[Q] HOX Serial numbers - how do I know if the device I'm getting has the WiFi prob? - HTC One X

Hey guys.
In the market for the One X. Thing is, I don't wanna get one with the WiFi issue. Is there info somewhere on the serial numbers of the bad batch of phones? Is there any way to know that the one I'm getting is good or not?

max_3000 said:
Hey guys.
In the market for the One X. Thing is, I don't wanna get one with the WiFi issue. Is there info somewhere on the serial numbers of the bad batch of phones? Is there any way to know that the one I'm getting is good or not?
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As of a tally taken two weeks ago there were 160 people in the Wi-Fi thread that reported their phone was suffering from the issue. If you double it for people with the issue not documenting it in the thread, that's 360 phones out of about 5K owners on the forum. That's less than 10%.
If you look at the pictures of the phone disassembled, the issue appears to be from how the phone is seated in the chassis at the factory. The connectors are on the body of the phone while the antennas they are connecting to are on the chassis. In the Wi-Fi thread, people are told to "press on the back of the phone to see if it affects the Wi-Fi signal." The connectors use dynamic tension vs. springs. Since the part of the phone where the connectors are located wouldn't experience compression under typical use, that's an acceptable design choice. People artificially creating compression to "test" their phones could be causing the problem their testing for. The fix HTC is putting in place is simply spacers to prevent compression; real and artificial (people pressing on their phones). I have an early March-build phone that's been dropped six times and the Wi-Fi's as good today as when I got it. It's better than the i9100 it replaced and a G-Tab 10.1 I’m still using.
In anything mass produced, precision of assembly improves as more are built. So you could make the assumption later built phones are less likely to have defects. You’ll see references to HT23 and the like. The “3” in HT23 signifies “March” and so on. But the design of the Wi-Fi connectors aren't being changed and, based on the number of devices affected, you have a far greater chance of getting a phone with great Wi-Fi than one with a problem. There are plenty of differing opinions so educate yourself and make your own decision.

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As of a tally taken two weeks ago there were 160 people in the Wi-Fi thread that reported their phone was suffering from the issue. If you double it for people with the issue not documenting it in the thread, that's 360 phones out of about 5K owners on the forum. That's less than 10%.
If you look at the pictures of the phone disassembled, the issue appears to be from how the phone is seated in the chassis at the factory. The connectors are on the body of the phone while the antennas they are connecting to are on the chassis. In the Wi-Fi thread, people are told to "press on the back of the phone to see if it affects the Wi-Fi signal." The connectors use dynamic tension vs. springs. Since the part of the phone where the connectors are located wouldn't experience compression under typical use, that's an acceptable design choice. People artificially creating compression to "test" their phones could be causing the problem their testing for. The fix HTC is putting in place is simply spacers to prevent compression; real and artificial (people pressing on their phones). I have an early March-build phone that's been dropped six times and the Wi-Fi's as good today as when I got it. It's better than the i9100 it replaced and a G-Tab 10.1 I’m still using.
In anything mass produced, precision of assembly improves as more are built. So you could make the assumption later built phones are less likely to have defects. You’ll see references to HT23 and the like. The “3” in HT23 signifies “March” and so on. But the design of the Wi-Fi connectors aren't being changed and, based on the number of devices affected, you have a far greater chance of getting a phone with great Wi-Fi than one with a problem. There are plenty of differing opinions so educate yourself and make your own decision.
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Thanks a lot! Really appreciate the info.

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[Q] Signal drop (phone network, not wifi)

Hi,
I have had my HOX for 3 weeks now and since yesterday (so, not a new thing), I keep losing the signal in my appartment, in some places outside. Oddly enough, signal is OK (tho just 3-4 bars) in my office.
1. Could this be related to the WIFI antenna issue even tho it's not WIFI issue? In other words, is there a chance that by fixing the WIFI antenna issue, I can get solve this?
2. If not, what are my other options? The garanty is already voided so I cannot send it to HTC for repair (voided by an "unofficial repair center" after the screen got smashed by dropping it from like 1m... - it's very possible that the fall or their repair broke something else, but the repair was already 2 weeks ago)
Thanks for your help!
First thing I'd ask is are you rooted? Have you been playing with radios recently?
If not, the next thing I'd look at is trying to find someone else with a micro-sim, and asking to borrow it. If they still get a good signal on their network on your phone, it might be your sim card. I had a faulty one once which just started dropping network like you describe. It can happen.
