Looking for possible work arounds no way I'm buying a $1700. phone with Dual and eSIM disabled.
Done carrying around 2 phones
Wouldn't buying an international version be a solid option or would the US carriers still not support or disable the option ?
Galaxy Z Fold 3 has two physical SIM slots and an eSIM (but not in the US)
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-z-fold-3-two-sim-slots-and-esim/
Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the UShttps://www.pcmag.com/news/samsungs-z-flip-3-z-fold-3-are-both-single-sim-in-the-us
yeha I am totally bummed out again. I have a S21 thinking I was able to use eSIM in the US...still nothing. Now that I am getting the Fold 3... it's going to be same.
Samscum. Go ahead blame the carriers. I dare you, I double dare you.
Wondering whether we can flash EU or south american ROM on our us U our U1 model, as all fold 3 models come with snapdragon processor now? This is how I was able to get esim on US unlocked Note20 ultra U1 by flashing T-Mobile ROM.
gkarkala said:
Wondering whether we can flash EU or south american ROM on our us U our U1 model, as all fold 3 models come with snapdragon processor now? This is how I was able to get esim on US unlocked Note20 ultra U1 by flashing T-Mobile ROM.
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Thats a good question Is eSIM still working on it ?
I don't see much up to date rom action in the note 20 ultra development forums no official LineageOS maybe better off just waiting for the Pixel Fold ?
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Samscum. Go ahead blame the carriers. I dare you, I double dare you.
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I mean, I'm not disagreeing that Sammy is not partly to blame here, but T-Mobile did make the call to unlock esim on the Note 20 even after samsung refused to give esim to even unlocked models. So I do think carriers have some say in the matter as well.
I ordered the T-mobile version of the device through Samsung........assuming it will come with T-mobile SIM card, what do I do to activate, just put in the SIM and go online to T-mobile to activate the device?
I hate NA! I wish we have eSIM. I really do need two lines on my primary
I noticed there are sim pins on top and bottom when I was inserting my sim. The tray is single, but looks like it has the hardware for 2 sims.
So which one do you use?
Hello. It it known if there are any NA carriers that support eSim for Fold3 owners?
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I noticed there are sim pins on top and bottom when I was inserting my sim. The tray is single, but looks like it has the hardware for 2 sims.
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I dont get it . do you have any image please?
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Why does it say “SIM 1” if there is only one SIM. My guess is that there is an esim but de-activated that is why the physical sim is named that way.
also on the back of the sim tray , looks like another sim card can fit. I am yet to get my fold3, but anyone with fold3 can see if a sim card sits on the back of the tray as well (PLEASE DONT INSERT IT IN THE PHONE )
Drnms said:
Why does it say “SIM 1” if there is only one SIM. My guess is that there is an esim but de-activated that is why the physical sim is named that way.
also on the back of the sim tray , looks like another sim card can fit. I am yet to get my fold3, but anyone with fold3 can see if a sim card sits on the back of the tray as well (PLEASE DONT INSERT IT IN THE PHONE )
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it does not.
Can someone post a picture of the dual sim tray from the international version ?
Same as us one except sim slot both sides
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I dont get it . do you have any image please?
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Look inside the sim tray opening with a light, you see gold contacts for sim card on top and bottom. Assuming or sim 1 and 2
Arr6 said:
Look inside the sim tray opening with a light, you see gold contacts for sim card on top and bottom. Assuming or sim 1 and 2
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so theoretically if we get a UK version sim tray , it should be easier to try and see if the dual nano sim work.
and then the question is can we flash the UK/EUROPEAN FIRMWARe to the US phone given that the hardwares are exactly the same (other than the LTE, BANDS ACCESS MODULE)
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There was a thread (I can't seem to find it) from a bunch of Mobilicity subscribers that complain about this phone taking a very long time (5+ minutes) to register on Mobilicity's network after a reboot. I think I've come across with a solution. Go to a (different) store and pick up a new SIM card. Tell them the old SIM is defective.
