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[Q] T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S3 Gaming Performance???

Hey guys I'm a loyal T-Mobile USA user and decided to purchase the international version of the GS3 instead of our very own S4 edition due to the powerful Mali GPU. Since gaming is very important to me, I was wondering how the Adreno 225 performed when running games like Nova 3, Real Soccer 2012, Modern Combat 3, Mass Effect, etc.... Can anyone tell me if they notice any lag at all? What about 1080p flash content in the browser, YouTube? Let me know guys thanks!!!

hows internet speed lol

Vaddy23 said:
Hey guys I'm a loyal T-Mobile USA user and decided to purchase the international version of the GS3 instead of our very own S4 edition due to the powerful Mali GPU. Since gaming is very important to me, I was wondering how the Adreno 225 performed when running games like Nova 3, Real Soccer 2012, Modern Combat 3, Mass Effect, etc.... Can anyone tell me if they notice any lag at all? What about 1080p flash content in the browser, YouTube? Let me know guys thanks!!!
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MC3 - says not compatible, get refund (as do most other gameloft games)
Mass Effect - Crashes after headphone screen or during intro video
Real Racing 2 - Crashes after intro video with an error about not being able to load an mp3

So far it works great no lag
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I think its not compatible yet as the phone just came out...new phones do that all the time.
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nonmindo said:
MC3 - says not compatible, get refund (as do most other gameloft games)
Mass Effect - Crashes after headphone screen or during intro video
Real Racing 2 - Crashes after intro video with an error about not being able to load an mp3
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Yikes thats not good news lol, I wonder why???
Thanks to everyone for the prompt feedback I will wait for more opinions on this subject matter.

sleepy13909 said:
So far it works great no lag
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Thanks for the feedback but what works great without any lag? Can you be more specific please?

Vaddy23 said:
Yikes thats not good news lol, I wonder why???
Thanks to everyone for the prompt feedback I will wait for more opinions on this subject matter.
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I might also add that I tried the above games:
On Stock ROM PRE-Root
On Stock ROM Rooted
On Stock ROM Rooted with Bloat removed
All give the same results, I thought it was possibly due to either the root or bloat, but doesnt appear to be the case
Also, noticed that when I restored my nandroid, while the checksum matched, and the restore completed
A LOT of my settings were lost and some apps refused to run at all...so not sure what happened there....even tried clearing cache / dalvik and fixing perms

nakolas69 said:
hows internet speed lol
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Wondering the same thing

nonmindo said:
MC3 - says not compatible, get refund (as do most other gameloft games)
Mass Effect - Crashes after headphone screen or during intro video
Real Racing 2 - Crashes after intro video with an error about not being able to load an mp3
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Enable GPU Acceleration
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flak0 said:
Enable GPU Acceleration
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Where is that setting?
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zonly1 said:
Where is that setting?
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It's under settings, developer options, but it doesn't work, it still crashes after the intro video

Hmm. I only see "Force GPU rendering"...

Vaddy23 said:
Hey guys I'm a loyal T-Mobile USA user and decided to purchase the international version of the GS3 instead of our very own S4 edition due to the powerful Mali GPU. Since gaming is very important to me, I was wondering how the Adreno 225 performed when running games like Nova 3, Real Soccer 2012, Modern Combat 3, Mass Effect, etc....
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if gaming is so important to you, buy a gaming computer or a gaming notebook. get outta here, troll. seriously. gtfo and buy yourself a PS Vita or a DS.

nick2k said:
if gaming is so important to you, buy a gaming computer or a gaming notebook. get outta here, troll. seriously. gtfo and buy yourself a PS Vita or a DS.
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You know, for someone whose been a member since 2010 you're kinda acting like an ass right now. I figure after 168 post you would have learned to not disrespect people in their own threads and to not be a ****. Not everyone buys their "Top of the line" "High End" "Smartphone" to just make phone calls and send text messages. Why even own a "Smartphone" if that's all you do?
While it seems that he is indeed phishing, he asks a good question. Gaming is a big concern to a lot of the people(especially the younger members)on these boards. It's a legitimate question and if you don't think he's asking it in good faith(i.e. asking just to gloat) prove him wrong. Post videos of the US SGS III running these games with no lag. Post replies with your take on how the device handles games from your own experience. Don't just come in and start talking **** on someone.
These games and applications are out for our "High End" mobile devices to be played lag free while pushing the devices GPU to the limit. If our 600$+ High End Smartphone can't keep up with what's currently available now, what's it going to be like 6 months to a year from now?
It's unacceptable that people always push that same old mantra of "Buy a gaming PC, or a PS Vita, Or a Nintendo DS, or an Xbox 360, or a PS3 if you want to play games". That's total and utter BS. I'm sorry if some of the other members on these boards expect more out of their 600$+ Smartphone (Or just any Expensive High End device in general) than you do.
Awesome, good talk. I feel like we made a lot of progress there, and I'm very proud of you!
P.S. And remember to always have fun!
P.P.S Sorry for calling you a ****, it was mean and I feel bad now.