If their sim card also shows poor reception, you might have an aerial issue caused by the unofficial repair centre opening the phone up. (Although from the feedback on the WiFi issue thread HTC have worrying repair standards too).
If you can't find another micro-sim, just try finding someone on the same network. This phone (when working) has excellent network reception (better than my previous Desire S) so if a side-by-side comparison shows a big difference in signal strength, again I'd think about getting the sim replaced.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.android.telnet&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImRlLmFuZHJvaWQudGVsbmV0Il0.
If your replacement sim still has the same problem, then I'd consider opening the phone up as per the video guide in the WiFi Issue thread in the general section. Seems to be quite easy if you are careful. It is unlikely that the same aerial for the WiFi is also the 3G one, but I've looked at the tear down pictures, and can't read chinese! If i find out which one it is, I'll update this post. If not, just check all the connections.
Hi,
I have also been having this network drop issue but only near my office. The reason I think is that my office is between two towers and every now and then it tries to balance the traffic on the networks and hence keeps disconnecting devices from one to connect to the other one... However, I have cut out my normal sim into a micro sim and that was done by the guys at the shop from where I bought the device and they had said that if there are any issues, then please order a proper micro sim and use it....
I think that might also be the problem.....
levtrp savans
All,
After checking that my SIM card wasn't in cause (used a friend's HTC One X to test my SIM card and test with his), I broke open the case and saw the problem.
The problem is the damn design of those antenna contact! I saw probably around 10 of those small metal piece that are supposed to be a bit "up" and somehow touch the contact area on the back cover.
I found that 2 of them (in two different pairs, they all seem to be in pair to create a closed circuit I suppose) were a little bit lower than their counterpart, so with a flat screwdriver, put them upright, closed the case and voila, I am enjoying network with full bars since yesterday.
If the issue comes back (and it probabl will, if they got bent the first time it probably means that the metal already was bent beyond its elastic deformation area), I'll probably end up buying a soldering iron a add some patch of silver to increase the height of the contact zones. That's .... just lame I am sure they had a good reason to do that, but seriously!?
Guillaume
Glad you got to the bottom of it. Yeah I think the design choice is forced from having the main body of the phone slide in at an angle into the outer case. If the two parts just clamped together like a more traditional phone build, then they perhaps could have used a different approach.
I'm putting off opening mine up (I have the dreaded WiFi drop issue) as my current case puts just enough pressure on the screen to act like a permanent squeeze, halting my problem.
Would be interested to know if the problem reoccurs like you said it might. Keep us posted.

Could interference be causing our screen issues?

Read all of this. Go to page 4 and read about Charger Interference.
http://www.silabs.com/Support Documents/TechnicalDocs/Minimizing-Touchscreen-EMI.pdf
That''s nice and all, but that would only cause issues in the device-charging case. Since people seem to have issues in any situation, no, that isn't the problem.
Software is the most likely cause, since the latest update made my previously perfect touch Nexus 7 have the same issues as widely reported.
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That''s nice and all, but that would only cause issues in the device-charging case. Since people seem to have issues in any situation, no, that isn't the problem.
Software is the most likely cause, since the latest update made my previously perfect touch Nexus 7 have the same issues as widely reported.
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So explain how mine and many other people that will find out soon or later that there tablet works great on hard surfaces and soon as you lay it down on a couch or pillow or any cloth type material they will have screen issues. If it was software my screen would work the same all the time.
So if my screen has dead spots when using it on my couch then I need some couch drivers right. Not lol
Its caused by some type of interference.
The software is causing less sensitivity so its blocking some of the excessive noise from your finger as it grounds itself to the screen. So when you hold the tablet or its plugged in it has a true ground at all times that why it works great.
Plus if it was software don't you think a company like Google would of fixed this issue already. There running around with there heads cut off looking for ideas to keep us from suing there but holes.
ASUS develops and maintains of the low level software, not Google. Google only provides the Android OS and some creative input. This explains the delays, as Taiwanese companies are notorious for poor software support.
As you alluded to, the issues MAY be some kind of interference. With enough investigation, this can be mitigated through software. I work for a company that manufactures devices with 3rd party hardware very similar to the Nexus 7, and you'd be surprised how much errata we get for botched IC's that we then have to code around. Almost anything can be mitigated with software.
