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No Quick Charge 2.0 so most of the fast charger are useless!!

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
So what will we buy now?

kamajikaciya said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
So what will we buy now?
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Fast charging compatible accessories are on the way. I've Tweeted to both Anker and Aukey and they confirmed they're in the works.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.

I ordered an Anker 5V/2.4A charger to try. It'll be the one I leave at work, as long as it works at all. I'll report on it after my phone comes in Thursday.

Aukey 10000mah quick charge doesn't do anything but all my anker batteries are reporting "rapidly charging".
Aukey 54w 5 port also reports rapidly charging on all five ports including the qc one?
Edit the aukey does charge and reports rapidly charging too
So it seems everything i own is rapidly charging it? I'm more confused than anything else

Portable fast chargers?

Any compatible yet? My old samsungportable fast charger bank from my s8 doesn't work with my pixel 3...

I use the Tronsmart Trim, it's PD 3.0 and seems to do the job pretty well.

AWLaLa said:
I use the Tronsmart Trim, it's PD 3.0 and seems to do the job pretty well.
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Rapid charge works for you with it?

I will recommend anker power bank they last long....

tony1208 said:
Rapid charge works for you with it?
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Yes, I've no way of measuring exactly but the Pixel reports 'Charging rapidly' when plugged in to the portable charger.

Just got this yesterday from Amazon...was $25 bucks... Rapid charge works fine with the USB c to usb c PD charge.

all my usb-c pd chargers report slower charge speeds than the stock 25w brick.

Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.

cdig said:
Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.
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Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load

M2Iceman said:
Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load
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I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.

cdig said:
I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.
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Yes you are correct. A special USB-C cable with an embedded chipset (E) is required along with special PPS. At this early stage I'm not certain many (if any) third party vendors meet these requirements. The only safe bet is the Samsung- branded one.

CONFIRMED !
i have a aftermarket 45w home charger and aftermarket 45w power bank.
both WONT charge at 45W, it charging like 15W.
when i plug in the stock 25w charger, it charging faster.

I have an Anker duel charger that has 45W USB C and a USB A. The USB C is rated at 45W and the USB A is rated at 15W. The 25W charges faster than the 45W. (at least what I am seeing)
Good info about the special cable. If we need a special cable... Where do we find it?
I do have to say, it charges fast with the 25W one.
Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk

Ill check mines when the phone comes later today.
But i do remember reading that it used a different voltage/amp set.
Which if the charger doesnt support it. Then it would default to the lower one.
I.e.
If your charger is 5v 9v 12v 15v
But the phone needw 10v
It would default to the 9v.
Cant remember where i read this. But was a prerelease testing

The safe way to go is to use the samsung official chargers, that are precisely tuned for this, I would not risk a brand new somewhat expensive device

What is this telling me? phone says fast charging.
Using an Amazon Basics 60watt PD charger.

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yeah the phone claims it is rated for 10V at 4.5A and most 45W chargers use 15V at 3A, so likely to be nothing on the market fully capable of charging at super speed at the moment.
as for the USB cable it is a subset of USB 3.1 Gen 2, basically you need a cable with a chip in it, that chip allows you to break the 3A limit on standard cables. I've ordered this as I wanted a longer cable for my standard charger and should work with the 45W if I get it down the road. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073RY5JZ3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Now try this with the 25w charger in the box and you should notice shorter charge time remaining in the notification.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZGZUYL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S2PCVGB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
the cables i listed are what I use now. I have a 1TB 12.9 ipad pro and picked up these cables to use with its fast pd charging.
this charger:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TC53ZYD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is not PPS but it does have 9 Volt at 3amps. i tested it with one of my note 10s and the ipad from 10%. im using a 60W anker brick for the ipad:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BQJWDRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and the newer ravpower brick charged up much faster. again not pps (pdo) but it is fast in my less than scientific testing.

I'm just gonna use my $200 Samsung pre order credit to buy several oem or 45 watt chargers.
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Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !

Brotuck said:
Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !
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How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.

bp328i said:
How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.
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I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express

Brotuck said:
I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express
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You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.

bp328i said:
You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.
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No it really is the correct one..

Brotuck said:
No it really is the correct one..
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Different region that might be why.

25w third party charger

Hi,
what is the cheapest and best 25w third party charger for the SE 5G?
Any recommendations? Some links to amazon?
Kind regards
Oliver Benduhn

I got the Samsung 25W charger on Amazon for around $12. It came without Samsung packaging so I was sort of skeptical not to mention the price so my expectations were somewhat guarded. Came in generic packaging. Hooked it up and it works just like a legit Sammy charger. Sometimes you get lucky i guess.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VKXSD91

a possible alternative
https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0858Z18N1/ref=pe_3310721_185740151_TE_item_image
65W, there are 2 USB-c plugs and a USB-a plug, 30 euros. There is a USA version 2

I just got a ugreen 30w charger, works nice.

I have been using this one- works great. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081PRLC97/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought AUKEY 30W charger and AUKEY TYPE C to C cable but i didn't notice any difference in charging speed between my stock 15W and Aukey 30W.. How long does FE take from o to 100 with a 25W charger?

Megamind08 said:
I bought AUKEY 30W charger and AUKEY TYPE C to C cable but i didn't notice any difference in charging speed between my stock 15W and Aukey 30W.. How long does FE take from o to 100 with a 25W charger?
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When charging with a 30W charger the S20 FE should say "super fast charging" instead of the normal "fast charging". If it doesn't then there's something wrong with your adapter/cable.

Someguy14201 said:
When charging with a 30W charger the S20 FE should say "super fast charging" instead of the normal "fast charging". If it doesn't then there's something wrong with your adapter/cable. I would tell you to go to your city's tech centre but we all know what happened a few days ago (spoiler: burnt)
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I just checked and it says "Fast Charging". Does the stock Samsung cable support 25W?

Someguy14201 said:
When charging with a 30W charger the S20 FE should say "super fast charging" instead of the normal "fast charging". If it doesn't then there's something wrong with your adapter/cable. I would tell you to go to your city's tech centre but we all know what happened a few days ago (spoiler: burnt)
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No. 30w is not 25w. It must support the appropriate specs of the 25w pd that Samsung uses. It's the same reason you can't just plug it into a 85w macbook pro charger and expect super fast charging just because 85w is a bigger number than 25w.

longebane said:
No. 30w is not 25w. It must support the appropriate specs of the 25w pd that Samsung uses. It's the same reason you can't just plug it into a 85w macbook pro charger and expect super fast charging just because 85w is a bigger number than 25w.
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You can use a 30W charger on a device that supports a maximum of 25W, you can't do vice versa.
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Megamind08 said:
I just checked and it says "Fast Charging". Does the stock Samsung cable support 25W?
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The stock cable that comes with the phone supports 15W. Use an aftermarket cable that supports 25W or above.

Someguy14201 said:
When charging with a 30W charger the S20 FE should say "super fast charging" instead of the normal "fast charging". If it doesn't then there's something wrong with your adapter/cable.
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Someguy14201 said:
You can use a 30W charger on a device that supports a maximum of 25W, you can't do vice versa.
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The stock cable that comes with the phone supports 15W. Use an aftermarket cable that supports 25W or above.
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I'm not saying you can't charge it with a 30W. Just that 30w doesn't necessarily mean super fast charge is supported. Also "vice versa"... you sure can charge a 30w device with a 25w charger, since almost all modern devices have variable rate logic that allow a slower charge after they negotiate on a rate.

Someguy14201 said:
I just got a ugreen 30w charger, works nice.
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Can you please post a link or picture including the charger and cable?