Using my previous SIM it takes me a good 5+ minutes to register onto Mobi's network even if everything is set correctly, after I got my new SIM and tried it numerous times now, issue seems to be fixed. I haven't changed anything on my phone so I strongly suspect it's the new SIM that did the trick. It now takes around 10 seconds to find the network. Not as fast as registering to Rogers's network using a Rogers SIM (which is almost instant) but much better performance now.
YMMV but give it a try!
EDIT:
Remember, in phone settings set "WCDMA only" and dial *#*#2263#*#* to set "WCDMA 1700 preferred".
that's a good suggestion
i recall a similar scenario on my old Nexus S and using older SIMs will sometime has problems, then i got a new SIM, and all the issues went away.,
Do you think it's possible that this happens on Telus' network as well? It takes me a good 5 minutes after any reboot to get service. I've got my SIM card from my Motorola Milestone (December 2010) so I'm not sure if the SIM card is old or not.
any physical differences or markings on the newer sims?
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any physical differences or markings on the newer sims?
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No except for the lining pattern on the chip is different (not sure if that means anything).
And also I know it's definitely a different batch of SIM because the numbers pre-programmed in the SIM are different. Go to "SIMTookit" you'll see what's programmed in there.
The previous batch has "*TAXI" which the newer batch doesn't.
513263337 said:
No except for the lining pattern on the chip is different (not sure if that means anything).
And also I know it's definitely a different batch of SIM because the numbers pre-programmed in the SIM are different. Go to "SIMTookit" you'll see what's programmed in there.
The previous batch has "*TAXI" which the newer batch doesn't.
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My Telus SIM card doesn't have that, but I feel like it is affected just like your SIM Card, in terms of when I reboot, I have no service for a good 2-3 minutes..
513263337 said:
No except for the lining pattern on the chip is different (not sure if that means anything).
And also I know it's definitely a different batch of SIM because the numbers pre-programmed in the SIM are different. Go to "SIMTookit" you'll see what's programmed in there.
The previous batch has "*TAXI" which the newer batch doesn't.
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can you take a photo to compare?
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can you take a photo to compare?
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agreed, please and thanks
while mine does not say taxi, the gold part seems to have an X pattern. new or old?
skadude66 said:
Do you think it's possible that this happens on Telus' network as well? It takes me a good 5 minutes after any reboot to get service. I've got my SIM card from my Motorola Milestone (December 2010) so I'm not sure if the SIM card is old or not.
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they changed my SIM for my phone because i had an older one from november 09... all i know is that the chip on the new one is half the size of the older one.
kriEv said:
they changed my SIM for my phone because i had an older one from november 09... all i know is that the chip on the new one is half the size of the older one.
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It's a microSIM card?
no the sim is the same size. the gold connecter area is smaller.
madman604 said:
no the sim is the same size. the gold connecter area is smaller.
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Hmmm, does it cost anything to get a new SIM card? Not sure if I have the latest one or not. Or if it may even alleviate the issue.
Any way u could post a pick or gave us the numbers they use to start with?
Mine starts with 89302 32XXX XXXXX XX866 and I got it back in May I think, it may be before than that.
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Does anyone have a better solution? It takes me 2min and 30sec to find mobi's signal. I would like to get it down to less than a min.
Worked like a CHARM! Many thanks for this simple yet effective fix. Now I've just got to find a Rom/Kernel/Radio combo to have my S2X get reception as well as my Mobi BB 9360.
Rom: CM9.1.0
Kernel: Default
Radio: TLLE4
Hi guys,
I have my new Galaxy Nexus unbranded, here in Costa Rica we have some carriers, the main one ICE (Green frog), and others like, claro, movistar, tuyo movil, the thing is the nexus does not recognize the main carrier sim card but if you try with tUYO sim card it works great.
I attached the picture of both sim cards.
I really appreciated any help or suggestions.
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The one on the left looks like the normal one based on the chip position. The one on the right looks odd, may be a very old sim? Can't you exchange for a newer sim and try?
