Where can I find the truth about LTE-bands and G8 models? - LG G8 Questions & Answers

Hi,
I have problems finding "facts" about the G8 and the LTE bands different models support.
On some pages, like
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lg-g8-...lm-g820um-g820n-g820ua-g820v-g820tm-and-more/
they claim that if you go for the G820QM or G820QM7 you will have maximum coverage.
But either I'm doing things wrong , or , the truth is more complicated.
The bands I really NEED in Sweden are 3,7,8 & 20 , but since I travel a bit I would like as many bands as possible open.
My phone was from the beginning an AT&T bloatware LMG820UM (A9), but now I think it's more like a LMG820QM (A12).
(And unfortunately Band 8 doesn't work. )
Does anyone have a good link to a page that tells the truth or a good way to open up bands ?
Thanks!

Lakritssmurfen said:
Hi,
I have problems finding "facts" about the G8 and the LTE bands different models support.
On some pages, like
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lg-g8-...lm-g820um-g820n-g820ua-g820v-g820tm-and-more/
they claim that if you go for the G820QM or G820QM7 you will have maximum coverage.
But either I'm doing things wrong , or , the truth is more complicated.
The bands I really NEED in Sweden are 3,7,8 & 20 , but since I travel a bit I would like as many bands as possible open.
My phone was from the beginning an AT&T bloatware LMG820UM (A9), but now I think it's more like a LMG820QM (A12).
(And unfortunately Band 8 doesn't work. )
Does anyone have a good link to a page that tells the truth or a good way to open up bands ?
Thanks!
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Probably the most trust worthy I've seen would be GsmAreana. If you follow this link it's for the G8, and it indicates the us Open version supports band 8.
'Open up bands'? Doesn't exist, to my knowledge. Some think the 'hidden system menu' has an option to 'select bands', but in my experience all that menu does is allow you to 'test' for certain bands, to see if they connect. It doesn't 'make it available', as some wish. For the most part, if it's not listed as being a band the rom supports, it's probably not going to connect to it.
LG G8 ThinQ - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com

Now I have tried a few different "QM" versions on my phone (that once was an AT&T with "UM").
Right now I flashed it "T-mobile" with a pink start up-screen.
None of those crossflashed firmwares seem to make my phone to connect to LTE band 8.
(My old G7 connects to band8 very often, with good signal).
I'm starting to think that crossflashing doesn't change the frequency bands at all..
If I go in to the service menu, and ONLY pick band 8, it will connect and use only that.
If I select 3,7,8 & 20 it will never connect to 8.
I'm a bit lost with this.. I wonder if my phone still, deep inside, believes it is an UM and shouldn't use band 8.
Maybe time to Ebay it..

Lakritssmurfen said:
Now I have tried a few different "QM" versions on my phone (that once was an AT&T with "UM").
Right now I flashed it "T-mobile" with a pink start up-screen.
None of those crossflashed firmwares seem to make my phone to connect to LTE band 8.
(My old G7 connects to band8 very often, with good signal).
I'm starting to think that crossflashing doesn't change the frequency bands at all..
If I go in to the service menu, and ONLY pick band 8, it will connect and use only that.
If I select 3,7,8 & 20 it will never connect to 8.
I'm a bit lost with this.. I wonder if my phone still, deep inside, believes it is an UM and shouldn't use band 8.
Maybe time to Ebay it..
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So it does connect to 8? As you say. Well that means the other bands have a stronger signal, and that's why they are being chosen and not 8. Your other phone that gets 8 well, does it have the ability to connect to the other bands on other phone? Maybe that's why that one always chooses 8?
And yes, I guarantee you, a different rom will have different bands enabled. Just the way it is.

AsItLies said:
So it does connect to 8? As you say. Well that means the other bands have a stronger signal, and that's why they are being chosen and not 8. Your other phone that gets 8 well, does it have the ability to connect to the other bands on other phone? Maybe that's why that one always chooses 8?
And yes, I guarantee you, a different rom will have different bands enabled. Just the way it is.
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Thanks for your reply.
Yes, my other phone, the LG G7, connects to all bands needed (3,7,8,20) when I travel to work without any problems.
I'll give the G8 some more tries.. but we don't understand each other

Lakritssmurfen said:
Thanks for your reply.
Yes, my other phone, the LG G7, connects to all bands needed (3,7,8,20) when I travel to work without any problems.
I'll give the G8 some more tries.. but we don't understand each other
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You can pull the carrier policy with QPST,and it will show you bands that are supported for the particular firmware you're using and find out.

