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Further steps - after Vanilla and WXML v0.10

At first i would like to thank all guys in the community that worked for it and making this possible - you all are doing this for fun and not for a salary, you all are idealists.
But, especially to kyphur, how it will goes on now? Bug fixing or releasing the one we really wanted?
Almost everybody, me too, flashed a WM6 version either Vanilla or v0.01 and is now sreaming that this is and that is not working. Of course it is a little bit frustating but why you should give up the primary goal - the building of a stable and note beta based rom - for bug fixing?
Now the first WM6 rom is out, the issue with the unnamed source of the "real" in difference to the "beta" rom steps more and more in the background and the time for releasing the real rom, as you wanted to do it, comes closer and closer.
I think it would be a much bigger effort to work on the real rom and checking the dangerous items in it, than doing that bug fixing.
As more you concentrate on this as faster it will be there and, in the end, when we have it, nobody will uses the bugfixes anymore.
other opinions?

I have not abandoned the original Rom Base for WMXL. It is still there and I still want to release a version based on it or it's predecessor (such as an approved for official release carrier Rom).

kyphur said:
I have not abandoned the original Rom Base for WMXL. It is still there and I still want to release a version based on it or it's predecessor (such as an approved for official release carrier Rom).
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Great, thank you and in case that you did not not recognized my pm´s, just delete them.
You´re great!

I say head on to the final release. There are enough guru's here who can figure out how to fix those niggly little bugs, but there's only Kryphur with his finger on the crossbow ROM...

Absolutely,
No other e.g. the same opinions?

I, too are anxious to see the original wm6 rom development coming around at some later stage. I can understand the recent hype though, since I also use my Hermes both as a tech toy and as a work system being torn between these both "system states" often enough. The advent of a stable productive version would surely make my day and I believe the original devt. was a better chance in this direction. For the time being, I am quite content with playing around with what is availeable as of now, knowing that I can always revert to my 'stable' HTC Test rom.
So many great possibilities have surfaced in just the last couple of days, that I am quite sure soon we will basically be able to find solutions for everyones different needs and priorities here.
I for one am definitely keeping an eye out for k's original rom project.
Thank you for your effort and support.

BZ
I agree with apokryphus's premise, which needed to be expressed. I am sitting back waiting for the "original" ROM that kyphur promised. I use my device for work and play, and don't have time or motivation to be squashing bugs all the time When I flash, I want to have a working system that I won't have to constantly return to the forum to find bug fixes for, and I know there are many out there like myself.
Now, friend Kyphur, you are stuck with trying to field all the posts in the "Issues" thread, while at the same time working on the original goal. Did you guys see how heated the thread got at a couple of points?
A thousand thanks, Kyphur, I admire (but don't envy) you! Just don't let the furor raised by the "early release" sidetrack you, PLEASE! "
BZ" as we used to say in the Navy: "Bravo Zulu" (signal talk for "Well Done.")
Best regards to you and your collaborators.
Ben, deported from Chi-Town to Florida.

In according to duttys "rom koch" all we need at last is a stable and original rom then we will have all we need to cook our own specified rom with appz we want and without those we do not want.
I think when kyphur will release his genuine rom, we will have one of the best devices - with out gps - that we can have!

xda-developers overload -- now I'm bored

Great googly moogly.....for almost two weeks straight I was on a xda-developers overload of flashing my phone with something every night.
There was the excitement of some new functionality, mixed with the adrenylene of doing something that you're not "supposed" to be doing, mixed with fear of bricking your phone...
I was obsessed....I would flash as soon as it came out and constantly monitor the thread to see what bugs or hacks people were adding...
Now..I have my phone exactly the way I want it ........AND.........
I'm bored.
When does WM7 come out?

ain't that the truth....

I Agree
I agree! I got my Hermes right at the right time. Just a week after I got it, I started to read this site and figure out how to unlock it. I then loaded the new cingular ROM. As soon as I did that, all of sudden all these WM6 ROMs came out. I've flashed every single ROM and their versions on to my device. It has become second nature. I've found the best one and now I don't know what to do with my free time. It's killing me. Can't wait till WXML0.3. Then I get to do it again at least one more time. Enjoy.

Yep, I am bored too. Although if LVSW keep the usual schedule, we should see new version now. It seem as we were getting an update every 5 days. I was taken sick days from work to play with my phone. The truth is after staying up all night there was no way I can perform well at work.
Anyway I am seating here waiting to flash a new ROM

I'm so bored...I'm thinking about flashing WM5 again...okay... maybe not that bored

bkbroil said:
There was the excitement of some new functionality, mixed with the adrenylene of doing something that you're not "supposed" to be doing, mixed with fear of bricking your phone...
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Geekaholicus Vulgarus - very common these days.