Either way, I highly doubt it has anything to do with charging. That link you provided talks about capacitive coupling from the switching transformer inside the power supply, how could this cause issues when the device isn't being charged?
In saying that, you have to remember that the number of users with actual issues is VERY small. Forget about threads on here for statistics, as this is where people come to moan about it.
Like I said, my touchscreen issues are clearly software related as it was flawless before the latest update JSS15R.
lespaulman67 said:
I know for a fact this is the whole issue we are having. Its the Wireless charger, First Gen did not have this. You have to have great protection for these new touch screens. Adding a wireless charger is dumb as hell. That's why its causing problems on different type of surfaces.
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Well, people with N7 first gen have touchscreen issues also despite not having the wireless charger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ypEh4vOVkI
sfhub said:
Well, people with N7 first gen have touchscreen issues also despite not having the wireless charger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ypEh4vOVkI
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That is true
I wished Asus would get there head in the game. lol
My Nexus is working perfect with no fixes. It just has issues on pillows and couches now for some reason.
If you want to experiment, it would be as easy as popping off the back and disconnecting the inductive coil.....

Will Samsung Ever Give A Technical Reason

As to why phones were "exploding". It seems the original reason they had of a battery manufacturing fault is now incorrect and it seems theres a more inherent design fault? Incredible that the biggest phone manufacturer in the world, with all their engineers couldn't figure it out.
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As to why phones were "exploding". It seems the original reason they had of a battery manufacturing fault is now incorrect and it seems theres a more inherent design fault? Incredible that the biggest phone manufacturer in the world, with all their engineers couldn't figure it out.
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They either haven't figured it out, or they HAVE, and it's something in the hardware (motherboard, etc) that it's too late/costly to reengineer.
Read a story that mentioned it might be the SoC, designed it to push more power to the battery then it could end up handling. Really liked this phone.
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Read a story that mentioned it might be the SoC, designed it to push more power to the battery then it could end up handling. Really liked this phone.
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If it was that wouldn't they just push a update to limit the fast charging? Or the soc I gotta assume that's all handled by software.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the battery was the smallest and crammed into a tiny space, more than any other phone. There's got to be something in that, perhaps any sort of pressure on the back was causing some sort of battery failure.
All sorts of theories today. Too thin of separators in the batteries. Curve edge of the screen causing it. Fast charging. Some new battery fault etc. I don't think Samsung found the problem.
They better. I hate them so much now... They wasted months of my life, wanting and not getting this phone. Some of you had at least a chance to test it out feel it.... All I got is 10 min. with demo unit. If they keep it to them self a lot of ppl will think they have no clue and the same problem could happen to S8. What phone to get now until S8E is out. I need excellent maniera, water resistance and of course big screen...
It sounds like they don't know yet and can't replicate the problem in their testing. But I don't know if we really know much of the whole story. There could be multiple reasons we never get a clear answer. I think the recall was forced upon them not only to limit litigation, but from the governmental agencies. It is sad that by far the best overall phone ever made to date has been killed off. There really is no other phone that combines all the great things the N7 has going for it.
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All sorts of theories today. Too thin of separators in the batteries. Curve edge of the screen causing it. Fast charging. Some new battery fault etc. I don't think Samsung found the problem.
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I agree with you. Canning the entire product is such a drastic move. If they knew what the problem was, ANY fix would surely cost less to engineer in, than they huge damage to their reputation, to their competitive position in the market (no flagship product available) and the hard cash costs of product write off.
But if they just can't figure out what's causing this problem, what could they possibly do? Could they say "you know, we don't know what the problem is, but just keep using them and sorry about the occasional fires". Obviously not. How about do *another* recall and risk Version3 phones catching fire too? Clearly they can't do that either.
Then consider the following: This problem is *rare* - 1 in 100,000 units perhaps? And it didn't show up in any pre-production tests nor QA checks. Add in the fact that they thought it was the battery, and then found out that it was not.
All this leads me to believe that they haven't yet figured out with 100% certainty what the problem is.
It must be something that renders the design faulty meaning they'd have to remanufacture the device to fix it something that probably generate quite a wait time for people to exchange it. So canning it is a better option.
The two things I think are most suspect is
a) overheating either via charging or just using the SoC to the max and causing heating issues.
b) casing is designed in such a way that puts undue pressure on the battery.
