Question HDMI over USB? - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Hi,
has there been any rumors about HDMI over USB so far?
If I am not mistaken, this functionality was disabled by Google in the previous pixel phones...

Good question but haven't heard anything yet...

It never was HDMI, it is DisplayPort. HDMI over USB C doesn't exist.

Please add fricking desktop mode to AOSP of Android(I mean native one not gimmick one at Dev Settings). Damn why this is soo hard? You just released a Car Android in it. Why you are not trying anything on desktop mode feature. You already have working framework and API's for it. Samsung, LG, Huawei, Moto using it. And it's working damn well with little mods these OEM makes. Please Google bring official desktop mode to Android phones.

matze19999 said:
It never was HDMI, it is DisplayPort. HDMI over USB C doesn't exist.
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I am no expert but it seem that it does:
HDMI Alt Mode USB Type-C
HDMI Alt Mode for USB Type-C, HDMI Type C, HDMI type-c, HDMI Type-C connector, HDMI Type C connector, 4K, ARC, HEC, CEC,
www.hdmi.org

case closed I guess...
Google Tensor: Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro to feature dual ARM Cortex-X1 and ARM Cortex-A76 cores, no DisplayPort Alt mode supported
According to a report, the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro will run on dual ARM Cortex-X1 and ARM Cortex-A76 cores, supported by four power-efficient Cortex-A55 cores. Both smartphones will support aptX, aptX HD and LDAC Bluetooth codecs, a feature of past Pixel smartphones. There will be no DisplayPort...
www.notebookcheck.net

i tried a usb C to hdmi adapter on the regular pixel 6 today and no luck. i assume it's not going to work with the 6 pro, im going to try with a 6 pro when it gets delivered tomorrow. google hasn't added display out over usb in any of it's phones, I assume because they don't want to directly affect google cast sales

green_link said:
i tried a usb C to hdmi adapter on the regular pixel 6 today and no luck. i assume it's not going to work with the 6 pro, im going to try with a 6 pro when it gets delivered tomorrow. google hasn't added display out over usb in any of it's phones, I assume because they don't want to directly affect google cast sales
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Thank you for trying this out.
It's just a shame considering how good a desktop mode could be looking at the implementations made by Samsung, Huawei and Motorola...

Yeh, we need this capability in today's world! Cheers

emirefek said:
Please add fricking desktop mode to AOSP of Android(I mean native one not gimmick one at Dev Settings). Damn why this is soo hard? You just released a Car Android in it. Why you are not trying anything on desktop mode feature. You already have working framework and API's for it. Samsung, LG, Huawei, Moto using it. And it's working damn well with little mods these OEM makes. Please Google bring official desktop mode to Android phones.
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There's already a desktop mode, albeit it's very barebones on AOSP/Pixel phones...

green_link said:
i tried a usb C to hdmi adapter on the regular pixel 6 today and no luck. i assume it's not going to work with the 6 pro, im going to try with a 6 pro when it gets delivered tomorrow. google hasn't added display out over usb in any of it's phones, I assume because they don't want to directly affect google cast sales
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Except it wouldn't affect Chromecast sales in most cases. It's a completely different use case - casting is mostly a very limited "play this media on this display" thing, and most people would still opt for a $50 dongle if it means they don't have to hook their phones up to the TV.
Whereas display output over a wired connection would be mostly used for desktop (partial) replacement, where a Cast dongle wouldn't work anyway.

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USB C to HDMI?

Anyone have an answer to whether this is supported? Please say yes
There is an adapter cable for sale on the play store.
Link? I just checked and saw no HDMI adapter on there
clninja said:
Link? I just checked and saw no HDMI adapter on there
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Here you go!
Well hopefully that is a good sign that it will work. It's possible they have that on there for the pixel c
clninja said:
Anyone have an answer to whether this is supported? Please say yes
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From the reddit AMA:
[–]strabbit 7 points an hour ago
Will either the Nexus 5x or 6p support HDMI via the USB-C connector?
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[–]google_nexus_team 12 points 54 minutes ago
DB> Nope. But Cast mirroring to ChromeCast or Android TV has got really good. And Chromecasts are only $35. And we have new ones announced yesterday.
That's bull**** if you ask me that they didn't enable it just because they are trying to push more of their products.
Sure I have a chromecast and whatnot and I can do all of that just fine at home.. But if I go somewhere that doesn't have WiFi I want to be able to connect my phone to the TV still.
Google of your going to not enable HDMI adapter connections, then make your chromecast capable of direct connection that doesn't rely on wifi
The usbC port on the nexus uses USB 2.0 standard... not a chance
Most USB-C promised feature (which actually are usb3.1 features) will not work ; it's a shame
No one has been able to confirm the spec on the USB port. Most report it to be 3.0 with some 3.1 sprinkled in.
Magnus_CA said:
No one has been able to confirm the spec on the USB port. Most report it to be 3.0 with some 3.1 sprinkled in.
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I read somewhere that USB is indeed 2.0 with USB type C port, like the OnePlus Two. At least it has quick charging
Does MHL or whatever the other standard is work? I thought that allowed the phone to "cast" to the screen?
Google themselves confirmed during the AMA that it is 2.0
And disabled casting to Roku 3 in 7.0. gotta have a Chromecaat.
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hdmi

