S4 vs. Note 2 thoughts - Finale - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

This will be based off the Snap 600 Variant of the S4, Exynos should be the same or perform better.
There are lots of us, who have considered hopping. Many have & many have regretted it while some of us do enjoy the change. Lets ignore the spec battle for a few.
GS4 Pros:
* Easier to Handle
*IR Blaster
*Faster SOC
*Better Camera
*Better LT Support - Due to i9505 roms being compatible with S600 Variants of the device it seems to all be the same until kernel & modem. it means wider support
GS4 Cons:
*Still Laggy on custom Roms/Touchwiz bases
* AOSP would make you lose the features that makes S4 worth it
* 20-30% less battery life then GN2.
GN2 Pros:
*Great battery
*Bigger screen
*Spen features
*more support as of now
GN2 Cons:
* Sometimes can be battle to hold
* PPI
Both devices share a outdoor usage crutch, even on full brightness both are a pain sometimes if in direct sunlight.
Size:
The GN2 Has some more side bezel & is obviously slightly larger due to its .5inch larger display. The S4 takes a more curved approach to the edges which I think looks neater. The S4 Body also feels tighter then the GN2.
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Bezels:
The S4 to me personally has the nicer body. Coming from the N2 you will feel at home with button placement, something some find awkward since they aren't used to it.
Camera:
13MP sounds may fancier then 8MP for sure, especially when the sensor is obviously larger on the S4 which makes the GN2s look dwarfed. But realtime shots?
GN2:
Downfall of GN2s slower shutter speed:
GS4:
Macro Quality:
Battery Life:
Depending on Kernel, Rom & usage Average Screen-time for the GS4 is 2.5- 5.5 Hours. GN2 Is way above this going for 7-9 Hours screen-ontime. You will lose battery an average of 20% faster. idle that left my GN2 at 92% after work put my GS4 at 72% with airplane mode, I had a day I left it alone at 71% and after work with no use my GS4 was 19% battery. I was able to juice that 19% for 1 hour and 40 minutes of use with kik after underclocking to 500mhz... else I would have been stranded with no ride.
Thoughts:
If you just bought a N2, I would stick with it unless your under remorse and think its too big. The S4 is an amazing device but you trade off battery life for an IR blaster, slightly better camera...and no Spen. If you want to switch because "Better specs" is all you see, dont. Touchwiz is lagging the S4 & Even custom roms slightly resolve the issue. Exynos 4 may not perform better in benchmarks but real time is were it currently outshines. The GN2 opens everything faster in tests I conducted even if by fractions of a second.
Another thing you will lose is the note taking abilities of the note & drawing capabilities. Using a Wacom stylus is 100x better then your finger.
There is no way to really say which is better. They are two different beasts and in the end you just have to follow your gut on whats more important within their feature sets. Both devices values WILL degrade the S4 will eventually be cheaply contracted & the NOTE2 will be replaced by the N3 without its contract price really dropping much (299/149 STILL!) so there's no reason to factor pricing anymore as choice, rather features at this point.
Both devices have amazing Rom support, if you are ok with battery life sacrifice for a newer feature set and something that is pocketable, Go GS4. If you want a device that will let your creative juices flow, or something to show off your note taking prowess & also is great as both a phone and tablet replacement and need something that you dont have to worry about battery life, go Note 2 if you are a extreme power user.
Either way you wont be disappointed.
~ Happy GN2 to GS4 user
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If you think I should add more to this, feel free to point out what I missed/can add.

Pros:
Gn2 has by far the most superior battery life ever .
Not to laggy,
Loud speakers
Cons :
Spen was useless to me .
To big to hold by the end of the day.
Really it was made for size , but in the end I believe size was its only downfall as a phone it made a better tablet.
Im sure some didn't mind but I think we all know it grew to become uncomfortable as a phone to carry.
I still owned it 3 times over lol
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Moved from a regular edge to the plus? Feedback requested!