Either way it's a expensive fix, sure you could firmware update it to slow the charge speed or down clock the processor but then you've got a whole other issue of false advertising. You paid for X and got Y.
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evo4g63t said:
It must be something that renders the design faulty meaning they'd have to remanufacture the device to fix it something that probably generate quite a wait time for people to exchange it. So canning it is a better option.
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Not necessarily.
As I said above, what if they can't be certain what the problem is? What should they do then? The only option in those circumstances would be the course of action they have taken.
This is imho the most likely scenario. Clearly, they didn't think there was anything wrong with it when it was launched, and after extensive r&d and product testing. They thought the product was fine.
And now they are faced with trying to identify *with certainty* what's causing 1 unit in around 100,000 to fail, when all they get back to test are charred remains. They could not risk a second failed recall, based on not being 100% sure what the problem is, so their ONLY option in those circumstances would be to withdraw the product.
One things for sure, when they eventually do find out what caused it, a whole department is getting sacked! I bet there's a lot of nervous Samsung design heads just now.
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It sounds like they don't know yet and can't replicate the problem in their testing. But I don't know if we really know much of the whole story. There could be multiple reasons we never get a clear answer. I think the recall was forced upon them not only to limit litigation, but from the governmental agencies. It is sad that by far the best overall phone ever made to date has been killed off. There really is no other phone that combines all the great things the N7 has going for it.
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Now they have 2 million phones they can test and replicate the problem. I foresee huge electric bills for them charging and discharging 2,000,000 phones.
Chippy_boy said:
Not necessarily.
As I said above, what if they can't be certain what the problem is? What should they do then? The only option in those circumstances would be the course of action they have taken.
This is imho the most likely scenario. Clearly, they didn't think there was anything wrong with it when it was launched, and after extensive r&d and product testing. They thought the product was fine.
And now they are faced with trying to identify *with certainty* what's causing 1 unit in around 100,000 to fail, when all they get back to test are charred remains. They could not risk a second failed recall, based on not being 100% sure what the problem is, so their ONLY option in those circumstances would be to withdraw the product.
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Another theory is that in the first instance they jumped over a few tests to get the phone out before the iPhone 7, then in the first recall they didn't actually fix anything, just did a firmware update (how else would they have replacement devices within 1 WEEK?). The update turned out not to be enough, whatever was wrong with a certain percentage wasn't fixed by making them charge slower or less.
And now you can't really do a second recall and expect people to trust the same device. They are saving face, call it a loss, and move on.
Do any of you think that this is full of crap though? Samsung has NOT completed their investigation yet, and until they do, for all anyone knows, the devices could have failed due to mistreatment by their users. Out of FOUR MILLION phones, only 35 explode, and of the replacement units only 7? Lets say the first generation was bad, and only count the replacements. 7 out of 4 million. That is a 0.000175% chance of your phone exploding. So, they discontinued the line for less than an even 1% chance, without waiting for the investigation to be completed? COME ON. PLUS, some of the people who had exploded note 7s REFUSED to return them.
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Do any of you think that this is full of crap though? Samsung has NOT completed their investigation yet, and until they do, for all anyone knows, the devices could have failed due to mistreatment by their users. Out of FOUR MILLION phones, only 35 explode, and of the replacement units only 7? Lets say the first generation was bad, and only count the replacements. 7 out of 4 million. That is a 0.000175% chance of your phone exploding. So, they discontinued the line for less than an even 1% chance, without waiting for the investigation to be completed? COME ON. PLUS, some of the people who had exploded note 7s REFUSED to return them.
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What I want to know, of the ones that have malfunctioned, were they damaged prior? Dropped, thrown, etc. That would definetly play into the battery cells being smashed together regardless if they are on or off. I don't buy into the heat thing entirely, because I've taken mine into the sauna 3 times and it's still fine. I'm debating what to do. I love this phone. My first note. I'll be near a best buy Friday, so I'll go in and see if anything pegs my interest and goes from there. I'd be happier if I knew when they were going to release something with a stylus. Absolutely love that thing.
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What I want to know, of the ones that have malfunctioned, were they damaged prior? Dropped, thrown, etc. That would definetly play into the battery cells being smashed together regardless if they are on or off. I don't buy into the heat thing entirely, because I've taken mine into the sauna 3 times and it's still fine. I'm debating what to do. I love this phone. My first note. I'll be near a best buy Friday, so I'll go in and see if anything pegs my interest and goes from there. I'd be happier if I knew when they were going to release something with a stylus. Absolutely love that thing.
