[Q] Offline Running App Support - Sony Smartwatch 3

I am a running enthusiast, but was reluctant to buy a running GPS watch since I wanted to wait until a smartwatch also had GPS functionality.
I have contacted customer support from Google as well as a number of the app developers to figure out which apps support offline (without the phone) support. Unfortunately, I have been getting very uncertain answers. I was wondering if anyone that has a Sony SW3 can comment on this. The app I currently use for running - MapMyRun - I'm pretty sure does not support AW compatibility at all. Can anyone comment on some other running apps like Runtastic, Runkeeper, Endomondo, Strava? Thanks so much!

well we have a thread talking about the only one supporting the offline mode. Runkeeper beta
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/runkeep-offline-gps-running-support-t2939159
check here.

king conan said:
well we have a thread talking about the only one supporting the offline mode. Runkeeper beta
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/runkeep-offline-gps-running-support-t2939159
check here.
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Yeah, I saw that. I just did not want to know confuse people looking for information about apps besides that one. I'll be sure to keep up to date on that thread for Runkeeper info though.

Ok, at the moment we only now about runkeeper.
I hope my favorite, runtastic, jumps in but since the SW3 is the only one with wear and gps I guess the demand is not very big for this feature.
I hope more official wear watches with GPS will show next year and I'm sure this situation will improve.

king conan said:
Ok, at the moment we only now about runkeeper.
I hope my favorite, runtastic, jumps in but since the SW3 is the only one with wear and gps I guess the demand is not very big for this feature.
I hope more official wear watches with GPS will show next year and I'm sure this situation will improve.
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Yeah, as much as I want to stay with my app since I've been using it for over a year, I've been waiting a long time to leave my phone at home when I go on runs.
I definitely agree that more watches with GPS will emphasize the importance of these offline apps. As I've said, I emailed pretty much all of the running apps developers. I'll keep this thread updated in case I hear from them.

You can run with MyTracks from google ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.maps.mytracks&hl=fr ) in waiting for other apps... You can have you time and distance without the phone with you.

May I ask which app you are waiting for? You always could use runkeeper and let it sync to your favorite App.
--> Online tool (Free) https://tapiriik.com/
--> SyncMyTracks App https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syncmytracks.free&hl=en

Runkeeper is not available to be functional witout the phone... So i'm waiting for update of Runkeeper and Runtastic.

The update of runkeeper in Google play should be very soon, they just added untethered mode (in the beta) without adding any extra features or customization. So not a big update or change to the core of the app.

I didn't realize that you could get the RunKeeper data to transfer to another app. If I could do that for MapMyRun, I may consider it. Thanks for the heads up Basch88.
I also heard from Endomondo, and they said "For now we will wait and see how the smart watch trend develops and then we will consider what to do going forward."

I don't like the response from Endomondo. It's my preferred training app, but guess I'll have to switch to RunKeeper when I get my watch in a few days. Hope the competition release watches with built-in gps soon so the training app developers get going.

Just heard back from Runtastic. This is what they said "Hi Kevin, no unfortunately that is not a feature we offer. You need to have the Runtastic App with you in order to obtain readings on the Smartwatch. At the moment the Sony Smartwatch 3 is not supported. In case you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us!"
I asked if they plan to support the feature, even in beta, at any point. Still waiting for a reply. Also, not sure why they say they don't support the Sony SW3, and yet they support other AW devices. I was pretty sure that the apps and everything would work on all AW devices instead of just a select group.

I got exactly the same reply back from them.
Ive since started using RunKeeper, because at least the support the SW3 (in beta). I purchased Sync My Tracks and transferred them all over from Runtastic to Runkeeper.

They clarified their past statement. They followed up with:
"What we mean to say is that we currently don’t support the ability to use the built-in gps then sync later to your phone – sorry for the misunderstanding. The Runtastic app is already compatible with the Sony Smartwatch 3, but not as a standalone tracker.
You will be pleased to know that tracking with watches built-in GPS then syncing is something we’re highly interested in, and currently looking into! The downside, however, is that’s all we can say at the moment – stay tuned for updates about this though!"

Strava said the following: "Thank you for contacting Strava. At this time, we do not access the GPS in the Sony Smartwatch 3. I apologize for the inconvenience! The best way to share your idea is to post your suggestion in our community forums. We use these forums to consolidate and collect feedback from our community so if there is enough interest, it may be something we put on the roadmap."
So, it looks like Runkeeper is the only one that is willing to openly discuss that they are incorporating offline GPS tracking besides the generic My Tracks and Lifelog. Runtastic may be next up, but they aren't going to officially comment on it yet. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that MapMyRun follows through for me. Though their track record for bringing features to Android is far from stellar.

today i tried my swr50 on the track.. so i used both a mobile with runkeeper( not paired with smartwatch 3 ) and also smartwatch 3 with MY TRACKS!!
GPS on both devices worked well.. the map is accurate on both BUT..
while runkeeper shows 10.01KM smartwatch shows 10.13 km !!!
so it's a bit of difference !!
I did also another thing.. i EXPORTED GPX file from MY TRACKS on Runkeeper web site .. this was a sort of test and also this worked well , which means we can just go jogging with smartwatch and then upload , while we wait for a stand alone app, the file on runkeeper or other services!!
Honestly i'm really satisfy about my smartwatch!!!
i post here the 2 tracks 1 runkeeper ( on the left ) and my tracks on smartwatch second picture!!
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I don't like the response from Endomondo. It's my preferred training app, but guess I'll have to switch to RunKeeper when I get my watch in a few days. Hope the competition release watches with built-in gps soon so the training app developers get going.
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They alway are last or really reluctant to implement features... Nonetheless they are also my preferred training app
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Ghostracer
Hi, where are all the strava users out there?
I've been working on a sony smartwatch 3 version of my app for the last few weeks and have just posted the beta to the play store.
The app is on the play store here: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bravetheskies.ghostracer&hl=en_GB
and to sign up for the beta you have to join this google group: plus.google.com/communities/108600094791246159447
The app uploads to strava but you can also export a gpx file.
Smartwatch features include:
Semi customisable display, long clicking brings up a list of fields.
Low power mode where the back light turns off but the app stays on. This is very temperamental, hopefully google will sort this feature out in the next wear update.

Got it, thank you.
As you told me in google +, after joining the community, to become a beta tester we have to follow this link:
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.bravetheskies.ghostracer
I'll try to test it yoday.
Just to talk a little bit, why strava is your choice to upload the data? Do you think it is better than the other famous fitness apps?
To summarize how to get the beta app with proper links:
1.- Download the google play app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bravetheskies.ghostracer&hl=en_GB
2.- Join Ghost racer community in G+:
https://plus.google.com/communities/108600094791246159447
3.- Then become betatester:
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.bravetheskies.ghostracer
After that the beta is available as an update in google play.