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I'm having the same kind of issue, I've already unlocked the boot loader, rooted and reset everything on the phone and only one type of SIM card is read, I've tried 3 different SIMs and only one seems to work, none of my postpaid lines will work either, it seems that only that particular pattern will read on the Galaxy Nexus, has anyone else had this issue?
This is not an issue with the Gnex....it is with the sim cards.....there is a plenty of phones (even cheap ones) that don't read some sim cards witch have a specific scheme ......i have some experience with that.......
Plus....the Gnex with 4.0.1 doesn't read sim cards with a pin lock....it's a bug......
looks like the sim cards are not the same as the "main stream" or most common sim cards. i reccomend trying a sim card were the chip is like most others.
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walidhiphop said:
This is not an issue with the Gnex....it is with the sim cards.....there is a plenty of phones (even cheap ones) that don't read some sim cards witch have a specific scheme ......i have some experience with that.......
Plus....the Gnex with 4.0.1 doesn't read sim cards with a pin lock....it's a bug......
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mines read my sim card on 4.0.1 and same with my wife 4.0.1, both pin locked.
Thanks for the replies, but the weird thing is, among the SIMs that don't work the one on the end of the photo I just posted is the same pattern as the one that works. So if I understand this correctly, unless my carrier uses the exact same SIM for postpaid lines as the prepaid one that works, I have no hope of using my unlimited Data plan with my GNex?
Does this also mean that even if the SIM will work on an HTC Flyer, iPad, iPhone & Huawei E5 Modem, and it doesn't work on the GNex, it's still the SIM card at fault? I'm really having a hard time wrapping my head around this.
kentamayo said:
Thanks for the replies, but the weird thing is, among the SIMs that don't work the one on the end of the photo I just posted is the same pattern as the one that works. So if I understand this correctly, unless my carrier uses the exact same SIM for postpaid lines as the prepaid one that works, I have no hope of using my unlimited Data plan with my GNex?
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Have you tried getting a fresh replacement sim from your carrier(s)? All those sims look pretty old to me.
Except for the cut Micro-SIM, all of those are brand new
kentamayo said:
Except for the cut Micro-SIM, all of those are brand new
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Carrier has no alts? Over here they do, and tbh, I haven't seen sims in those designs (apart from the cut one) in quite a few years. They look like 2004~ sims (at least thats when they looked like that over here)
Our Telcos are terribly inconsistent with regards to their SIM cards, the newest one in the bunch is in between the cut SIM and the OK SIM, I just find it irritating that I can't use my Main SIM card with the GNex, for now I'm stuck with the prepaid one that's OK.
Hi Guys,
I broke my SIM Tray the other day :crying: I live in Indian and looking for a Mi Max Golden color Sim Tray. Have already ordered on Ali Exp. however it takes really long to get an item from Ali to India, almost a month.
I have visited all the service centers in the city I live in and a couple of other citites nearby however no luck, unable to find it on eBay or any other online retailer I know of in India.
If anyone has any suggesitons please do let me know, if you know any site from where I can get it faster then Ali or any offline mode I would really appreciate it.
Thank you.
No other option apart from waiting, Not available in India. Just curious How did your Sim tray broke?
paarkhi said:
No other option apart from waiting, Not available in India. Just curious How did your Sim tray broke?
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Tried Dual Sim and Memory card Mod. Worked on Vodafone and Airtel setup so next tried Jio and Vodafone, was too eager and didn't check the size of Sim and Memory card and inserted it with pressure. Bingo! Sim Tray stuk and had to take it to service center to get removed.
But the Mod works so will try again.
Jay_B said:
Tried Dual Sim and Memory card Mod. Worked on Vodafone and Airtel setup so next tried Jio and Vodafone, was too eager and didn't check the size of Sim and Memory card and inserted it with pressure. Bingo! Sim Tray stuk and had to take it to service center to get removed.
But the Mod works so will try again.