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I also say theres another possibility. There's been incidents with USB-C cables in the past.. cheap cables.. (the kind you buy in gas stations and pharmacies). They've caused the ports to get damaged and devices (of all types) to explode because wires inside are hooked up incorrectly. How do we know that this wasn't caused by someone using a faulty third party accessory?
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I also say theres another possibility. There's been incidents with USB-C cables in the past.. cheap cables.. (the kind you buy in gas stations and pharmacies). They've caused the ports to get damaged and devices (of all types) to explode because wires inside are hooked up incorrectly. How do we know that this wasn't caused by someone using a faulty third party accessory?
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My point exactly. That was the rumor the first time. I got the Samsung cables, so I'm not worried about that. Just really wonder if dropping them, damaged the case, which put pressure on the battery and short circuited it.
Here's the thing, SAMSUNG themselves cannot replicate the situation. No matter HOW they tamper with the phone. I guarantee you they're not using these bad third party cables, or trying to operate a device with partially compromised firmware from a failed root attempt, or other things they tell their end users NOT TO DO. I guarantee you they're testing the phone (other than dropping it and water tests) within the specs of what they tell users is okay to do with the phone.
Here's the other thing, the video of a 'note 7' supposedly catching fire in someones home... 1: its in black and white, 2: its a security camera in someone's living room. 3: YOU NEVER SEE THE ACTUAL PHONE ON THE CAMERA. For all we know she's holding a smoking piece of toast. Plus, consider that an overheating li-ion battery is a chemical reaction and that smoke usually means the battery has been punctured. HOW and WHY is she still holding it?
In hindsight, considering my Note 4 would overheat DRASTICALLY on the Gear VR Innovator Edition so much so that the Phone would produce a message to warn to let it cool down, Samsung Engineering should have seen this coming.
Maybe it was a Godsend, INTRUSIVE IRIS Scanner and all.
Or maybe it WAS a conspiracy, like nothing really was at fault, the powers that be saw something in the Note 7 they were not in favor of letting the public/consumer get their hands on.
We may never know. But rest assured something seems not quite right about the whole fiasco. Even a social engineering experiment.
Interesting read guys... I have my note 7 now for 6 weeks. Had the first one too before the switch. Both of them worked/work fine. No overheating. I am not sure if only exinos cpu variants are catching fire. Over here in germany there are no fires at all. It is sad that this phone is canned, and for the remaining working ones, there will never be a a software update at all. This phone is by far the best phone ever. Truly.
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Note 7 recall & media distributed information

When you look into the Note 7 recall and all of the information we have available, you have news outlets taking a biased point of view on the units. They have put words into both Samsung and the CPSC's mouth saying that the recalls are MANDATORY, that the Note 7 production has been permanently halted, and that the issue is the battery itself. In the meantime, Samsung themselves have announced that they CANNOT replicate the issue themselves, and the changing out of the battery would generally suggest that it was not the battery causing the problem. Plus, due to media coverage the issue has been severely exaggerated. According to the CPSC, only 96 units out of 1.9 million units sold in the US have been reported as overheating. In the two months since the release of the phone that is a 0.005% failure rate. That means the phone has a 99.995% chance of being perfectly fine. In terms of normal production, that would be considered a success by most companies. Samsung also has not announced anywhere on their site that production has been halted permenantly. They've said temporarily while they investigate. The investigation is NOT COMPLETE.
Now, if you take the battery out of the equation as the primary point of failure, there are three other points of possible failure that would be the most common cause to make the battery ignite. Those are software tampering, hardware tampering/error and the USB-C port/accessories.
Software: a partially flashed firmware could easily damage the charge rate systems to cause damage to the battery itself or damage the battery's protection board to the point where it can cause problems.
Hardware Tampering/Error: How many idiots have you seen on youtube sinking their Note7s to the bottom of a lake/river/pier, or drop testing them from heights that they are not rated for. Then count the # of people who replicate what other people do on youtube.. (Ghost pepper challenges anyone?)
