of rabid gerbils they do pretty good...
How frustrating....I'll wait some time, and return the unit to them - obviously asking for an snapdragon version
They removed Exynos from market and are selling the SD version CHEAPER ¬¬
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Awesome read for those seeking answers as to why Samsung took the action they did on the Note 7.
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I also read that Samsung actually knew the risk but decided to "push it". They paid for it dearly if that is true.
In any case, I returned my device long ago because there is no chance I would pay that much money for a possibly compromised device with many disadvantages. For the future, I hope Samsung wises up, starts making safe phones again and explains the situation, otherwise I can't buy from them anymore.
This isn't new "news", but having a major article highlight what we have pretty much known was the issue is nice. Hopefully Samsung sheds some official light on the subject, but they are probably hoping it just fades away so they won't bring attention to it. I really hope they don't lower the Display to body ratio on they next phones - one of the nicest things about the N7 is the high display to body size ratio. They were able to get a very high display to body ratio in the S7, with a bigger battery than the N7 even, without problems, so they can do it. Yes the N7 has the S Pen which takes up space, but there has to be a way to get a 3600 size battery (or bigger) into the next Note phone without having this issue. Maybe if they go with a slightly bigger display (5.8 to 5.9) that will allow more room to work with. Same high display to body ratio but slightly bigger display and internal room to work with. Very interested to see what the S8 has in store, as that will likely give us an idea on what the N8 will be looking like.
I just can't quite understand why making the size of the phone so thin is of such overriding importance, especially considering that most people want a phone with a decent sized battery that will last for a decent amount of time. Seriously, what is the difference if they put a 4 or 5k sized battery and the phone is .5mm thicker.
This is a bull**** article written by hacks who have zero journalistic or scientific credentials, or even skills. None of it is true.
The original batteries did indeed caught on fire ( not exploded) because of a manufacturing defect by Samsung SDI, which was fixed after the first recall by switching to a different manufacturer.
To get at the truth one only needs to look at the, GASP - FACTS.
There were five "explosions" after the first recall, and ZERO after the second.
complete bs and samsung knows it.
Agreed. The people saying it was an aggressive design are idiots. Other phones use the same aggressive design and even higher mAH batteries. We wont know the truth until samsung releases their findings.
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Agreed. The people saying it was an aggressive design are idiots. Other phones use the same aggressive design and even higher mAH batteries. We wont know the truth until samsung releases their findings.
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We were promised official results before the end of the year. Let's hope that holds true.
Why do people feel so threatened by the possibility that this is actually true? It is obvious it wasn't batteries alone, since they x-rayed every single battery yet the still went pop. It is still obiously a rare problem and whoever wants may still keep their phone regardless??
We want the results from SAMSUNG themselves. Honestly, considering the very small amount of failures out of the number of devices sold....
The Verge is reporting that; "Samsung will reveal the cause of the Galaxy Note 7’s exploding battery this Sunday"
Moment of Truth?
Can't wait. So we can finally move on and they can finally make a good phone for us again.
Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
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Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
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Hoping this is a simplistic assumption. There has to be a bigger/broader explanation. Apple, LG, Sony, etc. (put in the same position) wouldn't sacrifice billions and loose a whole product line over "just battery issues". They would recall the device, blame the battery manufacturer and replace the battery with a more reliable one. I could even see a scenario in which the replacement battery has a slight spec bump for "goodwill and PR purposes".
No, there has to be more at play here like an inherent design flaw. Perhaps one that only allow for limited high capacity battery options given the allotment of space in the device as has been reported elsewhere.
Lets just hope they are truthful, yes?
it's seeming likely what some have guessed of there not being enough expansion room for the battery being the second battery issue, as if that was the problem they would need to totally redesign either the battery to be smaller or reengineer the frame and everything else in the phone to free up space for the battery expansion, this is the only way I could it see it being an issue that is unfixable in a reasonable time frame.
but really until we see what they release everything is just guess work, just have to hope the release a bit more detail other than just "battery issues"
I doubt we will get the whole, complete truth. Just enough to regain confidence of consumers and investors.
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I doubt we will get the whole, complete truth.
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What difference does it make? The reason the Note7 was killed wasn't just because of a mysterious overheating issue. There's no question that with time Samsung could have figured it out and corrected it. Once the Note7 became a global laughing stock and lightning rod for negative hits on Samsung's reputation the choice was allow the Note7 to flounder in the public eye while they tried to fix it or kill it.