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I was thinking the same reason else there's no reason to break the sim tray, I've also tried the same mod and wasted a Jio sim, the tray was stuck, so rubbed the Jio Sim on a sandpaper (emerypaper) and the circuits broke. Well glad that you tried and were successful.:good:
Got 4 Jio Sim yesterday as I too wasted 1Jio sim...waiting for sim tray to arrive will try again...[emoji1] [emoji6]
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Got the tray... Now have 2 Sims and a memory card working... [emoji2]
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Got the tray... Now have 2 Sims and a memory card working... [emoji2]
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I saw many videos on youtube and I have already separated the plastic from the sim tray but can you please help me with the mod by answering some questions.
1. Did you remove any glue from the back of the sim?
2. Did you grind the microsd card?
3. How did you paste the sim to the microsd?
Thanks
If the sim has a lot of glue, like a bump, you have to remove it. It slides hard enough with the sim chip clear. On some sims, after you heat them under a flame, they come off clear, on others with that big glue bump.
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paarkhi said:
I saw many videos on youtube and I have already separated the plastic from the sim tray but can you please help me with the mod by answering some questions.
1. Did you remove any glue from the back of the sim?
2. Did you grind the microsd card?
3. How did you paste the sim to the microsd?
Thanks
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I dipped the Jio SIM in thinner which women use to remove nail polish for almost and hour.
After that used a switch blade to slightly remove the golden pins of the sim again dipped the sim in thinner so that it enter the golden pin part of the sim and with in a min bingo the golden pins removed from sim and its still usable.
Used Vernier caliper to checking the sim+micro sd card size.
Brushed the SD card slightly and brushed the golden pin of sim till it was slightly showing copper color. the size is appx 1.14 mm (Checked with Vernier caliper.
These are the steps hope it is helpful to you.
Sim Tray Stuck
Hi,
I tried to use double sim and memory idea that I watched from youtube for mi max. :crying::crying:
But now my sim tray even cannot be load out from the phone. I tried to pushed harder and it only bended my sim ejector.
Can you help me please with how to push the sim tray out of the phone since now I can only use one sim card (2nd sim). The 1st nano sim and memory cannot be read and also the tray now stucked on the phone.
Thanks
Regards
I had no problem doing this mod on the Redmi Note 3 because the sim tray is deep. The Mi Max tray is a lot thinner so it's easy to get the SIM card jammed against the pins. I haven't tried this mod because I don't want to take the phone apart...
abeblackmamba said:
Hi,
I tried to use double sim and memory idea that I watched from youtube for mi max. :crying::crying:
But now my sim tray even cannot be load out from the phone. I tried to pushed harder and it only bended my sim ejector.
Can you help me please with how to push the sim tray out of the phone since now I can only use one sim card (2nd sim). The 1st nano sim and memory cannot be read and also the tray now stucked on the phone.
Thanks
Regards
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U need to open the phone or take it to a service centre if u can't do it. If the SIM tray is stuck u can't get it out urself directly and u might damage the golden contact pins instead inside the phone.
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Hi Everyone,
First, thanks to anyone who will search for a solution.
Moto Z2 Play is new, so I don't think there's another topic on this problem with this smartphone.
There are some Reddit topics about same problem with previous motorola Z, but solutions were only flashing custom roms or stock indian roms.
So there's the issue.
I just bought my Z2 play, and I realized there's a second slot for a second nano sim card, covered by a little plastic piece.
I red the paper instructions that confirmed the slot.
I then removed the plastic piece, inserted my second nano sim, booted, and ....... nothing happened.
So there are two possibilities :
- There are multiple Z2 Play hardware configurations, but Motorola decided to use the same slot sim pieces for both one and dual sim.
- There's a software or rom limitation that disable the second nano sim.
In parameters, there are no options for Sim.
I emailed Motorola and Lenovo, so I'll let you know, but I know for sur that XDA members are often more useful than official support.