i <3 you too, imnothimm. :highfive:
but to justify my moment of internet rage, he admitted that he chose to by the international version for gaming. so why is he asking about 1080 progressive vids and youtube stuff??? anyways... that was before i had anything to eat, so reading that was just "ughhhhh....really now? AHHHHHMERICA! F*** YEAH!!!"

nick2k said:
i <3 you too, imnothimm. :highfive:
but to justify my moment of internet rage, he admitted that he chose to by the international version for gaming. so why is he asking about 1080 progressive vids and youtube stuff??? anyways... that was before i had anything to eat, so reading that was just "ughhhhh....really now? AHHHHHMERICA! F*** YEAH!!!"
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I'm glad we're still BFF's random guy I chastised on the Internet.
The ":highfive:" and "I <3 you" made my day!
Speaking of AMERICA! Great minds...
I was actually thinking about throwing "AMERICA!" (Read "AHMURIKA!") in there somewhere I just couldn't make it work lol.
Back on topic though! I personally would love to see Reviews and videos from you guys Telling/showing your experiences with gaming on this device.
So come on people post!

nick2k said:
i <3 you too, imnothimm. :highfive:
but to justify my moment of internet rage, he admitted that he chose to by the international version for gaming. so why is he asking about 1080 progressive vids and youtube stuff??? anyways... that was before i had anything to eat, so reading that was just "ughhhhh....really now? AHHHHHMERICA! F*** YEAH!!!"
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The reason why I was curious about the T-Mobile version of the galaxy S3 was because I was thinking of selling my international version since I'm stuck on Edge.......... Would rather just get TMobile a version with Hspa+ if the performance is largely the same.

yo! progressive vid plays great on the phone. plus the wife has been throwing hella games at it and it runs like buttah. Edge sucks. both the data speed and the shaving cream. get the TMOUS variant of the SGSIII... UHHHHHHHMERICAAAAAAAAAA F*** YEAH!
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and sorry for going Bikini Atoll on you earlier, OP. wasn't myself. :good:

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ^^^^^^^^ I'm in tears thats funny as hell.... lmao

I'm thinking about upgrading from Galaxy S2 to HOX...

I was planning to buy a new smartphone to replace my Galaxy S2 and thought I would get the HTC One X.
I am slightly put off by the horror stories that are flying around about very poor build quality, GPS problems, WiFi problems and probably the main reason, I heard that the HOX is having problems with some high end games!
The fact that the HOX uses the Tegra chip means surely it should handle any game thrown it's way, right?
I have heard that when playing some high end Tegra 3 games it often overheats and/or freezes or lags like hell. The only way to stop is to install a patch or some sort of driver upgrade, is this true?
Would love some info on how the HOX handles high end games as I play a lot of games on my phone.
Thanks guys!

1. There are 700,000 threads with the same start as this one. You didn't even need to search. Just read the first page.
2. Your list of nightmares are pretty much the exceptions. Not common at all.
3. If you think the phone has all these flaws, why bother?
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These forums will always have tons of problem related threads, that's the nature of forums.
Mine is a launch day HT23 model and is issue free.
What games do you play, and I shall let you know how they perform.
Issues with games tend to be Gameloft games, they ain't supporting Tegra chipsets that well.
But games like GTA, Max Payne, dead trigger, mass effect, pro evo 2012, sonic, shadow gun etc all run great.
Only Gameloft game I own that runs properly is Modern Combat 3, I'm not sure why they haven't fixed the others yet. (But I haven't tried them all)
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People who get normal products won't came up and shout, i get a good phone..
In contrary, many who get a abnormal phone probably came up here shouting..
Though, I had to admits that HOX has higher defective rate compared to others.
Just make sure you checked the phone before leaving the shop, you may find some guide here.

I've been lucky enough to not have ANY hardware problems with my One X at all. It seems like there have just been a lot of isolated incidents of hardware faults with the earlier batches that HTC sent out. By now, you'd be quite unlucky to run into any of these issues, but if you do get a One X, check that you don't have any of the hardware issues (which have been documented here on xda) before rooting it.
As for gaming, i've mainly played Dead Trigger, Osmos and a few other 2d games. So far, i haven't had ANY issues with any of those games. Dead Trigger looks particularly amazing though with all the special tegra 3 effects and it runs smoother than it does on my friend's S2. Actually, i also played Dark Meadow (a tegra 3 optimised game) which looked REALLY good and ran very very smoothly.
A lot of my friends have the S2. The biggest differences between the two devices will be the screen resolution, the speed of the One X is much greater in general too (especially on AOSP ROMs, but ESPECIALLY jelly bean). Also, the One X will probably be a slight decline in terms of battery life from the S2. However, i seem to get pretty similar (and GREAT) battery life on my One X compared to what a lot of my friends get on their S2 phones.
I hope that helps. Give a thanks if you found this useful!

Thanks guys,
Glad to hear it's just the early batches that had faults.
And as far as gaming goes the only Gameloft game I play is MC3 so that's cool
Think I'll bite the bullet and join the HOX club, it does seem like one hell of a decent phone!