Surgemanxx said:
You can pull the carrier policy with QPST,and it will show you bands that are supported for the particular firmware you're using and find out.
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Thank you for that suggestion! I didn't know, but now I will try to read out that "carrier policy" next time I have some "play"- time .
(Sorry about the very slow reply, I was on a vacation)
Thanks!

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[Q] G3 D858 dual SIM root - unlocking other LTE/4G bands?

Hi guys,
I've posted in the AUS thread over in the main board, but it doesn't seem to be getting much attention:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/lg-g3-australia-thread-au-t2841345/page45
It's been reported and tested among several android devices that phones using the QUALCOMM chipset can now have various 4G/LTE bands UNLOCKED following a relatively easy - but fairly tedious process. as the G3 (and specifically, the dual SIM D858) sports the MSM8975AC Snapdragon 801 chipset...I ask the question:
Has anyone successfully unlocked 1 or more LTE/4G bands? I'd buy this phone if it were possible for root, then a successful unlock of all popular 4G bands here in Australia, specifically B28 (FDD) 700Mhz. Anyone who has tried, failed, succeeded or can provide additional details, please respond!
Thanks
Anyone?
Might be worth closing this, as G3 owners apparently don't visit here anymore.
*LOCK*
I got my D858HK in the US and am here until August. I'll be primarily using in India and China. I tried one of the procedures using QPST and QXDM to write all the 4G/LTE bands to memory, thereby "unlocking" them. Didn't seem to work on AT&T's (US) network. I'm only getting 3G. It's possible I didn't do something correctly, however...
I also tried going into the hidden menu, but while I am able to select/deselect the check marks for the different bands, there is no way to save the selections. At least no way that I can find. I would expect that I should be able to get 4G (even if not LTE) if the unlocking was successful.
Not that this helps you much, but I am also interested in a way, if possible. I'll probably give it another shot later this week or next week. I'll come back and post if I have any success.
flueterflam said:
I got my D858HK in the US and am here until August. I'll be primarily using in India and China. I tried one of the procedures using QPST and QXDM to write all the 4G/LTE bands to memory, thereby "unlocking" them. Didn't seem to work on AT&T's (US) network. I'm only getting 3G. It's possible I didn't do something correctly, however...
I also tried going into the hidden menu, but while I am able to select/deselect the check marks for the different bands, there is no way to save the selections. At least no way that I can find. I would expect that I should be able to get 4G (even if not LTE) if the unlocking was successful.
Not that this helps you much, but I am also interested in a way, if possible. I'll probably give it another shot later this week or next week. I'll come back and post if I have any success.
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I bought the G4 dual SIM...I've posted in busier threads there in the general forum where others will actually respond. Hopefully we can get this soon...just need an unlocked bootloader on G4...
RoOSTA
Sounds like you tried this thread. Thank goodness someone did, because I couldn't even download QPST, but I'm trying to get on T-mobile. Like you, I entered the secret menu with 3845#*858# What I find odd is that the LTE band selection indicates 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,17,20,40 But frequencycheck.com shows that these phones actually do 1,3,7,38,39,40,41. Those latter bands are crucial for China, so even if this setting were to work, it may well break China support.
flueterflam said:
I got my D858HK in the US and am here until August. I'll be primarily using in India and China. I tried one of the procedures using QPST and QXDM to write all the 4G/LTE bands to memory, thereby "unlocking" them. Didn't seem to work on AT&T's (US) network. I'm only getting 3G. It's possible I didn't do something correctly, however...
I also tried going into the hidden menu, but while I am able to select/deselect the check marks for the different bands, there is no way to save the selections. At least no way that I can find. I would expect that I should be able to get 4G (even if not LTE) if the unlocking was successful.
Not that this helps you much, but I am also interested in a way, if possible. I'll probably give it another shot later this week or next week. I'll come back and post if I have any success.
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successful in unlocking WCDMA/LTE bands in LG G3 D858HK
i was able to unlock the additional WCDMA and LTE bands in my LG G3 D858HK varient using QPST and QXDM.
The unlocking of WCDMA bands was done using QPST and the unlocking of LTE bands was done using QXDM.
Another important thing to note is that i was using MOKEE ROM 7.1.2 while doing the band unlocking.
NV MANAGER couldn't read from phone when i tried with the stock rom.