I feel your pain!

I'm just waiting for Black v2 to come out. then it's back to flashing again.

jcb_home said:
I'm just waiting for Black v2 to come out. then it's back to flashing again.
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Ditto! A week ago I was a scared noob... now I'm a flash-freak!

omg I feel the same way, I have a wizard dash and hermes and every day I am flashing at least one of them. I need a new hobby, like many others here my wife thinks im cheating on her with the internets. when Im at work I check this forum constantly! havent been caught yet!

Ooh! Ooh! New Flash Alert!!!!!

absolutely know what your'e talking about

update your SPL's and/or signatures to 1.40.Olipro then

I check this forum at least five times a day. I've flashed XDA Live 1, 2.0, LVSW, Black 1.2... and ended up sticking with XDA 2.0. Its the sturdiest for me...
Then Windows Live Messenger Beta stopped so I am now waiting for Black V2... with full on Live messenger - but that wont stop me from loading WMXL 3.0 when it arrives... and then I may just get a life.

Well... When we have all tried it all - next must be to create even better roms, perhaps even one that can make us fly to the moon....

Martinhdk said:
Well... When we have all tried it all - next must be to create even better roms, perhaps even one that can make us fly to the moon....
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What makes you think these roms won't? Last time they flew to the moon they had a ZX81 in the cockpit...

TwoPlus1 said:
What makes you think these roms won't? Last time they flew to the moon they had a ZX81 in the cockpit...
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HAHA - yessir..
But I believe that the roms from our Chefs will improve to a level much higher than the original WM6 - and what I find even more impressive is the way that things have developed so far. OLI, ROMS, Memory, Tweaks, Improvements..
Had I been from MS I would for sure keep my eyes opened in here... And who knows (This i far out I know, and just meant for fun) if MS had released som BETA to see reactions and how things in the OS would be improved.
Or without the MS releasing - I am sure they must keep an eye on the Forum and different threads and releases - just to see improvement. And who knows. They might end up adapting some of the stuff. (Or try to find ways to avoid what the chefs are doing...)
...just som crazy thoughts..

Sometimes i think we all just are "wm6-Betatesters" for Microsoft. Esepecially since in know that we will get an official wm6 rom for our tytns. Perhaps xda-devs have a secret contract with Microsoft. Who knows

I have the same feeling... it´s been a great two weeks but as things begin to settle down I´m always awaiting the next "fix".

I think that I will stick to a XDA ROM instead of a slow MS ROM. I dont believe that they will end up with a rom as good as i can be when our CHEFS have had it in the kitchen....heheh
BTW - has any heard of any software that let us emulate old MS games - like the classic games series of Close Combat.

OS versions and a question

I know a few of the ROM authors have "final" (RTM?) versions of the various OSes.
Are we to the point of fine-tuning, or do we have a while longer in the devlopment cycle before we ar to that point?
I REALLY appreciate all the work that has been done (and the guinea pigs who do all the testing).
I only have upgraded to the new Cingular ROM and a radio upgrade for now... baby steps as to not get in over my head as I read and learn.
But I am ready to make the move soon to a WM6 version. I just don't have time to constantly flash/reflash the device.
I am a pilot and use the device for my logbook, as well as for a GPS.
Thanks -
RG

If its that important to always have a working device, I suggest you stick to manufacturer roms.
No one else guarentees anything.
Also, now would be a good time to find FLAME-retardant clothing.....
Maz
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** watchin' out for the n00bs **

rgreenpc said:
I know a few of the ROM authors have "final" (RTM?) versions of the various OSes.
Are we to the point of fine-tuning, or do we have a while longer in the devlopment cycle before we ar to that point?
I REALLY appreciate all the work that has been done (and the guinea pigs who do all the testing).
I only have upgraded to the new Cingular ROM and a radio upgrade for now... baby steps as to not get in over my head as I read and learn.
But I am ready to make the move soon to a WM6 version. I just don't have time to constantly flash/reflash the device.
I am a pilot and use the device for my logbook, as well as for a GPS.
Thanks -
RG
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Probably best to stick with what you have atm dude. These ROMS are still in testing and i would advise against using them at the mo because your logbook is dead important.

Thanks for the info... I thought as much.
I have done minor radio/operator mods... but I will hold off for a while longer.
I just hate the bloat of Congular/ATT's ROMS.

rgreenpc said:
Thanks for the info... I thought as much.
I have done minor radio/operator mods... but I will hold off for a while longer.
I just hate the bloat of Congular/ATT's ROMS.
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I would recommend the Leaf South Africa ROM to you then. It's less bloated than the AT&T ROM. You can get all the MMS/GPRS settings with wpbear's install cabs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298520

Where have all the good cooks went?