Obagleyfreer said:
Thanks guys,
Glad to hear it's just the early batches that had faults.
And as far as gaming goes the only Gameloft game I play is MC3 so that's cool
Think I'll bite the bullet and join the HOX club, it does seem like one hell of a decent phone!
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Well, mine is a launch day model and issue free
after the 2.17 update to 4.0.4, home screen smoothness is the smoothest I've seen on non-JB devices.
Only slight jerk in frame rate for me is opening the app launcher, it doesn't happen every time but its due to the animation HTC have added were it loads up from the bottom and moves up the screen.
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You will miss, quick setting from notification bar. Wish it is present in 2.17 but not to be.
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biggiebro said:
You will miss, quick setting from notification bar. Wish it is present in 2.17 but not to be.
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I have the quick settings in 2.17

Baldilocks said:
I have the quick settings in 2.17
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Only if you mean a 2.17 based custom ROM.
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4z01235 said:
Only if you mean a 2.17 based custom ROM.
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Actually you are right. I have the Settings Menu in my notification area.

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4z01235 said:
Only if you mean a 2.17 based custom ROM.
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I'm pretty sure that it was added back in by HTC.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
I'm pretty sure that it was added back in by HTC.
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Nope, they did not. I am on stock 2.17 and it's not there. All there is is the same shortcut to the settings menu as before, but no actual quick settings (ie toggles).
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SH24 model here, still running on 1.28 and no problems at all. Sure, it's my third one, but it seems fine and it ~is~ a great phone.

Obagleyfreer said:
I have heard that when playing some high end Tegra 3 games it often overheats and/or freezes or lags like hell. The only way to stop is to install a patch or some sort of driver upgrade, is this true?
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gameloft games for some reason are anti tegra, you can even see visible clipping issues in them and so they lag
the only heavy GL game that support tegra properly so far is The Drak Knight with full effects and good performance
their upcoming wild blood game should run well, since Tegra 3 has proven to run unreal engine games pretty well such in the Dark Meadow and Horn
Tegra 3 is a hot chip due to the 40nm process but one of the most stable chipsets i have ever messed with, much more stable than all my snapdragon devices, even at the hottest temps the device never freezes
as for the temps they are actually similar to the SGS2 and not worse
finally Tegra3 and the software for it has matured pretty well matured now and all the major issues were squashed
all other non GL games runs very good, THD games are amazing
you will have to root, install faux kernel and use the renovate gaming boost app to get the most out of this device for gaming (without sacrificing HTC sense)
Tons of info about gaming in my sig links

Obagleyfreer said:
I was planning to buy a new smartphone to replace my Galaxy S2 and thought I would get the HTC One X.
I am slightly put off by the horror stories that are flying around about very poor build quality, GPS problems, WiFi problems and probably the main reason, I heard that the HOX is having problems with some high end games!
The fact that the HOX uses the Tegra chip means surely it should handle any game thrown it's way, right?
I have heard that when playing some high end Tegra 3 games it often overheats and/or freezes or lags like hell. The only way to stop is to install a patch or some sort of driver upgrade, is this true?
Would love some info on how the HOX handles high end games as I play a lot of games on my phone.
Thanks guys!
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I had S2 earlier and loved that phone. HOX is the best phone i have every used till date until i started experiancing the issues with in two months of purchase.
1) WIFI death grip : Fixed by serivce center - (lose contact)
2) Yellow / warmer whites (HT23 ) - Got replacement to SH 25 and whites are beautiful in display
3) Screen banding -/ Shattered display screen , will become normal after trying 5 times by putiing phone to stand by mode and unclock
Service center ppl are replacing the borad in next three days
Hence decide

Defect free since first day and dropped the phone many times and still not yet broked and have played all gameloft game except nova and they run well.
I love hox . If you are an good dropper then go for hox.
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Anyone else tired of getting shafted

By Gameloft in the graphics department on their games? Nova3 and MC4 we loose shadows and particle effects just to name 2 things. Even though devices like the nexus 10 or nexus 4 can easily handle them they don't get effects either. My GNex played NOVA3 with CF glitch perfectly. Why Gameloft no love v us you think? :3 at least madfinger gives us love I guess :|
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They probably get a Tegra3 kickback from Nvidia.

063_XOBX said:
They probably get a Tegra3 kickback from Nvidia.
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I'm talking about android in general, even on the nexus 7 they are disabled
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I'd be willing to bet its because of app piracy, and considering how easy it is to pirate an android app vs. an iOS app.
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msavic6 said:
I'd be willing to bet its because of app piracy, and considering how easy it is to pirate an android app vs. an iOS app.
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That'd be like developers making games for Mac and giving windows a **** version. Piracy will happen regardless of platform and if someone is going to pirate it wont matter if its iOS or android they'll get it done just the same
Edit: also by that logic why release it at all?
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ECOTOX said:
By Gameloft in the graphics department on their games? Nova3 and MC4 we loose shadows and particle effects just to name 2 things. Even though devices like the nexus 10 or nexus 4 can easily handle them they don't get effects either. My GNex played NOVA3 with CF glitch perfectly. Why Gameloft no love v us you think? :3 at least madfinger gives us love I guess :|
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Because iOS is the lead platform and it's not worth the money to put additional effort into optimizing for hundreds of combination of hardware running Android. This is where iOS is more awesome than Android.