I just picked up a edge plus to replace my normal edge last night, both gold 64gb.
At first I was smitten with the giant screen but after less than 24 hours I'm starting to miss the smaller, easier to use one handed edge. The exact reason I wanted the plus was for the larger size, the edge was the smallest phone I have had in a bit but now I'm actually missing that form factor.
I still have both and will take the two weeks to decide, maybe going back and forth a bit.
Anyone else make the swap? What are your thoughts?
I made the swap from a regular edge to the plus and I love it. Way better battery life from what I've seen so far.
As far as the bigger screen being harder to navigate with one hand, try hitting the home button 3 times. This puts the phone into 'one-handed mode' which shrinks the screen down to a smaller size into the bottom right/left corner.
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The settings for this are in Settings > Display > One-handed operation
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I have watched tons of reviews of the phone and nobody ever showed that, it does not work for me but maybe that's because I'm using the gel launcher.
I too have noticed better battey life but wanted to give it a few days before I know.
Edit** One handed mode had to be turned on, works great! Ty
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SInce it's AMOLED. I'm not sure why I don't make the outside area all black to save battery when the phone is in 1 hand mode.
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SInce it's AMOLED. I'm not sure why I don't make the outside area all black to save battery when the phone is in 1 hand mode.
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Good point! But I think I personally wouldn't have liked having most of my gorgeous screen off, like it's out of order or something (the way it looks on iPhone 6 plus), besides since one wouldn't use one-handed mode for long period of time, it wouldn't make a lot to difference on battery.
i made the swap and couldn't be happier. I debated over a week and then finally bit the bullet. from s6 edge 32GB to Plus 64gb. the Plus for me has better camera settings, it's smoother and more responsive, that extra 1 GB ram does help IMO. The increase in size does not bother me at all, a few days with it now and I forget how the regular edge feels.
I'm definitely happier making the switch and everything seems smoother and less lag.
Gold colour looks far better then the black sapphire.
Battery life is better and smoother.
Many people with the brightness bug in this s6 edge plus?
After a few weeks I'm now happy I made the switch.
The regular edge always felt too small, the plus is perfect and feels faster somehow. I have both side by side same apps, same firmware and the plus is faster.
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Moved from a regular edge to the plus? Feedback requested
I want to know is there many people with the brightness bug in this s6 edge plus?
I am. I tested many and many s6 edge plus in a lot of stores and they all nave this bug. I am starting to think samsung made this for some reason
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I love this phone coming from a Note 3, no note 5 in Holland, I love it and can barely put it down for too long.
Only issue I have just like my Note 3 I have WiFi dropouts.
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Aggressive design caused Samsung Galaxy Note 7 battery explosions

Awesome read for those seeking answers as to why Samsung took the action they did on the Note 7.
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I also read that Samsung actually knew the risk but decided to "push it". They paid for it dearly if that is true.
In any case, I returned my device long ago because there is no chance I would pay that much money for a possibly compromised device with many disadvantages. For the future, I hope Samsung wises up, starts making safe phones again and explains the situation, otherwise I can't buy from them anymore.
This isn't new "news", but having a major article highlight what we have pretty much known was the issue is nice. Hopefully Samsung sheds some official light on the subject, but they are probably hoping it just fades away so they won't bring attention to it. I really hope they don't lower the Display to body ratio on they next phones - one of the nicest things about the N7 is the high display to body size ratio. They were able to get a very high display to body ratio in the S7, with a bigger battery than the N7 even, without problems, so they can do it. Yes the N7 has the S Pen which takes up space, but there has to be a way to get a 3600 size battery (or bigger) into the next Note phone without having this issue. Maybe if they go with a slightly bigger display (5.8 to 5.9) that will allow more room to work with. Same high display to body ratio but slightly bigger display and internal room to work with. Very interested to see what the S8 has in store, as that will likely give us an idea on what the N8 will be looking like.
I just can't quite understand why making the size of the phone so thin is of such overriding importance, especially considering that most people want a phone with a decent sized battery that will last for a decent amount of time. Seriously, what is the difference if they put a 4 or 5k sized battery and the phone is .5mm thicker.
This is a bull**** article written by hacks who have zero journalistic or scientific credentials, or even skills. None of it is true.
The original batteries did indeed caught on fire ( not exploded) because of a manufacturing defect by Samsung SDI, which was fixed after the first recall by switching to a different manufacturer.
To get at the truth one only needs to look at the, GASP - FACTS.
There were five "explosions" after the first recall, and ZERO after the second.
complete bs and samsung knows it.
Agreed. The people saying it was an aggressive design are idiots. Other phones use the same aggressive design and even higher mAH batteries. We wont know the truth until samsung releases their findings.
PhoenixJedi said:
Agreed. The people saying it was an aggressive design are idiots. Other phones use the same aggressive design and even higher mAH batteries. We wont know the truth until samsung releases their findings.
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We were promised official results before the end of the year. Let's hope that holds true.
Why do people feel so threatened by the possibility that this is actually true? It is obvious it wasn't batteries alone, since they x-rayed every single battery yet the still went pop. It is still obiously a rare problem and whoever wants may still keep their phone regardless??
We want the results from SAMSUNG themselves. Honestly, considering the very small amount of failures out of the number of devices sold....