does pixel xl have wired hdmi capabilities? if so what hardware do i need to hook up to tv?
also does it have miracast direct wifi capabilities to hook up to my microsoft wireless video adapter?
does it have multicolor led notifications? if not any other type of repeating screen of notifications like the old app NoLED which is no longer attended?
thanks. i hope 3 questions isn't too much for 1 post
I don't know about hdmi or miracast but it does have a notification led. It is stated on Google store page for pixel under specifications.
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dragonsofcp said:
I don't know about hdmi or miracast but it does have a notification led. It is stated on Google store page for pixel under specifications.
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Thank you. One down two to go
Benson said it uses USB 3.1 Gen 1 Host and Client. 5gbps.
Benson Leung said the phone uses USB 3.1 Gen 1 Host and Client. 5gbps. So I think it will work well with your USB C HDMI adapter. I'll test my HDMI adapter when I get my pixel xl.
As above, USB 3.1 -> HDMI adapter. Here is one sold by google, though any will work: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_hdmi_adapter
testinguser said:
As above, USB 3.1 -> HDMI adapter. Here is one sold by google, though any will work: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_hdmi_adapter
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I know that one did not work on the Nexus 6p
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Did 6P have usb 3.1?
Nexus 6P didn't support USB 3.1
SNH48 said:
Benson Leung said the phone uses USB 3.1 Gen 1 Host and Client. 5gbps. So I think it will work well with your USB C HDMI adapter. I'll test my HDMI adapter when I get my pixel xl.
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I called Project Fi Support and the customer service rep did not know, but he was curious as well. When you receive your pixel xl please update us. Thanks!
USB Type-C guru Benson Leung has informed us that the Pixel phones don't work with the adapter because they lack VESA DisplayPort Alternate Mode that is on the Pixel C and Chromebook Pixel, which means that they aren't compatible with any adapters of this sort.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/10/psa-pixel-pixel-xl-not-work-googles-usb-c-hdmi-dongle/
I heard you can't use USB to HDMI, not tried it as I don't have a cable, but would make sense since they likely want to sell a few more Chromecast.
That sucks. I wonder if V20 does. I need hdmi compatibility.
I'm curious if this will work with a displayport based or mhl based usb c- hdmi adapter
I read that the V20 is hdmi compatible so I am leaning toward the v20 at this point
recDNA said:
does pixel xl have wired hdmi capabilities? if so what hardware do i need to hook up to tv?
also does it have miracast direct wifi capabilities to hook up to my microsoft wireless video adapter?
does it have multicolor led notifications? if not any other type of repeating screen of notifications like the old app NoLED which is no longer attended?
thanks. i hope 3 questions isn't too much for 1 post
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The Pixel's do not support Miracast since they would have to pay royalties to include it. They do support Chromecast which you can get a dongle for $35. Which will allow screen mirroring on to a tv.
nrage23 said:
The Pixel's do not support Miracast since they would have to pay royalties to include it. They do support Chromecast which you can get a dongle for $35. Which will allow screen mirroring on to a tv.
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Only if you have wifi everywhere you use it
We can't use it
recDNA said:
does pixel xl have wired hdmi capabilities? if so what hardware do i need to hook up to tv?
also does it have miracast direct wifi capabilities to hook up to my microsoft wireless video adapter?
does it have multicolor led notifications? if not any other type of repeating screen of notifications like the old app NoLED which is no longer attended?
thanks. i hope 3 questions isn't too much for 1 post
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We can't use HDMI output in google pixel phone.
I tried it but it wasn't working well. U.U
Has anyone found a solution to this problem. I want to be able to mirror content from my Google pixel xl to my Sienna rear entertainment system and I was hoping that usb-c to hdmi would work. I bought the cable and then learned that it's not supported. I'm not too happy about this.....any solutions?
Tre_cool99 said:
Has anyone found a solution to this problem. I want to be able to mirror content from my Google pixel xl to my Sienna rear entertainment system and I was hoping that usb-c to hdmi would work. I bought the cable and then learned that it's not supported. I'm not too happy about this.....any solutions?
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You won't like it but... LG V20
I've been investigating all routes to achieve this with my pixel, wish I'd gone for a S7 or LG V20 now as the lack of alternatives to Chromecast are none. The reason being I'm using this in my car with Appradio Unchained and needing an internet signal is a right pain. Not to mention the CC not being picked up randomly by it in cast devices. My nexus 5 was perfect for this as it supported slimport.
I have found something of an alternative however it doesn't quite work unfortunately. There are two modes to mirror, USB debugging and USB Tethering. With debugging I get audio but no video. With Tethering I get video but no audio. Which is making think about buying one of these audio embedders. It would mean having to connect the headphone jack as well but hey it would in theory work and at least the audio would quality would be excellent...