skadebo said:
Because iOS is the lead platform and it's not worth the money to put additional effort into optimizing for hundreds of combination of hardware running Android. This is where iOS is more awesome than Android.
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Yea ik T.T I just don't like to admit it ... Gameloft makes games I wanna play but they're lazy bastards :| really wish android wasnt considered the ugly step child they gotta pay some attention to by some of the lead developers. Makes you wonder how long they plan looking at android that way.
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ECOTOX said:
Yea ik T.T I just don't like to admit it ... Gameloft makes games I wanna play but they're lazy bastards :| really wish android wasnt considered the ugly step child they gotta pay some attention to by some of the lead developers. Makes you wonder how long they plan looking at android that way.
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Like any industry we're going to see a consolidation of suppliers. For internals I'm thinking Samsung and Qualcomm, (Texas Instruments has dropped out, right?). For screen resolution I think it's still a crapshoot, hopefully we'll have settled on 1280 x 720 (OH HAI NEXUS 4 with your silly 768 width resolution, I thought Nexus was the reference. Will the reference change every year? That's nice).
But yeah, once everyone's on Samsung and Qualcomm silicon then maybe it'll be slightly easier for the devs to dev on Android.

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Like any industry we're going to see a consolidation of suppliers. For internals I'm thinking Samsung and Qualcomm, (Texas Instruments has dropped out, right?). For screen resolution I think it's still a crapshoot, hopefully we'll have settled on 1280 x 720 (OH HAI NEXUS 4 with your silly 768 width resolution, I thought Nexus was the reference. Will the reference change every year? That's nice).
But yeah, once everyone's on Samsung and Qualcomm silicon then maybe it'll be slightly easier for the devs to dev on Android.
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I suppose, but I see this mostly happening with big names. Smaller companies seem to have less problems but it's too much for the likes of Gameloft and others? The zenonia games for example I've had no problems with since my G1 back in the day. It's run on every device and every OS that I've had no issues. I don't think it's a matter of " difficulty" it's a matter of laziness. I will say in regards to hardware that I wouldn't count nvidia out so much I'm not a fan of them but I think that nvidia, Qualcomm, and Samsung will be the big three (sad to see Texas instrument go :c) Intel and AMD don't have much chance in the space outside of maybe tablets, I don't see them doing well in regards to phones. Though I would like to seem a dual core AMD APU with a radeon Chip in my phone or tablet
Edit: my opinion of laziness would also stem from the fact that Nova 3 hasn't worked on my GNex in almost two months since the last update and Gameloft has yet to fix it. The fact that they manage to break support then just don't fix it is ridiculous. No communication on the matter or anything.
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By difficulty I really means time and money. One thing I've learned since working in QA on mobile projects is that developers aren't lazy, management jus doesn't let them fix things due to the money involved.they would rather put money towards a new game for more sales while maintaining some semblance of quality, at least that's the idea. Some go for quantity of games over quality but in the long run they'll hurt themselves.

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By difficulty I really means time and money. One thing I've learned since working in QA on mobile projects is that developers aren't lazy, management jus doesn't let them fix things due to the money involved.they would rather put money towards a new game for more sales while maintaining some semblance of quality, at least that's the idea. Some go for quantity of games over quality but in the long run they'll hurt themselves.
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Agreed. That's why in this day and age u only have respect for some game developers. My list would go towards valve corporation as they still provide free dlc and bit releasing games that aren't done. My second goes to blizzard entertainment.
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Steam on Android needs to happen soon. And I mean "real" Steam.

skadebo said:
Because iOS is the lead platform and it's not worth the money to put additional effort into optimizing for hundreds of combination of hardware running Android. This is where iOS is more awesome than Android.
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Pretty sure android is the top platform.
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BrianDigital said:
Pretty sure android is the top platform.
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Too much hardware differentiation from a dev standpoint.

skadebo said:
By difficulty I really means time and money. One thing I've learned since working in QA on mobile projects is that developers aren't lazy, management jus doesn't let them fix things due to the money involved.they would rather put money towards a new game for more sales while maintaining some semblance of quality, at least that's the idea. Some go for quantity of games over quality but in the long run they'll hurt themselves.
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I know the individuals themselves aren't lazy I don't blamed the employee I blame the company they work for. Gameloft needs to get it straight that quality will earn them loyalty and in the long run five them better revenue due to a better reputation. Like Valve for instance, I'd buy any game they made in a heartbeat because I know the company as a whole provides quality games and customer support. Favoring a given platform in the mobile space with how it's evolving isnt gonna be the way to go. Companies need to look at the mobile space similar to the desktop/laptop gaming space not like consoles. Phones/tablets are closer to desktops/laptops in function and need to be treated as such. That's just my opinion c:
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063_XOBX said:
Too much hardware differentiation from a dev standpoint.
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In regards to games the functionality between devices isn't much different then how it is with everyday PCs. You got gaming rigs, low end laptops, etc. With single, dual, quads, some only support up to SSE2 instructions, some have GPU with steam core or the old pixel/vertex processor type. The mobile space is no different than regular computers in that regard. The processors are mostly ARM based or arm compatible which due to dalvik isn't a concern. GPU all have support for pretty much the same functions with some difference in things like supported texture formats. There really is no excuse as the mobile space isn't bringing anything radical to the table.
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063_XOBX said:
Steam on Android needs to happen soon. And I mean "real" Steam.
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What would be considered "real" Steam? Valve making a source engine for Android and allownig devs to use it? ... hmm now that I loudly pointed that out, it is a pretty nice initiative if a source engine was made. I saw ports of CS and Portal 2 (which VALVE told the developer to take it off and the dev stopped the project) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e9JhE9miOg