Chuwi Hi10 X Review and Discussion thread

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This came in the mail a while ago and thought I'd share a small review and open a thread for discussion.
Let's start with some basic specs:
CPU: Celeron N4100 @ 1.1Ghz
RAM: 6GB
Storage: 128GB onboard flash
Quite boring I know, but it seems pretty adequate for a small form factor 2 in 1 tablet. There is no point in running bechmarks in this kind of hardware, but surprisingly it is quite snappy on daily use. I've had no problem doing photo editing work on the device with Adobe's usual suspects. I expected Photoshop to be fast, but not Lightroom ( that one tends to struggle a bit in a big library, no matter the hardware), it was a pleasant surprise to see it working fine. Daily coding/writing/web browsing is a breeze with the addon keyboard and the battery while I could not find the specs on it, it seems to last a good 3 hours of heavy use with brightness set high.
Things worthy of mention on this device:
Trackpad really doesn't like water or sweat
Big battery + all aluminum construction= a top heavy device when in laptop mode. Also a giant heatsink, which is good
Cameras: both are decent enough for video calls, but nothing else. specially in low light conditions
Speakers: yes.
There's pen support and the Hi3 pen from the same guys is actually quite good
Touchscreen IPS Panel: Impressive colors and touch seems very good. Way too glossy for any outdoor work in bright sunlight
Limited range on wifi reception: It pretty much requires a direct line of sight with the AP or it will probably drop out, if connect at all. No speed issues. Probably related to the all aluminum construction and the antenna placement
Build quality: very good. Device feels solid and nice to use. Some corners are a bit sharp on the keyboard though.. not sharp enough to cut, but to irritate you while typing. I suppose some sandpaper can fix that quite easily
Some final thoughts: Very surprised with the performance/price index on this one and the size and packaging makes it perfect for a small walkaround laptop that you don't need to be too powerful or too expensive. The display stands out for me, as the color accuracy is pretty high and while vivid, not oversaturated. I'd like it to be a little lighter in total, but it's not a complete burden to carry. The charger situation is a bit weird as well, since it's using a 12v 2amp psu on a usb c hole, so you can't just plug it in any charger. I mean you can, but it will probably not work as intended. The two USB A ports on the keyboard dock albeit usb-2.0 they have been a lifesaver, since the device itself only has usb c ports.
Oh and I almost forgot. Windows 10 tablet mode is.. not good. It's certainly improved, but ux is horrible and inconsistent when you have to switch between tablet friendly apps and actual software you have to use. Most atrocious example is when trying to use Chrome with the touch keyboard. You tap on the location bar and the keyboard pops up. in full screen. and no, you can't see what you're typing. Thanks Microsoft!
On a more serious note: Cheap, solid build, x86 based small form factor 2 in 1 tablet with more than decent performance
Oh, did I mention the BIOS is quite open to config?
Maybe I'll try formatting and throwing linux at it. We'll see
Hi, did you try to install linux or Android x86? Thank you
does it have the necessary hardware requirements for windows 11?
yeahman45 said:
does it have the necessary hardware requirements for windows 11?
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Yes it does meet windows 11 requirements.
Hi!
I'm testing Zorin from a live USB in this device (mine with Intel Celeron N4120 CPU) and the screen rotation works in the other way around, when I put the tablet horizontally, the image is vertical and upside down. Also the resolution looks very small and all available resolutions look even smaller. I do not decide to install it because of what I comment.
I have searched about this without finding anything. Can someone help me to make it work 100% with linux?
Thank you!