Here's the S7 Edge and Note7 overlaid. They are virtually the same size. Note the similar width.
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Look at the internals.
The silo for the S Pen takes up almost half an inch vertically running parallel to the battery. To keep the Note7's battery capacity and physical size comparable to the S7 Edge Samsung crammed ten pounds of sh!t in to a five pound bag. To "fix" the Note7 would have required a new smaller capacity battery and/or a complete retooling of its internals. The latter would have taken months which Samsung didn't have. The cost of a fix probably wouldn't have been much cheaper than pulling the plug. So they did. Simple as that. It was a business decision that killed the Note7. The issue leading up to its death was both a technical and ego drive one in that Samsung tried to deliver too much in the packaging they chose and pushed the technology available beyond its limits. A future case study for business majors.
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Looks to have been leaked early:
http://amp.androidcentral.com/galaxy-note-7-had-two-separate-battery-defects
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WTF?
This is what they gonna share? This is even less BS than the first guess anyone made when the first battery exploded!!!
This is as retarded as saying "the Battery exploded because of fire inside the phone, because we made bad phones".
xD
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/01/live-samsung-talks-about-the-exploding-galaxy-note7/
Interesting, but not surprising. Most interesting is two different issues in both sets of battery production. Basically the way the battery was manufactured to meet the specs of the phone size (and the SPen added less room to fit the battery so now we know why the N7 had a slightly smaller battery than the S7) meant building a battery that was just too tight for Lithium battery chemicals. But still two different issues in both different productions of the batteries (original run, and 2nd run after the first recall).
I can't help but notice they said failures happened early in the life of devices. So maybe holdbacks were right all along and why are they now pushing to get the last few percent back? I am NOT saying people should keep them, I don't know what this means. If someone can clarify if they know more about these things...
I thought one of the presenters said battery B's is problem is more likely to occur later in life.
"...Samsung may start reselling the recalled Note 7 handsets, 3m of which had been sold, as refurbished phones fitted with new, safe batteries..." The Telegraph uk
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jopa7 said:
"...Samsung may start reselling the recalled Note 7 handsets, 3m of which had been sold, as refurbished phones fitted with new, safe batteries..." The Telegraph uk
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Hmm interesting. Wonder if thats going to happen. Im so fed up with my G3 LG by now and its only been a month or so with it. Miss my N7, still waiting to get some good news on reactivating the thing.
On another note, where all the smart asses who kept telling me it was the battery fit that caused the fires??
This is how Samsung plans to prevent future phones from catching fire
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I thought one of the presenters said battery B's is problem is more likely to occur later in life.
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They did but they didn't say at what point in the tests the ones with manufacturing defects failed nor did they say how many of the 200k phones and 30k batteries failed.
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When you buy the top notch phone that retails more than $1000 you expect to get the best performance. Not only Samsung didn't equipt the Note 10+ with the new SD885+, the new Global version of the phone comes with the Exynos 9825 that lacks in performance against the old SD855. That's not acceptable. What do you think?
The Exynos wins in single core performance and app launch time, they have comparable battery life and the SD wins in multi threaded workloads and GPU. But if you look at the 9820 vs sd855 anandtech review, the gpu is actually almost on par with the SD version and while the 9825 is very slightly overclocked it shouldnt lose this hard. Looks like an optimization issue to me rather than a raw power one. At the end of the day they perform similar in everyday use, but since more people use sd devices than exynos once they will be more optimized for games and such. Dont worry about it too much imo, yes it sucks that we got a worse version globally but its not a huge deal and definitely not a dealbreaker.
I would of thought more people used the Exynos version considering it's pretty much the entire world, while SD is mainly just north america or are samsung's sales outside America really that bad?
Pretty much to be expected as always.
I guess that optimization will improve the 9825 but not sure if it will make it to the SD855 performance. AFAIK Samsung can't use the Exynos chip in the USA because of patent protections so they using SD's. At least they should sell the Exynos version cheaper...
I Think that it's about time I stop buying an exynos note. It performs way worse than the snapdragon variant 3rd year in a row.
For me it is a deal breaker.
A phone asking 1000+ $ and flagged as flagship must have the latest soc, fact.
But....they wouldn't dare putting 855+ in comparison with the exynos9825 that maybe can compete with the almost 2 years old 845 soc. Really a shame.
No upgrading for me, sticking to my note9 and waiting for a proper flagship with flagship specs, means 855+ soc.