Unlocked US HTC 10 won't connect to 3G Band 900

Hi everyone. I recently purchased a HTC 10 from swappa, the unlocked version. The thing is, on gsmarena and HTC US page says that this model works on 850/900Mhz bands for UMTS (H/H+), but here in DR, i'm trying to use it with Orange Dominicana, who works on 900Mhz band for UMTS and the phone doesnt... It goes from LTE to 2G, and when on LTE i cant receive phone calls. I need to put it on 2G to receive calls, but the data sucks at those speeds.
Anyone knows a way that i can be sure if the phone really doesn't have this particular band (900Mhz) for UMTS? or a way to see if i can activate it if its available but inactive? I try 2 phones (a friend of mine bought one, same model) and is the exact same behavior on both.
See my signature about adding bands.
At least you can check if it is enabled and perhaps try to add it too
kakaroto said:
Hi everyone. I recently purchased a HTC 10 from swappa, the unlocked version. The thing is, on gsmarena and HTC US page says that this model works on 850/900Mhz bands for UMTS (H/H+), but here in DR, i'm trying to use it with Orange Dominicana, who works on 900Mhz band for UMTS and the phone doesnt... It goes from LTE to 2G, and when on LTE i cant receive phone calls. I need to put it on 2G to receive calls, but the data sucks at those speeds.
Anyone knows a way that i can be sure if the phone really doesn't have this particular band (900Mhz) for UMTS? or a way to see if i can activate it if its available but inactive? I try 2 phones (a friend of mine bought one, same model) and is the exact same behavior on both.
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This is happening to me too! Exactly the same problem, were you able to solve this @kakaroto?
c_sar007 said:
This is happening to me too! Exactly the same problem, were you able to solve this @kakaroto?
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Also interested
Have you tried anithing?
NickKG81 said:
Also interested
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Have you tried anithing? I would like to have some ideas before doing anithing stupid.
c_sar007 said:
Have you tried anithing? I would like to have some ideas before doing anithing stupid.
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I haven't tried adding bands yet. I'm interested since Viva is rolling out 4G service in the next few months. If my HTC 10 isn't compatible with their 4G or 3G (even though they said it will be), then I'll be looking at adding more bands.
stifilz said:
See my signature about adding bands.
At least you can check if it is enabled and perhaps try to add it too
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Thanks for the sugestion. I did not follow your method since CDMA Tools is no longrer available in DEMO version and licences are really expensive (100+ Dollars) to just test. I followed the method suggested by @fffft (That can be found here) since it applyes to all Qualcomm devices using QPST and QXMD.
Long story short, I had to Root, set a custom recovery, a custom ROM and even a custom Kernel to try the method but It did not work to me. The irony of all of this is that technically I my HTC 10 has all bands available to be used. See the picture Attached.
@stifilz do you have any Ideas?
stifilz said:
See my signature about adding bands.
At least you can check if it is enabled and perhaps try to add it too
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Thanks for the sugestion. I did not follow your method since CDMA Tools is no longrer available in DEMO version and licences are really expensive (100+ dollars) to just test. I followed the method suggested by @fffft (That can be found here) since it applyes to all Qualcomm devices using QPST and QXMD.
Long story short, I had to Root, set a custom recovery, a custom ROM and even a custom Kernel to try the method but It did not work to me. The irony of all of this is that technically I my HTC 10 has all bands available to be used. See the picture Attached.
@stifilz do you have any Ideas?

