Question Verizon 5g question (13 Ultra, sorry!) - Xiaomi 13 Pro

Was wondering if anyone had any ideas on why I'm not seeing 5g with a global edition 13 Ultra on Verizon in the US? I know it's missing some of the bands and I'm fine with that experience, but checking cellmapper.net suggests the areas I've been should still have some 5g availability on compatible bands. I've checked that it's set to 5g preferred, SIM was in a iPhone 13 Pro and Zenfone 9 previously, both of which were getting 5g in these areas, and I've checked that it's set correctly for preferred network type under *#*#4636*# from the dialer.
APN settings are mostly greyed out from editing, I can pretty much only add a name to one for what's allowed. VZWINTERNET entry looks fine though, and everything else such as mms/sms/calls/LTE data area all fine.
Phone is unrooted and I'm trying to avoid tinkering too much, but can unlock BL if it's absolutely necessary. I've got a US Mobile (Verizon MVNO) sim that also is only showing LTE for data if I pop that in.
Not the end of the world as I often switch over to LTE instead as it's often more reliable for me, but curious if it's still something I can get working.

Which model(my phone/detailed info../model)and which rom(example:V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM)?

NOSS8 said:
Which model(my phone/detailed info../model)and which rom(example:V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM)?
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Model 2304FPN6DG, rom V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM

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Model 2304FPN6DG, rom V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM
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You should have 5g with N77/78/5 bands, seems strange that the apn stays greyed out, maybe see with your carrier.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-13-ultra

NOSS8 said:
You should have 5g with N77/78/5 bands, seems strange that the apn stays greyed out, maybe see with your carrier.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-13-ultra
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Yeah that's what I was expecting for supported bands. Calling the carrier went about as well as I expected, "your Xiaomi device isn't compatible with the Verizon network, especially since it's missing Band 13. Do you have another device you can activate instead?". Looking around on Google, seems like carriers might be able to lock APN settings on a SIM, so that might be what's happening there, but not sure. Thanks for taking a look at it with me.

But B13 concerns 4g, anyway bands N77/78 have a low range and are mainly used in town.

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VoLTE on Rogers (Canada)

