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45W Compatible Charging Bricks?

I know the phone hasn't hit the streets yet, HOWEVER, does anyone know of any cheap 45W chargers that will be compatible with the Note 10+?? I know probably any 45W charger would do, but are any better than the others?
The is the one I was looking at...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071911MG5/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B071911MG5&pd_rd_w=MVY9A&pf_rd_p=8dbd62ec-d8d3-48e5-b85d-16f701719d81&pd_rd_wg=iEfBW&pf_rd_r=S5BV307RMXWYY7Y4JVYK&pd_rd_r=1b671bb1-6734-47bb-aa06-9d2159dac970

Saw this recommended on AP
https://www.amazon.com/Nekteck-Cert...y-MacBook/dp/B071Z959VX/?tag=androidpolice-20

I have one that i just got. But its a multi voltage one. Goes up to 15v.
I just dont know if it will do the super fast charging or jist fast charging.
I will find out when the phone comes

i need a 45w charging power bank.

Does 45W destroy the battery over time?

Personally, i'm looking for a charger with at least two and preferably three 45w+ Type-C PD ports, with a couple of 18w USB-A ports as well.
Anker have the Atom PD4, but it seems to be as rare as rocking horse poop at the moment.

I have the Huawei MateBook X Pro laptop and it has a 65w intelligent charger.
It fast charges my S10+ perfectly so I'm going to try it once I get my Note 10+ before buying a new one.

stakan said:
Does 45W destroy the battery over time?
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no.

Before I switched back to the iPhone, this is what I loved about my Note 9, being able to use my 87w Apple MacBook Pro charger to charge my Note.
Is the Samsung official 45w charger that will be coming out soon special in some way to trigger this fast charging mode? Or do any 45w or higher chargers work?
Also, does anybody know if the Note 10+ supports the smart charging logic that Apple has in iOS 13, where it doesn't top off the phone every time (to prolong overall battery health)?

I have a 40W charger from my old huawei mate20 pro however it outputs 10V 4A max which isn't a standard thing. Will the note10+ utilize that kind of rating or will I be stuck with the charger's lower rating which is 18W (9V, 2A).
Edit: Guess no one would actually be able to answer this right now, I'll just have to try it myself when the phone arrives.
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As soon as I get my phone I'll try the power adaptater from my dual wireless charger. This is a 45w brick....

Update on the 45w power brick..
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/

The original charger can charge faster than the 45W charger with the right cable?

I have information regarding the Note 10+'s 45W charging ability. I just completed my own charging speed comparison. I depleted two Note 10+'s and am charging them from 0 with the phones powered off. One is on the 45W charger and the cable it comes with. The other is on the original Note 10+ charger, BUT is using an aftermarket USB 3.1 Gen 2 C to C cable. The results are VERY surprising!
At around 7 minutes, the 45W charger jumped out ahead at about 23% while the original charger was around 15%. Somewhere between that 7 minute timeframe and 15 minutes though, the original charger caught up. At 15 minutes both phones were at 36%.
Here's where it gets interesting though. At 30 minutes, the original charger actually pulled ahead of the 45W charger! The 45W was at 65%, while the original charger was at 69%.
At 45 minutes, the 45W charger closed the gap ever so slightly, with it being at 83% while the original charger was at 86%.
At 60 minutes, the gap closed a bit more. The 45W charger turned in a charging percentage of 95% , while the original charger had a percentage of 96%
At 67 minutes, the original charger reached 100%, while the 45W charger was a little behind at 97%. The 45W charger would then finally reach 100% 2 minutes later ( a total of 69 minutes).
In summary, I found that with a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable, the original Note 10+ charger is capable of the same charging speeds (actually slightly faster) as the 45W charger.

Cool test, you have a link to the specific cable you used??

Sounds more like a faulty battery for me

Interesting! Would you have a link to the type of cable?

Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?

And could you repeat the test but swap the carger for the device (the one with orig charger gets 45w), just to make sure it isn't a phone "problem"

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Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
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That's actually what I intend to do when I finish depleting the battery. I'm hypothesizing that the charge time will likely not be any different than with the cable the 45W comes with, as I'm guessing that cable is likely a USB 3.1 gen 2 cable. I'm guessing the cable that comes with the original charger is probably a gen 1 cable (just a theory).

blake .l said:
Cool test, you have a link to the specific cable you used??
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WDawn said:
Interesting! Would you have a link to the type of cable?
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I used these cables.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F3HVYTJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Dolgogi said:
Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
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I just completed it with the other cable in the 45W charger, and the results were almost the same (it reached 100% at 64 minutes) as they were with the cable that comes with it (pictures attached). Looks like the charger that comes with the Note 10+ is capable of more than we gave it credit for. We just have to make sure we're using a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable with it.