OnePlus 3 - Sprint 3G and Service Bands

Hello, I have a OnePlus 3 and have Sprint. Not realizing the device only supports GSM out of the box i found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
Here one person was able to enable band 20 on a OnePlus One. I was wondering if it is at all possible to enable bands 10 or 1 for Sprint 3G. Or better yet bands 25, 26, 41.
I was also wondering, if I were to attempt this is there a risk of ruining the phone?
I recall band 20 was unable to be activated on the OPO as the device simply was not provisioned with a radio for that band.
Modding will not overcome hardware deficiencies.
Is Sprint a CDMA carrier? OnePlus do not support CDMA at all as the US is the only significant country using that outdated technology.
r25txe said:
I recall band 20 was unable to be activated on the OPO as the device simply was not provisioned with a radio for that band.
Modding will not overcome hardware deficiencies.
Is Sprint a CDMA carrier? OnePlus do not support CDMA at all as the US is the only significant country using that outdated technology.
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would there be any way to enable wcdma 3g through sprint or should I sell the phone.
lpcar04 said:
would there be any way to enable wcdma 3g through sprint or should I sell the phone.
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I do not think so.
First, I am assuming you have the international OPO. Go to willmyphonework.net and see for yourself; your phone is totally incompatible with Sprint. Even 2G bands are not available under its standard configuration.
At this stage you have two choices, return the phone for exchange/sell it or try and edit the hardware settings to make more bands available.
If you bought it new I would just return it rather than modifying the hardware setup.
If you want to tinker with it, you need to start here and also here and see will they unlock the bands you need.
Basically, follow the guides exactly and tick every radio band that appears in the programme and hopefully the bands for Sprint is among those available for your hardware.
I think I tried to activate band 20 4G and it did not seem to work. I have the international OPO.
The OP in the first link is a Chinese model, but the steps are the same.
To quote from the 2nd link I posted:
It will theoretically unlock:
GSM: DCS-1800/P-GSM/E-GSM/GSM-850/Railways-900/PCS-1900
WCDMA: Band I to XI
LTE: Band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 19, 20, 21
PS: Even if they're theoretically enabled, some band cannot be used because of hardware limitation...
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Even though all the above seem to be available to activate, some work, and some do not. [band 20 has a strikethrough, for example]
r25txe said:
I do not think so.
First, I am assuming you have the international OPO. Go to willmyphonework.net and see for yourself; your phone is totally incompatible with Sprint. Even 2G bands are not available under its standard configuration.
At this stage you have two choices, return the phone for exchange/sell it or try and edit the hardware settings to make more bands available.
If you bought it new I would just return it rather than modifying the hardware setup.
If you want to tinker with it, you need to start here and also here and see will they unlock the bands you need.
Basically, follow the guides exactly and tick every radio band that appears in the programme and hopefully the bands for Sprint is among those available for your hardware.
I think I tried to activate band 20 4G and it did not seem to work. I have the international OPO.
The OP in the first link is a Chinese model, but the steps are the same.
To quote from the 2nd link I posted:
Even though all the above seem to be available to activate, some work, and some do not. [band 20 has a strikethrough, for example]
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I believe you need the right. Qcn from the model phone with the supported bands you want for this guide. With respect to the oneplus 3.

Question AT&T and International/EU 9 Pro

So, I have been watching the 9 Pro as my next phone (upgrading from HTC U12+), but am really disappointed in a couple of things: (1) it appears there is no plan to certify the US version for AT&T 5G, and (2) no Astral Black for the US.
Since the 5G aspect is unlikely to change anytime soon, and AT&T 5G isn't really all that great anyway from what I hear, is there any downside to buying an EU Astral Black model and using it in the US? I'm still researching all the bands, but it appears the EU model is only missing two LTE bands in use by AT&T (Bands 29 and 30). To be fair, the US version is also missing Band 29 for the 700MHz spectrum, but does contain support for Band 30 at 2300MHz.
I'm going to log which bands are being used where I live and work but, if I will be limited to 4G/LTE anyway, I'm not seeing a downside to buying the EU version. Am I overlooking something? Any thoughts, suggestions, or input is greatly appreciated.
EU has additional options that neither the TMO or US int models have. At&t is behind on 5g deployments anyway so you shouldn't miss out on much, Verizon and TMO would've been better for that. As far as general reqs go, I don't see why not.
mawoods75 said:
So, I have been watching the 9 Pro as my next phone (upgrading from HTC U12+), but am really disappointed in a couple of things: (1) it appears there is no plan to certify the US version for AT&T 5G, and (2) no Astral Black for the US.
Since the 5G aspect is unlikely to change anytime soon, and AT&T 5G isn't really all that great anyway from what I hear, is there any downside to buying an EU Astral Black model and using it in the US? I'm still researching all the bands, but it appears the EU model is only missing two LTE bands in use by AT&T (Bands 29 and 30). To be fair, the US version is also missing Band 29 for the 700MHz spectrum, but does contain support for Band 30 at 2300MHz.
I'm going to log which bands are being used where I live and work but, if I will be limited to 4G/LTE anyway, I'm not seeing a downside to buying the EU version. Am I overlooking something? Any thoughts, suggestions, or input is greatly appreciated.
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As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
toolhas4degrees said:
As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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I believe that is true - I just want to make sure I'm not inadvertently limiting myself with 4G/LTE coverage by buying the EU version. I don't really care around home/work, as there is usually wifi available. My bigger concern would be coverage in my home area that might get dropped now due to the EU version missing a band that is available on the US version. Or, perhaps when traveling if the EU version is missing bands that other networks (roaming) may use.
mawoods75 said:
I believe that is true - I just want to make sure I'm not inadvertently limiting myself with 4G/LTE coverage by buying the EU version. I don't really care around home/work, as there is usually wifi available. My bigger concern would be coverage in my home area that might get dropped now due to the EU version missing a band that is available on the US version. Or, perhaps when traveling if the EU version is missing bands that other networks (roaming) may use.
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I have dual sims, straight talk att sim and t mobile sim. Att sim works fine no drop but no 5g, simple mobile -TMobile 5g,4g, I have the Chinese varient with eu firmware
toolhas4degrees said:
As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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You are correct. I call ATT about once a week asking if they're going to certify/whitelist OnePlus devices. I figure the more complaints they get, the more they'll be inclined to investigate it.
To add to this, most people I speak to have never even heard of OnePlus, which makes the conversation troublesome. Be completely prepared for ATT employees to feed you bad information, say your device isn't compatible (does not have the required hardware), is inferior to Samsung/Motorola/iPhone, and try to sell you a new phone or sent you a new SIM card.
I've posted before about calling ATT. I feel everyone who has their service should call on a regular basis. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
phr0zen said:
You are correct. I call ATT about once a week asking if they're going to certify/whitelist OnePlus devices. I figure the more complaints they get, the more they'll be inclined to investigate it.
To add to this, most people I speak to have never even heard of OnePlus, which makes the conversation troublesome. Be completely prepared for ATT employees to feed you bad information, say your device isn't compatible (does not have the required hardware), is inferior to Samsung/Motorola/iPhone, and try to sell you a new phone or sent you a new SIM card.
I've posted before about calling ATT. I feel everyone who has their service should call on a regular basis. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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And the strange part is they have the 9 and 9 Pro listed on their list of devices that will still work on their network (VoLTE) after they shutdown their 3G service next year. Gives me hope they will certify at some point.
I run this phone on AT&T, and while I don't get 5G speeds, I get very fast LTE+ speeds of around 200mbps.
Thanks all for the input. After some more thought, I believe I have decided on the pine green US version. It's going to be in a case anyway, and I've had very few cases that aren't black. So, if it will be black anyway due to the case, I might as well get the US version. Plus, I think the black case and green camera bump will look sharp.
Reviving an old thread, rather starting anew:
I want to get the 9 pro for T-mobile use in US. I need dual sims and want custom roms...
I saw that "toolhas4degrees" said they had a Chinese model with EU firmware. I don't know if he changed the firmware himself or what... A bit out of my capabilities.
Simply put: What would I need to do (if anything) to get the EU (LE2123) OnePlus 9 Pro to work with T-mobile?
Thanks!