@king conan : The app uses Strava because that's what I use for cycling and I'm a big fan of the segment leadrerboards. I've looked into adding support for other apps in the pasts from users requests but most don't support an open API, unlike Strava.
Thanks for putting the links up, I have not posted enough on the forum to be allowed to add links
Few notes about the smartwatch app:
The speed data field is broken, little error I made in last update. Will be fixed straight away.
You cannot change between Paired and Standalone mode yet. Its always in Standalone mode.
To swipe back up from the settings page you have to touch near the top of the screen and not on the list.

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[Work-In-Progress 1.13] Prime TV: Show Tracker for WP

*NEWS* Version 1.12 is up on Marketplace! Version 1.13 with social goodies is coming real soon!
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Howdy! I need some feedbacks from you guys
At the time I was coding this app, there wasn't any decent shows tracking app out there, so I decided to give back the WP community a little, hence the born of Prime TV.
[Functionalities wise...]
What's new (in version 1.12)?
65% faster load and resume time
Shake to change tile image (paid users only)
Image gallery for shows
More screen captures/images for episodes
Change default genre for shows grouping
Much more stable saving and loading mechanism
Fail safe mechanism to detect missing shows and automatically re-add them
Grouping options and alphabetical sorting option for tv shows
Live tile notification (paid users only, for now)
News feeds integration (general news on main page, show specific news on show page)
Auto mobilized browser for reading news (faster load time and to conserve bandwidth)
Search for missing high quality background on show page (see video)
The core is pretty similar to other apps.
You can follow shows (US, UK, Anime etc) as long as it's in thetvdb.com database.
My efforts in this app are to make it lighting fast and smooth transitions between pages.
It also supports auto timezone correction, so if you're in Australia but following US series, you'll know when it will air on local time.
In the future releases, I've planned to include
Notification system (Graduated)
Mark as watched (Graduated)
Preview trailer (In current version - beta)
JumpList to group episodes by Season number and/or air date (Graduated)
Support more languages (I only know 5 so I might need help from you guys
Social integration (twitter/facebook)
News integration from tv.com etc. (Graduated)
[So the questions are...]
I'd like to hear some feedback from you guys
What do you think about this app?
As a developer or user, what do you like to see in this app?
Don't be shy, request any features you like! I listen to everyone that has something to say!
You can find version 1.10 on Marketplace, and version 1.11 has been submitted for certification just a moment ago (26 April).
App is fast and the layout is pretty sharp, so points for that.
Some negatives: you need "feedback" to let you know you've added a show after you searched it. Right now you tap it and it adds, but you don't know that till you backed out of the search.
The app crashes in trial on a second launch, erasing my 2 saved shows--not sure if that's a limitation or not.
At $0.99, it's not yet there. You might be better offering a "lite" free version with basics (what you have now) and then a paid $0.99 with notifications, etc. Right now though, TVShow Lite is more stable, useful and free even if yours seems a tad faster and nicer (background image).
Hey malatesta, thanks for the feedback.
Sorry about the crash, I investigated into that and it's a bug.
Version 1.2.1 has been submitted with tons of bug fixes, even faster (framerate from 45 to 58) and better transitions.
I'm thinking of making an ad-supported free version with all current functionalities. And ad-free version with notification, mark as watched etc this week. I'm revamping the search page, adding something like "top shows", and of course the "feedback" you mentioned, thanks!
Also I'm thinking of removing the "aired" section, what do you think?
I played with the trial as well
The overall design is nice and pleasing and i like the backgrounds. I cannot comment on the loading since I could only load 2 shows and that's certainly not enough to say anything about loading time/transitions.
I agree with malatesta, when adding from search, you need some sort of way to let me know I have added it - also I would do away with the tap-add, just have a button that specifically adds, because you can imagine the accidental tapping would add a show and that would be annoying.
Panorama view is fine so far. I would personally expect to have only the most important things in pan view: my tv shows - upcoming - missed/aired (although only useful if i can track/check off episodes) - and maybe new/upcoming tv shows
I would also leave adding and news to the bottom as visible buttons and every other function should be hidden in the ... slideout menu
i like clean panoramas that contain only whats really and immediately useful, so that ^ is why i would not prefer to have a panorama page for every function
also the calendar-type view of the date is fine and i would say 24hr format is better, and it would get rid of the am-pm that sits off to the right
and last, i'm personally against ads i avoid apps with ads (except perhaps only to test and then buy or not), they destroy the whole design of the app, so if you want you can make a trial app with very basic functionality (have a look at other apps to see what is considered basic)
this is especially true since your layout is great and pleasing, any ads would make it look horrible
cheers
@nick109, hey thanks a lot for the comment! I'd like to invite you to be official tester of upcoming releases, what do you think? I develop this everyday it's just the annoying certification process that's slowing it down. But having said that you'd have to have a developer account or jailbroken phone to sideload the app though.
I too avoid apps with ads, I don't think putting ads is the way to go. So I'll consider putting ads seriously, at most it'll only appear in trial mode, definitely no way in paid mode.
Currently I'm implementing "mark as watched" feature, so that aired section could be useful. And also JumpList (like in People app you can select the alphabet and quickly jumping to a group) to group episodes by season number and by air date.
Time formatting is really troublesome here, I'm also changing the format according to user preference, e.g. what you set on your phone (region and languages), so this app will have a consistent look and feel.
Lastly, these days seems like social integration is the only way to make app popular, sadly But I'll make the app more solid before adding news/twitter etc.
Again thanks for your reply.
sure i'll gladly test it as best i can and inform you of any bugs i come across
and yes i will have to sideload it
and speaking of ads, i noticed google has released their sdk for wp7, and their design is actually quite great and fits well with the metro ui
news here
I bought the app (1.0) but it's still telling me i am using the trial version and i am unable to add multiple shows... already tried reinstalling/re-buying, no luck. any suggestions?
General suggestions:
- live-tile support as the "all-white" tile does not look so great (would have payed even more for the app with live-tile)
- fix for the "trial mode not being removable"
- maybe a link to "buy app" from within the app to fix the issue?
- as I have a LOT of shows i follow, maybe some way to rate shows or prioritize these
- confirmation once a show was successfully added
really looking forward to some updates and hopefully a fix to my issue!
cheers!
@nick109, thanks! I saw that as well, will definitely experiment it when critical features have been implemented/improved.
@pencilcase, I'm so sorry! I just investigated into that issue and it was totally my fault, an update (1.2.1) is on the way, i think it'll be approved tomorrow. Fortunately I revamped the trial system, it's still only 2 shows allowed on trial, but it won't have that nasty paid version issue. Again I'm sorry.
Good suggestions @pencilcase, I was thinking of using the settings page to allow collection sorting, like according to added time or rating. I have tested adding 20 shows, including America's Next Top Model which has 15 seasons, and it doesn't slow down version 1.2.1 at all.
I'm working on version 1.3.0, which has "Mark as Watched" and grouping system. Today I even bought a $149 developer library (from telerik) just to improve this app! Hopefully you guys will like it!
i gave the 1.2 version another go, i added simpsons which has a lot of seasons and episodes, and it did not lag, so very good on that
i also added Terra Nova, or tried to, but the app didn't respond by adding it, give it a try and see if it happens to you as well
yes, focus on the critical stuff for now, and in the future if you could keep in mind to have a setting to refresh background on each launch, that would be a nice eye candy
@nick109, currently my implementation is to cross reference thetvdb.com and tvrage.com database to find matching series. So that I could pull information from both databases and integrate them together.
That's actually why some series appearing on the selection couldn't actually be added, e.g. if information couldn't be matched.
I'm thinking to go with tvrage.com, they have more solid database, almost 99.99% uptime. And updating mechanism is simpler, plus I could actually implement video trailer for each episode with that database.
I'm implementing this on version 1.3, and a major UI overhaul is coming!
By the way, what do you mean that refreshing background on each launch? Currently it's getting the background of latest upcoming episode. E.g. if The Vampire Diaries has the latest upcoming episode it'll be the background of that, so at first glance you'll instantly know the latest upcoming episode. And if you delete that show (by tap and holding on "collection"), the background will be refreshed to the next upcoming episode.
ah i see now : )
and yes if from tvrage you could implement trailers that would be really nice!
looking forward to it
hey nick109, check out the preview video below, what do you think?
aha now you've done it! good work. have you sent this for approval yet?
thanks! no i haven't. there's still a couple of things i need to do, like manual timezone adjustment, because i don't live in a country with daylight saving, so i don't understand time property as well as others.
as a user, it'll be very frustrating that a tv show tracking app shows all kind of incorrect time, so i'm working on a page for "settings" to manually adjust each tv show.
at the same time i'm also working on live tile notification what do you think of the mockup live tile image below?
good idea for the time part, should help with non local TV series
The live tile looks great - I suppose it will update the picture too? Else I think the today part is unnecessary since it's understood
The new interface looks quite a lot to TVShow !
I bought 'Prime TV'and 'TVShow' and I prefer TVShow largely because he has already 'live tile' (which are updated every night without restarting the application) and converting local times for foreign TV shows. And it has more feature like : subtitles, translation, recaps, pictures
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Howdy! I need some feedbacks from you guys
At the time I was coding this app, there wasn't any decent shows tracking app out there, so I decided to give back the WP community a little, hence the born of Prime TV.
[Functionalities wise...]
The core is pretty similar to other apps.
You can follow shows (US, UK, Anime etc) as long as it's in thetvdb.com database.
My efforts in this app are to make it lighting fast and smooth transitions between pages.
It also supports auto timezone correction, so if you're in Australia but following US series, you'll know when it will air on local time.
In the future releases, I've planned to include
Notification system
Mark as watched
Preview trailer
JumpList to group episodes by Season number and/or air date
Support more languages (I only know 5 so I might need help from you guys
Social integration (twitter/facebook)
News integration from tv.com etc.
[So the questions are...]
I'd like to hear some feedback from you guys
What do you think about this app?
As a developer or user, what do you like to see in this app?
Also do you like thetvdb.com database better or tvrage.com?
[Special treatments for XDA...]
If you guys like, I can probably release beta versions to some testers before it hits Marketplace, working on this alone I just can't seem to catch every bug
Don't be shy, request any features you like! I listen to everyone that has something to say!
You can find version 1.0 on Marketplace, and version 1.2.1 has been submitted for certification yesterday (even faster and more reliable).
I've set up a static website just for viewing pleasure, check it out at http://nineverse.com/.
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You interested in making an app release thread in the Apps and Games section?
mine seems to not be saving shows i add anymore (FIXED by reinstalling)
any news on the new version with live-tile support? really looking forward to that
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hey nick109, check out the preview video below, what do you think?
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Thanks guys to steal the design of TVShow...