I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?

alancstan said:
I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?
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I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.

esseff said:
I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Oooh, you'll catch hell for that one...

I think with WM6 being released, it has taken the punch out of some of the cooks fun\obsession. Also there has been several good kitchens released that allow for just about anybody to cook their own rom just how they want it. Check out the Pandora thread it's great!

I hope they reappear for the Kaiser.

esseff said:
I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Pff...What the hell are you doing here on this forum, if you think most of us dont live a normal life, like we are all nerds or people with no life.. because most of us like to modify our phone..
Look in the miror, you will see the person with no life..

Bro Bram87,
Please don't start flamming over here.... just a discussion wil do. Everyone here loves their Hermes!

waiting for wm7...

The real reason is that the production WM6 release is very stable & fast

Some cooks are still here... We still have some Betas... That means LIFE

Err i think the cooks are here, its just all the roms out there dont really need any improvement now?
if you try a few of the latest ones, you will see you'll have very little rom related issues, so no need, to cook, and improve the roms!

fil,
Yes I do agree, the current batch of roms are very stable and fast. But however, I do find that a cook is always a cook, whereby the perfection will never take place, always challenging till the end!
my 2 cents of opinion...

alancstan said:
However noted that all the good cooks went missing?
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Pardon me?
I'll agree with the others... it's getting pretty difficult to improve on the Hermes ROM at this point. Working on it, though.

Aside from the facts that there are some excellent chefs still in the hermes kitchen, that the roms are probably near completition for WM6 etc - I think what drove a lot of the cooks away was a combination of the constant flaming that seems to go on in the Hermes forums - I typically find most of it pretty funny but reading through some of the other forums I am always surprised how there is nowhere near as much flaming going on. That and I think they got sick of people complaining there rom broke this or that when it was something stupid the person did and didn't follow the instructions or do a simple search for the solution. I could easily see how that could put somebody off of releasing to the public something they worked so hard to make.
Regardless of all that, there are some great chefs about - VP3g, Schapps, Duttythroy, Dutty (I think still puts out roms), JasJamming (though he doesn't realse them here any more - somebody usually post a link when he does). If I forgot to mention you or butchered the spelling of your name - sorry - not intentional

I think the cooks on here are doing an excellent job! the problem is Microsoft now is starting to do some sh** right and making a fast rom for our phone. I've tried every rom on xda that I could find at least once to test them. It's just getting harder for the cooks to cook better roms when they are working with the software that is released and taking their time to help us.
Just remember its like the military the stuff they've have for 10 years is just new to citizens. its kinda similar with wm6 just give em time and until then enjoy the awesome roms that we have!!!!
.... or you could build your own if your that risky.

[X51V] Oct2011 ~ Anyone want to help work on a new ROM?

Hi everyone, long time no see,
I have been away for a year or so and have just been having a look around to see if anything has changed. Looks like Makuu and Lenny have possibly stopped but all is not lost.
I have got hold of two modern ROM kitchens for the X51v of both WM6.1 (more recent than Lenny) and WM6.5.5 (I think).
I will put something together for my personal use. I am wondering if there is still interest from others to maybe put something together for the community?
I should be able to put something together by myself (would take me longer working by myself) but would like to put a team together if there is anyone that has previous ROM kitchen building experience (preferably X51v) and is interested in this project please post comment here or send me an email (or pm private message as a last resort).
If you don't have ROM experience but feel confident and are skilled in computing (I have 25 years experience) and think you can put time,etc into the project then you maybe accepted.
Note; I am not looking for beta testers or art/graphics/design people at this time. Looking for people that want to get there hands dirty in adjusting the ROM and will require people that can read/self learn/and think outside the square to solve any problems/issues.
I will first be getting the new WM6.1 finished first before the WM6.5.5 ROM.
I already have plenty of ideas to hopefully make the WM6.1 the fastest available due to my previous caching investigations, if you have read my previous posts from in the past.
Overview;
Kitchens have already been designed for X51v use.
Most recent WM6.1 build (although not sure how compares to Makuu 523F).
Chance to increase the performance.
Chance to get in and customize the build how we want.
I think other kitchen is for WM6.5.5 from memory.
All from a reputable source.
Comes with manuals that are not in English but I will get them translated.
ROMs are English build versions.
***ROM building is risky same as flashing ROMs. It requires patience, double checking everything you do, and there is always the risk that you may brick your X51v if you are not sure/confident in your processes and steps. This is why I do not want anyone that does not respect this or acknowledge this fact.***
People may be required to put a minimum of 10 hours per week into this project. If you may not be able to commit this time then maybe don't respond.
I will also put this message at htcgeeks website and the chance to join the initial group will end at the end of 2011.
Cheers.