zephiK said:
What would be considered "real" Steam? Valve making a source engine for Android and allownig devs to use it? ... hmm now that I loudly pointed that out, it is a pretty nice initiative if a source engine was made. I saw ports of CS and Portal 2 (which VALVE told the developer to take it off and the dev stopped the project) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e9JhE9miOg
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I heard rumor valve was considering it somewhere :3 steam that is
And I'd love to see a source port to mobile c:
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ARCHOS 97 Titanium HD - 9.7 Retina IPS, Dual Core 1,6GHz, 1GB RAM, Mali 400 Quad GPU

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Thread for those who are interested in Archos 97 Titanium HD.
Got my device about two weeks ago and I'm really impressed with this Archos tablet. It's probably the first on the market to offer iPad like Retina screen and first Archos tablet that's is pretty pleasant to use, because Android 4.1 at lats runs pretty decent, fast and smooth.

Hi i have the same tablet, i look at the video and there are running a game like gta, in my google play, they aren't this app because it is uncompatible with it, there is a way to play it?....i saw windows rt in the video, what can i do this? Thank you

Yes, Google likes to disable some apps by country or tablet model.. though you can always download apps on PC and install them from SD card anyway..

Do you know if can i root this tablet?

Just thought I'd add a little feedback here as our family has just bought a new Archos tablet and this 97 Titanium HD was on our shortlist but we discovered at the last moment that it didn't have a mini HDMI socket like the rest of the Titanium range. It also seems some people are not too impressed with the 97 Titanium HD specs to cope with the higher retina display resolution. Therefore just thought I'd mention if you want the higher resolution and the mini HDMI you'd be better off spending a little extra to get the 97 Platinum HD which has quad core CPU and 8 core graphics, opposed to dual core CPU and 4 core graphics on the Titanium.
The Platinum range is currently only on pre-order so we went for the 101 Titanium as it has the mini HDMI and means we can also use it with a non smart flat screen TV to add BBC iPlayer etc.
Going well so far but a few apps we wanted aren't available for 4.1, such as, ITV Player, thetrainline, UK Bus Times Live, Rightmove.
Hopefully Android 4.2 will be available soon.

lucalampe said:
Do you know if can i root this tablet?
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Haven't found any guides on rooting and custom ROMs yet.
Though there are info for 97 Carbon, maybe it suits for Titanium too. Haven't tried.

No the carbon way doesnot work try the 80xs way
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The ARCHOS 97 Titanium HD looks the same as my VIEWPIA TB-310 and has the same specs.
Mine plays 1080p movies from a 1TB NTFS USB HD connected via the OTG cable to the host USB connector.
It is also ideal for reading PDF documents with the RADAee PDF reader.
Minor drawbacks are the 12V/2A power supply and the lack of an HDMI output; it also allows only one USB storage device.
I bought the 8GB version for 225 Euro in the Netherlands (this includes a 3 Euro copy tax).
Googling for "9.7 Retina IPS, Dual Core 1,6GHz, 1GB RAM" yields at least three different labels and several sellers offer the same machine without mentioning a brand.
Does someone knows the originator of this tablet?

Archos 97 titanium retails for 255 euros in Lithuania and you get 2 year warranty. Guess Android updates from Archos too.

Some games on Archos 97 Titanium HD.

R: ARCHOS 97 Titanium HD - 9.7 Retina IPS, Dual Core 1,6GHz, 1GB RAM, Mali 400 Quad G
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Thread for those who are interested in Archos 97 Titanium HD.
Got my device about two weeks ago and I'm really impressed with this Archos tablet. It's probably the first on the market to offer iPad like Retina screen and first Archos tablet that's is pretty pleasant to use, because Android 4.1 at lats runs pretty decent, fast and smooth.
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Fast band smooth... you gotta be kidding, try HD mode and you better male yourself a coffee while waiting for e-mail to open...
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Yes, try it more often if whole point is just to complain.
I've tried both normal and HD modes, haven't even noticed a difference in picture quality, so normal mode is a lot faster, smoother and saves battery. Haven't used HD since then at all.
Let's remember that Archos 97 Titanium is even cheaper than previous G8, G9 models, but offers incomparable screen quality, speed has dramatically improved as battery life too.
Even then compared to Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, Archos 97 has way better screen, runs a lot faster and retails for less.
And if speed is the most important thing, buy iPad, Windows device, but never Android. There is no Android device yet that runs smoothly and probably won't be anytime soon. So Archos is smooth only compared by Android standards, that you don't have to make a coffee every single time then clicking next link or turning magazine page (because you had with 101 G9 or Tab 10.1)... So Android Jelly has made a dramatic improvement in speed, but still even a budget WP phone will run smoother then any premium Android device, because is just the way Android is..