Windows Phone 7 SkyCat App

Hi,
I am the developer behind Windows Phone 7's Mockingbird IM application. I have gotten reviews from it, however, I am not currently working on upgrading Mockingbird IM yet.
Instead, I would like to announce a new application being developed by me. As stated in the description of Mockingbird IM, SkyCat will be coming to the marketplace soon.
However, I am in a little dilemma. I really don't know what features you guys liked or disliked on Mockingbird IM, I have given a whole new interface (without themes) to SkyCat. As one of the reviewers stated that the UI was clunky.
SkyCat will be replacing Mockingbird IM as a better IM client and will support multiple IM protocols (AIM, IRC, etc...)
I would love to see some feedback on the application if anyone wants to leave me some, detailed feedback would be nice so SkyCat will be in near perfection by the time it comes out on 10/11/11.
Thank you for reading my post.
Update:
Source has been opened and is available at http://groovyim.codeplex.com
THank you.
Update 2:
The application is now available on Microsoft's App Store, and is fully supported, you can buy it now for a limited time only at $0.99, it will go back to $4.99 on January 15th.
The version available on Codeplex is no longer updated or supported by us, and we do not recommend using it. Please find the latest version on the Microsoft App Store, and if you see any problems with it, please let us know and we will work on fixing it as soon as possible.
UPDATE:
APPLICATION CURRENTLY DISCONTINUED ON WINDOWS PHONE 7; FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY USERS WHO BOUGHT THIS APPLICATION ON WINDOWS PHONE 7 ARE ABLE TO GET IT FOR FREE ON iOS AND / OR ANDROID FOR FREE. PLEASE PROVIDE US PROOF OF PURCHASE, THANKS. PROMOTION ENDS 04/06/12.
Thank you.
Hi,
i just drop in here on my way to somewhere else... not a user of ur prog but very interested in the multi-messenger thing.
on android there is Trillian, which is also available on a select few other OS. I love trillian and the whole concept of it but it doesn't look like them gonna go for WP7.
Now, is your SkyCat supposed to be something like that? Because then i would most defo be interested in using it and would also be willing to test for you (on my wifes Telephone tho hehehe).
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Hi,
i just drop in here on my way to somewhere else... not a user of ur prog but very interested in the multi-messenger thing.
on android there is Trillian, which is also available on a select few other OS. I love trillian and the whole concept of it but it doesn't look like them gonna go for WP7.
Now, is your SkyCat supposed to be something like that? Because then i would most defo be interested in using it and would also be willing to test for you (on my wifes Telephone tho hehehe).
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Hi,
Thanks for your interest.
I currently only develop for Windows Phone 7, as it is a great operating system. I believe everyone should be switching to Windows Phone 7, but to get that to happen, more programs need to be made available, which is the point of "SkyCat" (Officially named Groovy IM).
I see that the only multi-messenger application currently available for Windows Phone 7 is IM+ and that lacks many features consumers are wanting which is why Groovy IM is going to bring those features into one application for Windows Phone 7 and hopefully be better than our competitors over at IM+.
As trillian's userinterface matches that of Android's, mine will be matching Windows Phone 7. I do have some screenshots to upload today. As some people may be wondering what it will look like, however, be aware, this application is far from finished and I am only taking suggestions (not beta testers) currently for the application.
You can offer suggestions for Groovy IM over this forum (XDA-Developers.com) as I currently do not have a website devoted to Groovy IM.
Please note that only certain features can be shown as of this time and it may not be the final outlook of the program as it can change through out time.
Please see attached images for current design of application...
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Thank you.
Will it be based on Libpurple or something similar, or use a web proxy to cover the different protocols?
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Will it be based on Libpurple or something similar, or use a web proxy to cover the different protocols?
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Hi,
Thanks for your interest in Groovy IM.
The protocols will not use Pidgin's source, however, some of the features included will come from Pidgin.
The supported protocols (as of this time) will be...
AIM / AOL / ICQ / iChat
Facebook
Google Talk
Groovy
IRC
MSN / Window Live
UnfairNET
XMPP / Jabber
Yahoo
We may add or remove some of the above protocols based on suggestions / requests received here.
You will not be forced to sign in with Groovy, however, you can chose to create an account and sign in on your own.
We expect a beta release (for anyone who is interested) to be released around 10/15/11, give or take a few days.
For those who wish to test the program, you may send us a PM and on the beta-release date we will upload our program as a private program to Microsoft's marketplace and release a link to where you can get it from the marketplace.
Thank you for your concern in helping Groovy IM become better.
Hello,
i am unsure if you got my point.
i am currently very busy getting into WP7, which i believe to be a very good OS. I am feeling a big lack of Multi-IM there tho...
Trillian is what i love(d) on pc and Android. Them just seem not to be very keen on getting onto WP7 themselves. So someone else needs do that job.
Obviously you try to.
You requested suggestions. I will try:
Keep facebook simple. Its basically already integrated into wp7, only lacking an interface that shows online buddies. so that'd be the only thing i'd wish for with facebook.
Try to have contacts all in one list no matter what service, but include means of sorting them by e.g service or state or name or both or all.
have a live tile that shows infos like join/part, online/offline msg etc.
make it run in background without dehydrating to keep it active (like whatsapp doesn't yet do - it delays msg when brought to halt).
have a very clear history regulation like have everything logged, have nothing logged, have a cloud-based log (use google cloud for example), have certain services logged, have only certain persons logged etc. Follow principle of: "User Privacy by default" - very, very important these days!
am sure there's more but cant currently think of more. I am rather simplicity- oriented. thats why i love wp7. its very minimal. keep the prog the same way. that'd be cool.
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Hello,
i am unsure if you got my point.
i am currently very busy getting into WP7, which i believe to be a very good OS. I am feeling a big lack of Multi-IM there tho...
Trillian is what i love(d) on pc and Android. Them just seem not to be very keen on getting onto WP7 themselves. So someone else needs do that job.
Obviously you try to.
You requested suggestions. I will try:
Keep facebook simple. Its basically already integrated into wp7, only lacking an interface that shows online buddies. so that'd be the only thing i'd wish for with facebook.
Try to have contacts all in one list no matter what service, but include means of sorting them by e.g service or state or name or both or all.
have a live tile that shows infos like join/part, online/offline msg etc.
make it run in background without dehydrating to keep it active (like whatsapp doesn't yet do - it delays msg when brought to halt).
have a very clear history regulation like have everything logged, have nothing logged, have a cloud-based log (use google cloud for example), have certain services logged, have only certain persons logged etc. Follow principle of: "User Privacy by default" - very, very important these days!
am sure there's more but cant currently think of more. I am rather simplicity- oriented. thats why i love wp7. its very minimal. keep the prog the same way. that'd be cool.
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Hi,
Thank you for your concern with Groovy IM.
I agree Windows Phone 7 is a great operating system, however, lacks many features of matured operating systems, including but not limited to Multi-IM clients, better multi-tasking support.
I also believe that applications should stay simple - easy to use, get in, out and information from at the same time.
Facebook Chat will be integrated with a great contacts list supporting it.
I believe sorting by service, name, groups, and status are also great features, and as such, they are being integrated into Groovy IM.