Mobile Docking Stations for Windows 10 Mobile Phones that Enable Continuum

I thought a central list of Mobile Docking Stations that are confirmed to work with your Windows 10 Phone to enable Continuum would be a good central information repository for anyone looking for a dock for their respective phone. Please post Phone Brand & Model , then Post a list of dongles or docks that you have personally tested / owned and can confirm work. See my example. This will make searching the thread easier for someone.
Phone : Alcatel Idol 4S Windows 10 - Model 6071W
DOCKS:
1. Wavlink USB-C Mini Dock - Model WL-UHP3403H-A. (HDMI 4K @ 30fps, 4 x USB 3 Type A ports, Power Delivery)
Confirmed - all USB ports work, HDMI works, Phone charges while connected
Issues - USB Mouse and Keyboard occasionally drops, HDMI cable quality seems to impact usage when using 4K monitor - no issues on 1080P monitor
2. Wavlink USB-C Universal Mini Docking Station with USB Power Delivery - Model WL-UHP3D01G. (HDMI 4K @ 30fps, Gigabit Ethernet, 2 x USB 3 Type A, 1 x USB-C, Power Delivery)
Confirmed - all USB ports work, Gigabit Ethernet works, HDMI works, Phone charges while connected
Issues - HDMI cable quality seems to impact usage when using 4K monitor - no issues on 1080P monitor
List yours please ...
Alcatel IDOL 4S - 4 PRO 6071W
We have the Idol 4S WIndows phone in Canada available from MS store (Black Friday Deal 199.99 unlocked).
I have this phone - been using it for the past 2-months.
Continuum docks that work:
Wavlink WL-UHP3403-A (can get for 30-40 dollars)
Wavlink WH-UHP3D01G (can get for 100-130 dollars)
I have both of these and I can confirm that they work correctly ... the more expensive one has Gigabit Ethernet in addition to HDMI out 4K support.
I am actually using it now to write this post ...
LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
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I am actually using it now to write this post ...
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Did you find any other purpose for Windows Phone yet ?
Sent it back .... LOL
djtonka said:
Did you find any other purpose for Windows Phone yet ?
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Actually I returned it to the Windows store ... I liked the interface - but I didn't really like the limited nature of the apps that are available for it ... really it is too bad - you would think that Microsoft would learn from their mistakes (a la windows RT and CE) ..
The desktop interface without the ability to truly multitask is really, really limiting. So it ended up a bit of a frustrating experience. Oh well - I have moved on .... I currently have the Essential PH-1 ... :laugh:
Cont. and Samung Dex is an hobby , thats all. No real purpose
Incipio WM-PW-264-BLK
INCIPIO USB-C DIGITAL AV MULTIPORT ADAPTER WM-PW-264-BLK
I picked up one of these on eBay and it works perfectly with my Idol 4S and an HDMI-connected Dell 22" 1650x900 screen
Cable Matters cDock USB-C Smartphone Dock
This one works excellent with my 950 XL
Cable Matters cDock USB-C Smartphone Dock with 4K 60Hz Video and Charging for Samsung Galaxy Note 9 / Note 8, Galaxy S9+ / S9 / S8+ / S8, LG G5 / V20, HTC10 / U11, Microsoft Lumia 950 / 950XL and More
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0776XH2HJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The MS Display Dock would work for a USB C device. But, if you don't need KB or mouse, then any device with Wn10 on it will cast. Even an 830 will cast to my TCL Roku tv.
For the HP Elite x3, besides the official dock, I bought an O-shaped USB-C dongle from a brand called Baseus. Doesn't work all the time, especially from power-on/restart; but when it does, it works great. Comes with a Type-C port with PD too, so virtually no port lost.
At the time I bought it, I requested to the store clerk that I would like to test it with my device. Then I did my "magic trick", and she was in awe.
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UGREEn USB-C to HDMI hub
UGREEn USB-C to HDMI hub from aliexpress works fine, runs a bit hot though