Another gameplay video

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And if speed is the most important thing, buy iPad, Windows device, but never Android. There is no Android device yet that runs smoothly and probably won't be anytime soon. So Archos is smooth only compared by Android standards, that you don't have to make a coffee every single time then clicking next link or turning magazine page (because you had with 101 G9 or Tab 10.1)... So Android Jelly has made a dramatic improvement in speed, but still even a budget WP phone will run smoother then any premium Android device, because is just the way Android is..
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I think I have to agree with you. I am surprised a cheap WP tablet to be perfectly smooth when even nexus 10 have some lags... I like android but this thing is SIMPLY WRONG design. There are no possible excuses. I am so pissed off about this I am seriously thinking to switch to other systems.
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I've got second super cheap chinese tablet for ~$121, same chipset 1.6Ghz and Android 4.1, the only difference is 8 screen with 1024x768 resolution. It seems like games and OS runs a bit smoother than on Archos 97, though this is not something unexpected, because lower resolution puts less load on CPU and GPU.

Think maybe the link is wrong? It seems to be the A86 not A85. How's the wifi away from router?

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Think maybe the link is wrong? It seems to be the A86 not A85. How's the wifi away from router?
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Title and description doesn't match real item. Though link is correct and real name with specs are like shown on the box.
The price went up to $144.99 last week too. Guess because it's clear now that $120 was a crazy good deal for device like this.

some thoughts
I think when you do some gaming, the battery drains really fast, within a few hours totally flat. Watching youtube is 4 hours max.
Somebody knows how to root it ? I hate the ads, and want to put a hosts file to block'em, and put other tweaks for JB (build.prop and init.d scripts)
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Just to let you guys know, and warn you not to get the Archos 97 Titanium HD, it's that bad, i don't know what to do with it. i will try to sell it as a second hand and loose money on it. i bought it 5 days ago....
the problems with this device:
1. WIFI is very very slow and reception almost doesn't exists ! you will not be able to get a signal farther than 3m from the router.
2. HD ? Retina ? are you kidding me the device is on Normal mode (half of retina res.) and works sort of OK but still not as fast as expected from a dual core 1.6GHZ CPU with quad core GPU !- SHAME on you Archos.
Putting the device in HD mode, Forget about it, your device will flicker like hell and the lags becomes epic !
IMHO, the worst is the Archos knows about this and doesn't issue a recall or a solution to their customers. this is definitely the last time i will buy Archos for me they are a bunch of thieves because they know about their defective product and they keep selling it.
I feel like it's my obligation to post this message in all the relevant forums, to warn other suckers from falling in Archos trap.
Let me know what you think about this device, i'm going to the store tomorrow and will try to give it back.
"IPAD killer" really ?

predatorftp said:
Just to let you guys know, and warn you not to get the Archos 97 Titanium HD, it's that bad, i don't know what to do with it. i will try to sell it as a second hand and loose money on it. i bought it 5 days ago....
the problems with this device:
1. WIFI is very very slow and reception almost doesn't exists ! you will not be able to get a signal farther than 3m from the router.
2. HD ? Retina ? are you kidding me the device is on Normal mode (half of retina res.) and works sort of OK but still not as fast as expected from a dual core 1.6GHZ CPU with quad core GPU !- SHAME on you Archos.
Putting the device in HD mode, Forget about it, your device will flicker like hell and the lags becomes epic !
IMHO, the worst is the Archos knows about this and doesn't issue a recall or a solution to their customers. this is definitely the last time i will buy Archos for me they are a bunch of thieves because they know about their defective product and they keep selling it.
I feel like it's my obligation to post this message in all the relevant forums, to warn other suckers from falling in Archos trap.
Let me know what you think about this device, i'm going to the store tomorrow and will try to give it back.
"IPAD killer" really ?
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They are making an retina less version called 97b
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Viiwok Deva HMD - Mobile Gaming

Hi,
My name is Dragos and I'm the founder and senior designer of Viiwok, a startup which builds VR adapters and controllers.
More specifically we're currently in the final testing rounds of the first mobile HMD in the world. It's basically a hybrid tablet adapter with integrated, discrete headtracking sensors (as in not using the tablet's gyro/accelerometer sensors).
What it does is letting you slide in any 7" tablet and wirelessly displaying stereographic 3D video feed from the computer. It's basically a mobile Oculus Rift and a future proof product as well, since we're not constrained of resolution and hardware issues - because you can always use the latest and most powerful tablet at your disposal. The headtracking has basically zero latency and the FOV is about 120 degrees, using specially designed aspheric lenses with a 2" diameter for each eye. Besides native 3D support in certain titles (Crytek titles made with Cryengine, DOOM 3 BFG, etc.), we can also use TriDef for realtime side-by-side 3D rendering of currently unsupported games.
While gaming is our main scope, the HMD could be also used for virtual tourism and landscaping, in medicine (disabled or severely handicapped persons) or CAD design. Our next project to be launched is an omnidirectional treadmill which detects your body movements in real time (walking, jumping, crouching), much like a Kinnect, but without the back-facing and latency constraints.
Right now we're using Gamepad THD and Kainy for the video feed, but also Limelight for native Shield streaming ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...505510&page=15 ) while also developing our own video streaming solution in house.
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Here are a couple of pictures with the 3D printed prototype. Of course, the final design will be much more streamlined and ergonomic.
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What is this?
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What is this?
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It's a head mounted, 3D display. You can stream games to it from the PC and see them in 3D. For virtual reality applications and games.