Due to Windows Phone 7 not having true multi-tasking support applications cannot constantly run 24/7 as they can on Android or iOS. You must keep them open to constantly run otherwise Groovy IM will exit Chat Rooms, and log in at a set timeframe checking for offline IM's.
Groovy IM already has support for logging the things you chose and it will give you options to save the logs on your phone or through a cloud service.
Thank you for your interest.
Hi !
Would it be possible to support Skype as well ?
And, it is probably impossible, but could you find a way to keep the Wifi ON, while the phone is in standby ? so the application could keep synchronising even if the phone is in standby mode ?
Thanks
FBK said:
Hi !
Would it be possible to support Skype as well ?
And, it is probably impossible, but could you find a way to keep the Wifi ON, while the phone is in standby ? so the application could keep synchronising even if the phone is in standby mode ?
Thanks
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Hi,
Yes it would be possible to support Skype, Skype is planned to be added in a later release (Version 1.2).
The beta release (1.0) will not support Skype, and should be coming soon to those who wish to beta test.
I do not understand what you mean by "standby" mode on the phone. Do you mean when the user / application goes idle and the lock screen comes up? If so, yes, there is a way and a option you can turn on that will keep the application constantly running as long as it is opened and infront of the other apps.
Thanks.
Hi,
I am editing this post because I would like to share some pictures of Groovy IM once again with you all.
I hope these pictures don't make you too anxious for Groovy IM. Please continue suggesting ideas you would like to see in Groovy IM.
Anyway...
This picture is from the Groovy service.
The above image shows how Groovy IM's group chat looks on the Groovy service.
You will be able to change the color on your username of DarkRed to other colors such as DarkBlue, DarkGreen, etc...
Your friends color is based on the phones set theme color.
Thanks.
Kuzcoed,
sounds beautiful. What about the new Mango Multitasking? As i understand, there is a way to keep apps open and alive in the background if the dehydrate-key in the registry is modified to not dehydrate background apps. i understood, this means that the app is kept in working state and does not drain its contents from memory. am i correct?
Thank you for your work.
Yes, it is what i was meaning by "standby". Because, when the lock screen come up, the wifi is automatically switch off (at least on my phone, but i think it is because of wp7 no ?) and so i can't know if i get new messages.
And i agree with Sneakyghost, i think you should keep it simple.To me,it is important that kind of application to start quickly, as i am often switching between many applications.
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Kuzcoed,
sounds beautiful. What about the new Mango Multitasking? As i understand, there is a way to keep apps open and alive in the background if the dehydrate-key in the registry is modified to not dehydrate background apps. i understood, this means that the app is kept in working state and does not drain its contents from memory. am i correct?
Thank you for your work.
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Thank you for your interest in Groovy IM.
As of this time, there is no official support from Microsoft for full background multitasking, and I do not believe Microsoft will be integrating full background multitasking anytime soon.
As far as dehydration of your phone, I do not recommend it, and I do not believe Microsoft endorses the "hack" either.
I cannot comment on dehydation, as I have little to no information on it.
Thanks.
FBK said:
Yes, it is what i was meaning by "standby". Because, when the lock screen come up, the wifi is automatically switch off (at least on my phone, but i think it is because of wp7 no ?) and so i can't know if i get new messages.
And i agree with Sneakyghost, i think you should keep it simple.To me,it is important that kind of application to start quickly, as i am often switching between many applications.
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Hi,
I have not experienced that problem on my test HTC HD7. I cannot comment on your mobile phone as it may have the settings different than mine. If you wish to know more about "standby" mode please contact Microsoft. My application has a option to keep it from going idle however. When it gets sent back to the background it will open a notification thread which checks for IMs often.
Yes, I understand your concern and will try my best to keep the application launching quickly, however, have it have the features you and others want.
Thanks.
Hi,
We are pleased to let you all know Groovy IM is still going smoothly. We are curious to what the users think about one of the ideas our developers want to integrate.
The feature will keep your accounts constantly connected by having you register an account with the Groovy "WP7" service.
The Groovy WP7 service will require you to login to the Groovy WP7 in order to add accounts, connect with your accounts, and constantly keep them logged in and receiving IMs / Chat Messages.
The Groovy WP7 service will be a secured service that will require you to enter your pin number for any modifcations on your account.
Let us know if you will feel safe using this application if we integrate the Groovy "WP7" service, which will store all your accounts, account information, account messages, and more, on our servers.
Thanks.
Well, trillian also did that with their Astra service about a year or two ago. The user concern was very large but finally overcome. Many people are using this cloud based service now to store and retrieve sensitive account data and log files. they had the advantage of a long build reputation of a trustworthy software company. You do not have that yet.you will need to earn that trust with good software. You might want to wait for a later date with this feature. I for sure will not put login-information into any server-structure if I have no proof of its security.
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Sneakyghost said:
Well, trillian also did that with their Astra service about a year or two ago. The user concern was very large but finally overcome. Many people are using this cloud based service now to store and retrieve sensitive account data and log files. they had the advantage of a long build reputation of a trustworthy software company. You do not have that yet.you will need to earn that trust with good software. You might want to wait for a later date with this feature. I for sure will not put login-information into any server-structure if I have no proof of its security.
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Hi,
Thank you for your interest in Groovy IM.
Yes, I believe we will wait on this feature until more users feel safe about using Groovy IM, or Microsoft allows the application to run even in the background.
Thanks.
We have a new update for everyone here...we would like to show our Aliases now on our buddylist. Please be aware this is not the final version. We have a feature turned on to put all users online under a group named "Online Users" as you can tell.
Please let us know what you guys think.
Thanks.
Hi,
We are pleased to announce another screenshot on Groovy IM.
We are also pleased to announce that the developers behind Groovy IM are stating the application should start being messaged to PMs within the next 6 - 10 days.
Thanks.
Cool. Looking forward!
Are the app colors following the system colors or will we have to live with that red?
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Sneakyghost said:
Cool. Looking forward!
Are the app colors following the system colors or will we have to live with that red?
sent from my CoreDroid HD 2 using TapaTalk
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Hi,
The background is based on your phone settings (e.g. Light OR Dark).
The background border colors for groups are based on your select Accent Color on your phone (e.g. Blue).
Thanks for your interest.
Hi,
We would like to update you all on the current status of Groovy IM. We have not given up on the project, we are adding more protocols than originally expected for the beta version. We hope you will not mind.
Thanks.
Hi, your idea is very interesting!
I'd like to suggest you a feature, i.e. "virtual contacts". Let's suppose I have various contacts of a friend, being of various or even the same protocol (MSN, private Skype contact, work Skype contact and so on).
It would be beautiful to me to be able to group all this contacts in a single virtual contact, built as an ordered list of each contacts. Communication will happen with the first available protocol "behind the scene".
what do you think about?