Question Verizon 5g question (13 Ultra, sorry!)

Was wondering if anyone had any ideas on why I'm not seeing 5g with a global edition 13 Ultra on Verizon in the US? I know it's missing some of the bands and I'm fine with that experience, but checking cellmapper.net suggests the areas I've been should still have some 5g availability on compatible bands. I've checked that it's set to 5g preferred, SIM was in a iPhone 13 Pro and Zenfone 9 previously, both of which were getting 5g in these areas, and I've checked that it's set correctly for preferred network type under *#*#4636*# from the dialer.
APN settings are mostly greyed out from editing, I can pretty much only add a name to one for what's allowed. VZWINTERNET entry looks fine though, and everything else such as mms/sms/calls/LTE data area all fine.
Phone is unrooted and I'm trying to avoid tinkering too much, but can unlock BL if it's absolutely necessary. I've got a US Mobile (Verizon MVNO) sim that also is only showing LTE for data if I pop that in.
Not the end of the world as I often switch over to LTE instead as it's often more reliable for me, but curious if it's still something I can get working.
Which model(my phone/detailed info../model)and which rom(example:V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM)?
NOSS8 said:
Which model(my phone/detailed info../model)and which rom(example:V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM)?
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Model 2304FPN6DG, rom V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM
wafflenator said:
Model 2304FPN6DG, rom V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM
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You should have 5g with N77/78/5 bands, seems strange that the apn stays greyed out, maybe see with your carrier.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-13-ultra
NOSS8 said:
You should have 5g with N77/78/5 bands, seems strange that the apn stays greyed out, maybe see with your carrier.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-13-ultra
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Yeah that's what I was expecting for supported bands. Calling the carrier went about as well as I expected, "your Xiaomi device isn't compatible with the Verizon network, especially since it's missing Band 13. Do you have another device you can activate instead?". Looking around on Google, seems like carriers might be able to lock APN settings on a SIM, so that might be what's happening there, but not sure. Thanks for taking a look at it with me.
But B13 concerns 4g, anyway bands N77/78 have a low range and are mainly used in town.

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