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It's a head mounted, 3D display. You can stream games to it from the PC and see them in 3D. For virtual reality applications and games.
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Do i need a great powered PC for this? Can i find It on Amazon?
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Do i need a great powered PC for this? Can i find It on Amazon?
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You need a good wifi connection (802.11n) and a medium-to-high computer. An Nvidia Kepler GPU is fine.
Basically, if you can play your games now, you don't need a new computer for the Deva HMD.
The HMD only receives the video-feed from the computer. You need a 7" tablet with 802.11n Wifi and a nice GPU (Tegra 3, Qualcomm 600/800, etc.).

No offense friend but I wouldnt want to put that scary thing on my head.

haha :laugh: fair enough. Would you put an Oculus Rift to your head ?

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You need a good wifi connection (802.11n) and a medium-to-high computer. An Nvidia Kepler GPU is fine.
Basically, if you can play your games now, you don't need a new computer for the Deva HMD.
The HMD only receives the video-feed from the computer. You need a 7" tablet with 802.11n Wifi and a nice GPU (Tegra 3, Qualcomm 600/800, etc.).
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i haven't enough money for an nvidia kepler in my notebook there is a gt 520m ;so can i try also with a tablet or smartphone?
i have a note 2 but it has mali 400 mp and i don't know if is enough great powered for this...
i and my family are going to buy an ipad air for christmas... Can i try with that?Is there any app? For the power i think that the ipad has the best gpu for the mobile,i believe also now is faster than xbox 360 and play 3.

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haha :laugh: fair enough. Would you put an Oculus Rift to your head ?
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Hell no ))) I wouldnt want to put anything on my head even Google Glass which is overrated for that price tag I think. I mean if it would look like regular Sun Glasses without some thingy that looks like Universal Soldier ))) Maybe I would put it on. And as for is it Enough to have Decent Tablet? Well depends if you want to play Chilidish Android games, which have bad graphics compared to PS3 or XBOX or PC, due to the Lack of DX and OpenGL then you are all set ) but I think its better to wait till TEGRA5 Devices DX11 support full OpenGL and 6 times faster than PS3 GPU... But you have to wait till Summer 2014 and for some games that will be made for that Architecture ( So I wouldnt rush to any new Tablet right now, unless of course your budget is big enough to afford buying a newest tablet every 6 month )

I can certainly say this won't be "the first" HMD using a mobile device. I know VRase has demoed units at various conventions/conferences and has some (supposed) VR industry connections. It had a successful kickstarter, but now we are waiting on the actual commercial units. They are promising they will look better than their 3D printed prototypes (which weren't that bad).
Still, more competition in this market is good. The problem is getting content to render in SbS format (Side by Side). Especially for pre-existing mobile games, less difficult for streamed desktop stuff (easy to tell GPU how to do special render cases through injection or driver manipulation).
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I can certainly say this won't be "the first" HMD using a mobile device. I know VRase has demoed units at various conventions/conferences and has some (supposed) VR industry connections. It had a successful kickstarter, but now we are waiting on the actual commercial units. They are promising they will look better than their 3D printed prototypes (which weren't that bad).
Still, more competition in this market is good. The problem is getting content to render in SbS format (Side by Side). Especially for pre-existing mobile games, less difficult for streamed desktop stuff (easy to tell GPU how to do special render cases through injection or driver manipulation).
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I wouldn't call Vrase a HMD, they're in a totally different ballpark. Vrase is just an adapter for smartphones. They aren't intended for VR and gaming, the smartphones have screens too small for the needed FOV, and they don't have integrated sensors, meaning you must use FreePie or other 3rd party 6DOF solution. You could use Vrase for basic SBS movie watching and AR (to some extent).
I know because they're spanish, like us. They're our colleagues but they aren't aiming in the same direction. They're more orrientated towards the casual user (movies, leisure), we're going for the gaming part.
Which leads me to your second preocupations, SBS mobile gaming. AFAIK there aren't many mobile shooters worth their salt at the moment, because the cappabilities are not here. Mobile GPUs are weak still, and untill this summer when Logan makes its appearance, we're going to stick to PC streaming.
Things will change, and will change fast in this VR/mobile gaming sector, and our belief is that our product is prepared to help you fill the gap.