Google maps showing high usage even though I haven't used it.

I've noticed Google maps has been keeping my phone awake quite a bit during the day. I've never noticed this behavior before in any of my phones. Not sure if it is a Google Now thing? My battery drain while on standby seems higher than what I would expect from a battery this size. Almost 2-3% an hour with zero use. I can get through the day fine but poor standby drain makes a second day out of the question. On just plain standby my Sensation can last as long or longer with 1/2 the battery.
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Yep, same here. I uninstalled the updates and all is well.
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Yep, same here. I uninstalled the updates and all is well.
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Uninstalled what update?
Not sure which update it was, whichever one is current. I used the Manage Applications menu to uninstall updates on Maps. It won't let you uninstall maps without using TiBu or something similar. Since Maps is considered a system app, you can only uninstall updates. That was sufficient to end the needless power drain.
I noticed when I turned off Google now it went away and I have the most current maps update. You might want to check it out
Google play , ,find google maps app and then uninstall. reboot your phone.
Don't worry, you are not uninstalling the all app just the update.
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Do you have the location services enabled ?
enachemc said:
Do you have the location services enabled ?
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Turn off gps its only a button away to turn on in the status bar? Also try reinstalling google maps if anything
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google now-settings-privacy & accounts-manage location history-location settings-location reporting-Do not update your location. Also uncheck Enable location sharing and Enable location history if checked. Also if your weather widget is updated by geolocation, put in a static zip code instead.
Aguiltysoul said:
I noticed when I turned off Google now it went away and I have the most current maps update. You might want to check it out
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I'm trying ot avoid turning off google now. Battery life is good enough I can live with it but if I can get rid of the battery drain and keep google now that would be gravey.
OwenW71 said:
Not sure which update it was, whichever one is current. I used the Manage Applications menu to uninstall updates on Maps. It won't let you uninstall maps without using TiBu or something similar. Since Maps is considered a system app, you can only uninstall updates. That was sufficient to end the needless power drain.
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Trying that out. Will see what my Maps usage looks like tonight.
enachemc said:
Do you have the location services enabled ?
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Yes. I've had location services enabled on every Android phone I've owned and I've never seen that high map usage so something is different about the Note II setup. When I was using Jelly Bean on my Sensation I never recalled seeing that heavy maps usage so I'm thinking something is off on my setup with the Note II.
After uninstalling the update it looks better. Google search on , ,gps on.
Anyway. .the battery life on this phone is amaizing.i didn't root my phone yet to flash a custom rom because everything looks awesome.
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Yeah if you want all that on it will use some battery. I turned everything off I mentioned earlier, google now still works perfectly, but I have 0 maps activity at all registering on my battery activity.
stevessvt said:
google now
-settings
-privacy & accounts
-manage location history
-location settings-location reporting
-Do not update your location.
Also uncheck Enable location sharing and Enable location history if checked.
Also if your weather widget is updated by geolocation, put in a static zip code instead.
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Thanks for sharing this but can you tell me where to put the static zip?
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Hit the weather on the widget so it brings up the 5 day forcast. Top right corner hit the menu button. Again, top right hand corner hit the +, put in your zip code and hit your town. Now hit the menu button on the phone itself by the home button, hit show current city, and turn off.
Thats it, your good to go.
This is why I use AutoStarts to prevent apps from starting up in background and manage when the apps do run in the background so that the apps don't take up so much system resources. Yes, Google Maps does auto start when your device boots up and then runs in the background.
stevessvt said:
Hit the weather on the widget so it brings up the 5 day forcast. Top right corner hit the menu button. Again, top right hand corner hit the +, put in your zip code and hit your town. Now hit the menu button on the phone itself by the home button, hit show current city, and turn off.
Thats it, your good to go.
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Thanks that one was completed since day one, old trick since htc hero
I asked the question because I was missing something in Google Now
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OwenW71 said:
Yep, same here. I uninstalled the updates and all is well.
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Thanks, that did it! Maps pretty much stopped dead in my battery stats since I did this a few hours ago! :victory:
I'm curious are you people experiencing this issue rooted or stock? I supposed that could be carrierIQ transmitting your location data to the NDAA data fusion centers
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Americans Are The Most Spied On People In World History
More Spying On Citizens than in Stasi East Germany
TechDirt notes:
In a radio interview, Wall Street Journal reporter Julia Angwin (who’s been one of the best at covering the surveillance state in the US) made a simple observation that puts much of this into context: the US surveillance regime has more data on the average American than the Stasi ever did on East Germans.
Indeed, the American government has more information on the average American than Stalin had on Russians, Hitler had on German citizens, or any other government has ever had on its people.
The American government is collecting and storing virtually every phone call, purchases, email, text message, internet searches, social media communications, health information, employment history, travel and student records, and virtually all other information of every American.
Some also claim that the government is also using facial recognition software and surveillance cameras to track where everyone is going. Moreover, cell towers track where your phone is at any moment, and the major cell carriers, including Verizon and AT&T, responded to at least 1.3 million law enforcement requests for cell phone locations and other data in 2011. And – given that your smartphone routinely sends your location information back to Apple or Google – it would be child’s play for the government to track your location that way.
As the top spy chief at the U.S. National Security Agency explained this week, the American government is collecting some 100 billion 1,000-character emails per day, and 20 trillion communications of all types per year.
He says that the government has collected all of the communications of congressional leaders, generals and everyone else in the U.S. for the last 10 years.
He further explains that he set up the NSA’s system so that all of the information would automatically be encrypted, so that the government had to obtain a search warrant based upon probably cause before a particular suspect’s communications could be decrypted. But the NSA now collects all data in an unencrypted form, so that no probable cause is needed to view any citizen’s information. He says that it is actually cheaper and easier to store the data in an encrypted format: so the government’s current system is being done for political – not practical – purposes.
He says that if anyone gets on the government’s “enemies list”, then the stored information will be used to target them. Specifically, he notes that if the government decides it doesn’t like someone, it analyzes all of the data it has collected on that person and his or her associates over the last 10 years to build a case against him."
READ THE FULL ARTICLE AT THIS LINK:
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/1...utm_campaign=Feed:+pakalert+(Pak+Alert+Press)
Imagine if Stalin or Hitler had the ability to spy on people like technology has presented us today.
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Imagine if Stalin or Hitler had the ability to spy on people like technology has presented us today.
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I dunno were almost to the stazi 1937-38 e. german police state now!!