I already bought the Note 10+ Exynos before I knew it was inferior to the SD version. But if the next samsung flagship will not fix this, it will be the last Exynos device I'm buying maybe the last Samsung device altogether.
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I already bought the Note 10+ Exynos before I knew it was inferior to the SD version. But if the next samsung flagship will not fix this, it will be the last Exynos device I'm buying maybe the last Samsung device altogether.
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Well, aside from performance, if you are into rooting your device, the SD is pretty much not a choice unless you get the Hong Kong version. AFAIK, the only fully rootable version is the Exynos. I personally, would never consider the locked down version of the SD just based on principle. If I own the device and pay over $1000, I want to be the judge of what I can and can't do to it. It's like buying a Ferrari and being told the insurance company has disabled parts of it and it won't drive more than 60 mph. Weather you actually root or not becomes irrelevant. It's the principle.
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I have no issues with the Exynos, it runs smoothly, performance is perfectly acceptable, yes the 855 might be slightly better in certain areas, but I think its marginal.....
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Well, aside from performance, if you are into rooting your device, the SD is pretty much not a choice unless you get the Hong Kong version. AFAIK, the only fully rootable version is the Exynos. I personally, would never consider the locked down version of the SD just based on principle. If I own the device and pay over $1000, I want to be the judge of what I can and can't do to it. It's like buying a Ferrari and being told the insurance company has disabled parts of it and it won't drive more than 60 mph. Weather you actually root or not becomes irrelevant. It's the principle.
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In my last 3 phones from Samsung I didn't feel the need to root so that not a deal breaker for me. If you pay for Ferrari you don't want to end up with Maserati
Have you seen the battery on exynos version. https://youtu.be/RTezwqJgo5M
7 h and 47 min on gaming and rec 4k 60fp. Beat all competitors flagship without p30 pro Exynos is awesome even if is surpass in performance. Lets be real. Exynos will manage anything we drop at him no matter what.Battery is important. And so far by youre complains on xda compare to exynos sd is a failure.
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Have you seen the battery on exynos version. https://youtu.be/RTezwqJgo5M
7 h and 47 min on gaming and rec 4k 60fp. Beat all competitors flagship without p30 pro Exynos is awesome even if is surpass in performance. Lets be real. Exynos will manage anything we drop at him no matter what.Battery is important. And so far by youre complains on xda compare to exynos sd is a failure.
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I saw this test, but I didn't see the SD version tested. Also I have no problem to sacrifice some battery time for more performance (within reason).
I backup my opinion with my eperience. 1 day with note 10+ exynos version. Litle bit waze, 1h talk, 7 h youtube, 1/2 4g 1/2 wifi, some 3d attemp, heavy usage. Phenomenal battery. Exynos from s10+ and note 10+ is a win.
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Hello
First i wanted to get the One Plus 8 Pro, but i read numerous threads of people reporting heat, display, and a lot of other problems so i got that out of my list.
Hows the S20 plus the Snapdragon version ? Any know real issues ?
With s21 just around the corner i wouldnt go below note 20 ultra 865+ variant
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With s21 just around the corner i wouldnt go below note 20 ultra 865+ variant
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Tbh thats a bit expensive
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Tbh thats a bit expensive
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Have you checked on wondamobile? Its on promotion at the moment
If you need a phone asap the regular s20 Snapdragon can be found for a really good price come cyber monday.. I've had zero issues with it .
I personally prefer the smaller size and the price is great for a really snappy phone. I'm getting around 6.5hrs screen on time as well.
No Root but that hasn't bothered me one bit
Currently updated s20 with exynos is pretty much the same as snapdragon and on daily basis you wont notice any difference, in fact my s20+ exynos version never gave me any reason to complain and at least you have warranty which may not be as easy and straight forward with imported snapdragon
So there are no know problems with the S20/plus
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So there are no know problems with the S20/plus
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I wouldn't necessarily label these problems but there are issues which you might consider before purchasing the S20 Plus.
The rear cameras aren't flush with the back panel, they protrude. It doesn't look like much in promotional photos but it clashes with the symmetry of the device and won't lay flat. Also at 6.37" x 2.90" it's not what most consider a "pocket phone"' it's a big device which is the trend these days.
There's no 3.5 mm jack, the wired earpiece connection is routed through the charging port which requires an adapter. If you're fine with Bluetooth for audio no big deal but as an audio buff a wired connection is superior.