I'm trying to figure out why VoLTE (Voice over LTE) doesn't appear to be working on the Nexus 5X on my carrier (Rogers Wireless in Canada). When I make a call, it drops down to HSPA+. While this still works for voice and data at the same time, it's less than ideal. I know Rogers supports VoLTE since the end of March of this year.
From the hidden *#*#4636#*#* menu, the option "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" appears, but unlike the other options cannot be toggled. Additionally, the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" toggle does not appear under Wireless & Networks → More... → Cellular networks. I've attached screenshots of both screens.
Is this something that we will have to wait for a future update to enable? Currently on build MDB08I.
Is this something that we will have to wait for a future update to enable? Currently on build MDB08I.[/QUOTE said:
also curious to know about this... Do we know what band is used for VoLTE? I believe T-Mobile uses band 12 - (700MHz? or is 700 band 17?). Rogers rolled out that band a while ago (before VoLTE) presumably as a precursor for it.. maybe the secret lies here?
I cant test at the moment but I will when I get home.. Unless a zip can be made.
edit: 700mhz bands 12(700a),13(700c),17(700b) and 29(700d and 700e).
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k.s.deviate said:
also curious to know about this... Do we know what band is used for VoLTE? I believe T-Mobile uses band 12 - (700MHz? or is 700 band 17?). Rogers rolled out that band a while ago (before VoLTE) presumably as a precursor for it.. maybe the secret lies here?
I cant test at the moment but I will when I get home.. Unless a zip can be made.
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Band 12 is 700MHz (sometimes refereed to as 700 a, 699–716 UL 729–746 DL), this is used by T-Mobile. Rogers also has a 700MHz band, but it's Band 17 (sometimes referred to as 700 b c, 704–716 UL 734–746 DL). As I understand it, VoLTE is a prerequisite for enabling Band 12 on T-Mobile (along with E911 certification), but VoLTE should work for every LTE band (including Band 4, which is the dominant band used by Rogers/Telus/Bell).
I'm a little hesitant to flash the old radio, so please report back once you get a chance to try it!
I'm pretty sure Rogers on supports VoLTE on the latest apple products. Rogers sucks
mymusicathome said:
I'm pretty sure Rogers on supports VoLTE on the latest apple products. Rogers sucks
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From what I've researched, it supports VoLTE on the iPhone 6S/6S+, along with:
Rogers said:
The LG Vigor; the Samsung GS6, GS6 edge, GS6 edge+ and Note 5; and the LG G4 are all currently compatible. To see if your device is VoLTE-compatible, check the device specifications on rogers.com.
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If you go to the device specifications on Rogers' website, nothing is written about VoLTE on any of the phones including the G4. However, on the blurb about the G4 when you search Android devices, it lists "Rogers VoLTE" as one of the features. Nothing on the GS6/edge/+/Note5 indicates they are compatible with VoLTE. LG Vigor is no longer offered.
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Band 12 is 700MHz (sometimes refereed to as 700 a, 699–716 UL 729–746 DL), this is used by T-Mobile. Rogers also has a 700MHz band, but it's Band 17 (sometimes referred to as 700 b c, 704–716 UL 734–746 DL). As I understand it, VoLTE is a prerequisite for enabling Band 12 on T-Mobile (along with E911 certification), but VoLTE should work for every LTE band (including Band 4, which is the dominant band used by Rogers/Telus/Bell).
I'm a little hesitant to flash the old radio, so please report back once you get a chance to try it!
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so basically band 12 700a is useless to us on Rogers?
k.s.deviate said:
so basically band 12 700a is useless to us on Rogers?
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Right, since Rogers doesn't use it, it shouldn't matter to us.
I'm still not sure why the option doesn't exist (even grayed out) under "Cellular network settings" and why "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" cannot be toggled. The option that exists for the Nexus 6 after the update to enable VoLTE was pushed (5.1) under "Cellular network settings" says "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" as pictured in the attached screenshot.
It would be helpful if people who were on other networks besides Rogers (especially US providers) if they could post a screenshot of their "Cellular network settings" and tell us if "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" is available. If people on other carriers have the option, then perhaps it is an issue of the device not recognizing that VoLTE is offered by Rogers?
rydare said:
Right, since Rogers doesn't use it, it shouldn't matter to us.
I'm still not sure why the option doesn't exist (even grayed out) under "Cellular network settings" and why "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" cannot be toggled. The option that exists for the Nexus 6 after the update to enable VoLTE was pushed (5.1) under "Cellular network settings" says "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" as pictured in the attached screenshot.
It would be helpful if people who were on other networks besides Rogers (especially US providers) if they could post a screenshot of their "Cellular network settings" and tell us if "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" is available. If people on other carriers have the option, then perhaps it is an issue of the device not recognizing that VoLTE is offered by Rogers?
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According to other posts, the "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" doesn't toggle but a reboot (or several) enables the Advanced 4G option to be enabled. I think both Verizon and T-Mo users have this option, just greyed out.
I don't get it either... we are all on the same firmware, I personally came from a G4 so VoLTE is active on my account but I think its a case of Rogers not allowing our "non supported" devices to use VoLTE. I'm calling tech support to see if they can help out..
edit: no luck.. they still have my device listed as a G4 and say everything is good on their end.
no amounts of reboots will help rogers.. but thank you..
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Verizon has the enhanced 4g option.. only after some messing around I think.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/verizon-voice-lte-t3231184
Yeah downgrading the radio did nothing for us. Since 700a is useless to us I'm flashing the new radio.
k.s.deviate said:
Yeah downgrading the radio did nothing for us. Since 700a is useless to us I'm flashing the new radio.
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Thanks for the update. I'm still curious to find out if anyone has the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" option in their settings, and whether it's a matter of the carrier settings or not being enabled in the ROM. The fact that Verizon people are getting HD calls indicates it has to do with our carrier. I'm trying to get in touch with Rogers and see if they could possibly enable it, they're selling the 6P in their stores so maybe there's hope for our lovely device.
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Thanks for the update. I'm still curious to find out if anyone has the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" option in their settings, and whether it's a matter of the carrier settings or not being enabled in the ROM. The fact that Verizon people are getting HD calls indicates it has to do with our carrier. I'm trying to get in touch with Rogers and see if they could possibly enable it, they're selling the 6P in their stores so maybe there's hope for our lovely device.
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I didn't realise they were getting the 6p.. This might help us out a lot. Do you happen to know an eta?
Edit: just saw that Canadian carriers will be getting the 5X "soon". The word is end of October. Also noticed on rogers' page that there is no mention of VoLTE being a "feature" of the 6P. Here's to staying positive that it and the upcoming Rogers 5X will carry this "feature".. :fingers-crossed:
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I didn't realise they were getting the 6p.. This might help us out a lot. Do you happen to know an eta?
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Last news that came out said they would start fulfilling preorders November 4th. It was delayed a couple times so it could be delayed again.
So the device is available now on rogers, but it is not included in the list when searching by VoLTE. Moto Nexus 6 is tho...
Weird thing is my account was set up with the G4, so VoLTE was set up on my account and according to rogers it still is but I am not able to get it to work with my 5x.
k.s.deviate said:
So the device is available now on rogers, but it is not included in the list when searching by VoLTE. Moto Nexus 6 is tho...
Weird thing is my account was set up with the G4, so VoLTE was set up on my account and according to rogers it still is but I am not able to get it to work with my 5x.
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Yeah, even with 6.0.1 it still drops to 3G for calls, I'm not exactly stock so it could be an issue with how I flashed it but I doubt that is the case. It is still the case that "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" cannot be toggled in the hidden dialer menu. Also there is still nothing under "Cellular network settings" that says "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" like on the Nexus 6.
Since Rogers is only offering the 6P, I don't know if we'll ever see VoLTE for the 5X... but if they patch it in for the software for the 6P, they could theoretically add it in for the 5X too. So maybe there's still hope for a future update that will enable this. 6P still is not listed as a VoLTE device on the Rogers website, but now they are allowing you to search for devices that support VoLTE, which shows you all the usual suspects. So perhaps this feature is getting more prominent for Rogers.
Bell and Telus are offering the 5X directly, but neither carrier has launched VoLTE.
I have the same questions/issues with AT&T as well. My 5X will not expose the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" either. I have all the IMS based features turned on in the dialer menu. Of course you will need a SIM that is attached to a VoLTE account on the back end systems, and I have several of them. You have to be provisoned in the HSS and TAS as IMS capable. If I look at a registration event from the 5X it says its voice service is "CS Only" while my other VoLTE phones attach as both "LTE Voice" and "CS Voice".
I highly suspect the 5X is coded to not allow IMS/VoLTE for other than T-Mob and VZ, but why I don't know.