Question 6GB version battery performance?

I'm almost decided. I'm buying the G30, and the battery is one of the main reasons.
I'm tempted to buy the Amazon-exclusive 6GB version. Everything else on board is identical; just 6GB instead of 4GB RAM.
However, would the 6GB affect battery performance vs the 4GB version, whose battery benchmarks are pretty much where I need them? Does anyone know?
Depends somewhat on the memory type.
My Note 10+ has a older generation of ram memory than the N20U. With 12 gb of ram all I notice is snappy performance with good battery life.
The impact of 2 gb of extra ram on battery life should be very small. 6 gb is the minimum I would have so it's a no brainer to go for the 6 gb variant.
Thanks! That makes sense and come to think of it my previous phone was 6GB too so I shouldn't downgrade.
Some interesting answers here if anyone else has the same question:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/j1os1g
How RAM usage effects battery drain?
I'm really confused about Android memory management. I just read here that killing apps by swiping from recent list or using task killers won't save your battery but drain more because this cause ...
android.stackexchange.com
Right now I have two browser open. You'll want the 6 gb. I reccomend staying away from Android 11, it's a hog that gives little in return.
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Hmmm... I don't know. For the specs I'm looking for, there aren't many more options out there.
Yes, the G30 is no flagship but it's got exactly what I want: great battery, it's not too large or bulky, dual sim, it doesn't have MIUI nor much bloatware, has decent camera.
I don't think I have many more options with somewhat decent specs, esp. at 6GB.
There's the G10 but it's got bad Wi-Fi, and all the 'power' models are worse in other specs, I think.
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Hmmm... I don't know. For the specs I'm looking for, there aren't many more options out there.
Yes, the G30 is no flagship but it's got exactly what I want: great battery, it's not too large or bulky, dual sim, it doesn't have MIUI nor much bloatware, has decent camera.
I don't think I have many more options with somewhat decent specs, esp. at 6GB.
There's the G10 but it's got bad Wi-Fi, and all the 'power' models are worse in other specs, I think.
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I never use wi-fi, it's a security risk. No need for it if you have an unlimited plan except as a hot spot.
By enabling only wifi updates then setting Playstore etc to only do automatic updates by wi-fi you can stop those apps auto-updates from raising hell. I use the wi-fi options like that
Get best rated phone with best specs in the class you're looking at. The more of that model sold the better the support and parts availability.
Consider used models in excellent condition as well; example, a Note 10+ 512 gb can be had for $650. Just check the display for burn in with Screen Test before accepting. B&H Photo gives you a 100% return policy on anything you buy from them.
Batteries are fairly easy to replace even on the 10+ so don't sweat that.
Nah, that approach doesn't work for me at all. It's not even about class, as not all the phones in each class have the exact same config.
Firstly, almost all flagship phones are huge anyway, and I don't like huge. Then they almost never have better batteries than this. A good phone is no use if you can't keep it on.
Then, many excellent phones use MIUI, which I loathe. And so on. I'm not above used and refurbished models, but only when they fit my requirements.
I don't have an unlimited data plan cause there's no need for that. I use 2-3GB total and that's how much I need.
Different strokes. Thanks for your help though
Is a Good phone. 90hz, Awesome! Big battery. It depends on the user how long it last...
If you don't use wifi, bluetooth, nfc and apps that eats power will last for a long time.
Very good value for the money.
New, not from the store, around 100$, in my region/country. 6/128 gb
I use Note 10+ 5g, the most beautifull phone. Good? Not so much. That 90hz (G30)over 60hz (Note 10), on the G30 matters! Huge price! I pay around 650 $ last year, in the summer. G30 moves better. Less bloatware.
Bluetooth seems to use very little battery on my 10+ in standby mode or in actual use. In 12 hours including 4 hours active usage it was at 1%.
Samsung's done a good job with their bt Buds+ it would seem.
I get 8 hours of Screen-on time & still 13% is left.