I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?

Dolgogi said:
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
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It's not a stupid question lol. But yes, I have it enabled. Most of the other 45W tests I've seen have had results comparable to my 45W test. There seems to be a pronounced slow down towards the end. I don't know why Floss' test came out the way it did, but I can't replicate that on my two devices, and I haven't seen 50 minutes elsewhere either.

I didn't see any significant improvement with the gen 2 cable . it's taking same charging time as stock cable which came with the box.

The generation version only increase the bandwidth capability of the cable and should not have anything to do with charging.
If I'm not wrong, there should be something with the stock 45W cable to enable faster charge since it must goes beyond official USB-C specs.
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The other thing to take in consideration with newly discovery made here is that the official battery capacity can be between 4170 and 4300 mAh.

ran816 said:
I didn't see any significant improvement with the gen 2 cable . it's taking same charging time as stock cable which came with the box.
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The cable also has to be 5A and yours might not be. And use the cable that came with each charger (or 5A).
It's harder to find longer cables that meet all the specs but I bought several of these and they've been terrific...
USB C to USB C Cable 5A Fast Charging, CableCreation 10ft USB C to C Cable,Support 100W Power Delivery (PD), Compatible with MacBook(Pro) 15-inch, Google Pixel 3XL, Samsung Note 8 & More,3M/Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZWUNCH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DtpWDbMVWMT3Z
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Are you doing this with the the device off? Try leaving the devices on and see what happens. I know between 1-80% it goes a lot faster with the 45W charger over the 25W charger. The ET I don't bother following them because it's an estimate not a constant.

Dolgogi said:
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
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Flossy results are about the same as mine. Right under an hour from 0-100% and roughly 50 mins from like 10-15% to full. I am happy with that. Using a 10 ft cable as well not the factory Samsung charger

Man your chargers are both charging at 25W, 45W charging should last from 0% to 100% about 60 minutes, many finish in 58/59 minutes

Where to buy an extra OEM charger

I am looking to purchase an extra 18W charger, North American variant.
Is it available for purchase anywhere?
The only 18W charger I could find on Asus' store mentions being a notebook charger.
But it appears to be identical.
Having used OnePlus phones, I do miss how easy it was to purchase accessories on their website...
Thanks

Any QC3/QC4 charger will be ok.

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Any QC3/QC4 charger will be ok.
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Whats. The difference in quick charge 3 and 4 as far as speeds? The 5z had a 18w qc3 charger and the Zenfone 6 has a 18w qc4 charger..would the qc3 charge slower ?
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sedp23 said:
Whats. The difference in quick charge 3 and 4 as far as speeds? The 5z had a 18w qc3 charger and the Zenfone 6 has a 18w qc4 charger..would the qc3 charge slower ?
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I guess the original charger will be faster. Can you try and compare it?

I compared the two.
Note, that, presumably, because the OEM charger does not go up the maximum 20V of QC4 (only 9V) it is not actually a certified QC4 charger, despite using the standard.
Also, the power rating for QC4 isn't actually higher than QC3, it merely has finer voltage control, allowing for better efficiency.
Sidenote, funnily enough, my QC3 charger is two thirds the size of the ASUS downgraded QC4 charger...
I used ampere to measure current at 50% charge.
That said, I used a QC3 charger from my previous Mi Max 2, it definitely got picked up by the Zenfone 6, showing the two plusses in the battery icon. It reached a max current of 2.5A
The OEM charger reached a stable 3A.
A difference is certainly there, but my guess is it won't actually be THAT significant in the real world. Personally I always use two chargers, the OEM for fast topping up, when needed. And another really "crappy" (0.8A smartwatch charger) for overnight charging so that the majority of the charging I do stresses the battery as little as possible. No matter what Qualcomm likes to tell you, fast charging definitely shortens the lifespan of a battery, so while convenient, it's good to do it as little as possible.
If you REALLY want the fastest possible results, try and find a QC4 charger. Only a few actually exist to buy right now.
Otherwise you can get a QC3 charger, there are TONS of those, and you can actually get the pretty cheap too. You'll only lose 0.5A anyway.
You could probably also use a USB PD 3.0 charger, as QC4 is able to negotiate voltages with it as if it were a fully supported QC charger.
Edit. Tried charging with both from 55% to 71% (It just happened to be where I was at with one charger, then used a battery drainer to do the exact same charge).
The QC3 charger was one minute slower at 16 minutes, while the OEM did it in 15 minutes.