USB-C Port/Accessories: USB-C has been under some controversy itself lately. Cheap USB cables have been sold that when used on devices damage not only the USB-C port, but also the power systems due to the cables being improperly wired. As well, the Note7 comes with USB-C accessories, one of which is a USB-A to a USB-C port adapter. This is used to use the unit AS a backup battery, or to attach flash drives to the unit and NOT to charge the unit. Many people have USB-A to USB-A cables. Imagine if someone used one of the faulty USB-C cables to charge the unit, or tried to use that adapter with a USB-A to USB-A cable to charge the unit. With only 96 cases reported of overheating, it's well within the number of people who don't understand technology enough to get the proper cables and/or use the unit up to spec. If the cable is not CERTIFIED by the USB-IF it could very well be a bad cable and have caused the issue.
What I'm saying here is look at the proof, look at the history of the devices you're attaching to the phone, look at human behavior, look at what the media's doing. We have people in this world who actually think TRUMP would make a good president. We have people in this world who snort condoms up their noses. It makes it completely possible that all 96 reported cases are 96 cases of users doing the wrong thing with their phones. It is very likely that out of 1.9 Million units sold in the US (according to CPSC), 96 of the people who bought Note 7s are simply idiots. (Plus there's a video of an idiot supposedly holding a Note 7 while the phone is catching fire. When a LI-Ion Battery overheats you can't hold it. not in your hands without receiving severe burns. Information below attached so you can see it all directly from the sources for the information on the Note 7 instead of from media locations.
Also, don't forget, some of these people with the phones who have overheated REFUSE to return them to Samsung for investigation. There is only one reason to refuse to turn in a destroyed device. If you tampered with it yourself.
Samsung Recall Info (showing its voluntary): http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
Verizon Recall Info (showing they're still investigating as of 10/10): https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/samsung-galaxy-note7-recall-faqs/
CPSC Information: https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2017/S...-Additional-Incidents-with-Replacement-Phones
USB-C Cable Information: http://www.androidcentral.com/usb-c-problem-isnt-going-away-anytime-soon
More USB-C Info: http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-find-safe-usb-type-c-cables
Update: Just spoke with a supervisor at Verizon, and they are AWARE that this is a blown out of proportion recall and issue. As of the current moment, they are supporting the phone INDEFINITELY, until Samsung verifies what the problem is and completes the investigation. Then depending on the investigation result, they will decide what to do. I encourage people to call their carriers and talk to supervisors who have more information.
I ansolutely agree with you, around 100 devices in 2 million +, is better than many other quality standards around, and as you pointed out, many people handle devices in very bad ways
Well said. This is why I'm not getting rid of mine. BTW, you accidently put billion instead of million the first time.
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Maybe the whole thing is a conspiracy by another company like LG or Apple. Paying people to do this to their phones then paying the media to overhype and overexaterate the whole thing. I don't think it's a coincidence this happened to the best phone Samsung has ever made. Let me rephrase that, the best phone ever created.
Think about this, how rediculous would it be if samsung found out it was an uncertified cable causing the entire problem, and that they took a multi-billion dollar loss over the cable. This is why all of this crap should not be happening until the investigation concludes.
Updated first post with: Also, don't forget, some of these people with the phones who have overheated REFUSE to return them to Samsung for investigation. There is only one reason to refuse to turn in a destroyed device. If you tampered with it yourself.
Fixed billion replaced with million
Update with information from Verizon in first post.
NOW we're talking! Finally my kinda people! Where have you been the past couple of days? Now the dust is settling and the initial "shock" has subsided people are starting to think with clarity. Excuse the pun, but 'Think Different'
Keep it going, I LIKE this!! I was getting so lonely here getting called a conspiracy nut and such. Thank you my people!
I agree. My phone is perfect and I would keep it except I would like to receive updates and such. At&t told me it has a one year warranty. That I don't have to turn it in. I'm struggling real hard with this. I love this damn phone and nothing else compared to it. I think it's just another case of reefer madness.
My theory is that the playdoh like battery is just in a foil like cover, so it's easily squished. They have mentioned possible assembly problems with squishing it inside the phone being the cause, but I wonder if perhaps a high G drop on a floor might distort it sufficiently that, after a number of charge/discharge cycles, may develop those crystals which will fuse internally between squashed plates causing the battery run away we have all seen.
I doubt it is external to the battery as surely between battery and main phone assembly there will be short circuit protection (generally the metallic canister style batteries have this built in, but with a sealed phone and soft battery, this protection is probably the very first thing the phone battery cable plugs into).