Thanks to the community
schizhawk said:
Hi Everyone,
First, thanks to anyone who will search for a solution.
Moto Z2 Play is new, so I don't think there's another topic on this problem with this smartphone.
There are some Reddit topics about same problem with previous motorola Z, but solutions were only flashing custom roms or stock indian roms.
So there's the issue.
I just bought my Z2 play, and I realized there's a second slot for a second nano sim card, covered by a little plastic piece.
I red the paper instructions that confirmed the slot.
I then removed the plastic piece, inserted my second nano sim, booted, and ....... nothing happened.
So there are two possibilities :
- There are multiple Z2 Play hardware configurations, but Motorola decided to use the same slot sim pieces for both one and dual sim.
- There's a software or rom limitation that disable the second nano sim.
In parameters, there are no options for Sim.
I emailed Motorola and Lenovo, so I'll let you know, but I know for sur that XDA members are often more useful than official support.
Thanks to the community
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I think it's software but not rom, that one should be controlled by a "Dual Sim" true/false flag you can see from settings-> about phones-> hardware information.
However to change this flag you'll need to as least unload bootloader for system modifications, below are the steps on z and z play:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/guide-dual-sim-mod-signle-sim-moto-z-t3606528
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/guide-to-enable-dualsim-singlesim-t3570601
z2 play nobody did that yet.
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I think it's software but not rom, that one should be controlled by a "Dual Sim" true/false flag you can see from settings-> about phones-> hardware information.
However to change this flag you'll need to as least unload bootloader for system modifications, below are the steps on z and z play:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/guide-dual-sim-mod-signle-sim-moto-z-t3606528
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/guide-to-enable-dualsim-singlesim-t3570601
z2 play nobody did that yet.
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So sorry for the response delay, the notification was flooded in my mailbox.
First, thanks a lot for your answer.
If I had a backup device, i would have try the solution that worked for the Moto Z Play.
But I only have my Z2 Play, and, just like you said, that has never been done on it.
So I'll keep searching on the wide web for a solution, cause I think you're right about the fact it's software.
Why does Motorola shut the second sim?
They would sell much more devices, cause it's a really good phone (after couple of week in my hand, so good), and there are no smartphone with this quality that can take 2 SIM cards AND a micro-SD.
Anyway, if someone else find something, I'm listening.
Thanks a lot @lanyao1920
has anyone managed to find a way to unlock the 2nd sim slot on the z2 play yet, i've been looking around and not been able to find the file necessary to enable the dual sim flag
I did 2 sim cards on my z2play. Here's the instruction.
I have the international version. The instructions are not in English so all I can do is look at the pictures. It looked to me like if I wanted to use an SD card I had to use Sim slot 2. So I have Sim in 2 slot and using SD card. It seems to be working fine on Cricket network. I have nothing in sim slot 1.
I need your help.
I already made the change from false to true,I have 2 working sims on my z2 play but I can´t decide wich line is giving me mobile data,is there anything I can do to change it in Hex editor ?
Thanks in advance.
I bet you need to load the firmware from an officially supported dual SIM variant. Or a custom ROM that supports dual SIM. I'm curious about this phone for it's dual SIM + Verizon capabilities. Anyone tried this yet? I'm on a 1+3T so there is dual SIM support baked into OOS
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I have the international version. The instructions are not in English so all I can do is look at the pictures. It looked to me like if I wanted to use an SD card I had to use Sim slot 2. So I have Sim in 2 slot and using SD card. It seems to be working fine on Cricket network. I have nothing in sim slot 1.
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Can you hit me with the content ? i cant access the link
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Can you hit me with the content ? i cant access the link
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I didn't have a link. The forum did that.
Since my original post, I contacted Motorola and asked if I should put the SIM card in slot 1. They suggested that I do.
So I have it i slot 1 now and have not had any issues.
Murf. said:
I didn't have a link. The forum did that.
Since my original post, I contacted Motorola and asked if I should put the SIM card in slot 1. They suggested that I do.