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I wouldn't call Vrase a HMD, they're in a totally different ballpark. Vrase is just an adapter for smartphones. They aren't intended for VR and gaming, the smartphones have screens too small for the needed FOV, and they don't have integrated sensors, meaning you must use FreePie or other 3rd party 6DOF solution. You could use Vrase for basic SBS movie watching and AR (to some extent).
I know because they're spanish, like us. They're our colleagues but they aren't aiming in the same direction. They're more orrientated towards the casual user (movies, leisure), we're going for the gaming part.
Which leads me to your second preocupations, SBS mobile gaming. AFAIK there aren't many mobile shooters worth their salt at the moment, because the cappabilities are not here. Mobile GPUs are weak still, and untill this summer when Logan makes its appearance, we're going to stick to PC streaming.
Things will change, and will change fast in this VR/mobile gaming sector, and our belief is that our product is prepared to help you fill the gap.
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Okay... wait. You say that this is an HMD, but VRase isn't due to the fact you need to use a phone screen. When clearly the difference for yours appears to be (at first glance) that you use a 7" tablet. I get that you have some integrated high-precision sensors, which obviously you wouldn't have if you were using VRase. Even using a simple solution like VRase you can do similar things with that. Yes, you can watch SBS formatted movies. You could also use software to request a GPU to render 3D in SBS and then connect using Splashtop, Kainy, LimeLight, etc. You would be correct in that it wouldn't have head-tracking though (at least not without extra 3rd party sensors or using some software to forward the laggy/innaccurate sensors from the phone/tablet gyros or accelerometers). Still, both end up being Head Mounted Displays, whether they have frills or not.
I truly do wish for you to prove me wrong. If information is available for public consumption, what differentiates your product from others existing in the market? Is it basically just similar to Occulus Rift, but with a wirelessly connected screen powered by a 7 inch tablet (and thereby... upgradeable)? Do you plan to push for public availability prior to commercial release of the Rift?
I get you and agree that mobile gaming horsepower really isn't quite there yet, and the content _REALLY_ isn't there. There are maybe six or so competent shooters out there that were originally programmed for mobile (IE: not counting Quake recodes). As an aside, I do wonder if there a way to runtime modify OpenGL ES calls to force SBS rendering in such apps. I know ChainFire managed to have a Root-required piece of software that allowed for platform specific (Tegra-only, Adreno-only, etc) optimized games to run pretty well on other chipsets. However, that is neither here nor there.

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Okay... wait. You say that this is an HMD, but VRase isn't due to the fact you need to use a phone screen. When clearly the difference for yours appears to be (at first glance) that you use a 7" tablet. I get that you have some integrated high-precision sensors, which obviously you wouldn't have if you were using VRase. Even using a simple solution like VRase you can do similar things with that. Yes, you can watch SBS formatted movies. You could also use software to request a GPU to render 3D in SBS and then connect using Splashtop, Kainy, LimeLight, etc. You would be correct in that it wouldn't have head-tracking though (at least not without extra 3rd party sensors or using some software to forward the laggy/innaccurate sensors from the phone/tablet gyros or accelerometers). Still, both end up being Head Mounted Displays, whether they have frills or not.
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Hey, I'm not trying to enter an argumente here with you man If you consider the two similar enough, fair play. They are, in more ways than one. The differences are subtle enough for the average user - size, scope, sensors, etc. As I said before, Vrase is for the casual user, our product would be more towards gaiming.
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I truly do wish for you to prove me wrong. If information is available for public consumption, what differentiates your product from others existing in the market? Is it basically just similar to Occulus Rift, but with a wirelessly connected screen powered by a 7 inch tablet (and thereby... upgradeable)? Do you plan to push for public availability prior to commercial release of the Rift?
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You have to take into consideration that the "market" for these products is very much in its infancy. You have the Oculus Rift and then you have the others (Vrase, Durovis Dive, InfiniteEye, Viiwok Deva) which are adapters by all means. Our goal is to achieve full mobility, without that tangled mess. So there are about 4-5 products, out of which only the Rift is out (even though there isn't a commercial version yet) and the Vrase just finished its Kickstarter a couple of months ago. So there isn't much of a competetion between ourselfes. We're all just trying to push VR out in the open.
Yes, we are going to start a crowdfunding campaign this weekend, with delivery starting in April.
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I get you and agree that mobile gaming horsepower really isn't quite there yet, and the content _REALLY_ isn't there. There are maybe six or so competent shooters out there that were originally programmed for mobile (IE: not counting Quake recodes). As an aside, I do wonder if there a way to runtime modify OpenGL ES calls to force SBS rendering in such apps. I know ChainFire managed to have a Root-required piece of software that allowed for platform specific (Tegra-only, Adreno-only, etc) optimized games to run pretty well on other chipsets. However, that is neither here nor there.
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I totally agree. Mobile SBS gaming isn't here now, and one can only hope for things to change this year. Maybe products like ours will help push things in that direction. Android exclusive content is made of movies and a number of tech-demos here and there (most from Durovis, using Unity engine). So we're focusing to PC titles for the moment, going the streaming way.

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And as this section is for the Nvidia shield it does not belong here.
Best fit will probably be Accessories
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