Can someone try usb-c to HDMI adapter with LG G8 ?

Hello, can someone try a usb-c to HDMI adapter with the LG G8 please ?
LG G7 was not compatible at first with Android 8 but then LG activated HDMI over USB-C with Android 9 update
Source : https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78969498&postcount=24
LG G8 has Android 9 out of the box so it should work but still no proof
It doesn't look like they've disabled that functionality with the G8 (not all variants are released so keep that in mind).
I don't remember if SomeGadgetGuy showed UsbC-to-HDMI on other videos but it's definitely present in "LG G8 vs G7: Worthy of a One Year Upgrade?" around 3:05 in the video with the G8. Link to the video here: https://youtu.be/9APieviEyYI?t=185
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It doesn't look like they've disabled that functionality with the G8 (not all variants are released so keep that in mind).
I don't remember if SomeGadgetGuy showed UsbC-to-HDMI on other videos but it's definitely present in "LG G8 vs G7: Worthy of a One Year Upgrade?" around 3:05 in the video with the G8. Link to the video here: https://youtu.be/9APieviEyYI?t=185
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Thank you Pak0St ! It's a good news that LG keeps video out over USB-C !
I remember having seen a video of him reviewing LG V40 and complaining that LG removed HDMI over USB-C on LG V40 and G7 because there is too much delay between the phone and the TV screen with wireless display connection (here at 2:45 https://youtu.be/hFdHQ7f14nQ?t=165 ) and previous LG phones like V30 had this feature but now with Android 9 update it has been activated.
I wonder if they will add a custom desktop mode like on Samsung and Huawei smartphones or if they will use Google's desktop mode with Android 10 update
Usb c video out works, mirroring the screen with hdmi adapters is possible. My powered hub that worked with my S8 doesn't work with the G8, but my regular usb c to hdmi adapter does. I'm about to buy a powered hub that works with a Pixel in hopes the LG will as well.
The only thing I really miss about the S8 is Dex. Google or LG needs to get on this, especially considering the silly aspect ratio scaling the mirror mode has. Google play is the only video app that properly projects the image in 16:9. I wish the others would.
DrivenKeys said:
Usb c video out works, mirroring the screen with hdmi adapters is possible. My powered hub that worked with my S8 doesn't work with the G8, but my regular usb c to hdmi adapter does. I'm about to buy a powered hub that works with a Pixel in hopes the LG will as well.
The only thing I really miss about the S8 is Dex. Google or LG needs to get on this, especially considering the silly aspect ratio scaling the mirror mode has. Google play is the only video app that properly projects the image in 16:9. I wish the others would.
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I've heard that a desktop feature similar to Samsung Dex will be added from Android Q.
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I've heard that a desktop feature similar to Samsung Dex will be added from Android Q.
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That's great news! Now to figure out how long it will take Q to reach the G8. The G8 is part of the Project Treble beta, so I really hope LG has planned the update soon.
Update: With a little more testing, I found my 25 dollar adapter that worked with my S8 mostly works woth the G8. The trick is to plug in only the hdmi, wait fot the mirrored screen, then plug in the power, which must be more powerful than the included wall charger. I'm using a monitor, whose usb c delivers pd power.
Looking over most adapters, it seems they're made for pd charging, but I'm curious if any will work with a wall charger. The descriptions are very vague for this purpose.
Here's the one that I have:
USB C to HDMI 4K Adapter... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FMK94BQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It cost only 25 bux, and offers two usb 3.0 ports as well as usb c charging.
In case you're interested, here's the $54 Cheotech one that Juan Bagnell featured in his videos. It comes with ethernet and positive phone reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Multiple-Ethernet-Charging-Compatible/dp/B07673ZSD1
My G7 ThinQ (LM-G710EAW) still doesn't work with the USB-C to HDMI adapters that worked with the G5. It tries to connect but always reverts to USB Power Supply mode even if I tell it to always choose the media or photo sharing modes. I've been upgraded to Android 9 for a year now and was hoping it would kick in at some point. Any thoughts on what else might be missing?
DrivenKeys said:
Update: With a little more testing, I found my 25 dollar adapter that worked with my S8 mostly works woth the G8. The trick is to plug in only the hdmi, wait fot the mirrored screen, then plug in the power, which must be more powerful than the included wall charger. I'm using a monitor, whose usb c delivers pd power.
Looking over most adapters, it seems they're made for pd charging, but I'm curious if any will work with a wall charger. The descriptions are very vague for this purpose.
Here's the one that I have:
USB C to HDMI 4K Adapter... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FMK94BQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It cost only 25 bux, and offers two usb 3.0 ports as well as usb c charging.
In case you're interested, here's the $54 Cheotech one that Juan Bagnell featured in his videos. It comes with ethernet and positive phone reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Multiple-Ethernet-Charging-Compatible/dp/B07673ZSD1
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Hi, thank you for sharing your test of this adapter, I was searching for any solid information about connecting G8 to device like this, with no success. Now only one question left: did you try to connect any USB device to adapter, simultaneously to HDMI streaming and charging?