So I have it i slot 1 now and have not had any issues.
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Oh i see. So after following the instruction, u can use Dual sim on single sim Moto Z2 Play but if u want to use the SD card u will have to eliminate sim 1, rite ?
You can set the device up to use both sim cards, but second IMEI will be 0.
In the UK at least, this is useless as none of our networks will let a 0 IMEI register on the network due to British law.
Regards.
Hello, I am wondering which model goes to which countries....
Specifically I am wondering if the snapdragon version with dual Sim slot exist...
From gsmarena we have the different models:
SM-S901B, SM-S901B/DS, SM-S901U, SM-S901U1, SM-S901W, SM-S901N, SM-S9010, SM-S901E, SM-S901E/DS
I am guessing the DS = dual Sim (physical, and with or without esim)
But which one is snapdragon and which one is exynoss and which one is for what market...
Does anyone knows this?
Here in India we are getting the Snapdragon variant ! I believe in Europe and UK the Exynos Variant, in US, Asia and UAE the Snapdragon, not much sure about the model numbers though !
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Here in India we are getting the Snapdragon variant ! I believe in Europe and UK the Exynos Variant, in US, Asia and UAE the Snapdragon, not much sure about the model numbers though !
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Correct, I've seen which variant is sold where... But I have not found any mention about the model number or the Sim options... :|
Based on the firmware page at sammobile, the
SM-S901E should be the Snapdragon version available at Asia, Pacific, Africa and Latin America;
and SM-S901B only lists countries from Europe, so should be the Exynos one.
we need to discover what are the W, U and N variants.
my guess that one is for North America, one for South Korea and one for China.
flitzjoy said:
Based on the firmware page at sammobile, the
SM-S901E should be the Snapdragon version available at Asia, Pacific, Africa and Latin America;
and SM-S901B only lists countries from Europe, so should be the Exynos one.
we need to discover what are the W, U and N variants.
my guess that one is for North America, one for South Korea and one for China.
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Aaa that would be good news as there is the SM-S901E/DS which would mean they do do a snapdragon with dual Sim card (not just esim)
They could do, and probably will do, but only for some specific markets. Here at Brazil all models being sold are 1 SIM + eSIM.
Edit: indeed they are 2 SIM + eSIM, so being the 901E/DS version. I didnt notice the double side tray until today.
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They could do, and probably will do, but only for some specific markets. Here at Brazil all models being sold are 1 SIM + eSIM.
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Darn... So it's gonna be a bit more complicated to figure out what's going to which market...
In Serbia, our operators offer the Exynos model, which comes with 2 SIMs + 1 eSIM.
For the first time here in Brazil, we a getting snapdragon version, S901E DS. I may be wrong,, but I think B is the only Exynos version, S901B
Yeah I am getting the feeling that only the Exynos version has 2 SIMs + eSIM...
and that there is no snapdragon version with 2 SIMs (only 1 SIM + eSIM)
emilic said:
Yeah I am getting the feeling that only the Exynos version has 2 SIMs + eSIM...
and that there is no snapdragon version with 2 SIMs (only 1 SIM + eSIM)
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Snapdragon version I'm using here in Brazil, allows two Sim cards and supports esim.
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goTouch said:
Snapdragon version I'm using here in Brazil, allows two Sim cards and supports esim.
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aaa great! so you have the SM-S901E/DS
Perfecto!
Germany:
SM-S901BZWGEUB
is S22 exinos 256gb white with 2 SIM + eSIM. However, you can either use 2 SIM or 1 SIM + eSIM.
The US version is SM-S901U and SM-S901U1 with Snapdragon.
Mine came with a single SIM card tray but has support for eSIM.
I wish I could add a second physical SIM card to it, especially since the SIM card slot in the phone has contacts on both sides of the tray.
goTouch said:
Snapdragon version I'm using here in Brazil, allows two Sim cards and supports esim.
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Did you do anything to enable that "download eSIM" option?
I have the exact same model but I have no such option.