[APP] PRadio - Pandora for Windows 8

PRadio is a Windows 8 Store App for Pandora. Unlike IE, this app allows users to stream music from Pandora recommendation service in the background. It works great on tablets such as Microsoft Surface. This app works only in the US. If you want to use it in other countries you need a US based proxy or VPN software such as openvpn.net
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Features Supported
* Add radio stations via the search charm
* Search for Genre, Album, Artist and Songs
* Delete radio stations via the app bar
* Pin radio stations to start menu
* Play/Pause/Skip songs
* Multimedia Keyboard Support
* Support for snapped view and portrait layout.
* History of Songs Played
* Share Song Information with other applications via share charm
* Provide feedback for a song
* Background Streaming
* Support for touch and tablets
To download the released version please visit the Windows Store and search for PRadio or open the following link in IE.
http://bit.ly/Yt9qT5
The app is only available in the US Store, if you are in another country you can switch to the US Store by going to "Control Panel\Clock, Language, and Region\ Change region."
[Update 12/14/2012]:
If you want to try out the latest version that will be available shortly on the store you will need to sideload the app. This version supports background music streaming on Surface RT even when the device is locked (Connected Standby).
Please follow the instructions given below:
1. Download Pandora_0.0.4.8_AnyCPU_Test and unzip to any folder e.g. xyz.
2. Open powershell as an administrator
3. Execute the following commands in powershell
a) set-executionpolicy unrestricted
b) cd xyz\Pandora_0.0.4.8_AnyCPU_Test
c) .\Add-AppDevPackage.ps1
[Note: Installation process might ask you to login to your Microsoft Account which is necessary to get the necessary certificates from the windows store to sign the package]
If you have feedback on the app, please post below.
What is Pandora?
Pandora Internet Radio, an automated music recommendation service and "custodian" of the Music Genome Project whose service in full is only available in the United States, with limited access in Australia and New Zealand. The service plays musical selections similar to song suggestions entered by a user. The user provides positive or negative feedback for songs chosen by the service, which are taken into account for future selections.
Wow, very nicely implemented for a third-party client! The snapped interface is very good as well. The interface when something *else* is snapped (which means it only has about 1040 pixels of width on the Surface) isn't perfect though (usable, but some stuff gets covered).
I'd be happy to sideload and test a new version.
EDIT: A bit more feedback: the app doesn't handle being backgrounded very gracefully. It will stop playing after the current song. I suppose that *could* be intentional, but it's annoying.
GoodDayToDie said:
Wow, very nicely implemented for a third-party client! The snapped interface is very good as well. The interface when something *else* is snapped (which means it only has about 1040 pixels of width on the Surface) isn't perfect though (usable, but some stuff gets covered).
I'd be happy to sideload and test a new version.
EDIT: A bit more feedback: the app doesn't handle being backgrounded very gracefully. It will stop playing after the current song. I suppose that *could* be intentional, but it's annoying.
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Thanks for the feedback, I just posted instructions to sideload the new version.
It should not stop playing after the current song, this is not intentional. Can you send me the following PRadioInformation.log file which should be present in
%appdata%\..\Local\Packages\28268splashtetra.PRadio_80qntxqrmk3vj\LocalState folder
Sorry, I should correct myself: it won't start the next song if the screen is off. Turning the screen on by itself won't start playing agian, either; you either have to use the media control and hit Play, or log in and have the app at least partially in the foreground.
If you still need the log I'll post it here in a bit.
GoodDayToDie said:
Sorry, I should correct myself: it won't start the next song if the screen is off. Turning the screen on by itself won't start playing agian, either; you either have to use the media control and hit Play, or log in and have the app at least partially in the foreground.
If you still need the log I'll post it here in a bit.
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Are you using a Surface RT or an ARM based tablet? If yes, I believe it is going into connected standby. In connected standby, windows does not let the app get the next playlist. I need to use a different set of API to support this scenario. As soon as I get hold of an ARM tablet I will add support for this. If this is not an ARM based tablet then please send me the logs.
GoodDayToDie said:
Sorry, I should correct myself: it won't start the next song if the screen is off. Turning the screen on by itself won't start playing agian, either; you either have to use the media control and hit Play, or log in and have the app at least partially in the foreground.
If you still need the log I'll post it here in a bit.
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Hi GoodDayToDie or any Surface RT user,
I have created a new version 0.3.3 of the PRadio which hopefully should work in your machine. Can you give it a try? I do not own one yet so I cannot try it myself.
Instructions are given below.
Thanks
Instructions:
1. Download Pandora_0.0.3.3_AnyCPU_Test and unzip to any folder e.g. xyz.
2. Open powershell as an administrator
3. Execute the following commands in powershell
a) set-executionpolicy unrestricted
b) cd xyz\Pandora_0.0.3.3_AnyCPU_Test
c) .\Add-AppDevPackage.ps1
[Note: It might ask you to login to your Microsoft Account that is necessary to get the necessary certificates to sign the package]
Thanks! Yes, I'm using Surface RT. I'm sideloading your app now and will report later.
EDIT: Works fine! I had to uninstall the current (store) version first, but it preserved my configuration (you using the roaming AppData?) so that was no problem.
The music playback did cut out eventually, but I'm guessing that's intentional (just the "are you still there?" check, perhaps) since it was after an hour or so of inactivity, and as soon as I brought he app forward again it resumed. I'm on a free account, BTW (used to subscribe, but between them not creating a WP7 app and the advantages of Zune Pass instead, I let it lapse).
One piece of feedback: you could put a lot more info on the About page. Version would be good, for example, and I didn't actually see attribution for the CC-licensed artwork, just a mention that it was CC-BY. Other than that, love it!
Seems to be working all nice and proper for me now too, on RT.
Eats far less CPU than letting IE run in desktop mode.
Edit: Every once in a while there seems to be a delay for it loading the next song of 30-45 seconds. Not critical, just noting.
Edit2: More feedback.
1) I can't forward to the next song from the volume menu.
2) It seems to stop playing after an hour and a half or so, on a Pandora One account.
3) It'd be nice if it could remember the last station and start playing on launch