I only dropped my N4 twice, my N7 never (ok, it hit ground inside a Gear VR when my son was being silly), but I have seen others who are far less careful with phones that may have dropped and distorted the battery putty enough to be more prone to internally fusing.
Although at least 2 photos show the phone in (melted) protector cases which should reduce the shock loading, perhaps these ones had the extra squished assembly with the SDI batteries which already had less internal tolerances than the Chinese one?
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Another funny development that was brought up in another thread... The only video of the unit catching fire is a surveillance video from above... where you cannot actually see what device is spewing the smoke. The only reason its believed to be a note 7 is because someone SAID it is.
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finally!! some clarity i have 2 note 7 ... one from the first production and other of the second!... and everything fine ... i never trust samsung chargers..... so i instead use blackberry folding type chargers ... and never experience overheating anything ...
w1n73rf3ll said:
finally!! some clarity i have 2 note 7 ... one from the first production and other of the second!... and everything fine ... i never trust samsung chargers..... so i instead use blackberry folding type chargers ... and never experience overheating anything ...
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The problem is obviously not the charger. I've charged it many times from below 10% all the way to 100 on the samsung unit, and it has never caused a problem. My best guess is that it wont fail because I am using a certified cable.
Perhaps samsung should go the apple route and put a chip in their chargers so only certified chargers work.
With the invention of fast charging technology it is pretty risky to use cheapies.
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USB port and the story about a really bad replacement part

ok, after nearly 5 years of using, i had have problems with the USB port of my N7000.
It was impossible to get a good power contact during recharging my battery.
So i ordered a replacement part for it. So far, so good.
But after replacing, i have only Edge (G2) and no G3/Umts any longer!
Have compared the new one against the old one twice but with the same result.
So i looked into the WWW and found different replacements with the same problem!!!
It looks like, that it is impossible to get the old original quality.
Ok, ~7$ is not expensive, but anyhow! Now i can charge but not surf in the net.
~34KB/s is 10 times less than with H+:silly:
I think, it seems to be a plagiarism with really bad quality.
So be careful if you will buy some (declared as a "original"!) replacement part.
I'm guessing Samsung (or the distributor) does not make the parts anymore so to keep with the demand there are attempts to create more of it by other opportunistic companies.
When replacing the connector you may have bent the connectors for the antenna or forgot to connect them. Check you motherboard brass connectors's health and the celular antenna's cable if it is connected right.
I think this phone being forgotten as so many dev leave and for the part replacement might be non ori at all. Within 5 years I got 4 times replacement for USB port & 3 times internal spraker, normally I let the phone repairman do at phone shop nearest my home. Lately they give discount for regular customer. Speaking about regular customer it also means this phone has nearly R.I.P as I always change the same part of replacement. Last week the 4th times USB replacement. What to do as I am unaffordable to buy new phone.
What are you doing with your phone bro. For all this time I have replaced the usb connector once and the display and this is my only repairs for this phone.
I ran into the same issue.
To my knowledge, there are at least 4 different revisions of the USB charging PCB. Some are incompatible with the device you own, because of regional differences between devices.
I had to buy two, one from china, one locally from a smartphone repair shop owner (cool guy!), as the china one didn't work. Only 1 or 2 bars GPRS when standing right next to the cell tower.
With the one bought locally, I have worse reception than with the original part, but it is very much acceptable and works in at least 90% of all areas I'm in.
Both replacement parts have different model numbers than the original one that was built into my note originally. Some sellers have pictures of another model number, so it suggests, that there at least 4 versions out there.
To further elaborate on my findings:
Two times so far, I experienced one very weird and almost esoterical bug.
This happened both times after reasonably long uptimes on bauners NightOwl 7.1.2 ROM (some version released early 2018).
I have the reception indicator once in the status bar at the top of the screen and one time in the notification area. For some weird mysterical reason, it can happen, that both of these indicators develop their own interpretations of the signal. It might happen, that the status bar will say e.g. H and the notification area will report something like E. The other way around it might happen as well. Telephony is not possible in such situations.
It is very weird and some online searches suggest, that this might be the note itself, not the software. It seems like several of samsungs devices are prone to this problem, not only the n7000. A reboot solves the problem, but I wanted to point this out as I thought the notification area signal reception indicator would merely mirror the status bar reception indicator, that is definitely not the case, so you might want to check for both signal indicators to be more certain about your issues. I'm sure nobody expects this, so a quick heads up.
Greetz

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