Megamind08 said:
Can you please post a link or picture including the charger and cable?
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https://www.ugreen.com/products/65w-gan-usb-c-fast-charger
alternative link

I bought this on Amazon, it support QuickCharge 3.0 and it has two additionnal charging port (one with QuickCharge and two standards).

I've ordered the Xiaomi 55W wireless charger.
when I receive it I will give a review

xscreations said:
I've ordered the Xiaomi 55W wireless charger.
when I receive it I will give a review
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It doesn't work. I had it

sowed said:
It doesn't work. I had it
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What do you mean? It does not working at all?
It is not charging in 15W?

xscreations said:
What do you mean? It does not working at all?
It is not charging in 15W?
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It doesn't charge in 15w. It do very slow

I haven't attracted enough hate this week so allow me to throw in this thought to you all.
the higher the amperage a lithium battery is charged with, the faster that cell will "age"!
consider the inconvenience Samsung has bestowed upon you as a blessing. if you are careful and never run your battery flat, never leave it at fully charged for long periods or sitting on a charger overnight at full, you can lose fewer of the cycles that are your batteries lifespan. charging with less current helps with this too. heat is your batteries enemy and fast charging creates more of it.
you might say "why would phone manufacturers produce chargers that would damage batteries over time ?" it doesn't hurt them if you buy a new phone sooner because the battery is weak. they'd prefer that than you getting 4 years life from a phone.
if you're a tight fisted miser like me you'll want your shiny new toys to last as long as feasible... that is all.

3mel said:
I haven't attracted enough hate this week so allow me to throw in this thought to you all.
the higher the amperage a lithium battery is charged with, the faster that cell will "age"!
consider the inconvenience Samsung has bestowed upon you as a blessing. if you are careful and never run your battery flat, never leave it at fully charged for long periods or sitting on a charger overnight at full, you can lose fewer of the cycles that are your batteries lifespan. charging with less current helps with this too. heat is your batteries enemy and fast charging creates more of it.
you might say "why would phone manufacturers produce chargers that would damage batteries over time ?" it doesn't hurt them if you buy a new phone sooner because the battery is weak. they'd prefer that than you getting 4 years life from a phone.
if you're a tight fisted miser like me you'll want your shiny new toys to last as long as feasible... that is all.
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This is 100% exactly why the do it.
Fast charging is a nice marketing point to brag about to sell their device NOW, not for it to last months and years in the future.
This is the same reason why we don't have removable batteries anymore... Why would Samsung sell you a $30 replacement battery when they can sell you a $700+ replacement phone or even warranty repair for $120 at worst.

Accessories Compatible charger

Which chargers other than the original stock and the Spigen one will charge the Pixel 6 Pro at full 30w?
I see there are 30w from Anker and even Amazon Basic, would these charge at full speed?

You just need a PD 3.0 (or higher version) compatible charger that can do 30w or more. The rest matters not, it's an industrial standard.

cd993 said:
Which chargers other than the original stock and the Spigen one will charge the Pixel 6 Pro at full 30w?
I see there are 30w from Anker and even Amazon Basic, would these charge at full speed?
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Thanks for the clarification!

MAGIX Wall Charger PD Quick Charge 3.0 30W , USB Type-C, AC 100-240V to DC 5V 9V 12V 15V 20V (Qc 1.0 2.0 Compatible) (UK Plug)(White): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Shop MAGIX Wall Charger PD Quick Charge 3.0 30W , USB Type-C, AC 100-240V to DC 5V 9V 12V 15V 20V (Qc 1.0 2.0 Compatible) (UK Plug)(White). Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.
www.amazon.co.uk
Just bought this ready!

Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL

Part of me wants to be fancy and get the pixel stand 2nd gen, but in all honesty I don't think I'm that fussed about having all the exclusive features like gallery showing pictures etc so to be fair I may just get a standard wireless charger, but even then I'm not that fussed charging it wirelessly, I think I just like the concept of standing it up lol

galaxys said:
Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL
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Same here. I'll slap my new Pixel on there and see what happens.

galaxys said:
Guess I'll use my prior OnePlus Warp speed charger! LOL
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Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.