4) Related, it'd be nice if it automatically logged in on launch, not sending you to the login screen. Perhaps a settings option to clear the stored user settings, and make it log in automatically?
5) I suspect this is more of an OS issue, but outputting through a USB sound card and putting the device to sleep causes the audio to become garbled and broken.
6) The formatting seems to be a bit off in portrait mode, the 'Log Out' button on the top clips over the station name, and there's a considerable amount of deadspace at the bottom of the screen (probably a good 1/3 of the screen is wasted)
And, are the advertisements on it yours or Pandora's? If they're Pandora's, it'd be nice if you could detect if it's a Pandora One account.
does this work for cdn. IP addresses? regular pandora won't let cdn IP users
i know on android, you have to use ORBIT something app, forgot the name, and on iphone you use that hot shield free VPN
Thanks for the feedback GoodDayToDie & netham45.
The music playback did cut out eventually, but I'm guessing that's intentional (just the "are you still there?" check, perhaps) since it was after an hour or so of inactivity
>> I know why it fails to play after an hour....Connected Standby, I will fix this in the next release.
>> you could put a lot more info on the About page. Version would be good, for example, and I didn't actually see attribution for the CC-licensed artwork, just a mention that it was CC-BY
I will add version in About page. Currently if you run the app and in taskmanager search pandora.exe, right-click and go to properties you can see the version. I will add attribution too. Good catch!!
>> I can't forward to the next song from the volume menu.
Forwarding is currently disabled as Pandora does limit the number of skips after some time. If a users keeps on skipping he/she will eventually hit this limit and there is no UI to message this to the user. This also prevented my app to be certified in the store so i decided to disable it for now till i figure out a better way to deal with this.
It'd be nice if it could remember the last station and start playing on launch
Good feedback, I will add in the next release.
Related, it'd be nice if it automatically logged in on launch, not sending you to the login screen. Perhaps a settings option to clear the stored user settings, and make it log in automatically?
Currently it should automatically login based on the credentials stored on the machine. Do you want a way to clear the settings?
I suspect this is more of an OS issue, but outputting through a USB sound card and putting the device to sleep causes the audio to become garbled and broken
Interesting....Thanks for reporting it. I would need to get hold of a USB sound card to try this out. Was this on the RT device?
The formatting seems to be a bit off in portrait mode, the 'Log Out' button on the top clips over the station name, and there's a considerable amount of deadspace at the bottom of the screen (probably a good 1/3 of the screen is wasted)
Thanks Log Out button should not have appeared. Will fix it and i will try to make better use of the real estate.
And, are the advertisements on it yours or Pandora's? If they're Pandora's, it'd be nice if you could detect if it's a Pandora One account.
The advertisements are mine...Not Pandora's maybe i can reduce the number of advertisements if that is a big eye sore. Thanks again for the feedback.
cobyman7035 said:
does this work for cdn. IP addresses? regular pandora won't let cdn IP users
i know on android, you have to use ORBIT something app, forgot the name, and on iphone you use that hot shield free VPN
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If you use any VPN software to connect to US based server (I tried openvpn.net although has a data limit) you should be able to use the app to listen to pandora via the app. Give it a try and let me know how it goes.
hsalps said:
Thanks for the feedback GoodDayToDie & netham45.
Related, it'd be nice if it automatically logged in on launch, not sending you to the login screen. Perhaps a settings option to clear the stored user settings, and make it log in automatically?
Currently it should automatically login based on the credentials stored on the machine. Do you want a way to clear the settings?
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It sends me to the login screen most of the time when I launch it, or if I come back to it if it's been inactive for 5-6 hours.
hsalps said:
Thanks for the feedback GoodDayToDie & netham45.
I suspect this is more of an OS issue, but outputting through a USB sound card and putting the device to sleep causes the audio to become garbled and broken
Interesting....Thanks for reporting it. I would need to get hold of a USB sound card to try this out. Was this on the RT device?
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Yes I'm using RT, though further testing shows that I get the same result no matter what music app I use, so I blame the OS.
netham45 said:
It sends me to the login screen most of the time when I launch it, or if I come back to it if it's been inactive for 5-6 hours.
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Can you send me the PRadioInformation.log file which should be present in %appdata%\..\Local\Packages\28268splashtetra.PRadi o_80qntxqrmk3vj\LocalState folder? This should help me understand why it is not saving the password on RT.
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Yes I'm using RT, though further testing shows that I get the same result no matter what music app I use, so I blame the OS.
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Can you also give details of the USB audio device like Manufacturer, Version etc? I will report this to Microsoft.
Superb app good sir! lives on my second monitor if not just for the cool background
Thanks!
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Superb app good sir! lives on my second monitor if not just for the cool background
Thanks!
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Thanks cammykool!!
why not put it up in the windows store?
The previous version is actually already up there. We've been helping test the next release, at which point hsalps will presumably release a store update.
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Can you send me the PRadioInformation.log file which should be present in %appdata%\..\Local\Packages\28268splashtetra.PRadi o_80qntxqrmk3vj\LocalState folder? This should help me understand why it is not saving the password on RT.
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I can't seem to get it to replicate it now. =/
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Can you also give details of the USB audio device like Manufacturer, Version etc? I will report this to Microsoft.
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I've tried it with two Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 headsets and a generic unlabeled USB audio card.
so im using a test build?
cammykool said:
why not put it up in the windows store?
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The store guys are approving the latest version of the app right now (Takes 7 days ). I will update this thread when it is available on the windows store. The older release is already in the store.