Data issues

So I have a Verizon model M9 using it with a GSM sim. Its a data sim which can roam on both T-Mobile and AT&T.
Here is my issue, T-Mobile is only EDGE in my area, and the phone works perfectly fine on that, but for some strange reason on AT&T HSPA+/3G It will work for a few min and all the sudden stop working even though "H" will still be at the top of the phone like data is there when its went away.
Its not the carrier, or the sim as this exact sim works perfectly fine with my Verizon G4, iPhone 6S, iPhone 5, and so on with no issues.
Any suggestions for those who use this model on another carrier? Or any suggestions what May be causing this?
I've changed my SKU, S-off, root, etc even running stock roms (non verizon roms) , same issue so its not Verizon software causing it. Also tried setting it to WCDMA and other settings and the issue still occurs.
Any ideas would be great! I really like this phone and hate to have to sell it and go find something else or may end up going back to my G2 for my 2nd line. Could Fast Dormancy cause this?
Thanks!
You're going to be handicapped by the physical limitations of the Verizon M9. Check out what bands T-Mobile & AT&T use and see which ones match up with your moel. The bands that the Verizon HTC M9 supports are:
LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700MHz),
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900)
HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
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You're going to be handicapped by the physical limitations of the Verizon M9. Check out what bands T-Mobile & AT&T use and see which ones match up with your moel. The bands that the Verizon HTC M9 supports are:
LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700MHz),
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900)
HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
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Thanks but it's not a matter of being supported. It supports AT&T 100% 2G and 3G wise. I get HSPA+ just fine without issue its a matter of the phone some how loosing data connection randomly until putting it into airplane mode or rechoosing the network under network selection. But it's fully supported AT&T 3G wise.
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There is a thread in the forums by stifilz to enable more bands but if that's not the issue than something that worked for me was here
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There is a thread in the forums by stifilz to enable more bands but if that's not the issue than something that worked for me was here
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Thanks I might try that. Yeah it's not the matter of the bands is the issue.
What's strange is I'm not having signal issues as signal is perfect it's just the weird loosing data issue while signal is perfectly fine. But worth a shot.
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SM-N976V Note 10 plus 5G portability (carrier switch)