Only Asian Snapdragon variants offer unlocked bootloaders, if you won't root the device that shouldn't matter. The UI is refined to the point you may not want to bother with root. Plus there are numerous models even within the S20 Plus. If full Call Feature functionality is a top priority then aquire your service provider's device, which in your case would mean a Exynos SoC.
It's an expensive smartphone, there are other options available for hundreds of dollars less that may be suitable for your needs. Overall it's a great device, maybe the best smartphone on the market but not necessarily the best value.
If I was considering a purchase at this time I'd hold off until the S21 is released in January or February. If you do and still prefer the, S20 Plus it will available at an even lower price than today.
Hello, who knows what this acronym means?
SM-G9880 (S20 Ultra, Hong Kong)
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I'm almost decided. I'm buying the G30, and the battery is one of the main reasons.
I'm tempted to buy the Amazon-exclusive 6GB version. Everything else on board is identical; just 6GB instead of 4GB RAM.
However, would the 6GB affect battery performance vs the 4GB version, whose battery benchmarks are pretty much where I need them? Does anyone know?
Depends somewhat on the memory type.
My Note 10+ has a older generation of ram memory than the N20U. With 12 gb of ram all I notice is snappy performance with good battery life.
The impact of 2 gb of extra ram on battery life should be very small. 6 gb is the minimum I would have so it's a no brainer to go for the 6 gb variant.
Thanks! That makes sense and come to think of it my previous phone was 6GB too so I shouldn't downgrade.
Some interesting answers here if anyone else has the same question:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/j1os1g
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Right now I have two browser open. You'll want the 6 gb. I reccomend staying away from Android 11, it's a hog that gives little in return.
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Hmmm... I don't know. For the specs I'm looking for, there aren't many more options out there.
Yes, the G30 is no flagship but it's got exactly what I want: great battery, it's not too large or bulky, dual sim, it doesn't have MIUI nor much bloatware, has decent camera.
I don't think I have many more options with somewhat decent specs, esp. at 6GB.
There's the G10 but it's got bad Wi-Fi, and all the 'power' models are worse in other specs, I think.
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Hmmm... I don't know. For the specs I'm looking for, there aren't many more options out there.
Yes, the G30 is no flagship but it's got exactly what I want: great battery, it's not too large or bulky, dual sim, it doesn't have MIUI nor much bloatware, has decent camera.
I don't think I have many more options with somewhat decent specs, esp. at 6GB.
There's the G10 but it's got bad Wi-Fi, and all the 'power' models are worse in other specs, I think.
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I never use wi-fi, it's a security risk. No need for it if you have an unlimited plan except as a hot spot.
By enabling only wifi updates then setting Playstore etc to only do automatic updates by wi-fi you can stop those apps auto-updates from raising hell. I use the wi-fi options like that
Get best rated phone with best specs in the class you're looking at. The more of that model sold the better the support and parts availability.
Consider used models in excellent condition as well; example, a Note 10+ 512 gb can be had for $650. Just check the display for burn in with Screen Test before accepting. B&H Photo gives you a 100% return policy on anything you buy from them.
Batteries are fairly easy to replace even on the 10+ so don't sweat that.
Nah, that approach doesn't work for me at all. It's not even about class, as not all the phones in each class have the exact same config.
Firstly, almost all flagship phones are huge anyway, and I don't like huge. Then they almost never have better batteries than this. A good phone is no use if you can't keep it on.
Then, many excellent phones use MIUI, which I loathe. And so on. I'm not above used and refurbished models, but only when they fit my requirements.
I don't have an unlimited data plan cause there's no need for that. I use 2-3GB total and that's how much I need.
Different strokes. Thanks for your help though
Is a Good phone. 90hz, Awesome! Big battery. It depends on the user how long it last...
If you don't use wifi, bluetooth, nfc and apps that eats power will last for a long time.
Very good value for the money.
New, not from the store, around 100$, in my region/country. 6/128 gb
I use Note 10+ 5g, the most beautifull phone. Good? Not so much. That 90hz (G30)over 60hz (Note 10), on the G30 matters! Huge price! I pay around 650 $ last year, in the summer. G30 moves better. Less bloatware.
Bluetooth seems to use very little battery on my 10+ in standby mode or in actual use. In 12 hours including 4 hours active usage it was at 1%.
Samsung's done a good job with their bt Buds+ it would seem.
I get 8 hours of Screen-on time & still 13% is left.