Runkeeper 5.1 Update - full GPS support

FYI - Runkeeper finally went out of beta last night and posted the full 5.1 version with full support for the Sony SW3 with offline GPS support.
Personally, I think Ghostracer is better, but at least there is a major app supporting the watch.
It's not up in every country. (In Spain we still have 5.0.3 in Google Play)...
Can you please post the apk?
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FYI - Runkeeper finally went out of beta last night and posted the full 5.1 version with full support for the Sony SW3 with offline GPS support.
Personally, I think Ghostracer is better, but at least there is a major app supporting the watch.
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which country are you from? please post the APK so we can all enjoy
thanks
simika said:
which country are you from? please post the APK so we can all enjoy
thanks
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Here you go - apk download...I am in the US. Hope this works (first time extracting apk), straight from ES Explorer
gs05 said:
Here you go - apk download...I am in the US. Hope this works (first time extracting apk), straight from ES Explorer
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yes downloaded and installed correctly here is night but I hope to test it tomorrow morning thanks
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ok guys.. i tried RUNKEEPER STANDALONE uploaded in " preview" by our friend gs05
so basically it works GREAT... but with few things to set..
FIRST i had all values in MILES(so.. gs05 is from USA and probably that's why) but my mobile is set in KM so it probably had to SYNC with settings on my mobile.. anyway once i uploaded info on mobile they went back to KM.. so it was only on smartwatch 3 in miles !
SECOND i went also with my "second mobile"(not sync with smartwatch) and i had runkeeper over there too
smartwatch gave me almost 200 MT more.. and checking the track i could understand why, it started giving a wrong PATH .. that sort of " v " costed in terms on track 200mt indeed editing that track on runkeeper web i could get exactly the same distance as mobile did get !
Now is weird cause before going i started to use GPS in developers options and i had 17 satellite = i had a great gps just before starting to run..
i post here the 2 pictures so u guys can have an idea .. tomorrow i try to go jogging and use MY TRACKS on smarwatch and Runkeeper on second mobile!
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ok guys.. i tried RUNKEEPER STANDALONE uploaded in " preview" by our friend gs05
so basically it works GREAT... but with few things to set..
FIRST i had all values in MILES(so.. gs05 is from USA and probably that's why) but my mobile is set in KM so it probably had to SYNC with settings on my mobile.. anyway once i uploaded info on mobile they went back to KM.. so it was only on smartwatch 3 in miles !
SECOND i went also with my "second mobile"(not sync with smartwatch) and i had runkeeper over there too
smartwatch gave me almost 200 MT more.. and checking the track i could understand why, it started giving a wrong PATH .. that sort of " v " costed in terms on track 200mt indeed editing that track on runkeeper web i could get exactly the same distance as mobile did get !
Now is weird cause before going i started to use GPS in developers options and i had 17 satellite = i had a great gps just before starting to run..
i post here the 2 pictures so u guys can have an idea .. tomorrow i try to go jogging and use MY TRACKS on smarwatch and Runkeeper on second mobile!
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Totally agree that at the start, it acts a little funny. It is as if it is trying to use your steps to figure out what the GPS line should have been while it is fully locking into the satellites. I saw this in the beta and reported it, but they did not fix it.
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Totally agree that at the start, it acts a little funny. It is as if it is trying to use your steps to figure out what the GPS line should have been while it is fully locking into the satellites. I saw this in the beta and reported it, but they did not fix it.
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Runkeeper is a boston based firm, so they most likely did miles first and then will go to KM soon. Didn't even think of that!
Looks like there is a known issue with Runkeeper and Android Wear with respect to km/miles on the wear device:
Can't post the link since I don't normally post here, but the following article on the Runkeeper support site has the details (202830596-Wear-Doesn-t-Respect-unit-preferences).
If RunKeeper on Android Wear is showing your units in miles instead of kilometers or vice versa there is any easy fix to get things back on track! All you will need to do is go into the RunKeeper settings from your phone and toggle the units off and then back on to the desired units. This will force a re-sync with your watch!
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Looking to give Runkeeper 5.1 a try...
-Sam
I can't get it to sync afterwards. The track my watch has done doesn't show under activities when I connect to the phone.
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I can't get it to sync afterwards. The track my watch has done doesn't show under activities when I connect to the phone.
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Here is a newer version from the playstore...same 5.1, but they updated quickly twice, so perhaps it fixes the sync issues?
Updated from 5.03 to 5.1 today, new version available on the french Play Store.
Just tried this new version with the SW3 GPS
Perfectly functionnal, automatically sync to phone's app at the end.
but... :
- After some seconds, SW3 screen goes from colour to B&W but i'm not sure that the screen is in "transflective mode", ie without any backlight. (battery drain ??)
If i close the app by pushing on the SW3 power button, it didn't stay in transflective mode (time instead) and i needed to reopen the app (with wear mini launcher) to see my distance, speed and time since the start.
- The first 250 meters were lost and not counted for that Run.
It seems that the GPS is not ready when we push the Start Button on the SW3 and it needs some seconds to fix satellites.
Runkeeper should add an icon showing that the GPS Fix is ready and that we can start the run.
Sync problem this morning.
All was fine on the SW3, distance, time, calories... etc...
But when the SW3 has synchronized to the phone App, only the last 560 meters of the run were saved.
Time and calories were correctly synchronized.
All stats are false.
Bummer as the beta was better than that. If you aren't stuck to runkeeper, get ghostracer beta instead, which is strava based.
It is much much better and records perfectly.. Has GPS lock, custom fields, ambient mode, no sync issues, etc. I use it now even after runkeeper beta
See the android dev section in this forum.
:good: now registered to Ghostracer.
Will try it on my next run.
Hey guys where are you finding Ghostracer? I only found Ghost Race in the play store and didn't see anything on google.
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Hey guys where are you finding Ghostracer? I only found Ghost Race in the play store and didn't see anything on google.
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Go to this same forum, then to original android deveopment...it has a thread there
With 5.1 sync now works! Did 5k yesterday and it worked good, synced automatically when I got home. Is it possible to change activity from walking to running?
Tried it once. Coming from using Endomondo (that has no standalone watch use until now) it's a pain in the ass to use.
With Runkeeper: No GPS fix indicator at the start. Much worse to read while running. No option to configure displays. Pretty small font size. A bright coloured background make it even harder to read while running. I prefer the dark theme in Endomondo on my watch with huge bright easy to read numbers. After the run the watch showed the run properly compared to my handy tracked runs. But after sync with the phone the half track was "corrected" to a straight line so I had to repair the track in the browser later. Also the first 100m are not tracked. I guess this is then the gps fix is not ready. There's still a lot room to improve and to do before it is usable for daily training.

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