I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
Cashreedhar said:
I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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That is very nice to hear. Does the phone work with other carriers once sim unlocked without changing the phone software? Does 5G work on other carriers too, if the bandwidths match? Thanks
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The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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I may not understand much details of these modems, however my understanding is that there are some 5G bands common between carriers.
Verizon holds 76% of total available 28GHz spectrum bands and and 48% 39GHz 5g spectrum bands.
At&T holds 40% of 39GHz bands and Tmobile holds 12% of 28GHz bands. If I'm not mistaken the modem in Note 10 5G model supports 600MHz which is new Tmobile band. So, if Note 10 modem supports those 2 5G bands on verizon, technically it should work on at&t and t-mobile too? Although these may work in different cities as of now
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
coilbio said:
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
Cashreedhar said:
In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
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technically they wouldnt be blocking anything if they just dont include the antennae/functionailt.. its then up to the user to research and purchase if it suits their needs.
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After Verizon unlocked the phone, surprisingly 5G works with Tmobile without any modification. Of course not all the bands. Haven't had 5G signal so far and suddenly when I'm standing near a 5G antenna in downtown Manhattan, I had full signal
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
Milyenair said:
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
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nope.
the n976v only has vzw and gcf csc codes on it which both use the vzw sales code n network code.. changing carriers should work but on network as the csc should recognize this and load the correct apns n such but the bootani n vzw stuff is there to stay..
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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not odd.. its a vzw branded 5g device.. its hit or miss on other 5g networks.. they typically use different bands and frequencies and 5g variants dont contain full csc for other carriers like the non 5g devices
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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probably need root
CamachoDjr said:
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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Where did you buy this phone? I had the same issue, when I changed the code to GCF from VZW. I had to send the phone back to Samsung, as the local samsung experience store couldn't even understand the problem. GCF is for Samsung diagnostic purposes only and they had to change the motherboard board on the phone in order to fix the issue. If your carrier 5g mmwave band is one of the band used by Verizon, you'll be able to use 5G with this phone. I was able to use 5G in NYC with TMOBILE, but not when I moved to a different state.
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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I can relate the issue you're facing. I was using this phone with TMobile 5G in NYC, but when I moved to different state, I can't get the 5G reception. In order to understand this further, you need to understand the frequencies supported by TMobile and frequencies owned by Verizon. TMobile shares one of Verizon's mmwave band (only around 25%) and these antennas are limited to only few metro cities. Even if you live in one of those big cities, you need to stand close to the 5G antenna in order to get the 5G signal. I remember that I had to stand within 50ft from the antenna in order to get 5G signal (downtown Manhattan near Meridian Lane and Water st).
So I'm new to this. Ive got a Note10+ 5G from Verizon (SM-N976V). Ported over from Verizon to At&t. Works fine accept its on 4G LTE (no 5G... the Samsung S9+ went over to 5G no issues). I am told if I flash the phone to the unlocked firmware it should get rid of the Verizon "lock" and work. I have tried this as per help form Android Central however having no success flashing... I am not exactly that savvy with this stuff... Please help
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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You can network unlock it pretty easily even if the phone isn't paid off yet. Download setedit by 4a from the play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner
and change the setting "vzw_network_lock" from a 1 to a 0. You'll have to buy the expansion pack from 4a to have a foreground guardian that'll prevent it from going back to a 1.
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Question AT&T and International/EU 9 Pro