Hdmi screen mirroring via usb cable not working

Helped a friend buy this. We were watching movies via wireless screen sharing (miracast) and it was OK but kept stuttering and dropping WiFi.
So I suggested getting an hdmi usb-c cable with power charging (4k). I was very surprised when it didn't work! Tried everything including downloading dex to the phone.
Connected the same cable to my s8 plus and it worked beautifully (dex) !
So why not the Samsung a50? Never experienced this on any phone before and have been connecting to TV this way for 10 years.
Need a different /special cable? Or no go on this device and can only do via wireless?
Thx
I haven't ever used HDMI mirroring on a phone but as far as my knowledge of Type-C goes, you need USB 3.1 to support all the alternate modes including HDMI and DisplayPort. The A50 comes with USB 2.0, so there is no possibility of getting Display-Out from the USB port.
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I haven't ever used HDMI mirroring on a phone but as far as my knowledge of Type-C goes, you need USB 3.1 to support all the alternate modes including HDMI and DisplayPort. The A50 comes with USB 2.0, so there is no possibility of getting Display-Out from the USB port.
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thanks for that explanation, I'm guessing this the same reason we can't use type c 3.5mm jacks?
by that respect, pretty much any type c 3.1 can output through hdmi?
Thanks,
Scott
Type-C as a standard is a mess. I don't think you are required to support alternate modes in USB 3.1, so I suppose there are USB 3.1 Type-C devices that still don't output video.
Regarding audio, there is Audio Accessory Mode for Type-C and the concept of active and passive headphones/dongles, so not all dongles will work.
samsung A50 simply doesnt support dex. only s8 s9 s10 and Note 8 9 10.
getting usb c to hdmi wouldnt solve your problem.
there is how ever one possible solution, which is the universal android usb to hdmi cable. it uses ezcast app (same app for wireless). mirroring your phone but wont display netflix etc on your tv.
Samsung A20
So, I know that the A-series doesn't support DeX, but I was hopeful that it might still have the capability to project to a lapdock (like the HP Elite X3 or Nexdock 2) via USB-C and display even crudely (so, not the fully optimized DeX-ified desktop mode, but maybe just a mirror?), ideally allowing for keyboard/touchpad input as well. Basically I'm trying to come up with a solution for my mom whose company is phasing out the laptop she's accustomed to working on in favor of these lousy Samsung A20s, which she's gonna have a lot of trouble seeing and interfacing with on such a tiny screen and without a full keyboard (she's in her 60s). The lapdock thing is the only idea I've been able to come up with (though, it sucks that the A20s don't support DeX), but I'm open to any other suggestions if you think the lapdock route is a dead end. Thanks!
sutton0028 said:
samsung A50 simply doesnt support dex. only s8 s9 s10 and Note 8 9 10.
getting usb c to hdmi wouldnt solve your problem.
there is how ever one possible solution, which is the universal android usb to hdmi cable. it uses ezcast app (same app for wireless). mirroring your phone but wont display netflix etc on your tv.
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The A50 doesn't support MHL(display out protocol) at all for some reason, which is quite disappointing. At least wireless display casting works well.

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