Samsung 45w charger

Can the 45w Samsung charger ep-ta845 be used for the s21 ultra with absolutely no difference at all compared to the 25w charger ep-ta800? I'm thinking about charging speed, heat, wear etc. It says on the 45w charger that it is compatible with super fast charging Gen 1 (25w) but it also has slightly different pps volt/amp ranges that aren't 100% aligned with those of the 25w charger.
Any knowledge on this here that goes beyond "it says that it works"? I know it will work, but will it be 100% equal to a 25w charger?

You can use it without any problems, but it will charge with a maximum power of 25W

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You can use it without any problems, but it will charge with a maximum power of 25W
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Good to know. I was a bit concerned about the ranges being different but I guess they have it figured out.

Edit:wrong topic
reposted my comment in 3rd party chargers

I got two of these brand new yesterday from my pre-order and they worked yesterday but don't work today. Both phone, different cables, different outlets, different phones and still won't even charge at all. Pretty pissed off that BOTH went out already. Maybe 5 hrs of use.

Question Warp Charge 30 not working?

Has anyone got warp charge 30 / 30w charging to work on their 9 pro? When I look at the charge speed using #8008 and logging the charge current with the screen off I never get over 1.2A or 1200ma. That is with the car charger and wall charger from one plus. My 65w charger will charge over 6A fine with the screen off. I tested the 30w chargers on my oneplus 7 pro and they work fine. I also noticed if I use a charger designed for PD my phone will charge at 2.0A / 2000ma. I find it strange the phone won't work in backwards compatibility. I actually get faster charging from my oneplus 5t charger that was only rated at 3.5A.
If anyone has a solution please let me know.

Because warp charge 30 can only negotiate up to the max of 5v. The warp charge 65 is 10 volts. The 9 pro phone uses a split cell battery which effectively splits and halves the incoming voltage and amperage for each cell so 10 volts become 5 volts each which would explain the much less than ideal charging speed.
Coincidentally USB-PD also can negotiate higher output voltage (I believe 9 volts) hence the compatibility to work with them.

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Dashwood Foxe said:
Because warp charge 30 can only negotiate up to the max of 5v. The warp charge 65 is 10 volts. The 9 pro phone uses a split cell battery which effectively splits and halves the incoming voltage and amperage for each cell so 10 volts become 5 volts each which would explain the much less than ideal charging speed.
Coincidentally USB-PD also can negotiate higher output voltage (I believe 9 volts) hence the compatibility to work with them.
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I had considered the the 5v vs 10v but I thought one plus had mentioned the phone was fully backwards compatible. I really need to find a car charger that can charge the phone fast. I thought about buying the 50w OPPO charger but I cannot find one from any reputable place or even oppos site for sale. Right now I use my inverter in my work truck. If I could actually charger at 30w that would be fine for my needs but when using hotspot or GPS the phone doesn't even charge much at all when it only draws 1.2A. It takes multiple hours to charge 50% at that speed.

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I had considered the the 5v vs 10v but I thought one plus had mentioned the phone was fully backwards compatible. I really need to find a car charger that can charge the phone fast. I thought about buying the 50w OPPO charger but I cannot find one from any reputable place or even oppos site for sale. Right now I use my inverter in my work truck. If I could actually charger at 30w that would be fine for my needs but when using hotspot or GPS the phone doesn't even charge much at all when it only draws 1.2A. It takes multiple hours to charge 50% at that speed.
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Never on the specs on the official product page for the warp 30 charger states it works with the 9 pro. Just settle on any 45+ watt usb-pd adapter and it'll get pretty close to warp 30 charger's max speed which would get you topped off in roughly an hour or more. Save yourself the headache and be grateful that's even an option as past OnePlus phones would only cap at 5 watts on any non OnePlus fastchargers.
PS, I wouldn't trust any marketing fluff coming from OnePlus as of late, they've been clickbaity and false hype inducing with bold but cleverly misworded claims since the inception of the 8 series and has been going downhill from there. My 9 pro is likely going to be my last OnePlus and likely last forray with android phones as a whole.

On the other hand..., wireless warp charger 30w from OnePlus 8 Pro works fine on my OnePlus 9 Pro.
I use it untill i got my 50w warp charger.