So, I have been watching the 9 Pro as my next phone (upgrading from HTC U12+), but am really disappointed in a couple of things: (1) it appears there is no plan to certify the US version for AT&T 5G, and (2) no Astral Black for the US.
Since the 5G aspect is unlikely to change anytime soon, and AT&T 5G isn't really all that great anyway from what I hear, is there any downside to buying an EU Astral Black model and using it in the US? I'm still researching all the bands, but it appears the EU model is only missing two LTE bands in use by AT&T (Bands 29 and 30). To be fair, the US version is also missing Band 29 for the 700MHz spectrum, but does contain support for Band 30 at 2300MHz.
I'm going to log which bands are being used where I live and work but, if I will be limited to 4G/LTE anyway, I'm not seeing a downside to buying the EU version. Am I overlooking something? Any thoughts, suggestions, or input is greatly appreciated.
EU has additional options that neither the TMO or US int models have. At&t is behind on 5g deployments anyway so you shouldn't miss out on much, Verizon and TMO would've been better for that. As far as general reqs go, I don't see why not.
mawoods75 said:
So, I have been watching the 9 Pro as my next phone (upgrading from HTC U12+), but am really disappointed in a couple of things: (1) it appears there is no plan to certify the US version for AT&T 5G, and (2) no Astral Black for the US.
Since the 5G aspect is unlikely to change anytime soon, and AT&T 5G isn't really all that great anyway from what I hear, is there any downside to buying an EU Astral Black model and using it in the US? I'm still researching all the bands, but it appears the EU model is only missing two LTE bands in use by AT&T (Bands 29 and 30). To be fair, the US version is also missing Band 29 for the 700MHz spectrum, but does contain support for Band 30 at 2300MHz.
I'm going to log which bands are being used where I live and work but, if I will be limited to 4G/LTE anyway, I'm not seeing a downside to buying the EU version. Am I overlooking something? Any thoughts, suggestions, or input is greatly appreciated.
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As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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I believe that is true - I just want to make sure I'm not inadvertently limiting myself with 4G/LTE coverage by buying the EU version. I don't really care around home/work, as there is usually wifi available. My bigger concern would be coverage in my home area that might get dropped now due to the EU version missing a band that is available on the US version. Or, perhaps when traveling if the EU version is missing bands that other networks (roaming) may use.
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I believe that is true - I just want to make sure I'm not inadvertently limiting myself with 4G/LTE coverage by buying the EU version. I don't really care around home/work, as there is usually wifi available. My bigger concern would be coverage in my home area that might get dropped now due to the EU version missing a band that is available on the US version. Or, perhaps when traveling if the EU version is missing bands that other networks (roaming) may use.
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I have dual sims, straight talk att sim and t mobile sim. Att sim works fine no drop but no 5g, simple mobile -TMobile 5g,4g, I have the Chinese varient with eu firmware
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As far as I know, no models work with att 5g.
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You are correct. I call ATT about once a week asking if they're going to certify/whitelist OnePlus devices. I figure the more complaints they get, the more they'll be inclined to investigate it.
To add to this, most people I speak to have never even heard of OnePlus, which makes the conversation troublesome. Be completely prepared for ATT employees to feed you bad information, say your device isn't compatible (does not have the required hardware), is inferior to Samsung/Motorola/iPhone, and try to sell you a new phone or sent you a new SIM card.
I've posted before about calling ATT. I feel everyone who has their service should call on a regular basis. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
phr0zen said:
You are correct. I call ATT about once a week asking if they're going to certify/whitelist OnePlus devices. I figure the more complaints they get, the more they'll be inclined to investigate it.
To add to this, most people I speak to have never even heard of OnePlus, which makes the conversation troublesome. Be completely prepared for ATT employees to feed you bad information, say your device isn't compatible (does not have the required hardware), is inferior to Samsung/Motorola/iPhone, and try to sell you a new phone or sent you a new SIM card.
I've posted before about calling ATT. I feel everyone who has their service should call on a regular basis. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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And the strange part is they have the 9 and 9 Pro listed on their list of devices that will still work on their network (VoLTE) after they shutdown their 3G service next year. Gives me hope they will certify at some point.
I run this phone on AT&T, and while I don't get 5G speeds, I get very fast LTE+ speeds of around 200mbps.
Thanks all for the input. After some more thought, I believe I have decided on the pine green US version. It's going to be in a case anyway, and I've had very few cases that aren't black. So, if it will be black anyway due to the case, I might as well get the US version. Plus, I think the black case and green camera bump will look sharp.
Reviving an old thread, rather starting anew:
I want to get the 9 pro for T-mobile use in US. I need dual sims and want custom roms...
I saw that "toolhas4degrees" said they had a Chinese model with EU firmware. I don't know if he changed the firmware himself or what... A bit out of my capabilities.
Simply put: What would I need to do (if anything) to get the EU (LE2123) OnePlus 9 Pro to work with T-mobile?
Thanks!

Where can I find the truth about LTE-bands and G8 models?