Question S21 Ultra to Fold 4

Had my trusty s21 ultra since day 1 .im liking the fold 4 but my main gripe is battery life m what are you guys getting . on my s21 ultra still to this day i am getting excellent batt life
battery life is excellent.
Same here, came from S21 Ultra, but the folds battery life is at least on par if not better. That's after using it for a good week.
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Same here, came from S21 Ultra, but the folds battery life is at least on par if not better. That's after using it for a good week.
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what sot and how long off charge
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battery life is excellent.
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any screens ? plz
Haven't tested it fully, but played a game in two sessions in parallel after work (split screen) from 6pm till 9pm. Pretty resource hungry game. And lost 22% of battery. That's on par with my S21U, but there only a smaller screen and only 1 game session.
I also jumped from S21U to Fold 4. I'm only three days in, so I'm still in the adjustment period. For me, battery life so far hasn't been as good, but it's not far off. If it helps, I've made it through three days of use, probably elevated use given the usual setup tasks. I expect that once the learning period ends and I've done some tuning that it'll be right around the same. And even if it's not quite as good, the benefits of the device outweigh any loss in battery life to me.
Same here s21 ultra to. Fold 4. Battery on par maybe slightly less but considering what the battery is running screen wise I'm good with it. Missing my 10x zoom a little but so far love this next device ture new phone not just a candy bar upgrade
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Had my trusty s21 ultra since day 1 .im liking the fold 4 but my main gripe is battery life m what are you guys getting . on my s21 ultra still to this day i am getting excellent batt life
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How long are you on the FOLD and do you use it as your daily phone? Did you give it the time to 'learn' and adjust the battery to your usage? I now get about 23-24 hours between chargers with 5 hours of SOT and most of my correspondence and browsing on the inner screen. Yes, the S21 Ultra had a good battery life, the FOLD is not far of it though.
Also jumped from S21U to F4. The first few days, maybe the first week, battery life was noticeably worse. Not massively, but enough to notice. I fiddled with some sleep settings and after the AI did it's thing the last 3-4 days have been almost as good as the S21U, just a hair worse. I get through a full day with around 30-40% left now (S21U was closer to 50%). That's without doing anything drastic... a few apps disabled, but no rooting, and I don't even think I did any ADB disables this time, just straight on-device. I'm running 4-6 SOT for that BTW.
Also just switched from a S21 U to the Fold 4. The camera setup is weaker but only marginally, in nearly 2 years of owing the S21 U the x10 zoom lens was hardly used, so isn't missed, and the x3 optical lens is pretty close to the S21U.
The loss of the x10 optical lens however is more than made up for by the massive screen realestate and the multitasking functionality. Only had the Fold for a few days, but the amount of additional productivity is mind blowing, its a game changer for me.
Battery life has been great for me, its actually outlasted the S21 U. Very happy so far .
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Also just switched from a S21 U to the Fold 4. The camera setup is weaker but only marginally, in nearly 2 years of owing the S21 U the x10 zoom lens was hardly used, so isn't missed, and the x3 optical lens is pretty close to the S21U.
The loss of the x10 optical lens however is more than made up for by the massive screen realestate and the multitasking functionality. Only had the Fold for a few days, but the amount of additional productivity is mind blowing, its a game changer for me.
Battery life has been great for me, its actually outlasted the S21 U. Very happy so far .
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Any screen shots of battery life?
Also how long before you charge.
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Any screen shots of battery life?
Also how long before you charge.
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I charge to 85% most days, 100->0% would be around 6hrs+ screen on time. That's doing a bit of everything, including some gaming via an emulator.
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