I bought an extra (already got one) original 45W charger. I know it's overkill and a rip off, but whatever. At least it will charge just about anything USB Type-C, right?

This is like $7 with their instant coupon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09655FJDB?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

xgerryx said:
Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.
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Don't know yet, but hopefully we can test it out soon...

30W and 50W WARP wireless charging is only for OnePlus phones. The OnePlus 30W wireless charger does max. Qi charge at 10W, and the OnePlus 50W wireless charger does max. Qi charge at 15W.
The Pixel phones are locked at max. Qi charge of 12W with any wireless charger other than Google's wireless charger.
That's no where near the 23W capability from Google wireless charger.
See here: https://9to5google.com/2021/10/19/pixel-6-tidbits-plastic-top-wireless-charging/
Edit: I think I misread someone's question...my post was only directed towards wireless charging.

I believe Samsung chargers use the PD standard and should deliver a fast charge.

Any PD charger of at least 30W will give you the max charge speed. I doubt there will be a big difference using the 18W Pixel chargers from older phones. I'll be using a 10W wireless charging pad I got on Amazon a couple years ago that is connected to an 18W Pixel charger. It will charge overnight so how long it takes doesn't matter. I use this charger for my Pixelbook. It has 2 PD ports and a usb-a port. It will work for the new Pixels and does super fast charging for the new Samsung phones. A phone will only draw as much power as it is rated for so the 65W rating won't hurt your phone. It would charge 2 Pixel 6's at the same time at 30W.

xgerryx said:
Will these chargers work at 30w on the Pixel? I have a ton of these at this point, including a car charger. Would be cool if they worked correctly at full speed.
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I can't confirm, but I'm 99% sure they will not charge at 30w. OnePlus does 5V at 6A to get 30W. This is not a PD standard. At best you'll get 5V3A so 15W.

Morgrain said:
You just need a PD 3.0 (or higher version) compatible charger that can do 30w or more. The rest matters not, it's an industrial standard.
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I have this charger https://zendure.com/products/superport-s3 it's a dual PD 65W charger and it still charges my Pixel6P at a ridiculously slow pace. Even with adaptive charging off. It's also a USB 3.0 charger that charges all my other devices very fast except for my P6P so there has to be something more to it IMHO.
EDIT: According to this article https://www.androidauthority.com/best-google-pixel-6-chargers-3041818/ There are 3 standards required USB 3.0, PD and PPS mine doesn't appear to have the latter so maybe that's why.

It can't be any PD 3.0. It has to support PPS protocol. Most charges that don't explicitly state that they support are not good (for P6/P6P 30W charging). For example this anker one is PD3.0 PPS one.

Z0ld3n said:
It can't be any PD 3.0. It has to support PPS protocol. Most charges that don't explicitly state that they support are not good (for P6/P6P 30W charging). For example this anker one is PD3.0 PPS one.
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This is the right answer.
Make sure it supports PPS.
I got a GaN one with PPS support up to 65W for 30€ on Amazon.

It's nice the pixel 6 tells you whether your connection is a fast or slow charge. I picked up a $16 PD PPS charger at AMZN and the P6P shows it is fast charging. The AMZN listing showed it as iphone 13 series compatible but no mention of the Pixel 6 line.

TiltedAz said:
It's nice the pixel 6 tells you whether your connection is a fast or slow charge. I picked up a $16 PD PPS charger at AMZN and the P6P shows it is fast charging. The AMZN listing showed it as iphone 13 series compatible but no mention of the Pixel 6 line.
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Because to some people only Apple exists and marketing material MUST mention Apple. All other OEMs are an afterthought.
Luckily, all other OEMs also aren't Apple, hence they tend to prefer standards over proprietary crap, so 99% of the time you can assume that accessories will work anyway.