Hi,
I have problems finding "facts" about the G8 and the LTE bands different models support.
On some pages, like
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lg-g8-...lm-g820um-g820n-g820ua-g820v-g820tm-and-more/
they claim that if you go for the G820QM or G820QM7 you will have maximum coverage.
But either I'm doing things wrong , or , the truth is more complicated.
The bands I really NEED in Sweden are 3,7,8 & 20 , but since I travel a bit I would like as many bands as possible open.
My phone was from the beginning an AT&T bloatware LMG820UM (A9), but now I think it's more like a LMG820QM (A12).
(And unfortunately Band 8 doesn't work. )
Does anyone have a good link to a page that tells the truth or a good way to open up bands ?
Thanks!
Lakritssmurfen said:
Hi,
I have problems finding "facts" about the G8 and the LTE bands different models support.
On some pages, like
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lg-g8-...lm-g820um-g820n-g820ua-g820v-g820tm-and-more/
they claim that if you go for the G820QM or G820QM7 you will have maximum coverage.
But either I'm doing things wrong , or , the truth is more complicated.
The bands I really NEED in Sweden are 3,7,8 & 20 , but since I travel a bit I would like as many bands as possible open.
My phone was from the beginning an AT&T bloatware LMG820UM (A9), but now I think it's more like a LMG820QM (A12).
(And unfortunately Band 8 doesn't work. )
Does anyone have a good link to a page that tells the truth or a good way to open up bands ?
Thanks!
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Probably the most trust worthy I've seen would be GsmAreana. If you follow this link it's for the G8, and it indicates the us Open version supports band 8.
'Open up bands'? Doesn't exist, to my knowledge. Some think the 'hidden system menu' has an option to 'select bands', but in my experience all that menu does is allow you to 'test' for certain bands, to see if they connect. It doesn't 'make it available', as some wish. For the most part, if it's not listed as being a band the rom supports, it's probably not going to connect to it.
LG G8 ThinQ - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
Now I have tried a few different "QM" versions on my phone (that once was an AT&T with "UM").
Right now I flashed it "T-mobile" with a pink start up-screen.
None of those crossflashed firmwares seem to make my phone to connect to LTE band 8.
(My old G7 connects to band8 very often, with good signal).
I'm starting to think that crossflashing doesn't change the frequency bands at all..
If I go in to the service menu, and ONLY pick band 8, it will connect and use only that.
If I select 3,7,8 & 20 it will never connect to 8.
I'm a bit lost with this.. I wonder if my phone still, deep inside, believes it is an UM and shouldn't use band 8.
Maybe time to Ebay it..
Lakritssmurfen said:
Now I have tried a few different "QM" versions on my phone (that once was an AT&T with "UM").
Right now I flashed it "T-mobile" with a pink start up-screen.
None of those crossflashed firmwares seem to make my phone to connect to LTE band 8.
(My old G7 connects to band8 very often, with good signal).
I'm starting to think that crossflashing doesn't change the frequency bands at all..
If I go in to the service menu, and ONLY pick band 8, it will connect and use only that.
If I select 3,7,8 & 20 it will never connect to 8.
I'm a bit lost with this.. I wonder if my phone still, deep inside, believes it is an UM and shouldn't use band 8.
Maybe time to Ebay it..
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So it does connect to 8? As you say. Well that means the other bands have a stronger signal, and that's why they are being chosen and not 8. Your other phone that gets 8 well, does it have the ability to connect to the other bands on other phone? Maybe that's why that one always chooses 8?
And yes, I guarantee you, a different rom will have different bands enabled. Just the way it is.
AsItLies said:
So it does connect to 8? As you say. Well that means the other bands have a stronger signal, and that's why they are being chosen and not 8. Your other phone that gets 8 well, does it have the ability to connect to the other bands on other phone? Maybe that's why that one always chooses 8?
And yes, I guarantee you, a different rom will have different bands enabled. Just the way it is.
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Thanks for your reply.
Yes, my other phone, the LG G7, connects to all bands needed (3,7,8,20) when I travel to work without any problems.
I'll give the G8 some more tries.. but we don't understand each other
Lakritssmurfen said:
Thanks for your reply.
Yes, my other phone, the LG G7, connects to all bands needed (3,7,8,20) when I travel to work without any problems.
I'll give the G8 some more tries.. but we don't understand each other
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You can pull the carrier policy with QPST,and it will show you bands that are supported for the particular firmware you're using and find out.
Surgemanxx said:
You can pull the carrier policy with QPST,and it will show you bands that are supported for the particular firmware you're using and find out.
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Thank you for that suggestion! I didn't know, but now I will try to read out that "carrier policy" next time I have some "play"- time .
(Sorry about the very slow reply, I was on a vacation)
Thanks!

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